MikroTik

mip

It runs under Virtualbox. I have a backup, but a bit older and had works in last 10 days that I don't want to loose.

Thx.
Peter

mip

Hi, We have a very old instance of Dude. It runs on a virtualized Win Xp Sp3 pc and the verison is 2.2. A few days ago it crashed and till then if I try to start it, the pc start to import db, ram usage increasing and then drops (pic attached). The problem is that its from before 3.6 and its databas...

mip

Hi Normis! Any news about this? We still stucked at Dude 2.2 because of its map style. Its getting harder to maintain it nowadays. Please look after the posiibilities of adding shadows and outlines again to map style properties! Regards, Peter ok, we'll see how we can make it possible again Hi Normi...

mip

We have been using the dude for 5 years now, unfortunately, it is crashing almost daily and has become unreliable. Is there a way for us to export ONLY the monitored devices and then import them into a new dude installation? Or, is there a way for us to flush all remembered data and charts to maybe...

mip

Mikrotik is not able to do anything with dude now.

Why?

mip

Hi, Sorry to write that, but we're still waiting for outlines coming back. If you make a search for "dude outlines" you see that even if it seems to be a small problem, its a wish of many of us. We still stucked at Dude 2.2 due to this regression. We use Dude for visualisating of our netwo...

mip

ok, we'll see how we can make it possible again Hi Normis! We still wait for outlines. Actually we couldn't pass 2.2 because of the need of outlines. Since we manage more than 2 thousands of devices its very hard to keep it working with such an old stuff. I think now - as you put human resources in...

mip

You're right about taxi drivers. Nest wrote the solution: take the airport mini bus. The hotel is placed on the border of the city, so if someone was on MUM Prag 2006, this is the same situtaion. Not the best choice, but we can not do anything. Advice for forigners: 1, change money (in hotel and not...

mip

No, its not. And you found the solution for it.

mip

I won't argue. For me - as a provider - important to know whar traffic can my link handle without packet loss and lag. And this can be messured by a tpc test. Even I test my lnik with udp and find that hurrah, its 120Mbps, it probably will lag at 80mps traffic. Why? Because of the prototcol - of cou...

mip

Ok, I'll be there.

mip

....i tried it with pc's at each end using mikrotik bandwidth tester for windows but the results were lousy, would be nice to see a config that works and performs Anyway Normis, UDP test is not for messuring link capacity. Tcp test run on separated devices can be close to real traffic capacity. I s...

mip

...
Then you should be able to get good results, like the one from the other topic where user is using SXT and getting more than 100mbps full dubplex....

Please explain it, what you mean. The most interesting part is "more than 100mbps full duplex".

mip

Fortunately its not typical Hungarian. Its an americal bullshit.

Anyway, do we know the number of attendants?

mip

That isn't first design by RB and as it intended to be used outdoors then it is safe to assume as being weatherproof. If it will fail then RMA it. Yeah, but if you see MT waranty info: "MikroTikls SIA warrants all RouterBOARD series equipment for the term of one year from the shipping date to ...

mip

Yes, dish requires more money and more stable antenna holder.
Thats a fact. But it was about the link, not about the cost.
Higher quality most of cases means higher cost.

mip

r52h/r52hn is always better than r52(has very little power for such long distance throw). At all grid is not a quite good option for long distance link. But if you have no other choice, 30dbi grid should be good. I would like to know why grid is not a good option for a 7km link. Because dish has le...

mip

We'd love Rb433AHG.
Or Rb411AHG.

mip

For people who plan to come:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmz8Ni9zO4M

A short movie about Hungary.

Be prepared for:
- Girls
- Wines
- Palinkas

Hungary is waiting for you.

mip

I suggest UB5 cards, and 411aH. Rb411 is for maximum of 30Mbps. So in the future you have no options. Rb411ah is much better, and not so expensieve. Try nstreme with exact isze (4000), turbo, special freq (5740,5760,5840). At all grid is not a quite good option for long distance link. But if you hav...

mip

Is it possible to re-add "outline" checkbox in devices page? In version 2.2 it was an option, but in version 3 ( and 4) it is not. I do not really understand why, but it dissapeared. But its a very usefull trick on a white bckground. Imagine a white object ( a static for eg), but for other...

mip

I hope Mikrotik will stay as it is now.
This company proved that open source is not the only way.
I use open source stuffs now too, but thats not the only way that good.
Mikrotiks's quality is granted by they developers and their care about their property: the software.

mip

Its accepptable. Thanks for the answer and keep up the good job.
I think this product line gone be very very usefull.
Thanks again Normis!

mip

Thanks, but I prefer MT's answer.
(I think if someone thinks that thoose stuffs are not needed, that one is a newbie on this market.)

mip

Ok, my question is still the same: When will we see thoose "Not super-hiper-mega-ultra-uber-great-and-all-the-time-shining expensive devices for heavy duty usage" stuffs? If you built this device for 89 bucks, why can't you built an other one with GBE and a bit better mounting parts for eg...

mip

Yes, its true, that it is a cpe - originaly. But now the only "one-piece" device of MT. The concurent company's N****bridge device is also a cpe, but quite good for short pp links. This new routerboard can be great for short range (<4km) pp links too. For example if I have a center tower i...

mip

First:
"Dual chain 802.11n and Nv2 TDMA technology help to achieve even
200Mbit real throughput speed."
...
Question: When will it be true? Mean when can we get a GE port on such a device?

Sorry, Normis. Can I get answer for this question?
Thx, Peter

mip

First: "Dual chain 802.11n and Nv2 TDMA technology help to achieve even 200Mbit real throughput speed." And after: "One 10/100 ethernet port" Why can't you write simple: 100Mbps full duplex. But its the same marketing blabla like at ubi. 100Mbps full duplex != 200 mbps real speed...

mip

That was realy fast!
Thanks!

mip

Thanks, that was butch better. Even it does not help us, but its not on MT.

An other question:

Any MIMO compatible card support?

Eg: TL-WN910N PCI, TL-WN851N PCI, TL-WN861N MPCI

I don't know theese card, but seen it, and have some test results.
Do you have any tests in progress?

mip

RouterOS doesn't support Wimax cards

The question was not that.

Can you answer, or is it a secret?

mip

Up!

It would be a small work, but a big step.Please do that MT!

mip

try to run netinstall over it.

Normis: any sign of a stable rb 153?
Did youi find out of the reason of reezing?
It would be a good solution, but only a source of anger now.
Thanks.

mip

I think its time to call agent Murder now.

mip

about what? multi cpu systems? already working in v3

...that is still not avaliable in final, and beta not recomended for use (by MT).

2.10. "summer 2006."

3.x "autum 2007".

One year late
That was the question about

mip

it was finished 30 minutes ago, and is now on the web

Then CMIT probably saw the future.

Or someone was wrong.

mip

Again. Does anybody have a trick to do this? An other option: to monitor the best and the worse signal strength of connected clients. I'm also looking for an expert api programmer. A have some projects to code in. As beta5 has api option we can start this work from now. I would gladly pay for the co...

mip

By the way: any spec.s? photos? drafts? planned prices?

mip

Q2->Q3

Y?

mip

Do you know when?

mip

Tell me, why should I provokate you with this? Why coludn't MT simply tell what was the pr about? Now you got more info in 2 days than for two weeks before. Sad.

(weka was weak, misstype)

mip

??? Well, i was there at the presentation and i guess you were the guy sleeping in the corner because of the cheap polish wodka? 8) IF you were there, you would have heard it.... I remember the RB600 series with 3-4 times faster CPU than RB532 and daughterboard compatibility, 3 x Gig Ethernet ports...

mip

mip

Then I write down what was told on MUM: nothing importent. A few (5) weka boards. Nothing stronger or even equall than 532. some cpe: 133, 133c with 170mhz cpu. minirouter with some ethers only, and a 4ports gigabits ether card that I would never put in a pc that I watn to use any more. Eg: 4 gigab...

mip

it's a hardware fix, you can't apply it remotely

Details please! I'm a trainer also and my isps asked me about it. What is it about?

mip

Then I write down what was told on MUM: nothing importent. A few (5) weka boards. Nothing stronger or even equall than 532. some cpe: 133, 133c with 170mhz cpu. minirouter with some ethers only, and a 4ports gigabits ether card that I would never put in a pc that I watn to use any more. Eg: 4 gigabi...

mip

Yes. Please write about it! What fix will the reseller (or you) do?
Can I wait it there? Will it be changed to an other type? Or what?

mip

when using cdinstall choose 'yes' when asked "keep old configuration" And what if he forgot his pass, and thats why he need reinstall? Anywhay, who cares why he wants to do? He bought that soft, and want to use it ont that comp. Thats the point and not the reason of reinstall. I use mt fo...

mip

Same problem with rc8.

mip

create access lists with mangles that set the routes for your dude server and then create static routes using that routing mark. Then no matter what bgp, rip or ospf does to your routing tables, the route to your dude server will always follow the same path. And what if ospf take an other route bec...

mip

Same problem still in rc8. Any idea? Almost useless to monitor the trafic in this state. When ospf take an other route, all snmp info gone.
grrr.

mip

Can anybody share some oid.
I need to monitor number of connected (registered) users to an ap interface. I searched for hours, and tried to find oids, but no success.
Help, please.

mip

Finaly I could import one of the backups. But when the server restarted it starts to restart again and again. The map flashs for a second, and restart again. I went back to v0.92 and tried every version. Rc4 seems to be stable with my backup. Thats all for now. Tomorow I will make backup with rc4 an...

mip

I have a serious problem. Yes, I know everybody has one. So I exported dude database on a remote client. One day dude forgott all I typed in ( about 40 routers and links betwwen them). I was happy to have a backup. And sad when I could not import it. It accepts the file, and restarts the server, but...

mip

This is wery nice idea! But in how way i can run the hotspot which will autorize all users!? Yes i known i can find this on http://www.mikrotik.com/docs/ros/2.9/ip/hotspot but i'm wery layze, could enybody tell mi what i looking for!? Someone who teach you: if you want success you need to work for ...

mip

I did it. Seems to be good. Here it is: :global u /interface wireless monitor wlan1 once do={ :set u $registered-clients } :if ($u = "0") do={ :log message="5213 interface error, disabled" /interface wireless dis wlan1 :log message="5213 interface restart" /interface wi...

mip

counts connected users on a specified interface
What do you mean by connected users? hotspot users, tcp connections, entries in the arp table? If you can define what you want to monitor specifically I can probably help.

Sam

Sorry. Its a wireless interface (ap mode), and wireless clients.

mip

From Hungary too. And also in.
I have some tricks, but not so interesting to be a presenter.
The idea is good, keep on!

mip

I need a help. I need a script that counts connected users on a specified interface and if it is zero than do an action (disable and enable the interface). Not so difficult, but I'm close to give it up. During my fight to make it I ask you to help. If anyone have time, ability, please help. Thanks P...

mip

That's what I was wondering.... If RADIUS is working, then you should not be looking at your registration table any longer for information. This is what the front-end of the RADIUS server is for. It enables you to see logged in MAC addresses, names, IP addresses, and just about any other informatio...

mip

Maybe I'm not understanding your question, but are you asking if you can get your registration table to show the name of the user(as a comment or otherwise) along with the MAC address, so that the registration table reflects active MAC addresses and owner's names whether they were authenticated wit...

mip

Ok, I know that. The question is, that when one client is auth-ed by radius and the ap allows it to join, can I still use comments. Now, when I take a look at my reg table, I have the comments entered in access-list, so I do not have to look after mac address, just see mac and user real name. Thats ...

mip

I plan to aut. my wireless client with a radius server an ap. Now we have real long access-lists, and addig user is a bit difficult. The question is right now isa not a how..., but a what: So can I get a label each associated wireless clients as I have them now witth simple acces-list and labeling? ...

mip

MAC filtering is more than enough! G Just so you know, it takes about 3 seconds to find out the MAC address of a given wireless device, and then another 10 seconds to use that MAC address to log into an AP that only has MAC filtering enabled. IF the AP only allows one login per MAC address, then ad...

mip

well, I say you'd better turn of all thing you dont need. Com, parallel, sonud, usb, and assign irq to vga options. I have 5 wireless pci cards and one isa wired ethernet in a box. It works well, and have no problem with irqs.
Try and report.

mip

chack out al of your routing tables. You can easy find the problem, if you see what your routers think about your network topology. The try to log each ospf link, and find who does not talking to its neighb.

mip

Set data rates max of 12 or 18mbps, and leave basic rates 6mbps as tully said.

mip

try to explain your problem, cause I dont realy understand.

mip

MT said before: not on the list.

mip

Yes, you can do want you planed. Simple connext the ap to your wired routers ethernet port, and client can use your hotspot service. You can connect a switch to the MT ethernet port, and sevweral aps that receives clients. You should leave aps open, and whan clients connect to them, get the temp dhc...

mip

Why is it a problem? Does your link slowing down? Try to leave rate at 54 (or try 48,36), and ping on empty state, 5mbps btw test (tcp, one way), 10mbps, and 15mbps (or even 20mbps). If ping does not grow over 10ms, your link can stand that speed perfekt. We have some 5,3GHz link, and see what you'r...

mip

"It is not mikrotik, it is PEBKAC problem. Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair."
GigaLOL

mip

We have this problem, but not so often ( once in a month or two months). You can write a sript tat checks route table ,and if ts too short, do a reboot. Ops, we use 2.8.19, and as I see we won't upgrade till 2.9.

mip

The card we tested and had the same problem were bad. Use that gigabyte card. Cheap and good.

mip

You can not bridge wireless client. Its not on the card, its on RFC. You can read a lot of about it if you look after wds and eoip tunnels. That gigabyte card works fine for us.

mip

We had an ma311 and a dlikn dwlg520 that did the same. Bad cards.

mip

My pings fell all right after queued. I can do a perfect traffic shaping with them. So queues are your friends. Most of them.

mip

"... With Pre- N, even your existing 802.11b and 802.11g devices will get a boost in range of up to 20%..."

+20% ? Nothing. Wimax will change our networks, but this marketing scene not.

mip

We had this problem in next cases: - ospf config under 2.7.x - wireless mode (2.4-5G) change "on the fly" , when int is enebled (2.8.x) - bad pci card (that causes hw resource conflict, but resumed at boot) (2.8.x) So thats all I can help. edit: - And one more time: 2.5.x did it once or tw...

mip

We use many 5211 cards (dlink ab520), butthey does not support 802.11g. I see the list at mode, but if I select 802.11g, the answer is that not supported.

mip

Search. Is I read its enough, but yo sould search for long dist link info somewhere here.

mip

You can set the firewall chain for in and out traf. at ppp profil page. Then you just creat a new chain at ip firewall and add a rule that blocks traf you vant to stop. Its just a first idea as i read your post, but I think it works. Try, and report.

mip

Did you have 2 providers and IPs from both (multihomed)? How did they configure on their end. The documentation makes us put only 1 bgp peer how do you define multiple (because i am assuming each provider will be a peer) Ok, this "It served only on e prived" was realy hard to read. So the...

mip

I used routeros as a bgp border router 2 years ago. It served only on e prived, but serverd good. The config was as simple as its shown in the docs. It was 2.6.x, P3 1GHz, and 256MB ram.
Never dropped, it worked for 1 year, than I left that company, but as I know its still working with no errors.

mip

We used yoda vt100 boxes and they worked perfect with private ip and masq/dst-nat. In the local area they could use their private number, and outside call they could use forwarded public number.

mip

We have some aps on 2,4. we have -50 - -88 ss, and have many problems with clients frequently disc/reconnect ot the ap. Strange, but its not connection with signal strenght. we have -85 ss client up for hundreds of hours, and have a -64 client disconnects every 30 minutes. Yes, its about noise maybe...

mip

We did it several times, and it works.

mip

We have two long-range links:

- one for about 30km, 12mbps tested, two dlink ab520 (511) and 90cm dish
- other for about 37km, 15mbps tested, two mt card (5212 I think) and 80 cm dish.

Both stable, we use 2 and 5 mpps full d. on them.

But fog is not our fiend...

mip

Is that 384kbps dsl lien simmetric? 'cause here all dsl lines are assimetric. So if you have a 384kbps dsl, the upload will be only 64kbps, os anout 8kbyte/s.
Same about tunnels: we use eoip and no speed limit, just fine transmission.

mip

buy 2x solid parabolic dish 180cm diameter I Could not find one selling this size of antenna. don't use AMP Is it a technical or regulatory reason ? Sincerely -bino- I think its technical. If you have poor signal and high noise and you power up it, your noise will also higher. Better yuse higher an...

mip

we had this problem when we used a dsl line to behind the proxy. A bad choosen tcp mss could cause this problem to us. Now we have an other line, and no problem.

mip

I do not recommend differebt polarisation, 'cause You will have to routet your clients' antas any time you want to change ap.

mip

already there in 2.9

That we have not yet.

mip

You can not do that yet, as I know.

mip

I think interfaces are identified by mac, so if you will use same cards, no problem. Otherwise you will have to set up ne interfaces just like the old ones were. You will not see removed cards, and their settings. At queues and firewall rules most of the rule will contain "unknown" interfa...

mip

Post it only one place.

http://www.mikrotik.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1337

Yo have alreadyposted it there.

mip

I have a dlink dwl g520 card. My 2.8.10 MT shows that its a 5212 atheros card. Dlink writes that this card supports 108mbps. Do I have to upgrade to recognize this card as 5213, or this card is really a 5212?
Anyway dous anybody use this card?

Sorry to be a bit offtopic, but its als about 2,4 turbo

mip

I couldn't find better place. A bit offtopic, but can say it's general networking.
Or simple it's funny.

http://www.downseek.com/download/20742.asp

mip

I got an omni ant right next to a GSM short back fire and a sectorized ant. some clients can connect easy and has a stable connect, some of them get the message: not a secure network ,do you still want to connect? Even they say yes , can not connect. Any idea? Does anybody have antennas near to a GS...

mip

If you are serious about you wrote, some pictures from inside would be very helpfull. Thanks for your help!

mip

the task is that if an ospf distributed def gw is unreacable, a static def route should be enabled. So in normal I have a route for 0.0.0.0 from ospf, and a disable static. If a spec ip has no answer from netwach, the static route should be enebled, if has answer, disabled.

mip

I try to enable/disable route list item 0 from a script.
I wrote this:
/ip route pr
/ip route en 0

No effect

I wrote it into winbox's script editor, and tried { } version too. No effect. Whats wrong?

mip

wireless client can not be bridged. A hundred times told thing.

mip

bad news: no. Don't know if the 2.9 vill able you to do that, but 2.7&2.8 does not. Maybe an e-mail to your customer will help, than you write down, what should the do. After that you use rthe old ap just as ap and connect ot a wired interface of each new mt obx and bridge them to new wireless a...

mip

make the wireless client and dsl-router device 2 in 1 for the customer. And if they need you can forward port to an internet ip. We use mt clients this way.Customers are pleased.

mip

thans for prompt reply

it seems it is connectecing only for less than a second and its keep going like that

ap side mac filter usuali does the same

mip

Is it so heavy, or is it not clear what a question realy is? Can anybody help me?

mip

Is there aní way to download the writen materials of the seminar? My problem is that Riga is far away. I nedd some knowledge of routing, routing with mikrotik, but can not go there. So any hope to get that docs?

mip

I have a wan that has about 20 routers that have ospf on them. It works fine. We have a /24 public ip range. Use private ip for pp links on routers, and /26 networks for endusers. All enduser ip are public, so no nat used. My problem is that now we have an other connect to the internet, and an other...

mip

shaspe traffic originsted from your router lan ip and destination is clients ip. One of my clients proxy account rule: name="66p" target-address=xx.yy.zz.66/32 dst-address=xx.yy.zz.65/32 interface=all queue=default priority=8 limit-at=0/0 max-limit=50000/400000 Where 65 (/26) is gw and has...

mip

for 2.7 i can't tell you if there were any issues, i don't remember anything like it. maybe unstabile hardware? did you try power cycle (power off, power on)? remove any unused packages from it, then reboot normally (sys reboot). I will try remove unneeded packages, and do the reboot. I can do it o...

mip

reboot + upgrade. problem gone

not upgradable, moe than a year old, and its a wired router, so not for why to upgrade. Reboot did not help. I can use it as a router, but still it would be better to log on localy too in any case.

mip

it's back online

What was the problem?

'Cause I have a 2.7.20 system with the same problem: no telnet, no console, just winbox. And no log

mip

U have to use source nat and masq. to hide your lan from internet and to translate all the requests from your la to internet. Read that part "Source nating" from manual. -all desribed there.

mip

Yes. But if you have any better ide for count a traffic for a certain ip or subnet, is ok for me. Not for billing, just for info for me to handle the network.

mip

Ip firewall source nat and then masqurade. read theat damned manual. I1m a newbie too, but I read the papers and ask after it. More usefull that ask the same question that is writen down.
not for bad, just for learn.

mip

Does anyone have any idea for the job described?

mip

Yes it was a try by goverment and local telco (owned by DT) to reduce the outdoor power to use that freq only for door openner and things like that. Wlan is a very fast growning part of the Hungarian isp system, and many big company try to destruct ourr bussiness. "Sad but ttrue" Now we ca...

mip

Sorry for bad port no.

mip

U have to enable the protcol 47 and udp 1720 I think.

mip

This week we made a 35km long p2p link. dlink ab520 cars, 90cm primfocus plates, and 3m belden h1000 cables. We tested up to 12Mbps effective speed (24mbps mode). Works fine, ack auto, stays at 238-239.

mip

What is the maximal output of that netgear ma311?
And how?

mip

And Realtek RTL8100C 10/100 Mbps LAN PCI controller ?

mip

Gona buy some new mainboard with this controller integrated. Will it work with mt?

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