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vladimirslk

best surge protector sofar = 2x 1gbps media converters connected with 1 meter of single mode fiber :D

vladimirslk

R will come once someone is connected...

vladimirslk

bonding is done for bridge. income from taking from same device 2 routes=0.
in your language/drawing - 2x AP 2x CPE and then wiki ..

vladimirslk

i was recently playing with bonding for fiber backup with wireless. later went to backuping 5ghz link with another one :) after some test will bond them to get double rate... but what i found: easiest -> hex S boxes each - 3 cables = 1uplink, 1 linkA(tagged), 1linkB(tagged) with bonding config in it...

vladimirslk

autonegotiation=off :) try like that

vladimirslk

Remove all ips from bridged tiks. Then ip firewall connection tracking set enabled no.
In bridge add only ports wlan0; eth0; rtsp set to off

vladimirslk

hehe, i was intentionally waiting for product 60+5 to buy and install on 900m. I dont care about how works by others i need availability all the time all the weather long, building an space station with several antennas via poe switch is utopia, maybe the price will be the same, but what for so many...

vladimirslk

b48 easier to license in eu countries..
what is the performance of that lte ""wimax"" product?

no info regarding speeds

vladimirslk

For all those who struggle these days with devices being snowed up - available solution of radome covering for harsh meteo conditions: https://www.wifihw.cz/default.asp?cls=stoitem&stiid=4376&action=setlng&lngid=1 https://www.wifihw.cz/webnews/103.jpg thats veeery good. seems that now s...

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I have 5 different PtP links that I would like to upgrade to 60GHz. The distances are: 40m 160m 185m 460m 1280m There is never any snow and heavy rains are rear. I was planning to use LHG60 wireless wire dish for all of them but somebody suggested that the dish would not be good for the 40m link an...

vladimirslk

what do you expect more if you bond 5ghz+60ghz? anyway there is 1gbps ethernet port, i dont get your idea (:
my point, just to get ANY connection during bad weather, okay let it be at least 100mbps for snow fall or heavy rain, so the customers would not fuck up to red our phones

vladimirslk

R2 i would buy, building 2 antennas, 2 boards, redundancy + poe switch on tower= no wish at all

anyway combined should be cheaper than that..

vladimirslk

i am still waiting from MT LHG60+5ghz in one unit, 5ghz for backup, price per unit should not go a lot even if add price of sxt lite into it.
setting kit with additional sxt unit, poe switch is kind of crazy..

vladimirslk

it will drop interfaces 99.9%

i mean after upgrade you will need to set them accordingly, vlans to ether x etc. this will happend, i dont recognize exactly after 5.26 i think to 6.x

vladimirslk

that feeder is a bullshit. two connectors parallel to each other, no phase difference as i understand

vladimirslk

indoor router on 60ghz? trollolol... i suggest to go to technical unviersity and get a basic physics. 2nd, attenuation of 60gsmthz - 3ch more than enought 3rd, for such freq, LOS and high directional accuracy is one of the requirements... (ptp <500m) 4rd, mostly ppl uses it instead of building fiber...

vladimirslk

1km on ac 5ghz 150 will not be an issue..

vladimirslk

sofar I am happy with 60ghz dishes, hopefully there would not be any bugs with them to run on production : )
still under big question, will they beat 2.7-3km range or not, so far as I calculated should be on the limits, with fail-over to existing 5ghz could be a good improvement.

vladimirslk

distribute users to ch1 and ch2. if you think to multiply total speed, impossible, redundancy 1 packet there 1 here will be outcome like banks will not let users to login (ip addresses swap all the time) as well as many other https services simply dhcp server 1 192.168.2.1/24 and nat to ch1 and 2 19...

vladimirslk

))) lets wait for kind of superchannel in order to use it within private hangar with higher levels due to noise from 60ghz microwaves on the route xDDD

vladimirslk

if it will drive w/o issues 1.5km it is fine

i wonder if it will get through 3km distance

vladimirslk

very interested, lets wait for price

at least one link i would gather, IF price will be not overboosted
1500m+ means hopefully up to 3km, but i doubt it will be possible

vladimirslk

Over fiber u have no limits in bandwidth, no statics, no power required, no possibility of part has been stolen. Up to 150m in most cases air bridge with fibre i see more prone. If mk will reach at least 800m that would be already interesting, concerning small scenaries... Well ok (: I am staying wi...

vladimirslk

Under NO load its ok

vladimirslk

if they will not screw the price, then they will get market of 60ghz for 1km ptp links and may start to product in huuuge amount gaining huuuge amount of money xD

vladimirslk

I was expecting 60ghz for 1km
it should not be a deal to make it with parabola, cut feeder on jirious 24, direct WAP to hole of feeder, profit. dont want to recall 2005 when we made wireless out of cans and other stuff, cause inventors were too lazy to make ready product

vladimirslk

inform us about performance plz

at what distance do you use them?
i currently run atom boards, but comparing to IPQ CPU seems it should be better

vladimirslk

who told you to buy, i think it is very simple to make it by your own, dimensions are available, construction is very simple... placing the tx-rx unit in the center and using "rouper" should give an directional improvement... i did not checked my thoughts, but it might work :) who wanna tr...

vladimirslk

one of the options, by the way the dimensions are in pdf as well available..

https://www.pasternack.com/images/Produ ... 881-24.pdf

vladimirslk

fire with 24v 0.5a

PSU... only if you will apply some aviation fuel on it

vladimirslk

i will also follow, low distance devices is one of the options to exclude fiber optics between building, at the moment a bit too late

but for up to 1km could be interesting... thumb up.

vladimirslk

there might be interference from airport. There are some radars operating near 5ghz band we are experiencing same problems sometimes =) but link does not goes direct over airfield, lets say its 3km aside and parrallel to the airport, but during night we have 650mbps both, day time-operational drops ...

vladimirslk

Hi all,

simple question, if ptp, bridge. What about straight connection performance vs trunk with lets say 10 vlans?
Who has tested on todays software releases?

BR

vladimirslk

board rb922uag
i missed to order gbpoe, and have only poe in stock
will it work or not with simple poe ?

vladimirslk

swapped to 922uag all fine... seems that r11e ac card has some trick and does not work on stock minipcie :/ need to migrate to compex solutions, waste of money and time with no info from mikrotik about it

vladimirslk

yep settings are the same, fun is that rb433ah+52hn perform way better that newer solution j1900 atom +r11e cards in minipcie slots.. thinking if its the power issue? or not
i have also rb14e in stock, but to waste or no the time it is the question

vladimirslk

Swaped from rb433ah+r52hn to x86+r11e-5hnd and signal got twice worser or aprox.

is there any difference if the wireless card will be used via RB14e or directly via minipcie on mainboard?

vladimirslk

seems that Normis is drinking from february )) no news letter no devices no nothing xD

vladimirslk

downgrade 6.29.1

did not noticed any issues.
uptime 200d

vladimirslk

remove hide-ssid. i have no idea why, but tried some time ago and with hide-ssid - enabled there was problems to get connection, but worked well on 802.11 plain as i remember with it

vladimirslk

AF24 ->

mikrotik does not work on 802.11ac, and seems any ideas to improve rate or modulation they also do not have.

plain 802.11 protocol, like on every cheap access point.

vladimirslk

go to 5.26.

i have one x86 where intel dual pci network adapter, and seems to be the same like yours. issue was loss and low BW after upgrade to ros 6.x. downgraded and everything runs like it should....

vladimirslk

SET 802.11ac (plain protocol)

nor NV2 nor nstreme works with 802.11ac

vladimirslk

i have only one external IP :)) so vlan3 shall be.. Thank You for hints I will try them soon on the table i am still having idea to translate all traffic from pppoe customers to IP address that will be in vlan3 like 1.100. it will be double routing, BUT - it's same - or double mangle rules or double...

vladimirslk

actually i am playing right now on the table... so yes, idea to pack 1gbps adapter with all stuff and combine two x86 machines into it. right now: ethernet fiber-ether1: vlan2 -> to ISP vlan3 -> LAN(server area) vlan5 -> pppoe_gateway in nat i have rule for both masquarade 192.168.1.0/24(serv) and 1...

vladimirslk

192.168.1.0/24 is zone for local servers, just for information. vlan5 gets internet connection.

vladimirslk

VLAN1 pppoe server, so only via VLAN2 shall be possible to get internet

vlan2 192.168.1.1/24
vlan1 pppoe 192.168.88.0/24

cannot get the principle in tik, i need to set default route of 192.168.88.0/24 to 1.1

if I simply set untagged port to 1.1 i get connection without any problems...

vladimirslk

you wanna mimo or single chain?

i have single chain svenska antenni spetsialisten SP60/54 and around 8 pcs. If you need let me know, i can ship them over EU (located Estonia)

vladimirslk

kind strange a bit.. or there is or there are none, because gps module at least i saw in older packages..
if it will improve the stability/throughput - why not to implement it

vladimirslk

Question is next, is there any gain with GPS synchronisation in MT on PtP or not?

Is it working at least or not?

vladimirslk

usually very hard to catch the problem, if there are also devices on 5ghz try to separate their frequencies as much as possible

vladimirslk

better microwave analogue to airfiber

24ghz

vladimirslk

drinking some hard alchocol and thinking, what is the best choice to achieve best result with same dual chain antenna! MIMO 2x2 with 1 card in n or ac or MIMO 1x1 with 2 separated cards in different frequencies? last one shall give better throughput.. Is there someone using this setup? please share ...

vladimirslk

RB133+nv2=deeeeep hang

only 802.11 or nstreme works more or less

vladimirslk

if you would study in engineering university, you would have an electrical engineering subject

even the aerospace engineers, who are studying for pilots like I do have that subject. So, google please for ohm's law

vladimirslk

recommended price for R11e-ac? is it 2x2 or 3x3?

vladimirslk

how much does it cost and where are the spec?

vladimirslk

there is available by trendnet 48v-> 12v converter up to 15W.
works, but if you overload - heats and after one month died

vladimirslk

on nv2 speedresult is very low. if it is P2P use nstreme.
3x3 we did not get, performance was same as 2x2. distance 1km
throughput in nstreme ca 137mbps/100mbps of real traffic.

vladimirslk

on x86 i suggest to use 5.26 -> we had lan gigabit port flapping and freezing with newer firmware
for 912hpnd optimal is 6.13 latest ros, max throughput

vladimirslk

ubiquiti have AC devices since september I suppose, check their site.
for AP price is ca 250$

vladimirslk

how to we make - take extra rubber from ftp cable, co after crimping you'll have 1cm of open wires without rubber.. plug into rb - and all closes good. It's not the best way, but a workout.. better if hole will be directly under poe/ethernet plug

vladimirslk

just checking configuration logic :) Sorry but previous post means that the logic is not understood (and I agree with it). Could you describe your design task? we receive external IP from ISP. We need to make 1:1 translation over 2 routeros gateways(first one with dhcp-server) second one with pppoe...

vladimirslk

works, but it's realy shitty, couse with nstream CPU load ~50% @idle... customer are crying

vladimirslk

I have next conf
rb433ah
1xR52hN -> 5ghz-n
1xR52hN -> 5ghz-n
1xR52h ->2.4

all works perfectly

vladimirslk

we could speak about it

depends on salary and other conditions etc.
could help with IPTV service(linux servers) for customers, as wireless installations and fiber optic lines

write me on info@moonnet.ee

vladimirslk

use r52hN instead, if you are trying 802.11a-turbo in dual

just experience

vladimirslk

I think you are going to have interference problems. It is not a good idea to run multiple cards on the same band on the same board. Im not sure what the power consumption is on the XR5, but you also might not have enough power. dont know about XR5, but with other 400mW+ cards all is in order and n...

vladimirslk

just checking configuration logic

vladimirslk

Hi there, need to forward IP with all ports to the customer. I have next scenario: From provider IP stack is pointed(routed) to external IP internet->eth0(inet)-main-eth1(lan)->switch->eth0-pppoe(gateway)eth1->customer(pppoe)-static.1.1.1.1 How do I see it main: add ip address 10.10.10.10(that will ...

vladimirslk

so how is it using both omnis? :) i suppose putting them in L shape will not make difference to interference? okay =) i.ll play a bit :lol: @moment do not have enough money to spend on that base, to buy omni mimo antenna, so i have bought used ones 12dbi, if there will be need to improove, i'll exc...

vladimirslk

so how is it using both omnis?

i suppose putting them in L shape will not make difference to interference?

vladimirslk

dead radio card.

vladimirslk

I believe I would go with an 802.11n card. The dish is dual polarity. This should help a lot on this link.

dishesh would be 2x RX and TX (chain0+chain1) at my opionin better...

vladimirslk

i had the same trouble some days ago.. but i have x86 router based. first and last thing I thought was LAN adapter.
changed LAN adapter from full duplex to half duplex done it's work. but should exchange that faulty one

vladimirslk

i gave up with it

just installing fiber in mart/aprill
reducing power will give something like 160/120mbps in link connection, stability @same level..

mpls is a way to try, but i think on that link is not possible, it's backbone to ISP...

vladimirslk

exist. i seen some on ebay in minipci with 3 chains, but what for use them, if RB without mini pci-e anyway just 100mbps

vladimirslk

2x 433AH both sides 52hN MIMO 2x2 + 2xdishes 28dbi v+h both sides 1km~ config the same both sides mode=station-wds country=no_country_set antenna-gain=0 frequency=5200 band=5ghz-onlyn channel-width=20/40mhz-ht-above scan-list=default wireless-protocol=nv2-nstreme rate-set=default supported-rates-b=1...

vladimirslk

I havenot understand, 150/30 is real transfer on 3x3? not too good..
running at the moment 433ah+r52hn 270/270, 28dbi dishes 2x2mimo@5.8ghz~ 10,5mb/s comes on(100mbps ethernet ports)
Thinking to upgrade that link.. to 3x3 using 3x23dbi panel antennas both sides

vladimirslk

addiditional question

Is it possible to use 2x R5hN on each side with RB433ah, 4 chains, or 4x4
Using dual polarity-dishes both sides?

How it's beeing configured like bonding?

vladimirslk

Hello, I have next installation -> ip adres external xxx.xx.xx.xx A (eth0) routerOS -> (eth1)192.168.1.1/32 -> switch -> hosting server 192.168.1.5 -> local ftp 192.168.1.3 etc I have 6 extra ips with static route from provider, so i made dst/src nat all ports to hosting server 192.168.1.5 and givve...

vladimirslk

What could it be? Before was old version 3.x and x86 router, after changing to rb750 have next problem. customer is connected with wire, 100mbps through switch. On interface table no drops etc. connection is something like that: customer1---...................-RB750g-.................-customer3 cust...

vladimirslk

it's your choice, BUT, we have made 270mbps or real 100mbps with 802.11n CHO+CH1 (2x2)
I would take a try with 802.11n+nv2;
pings 5-20ms under load 50-60mbps

vladimirslk

+1 try dbii really brilliant wireless cards they make ! as 802.11a as 802.11n both are triend on curious link, that should be available all the time - no problems at all, at the same, summer storms are also not a problem to them, we are going to exchange existing ones to 802.11n dbii ones

vladimirslk

ROS5.4 made my life easier :) totally ~270mbps chain0+chain1; fully loads 100mbps with tcp traffic rb i suppose sometime later i should try with atom minipc and gigabit lan try what could 802.11n drift out :D ping is good.. if downloading 7mb/s ~5ms, no losses. Protocol used nv2 nstreme ; 20/40mhz a...

vladimirslk

distance between point a and point b 1km, LOS; antennas svenska antennispetsialisten 28dbi dishes; (1xV and 1xH on each side); 28 dbi antennas for 1km is overkill beyond words. That matched with dbii 28 db N cards and theres just to much power. as a comparison, I use 28 dbi antennas for 20km links ...

vladimirslk

It appears I misunderstood the question. Its possible that nstreme-dual doesnt support N links, as N is supposed to be its replacement. Have you tried to bond the 2 links ? http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Interface/Bonding eee, point is not in that. I am trying to set up existing Dual nstreme ...

vladimirslk

Without actually viewing the link itself a few things come to mind in order of likelyhood. 1. Antenna alignment 2. Freznel zone obstruction. 3. Noise in channel selected 4. Spacing between antennas. 5. Distance of link and antennas used. Perhaps separate the links, and measure performance of each t...

vladimirslk

Hello, Have at the moment next problem: Link operates at dual nstream, ~54/54 x2 @5ghz-a turbo Signal strength ~ -55dbm signal to noice ~ 40 db lowering db (manual to 10,13,5 does nothing) real traffic push ~ 4,6-6,1MB/s both sides 2xR5h +F50 pro(dbii) similar card ========================== If card...

vladimirslk

Distance about 2km 1.Dual Nstreme 11a turbo = 60Mbs/60mbs (if traffic reach it maximum ping is going to triple cypher - 100-150ms). 2.1x R5h with two antennas with NV2 and wds = 75/75 (if traffic reach it maximum ping max is 15ms). 1 and 2 are this same link, nstreme was "upgraded" to N+N...

vladimirslk

if we are talking about 4x minipci 802.11n cards on X86 based PC, then could be :lol: 300mbit in one way ->150mbps full duplex. as i was writing i suppose 2x2 MIMO could press out 120~mbps FULL duplex mode (~240mbps in half duplex). Are we talking about REAL traffic, not what is written in routerOS ...

vladimirslk

Hello, i need to know which is the better solution if we are comparing real tcp throughput on 802.11n We are using at this time UBNT Rocket but there is possible maximum 55 Mbps TCP half duplex with enabled Airmax. Is MK better? Which wh equipments are better. Use 40 or 20 MHz range ? Does support ...

vladimirslk

I`v got something about 60 mbps with RB333 configured as wds bridge

the same at the moment, i believe it's max of RB333 - have 30/30mbps real traffic
I will post some results with 433ah+433ah in dual stream 5ghz-turbo

I plan also as WDS to setup

what processor load is on RB333 at full speed?

vladimirslk

Hello community, As I have much read about 802.11n competion, seems it doesnt provide stability with jitter/ping and speed. At the moment I have one link running 30/30mbps, wds bridge: RB333-R5H-----------R5H-R433AH I believe 30mbps becouse of RB333 processor, should be somewhere around 60mbps. Dist...

vladimirslk

At the moment i have next installation RB433AH one side 3x minipci cards inside (2x r5h +1xr52) 1xR5h -> link 4.5km long 5ghzturbo -> antenna svenska 60cm 28dbi dish (distance 3km) 1xr52 -> omni 2.4ghz - antenna omni 14dbi 1xr5h -> PtP to provider... 50mbps/50mbps shows up at the moment -> antenna s...

vladimirslk

it'll be real to build from Anamur.... oorrrr if' it's possible to use 3+m antennas @ height ~50-75m...

vladimirslk

I have at the moment two ideas: 1) Just make unlimited speed for all accounts, not the best, couse @night all speed will be down, so pings are big etc, but on other side, from 01:00-06:00 there'll be just downloaders, i think 2) As i use PPPoE with dynamic IP, so when user logins, he becomes ip from...

vladimirslk

Wireless link on 5GHz without LOS it's wasted time and nerve. Check this link when trees goes green :)) I do not mean that trees :))) they are all the time GREEN. antenn is suited @ ~23m from ground :P sorry for my english :P) http://lib.rus.ec/i/62/152662/i009-001-225020404.jpg For these link used...

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just have done link @8.6km whitout LOS ( there are in the way some trees, then should be clear,but i dont see another point). Link is up with R5H cards @24/12mbps 5ghz-turbo*nstream. Real test ~3.2mb/s one way. !!! Signal to noise -2 - 2db !!! and -78/-80dbm wonderfull, i think we'll make some allig...

vladimirslk

Have that option at link. Link set as WDS bridge between two points.
What would it give if it'll be disabled?

I am sorry, havent found clear answer about that option

vladimirslk

same question here, does anyone tested R52Hn + R5H as PtP? orrr R52Hn @2.4ghz @AP-bridge mode? (PtMP) and the last one: From what RouterOS does it works? 3.30 i think isn't suitable or? have some rb333@work and do not want to upgrade them, becouse have no ones to replace @ exprement )) I tested R52...

vladimirslk

same question here,

does anyone tested R52Hn + R5H as PtP?

orrr R52Hn @2.4ghz @AP-bridge mode? (PtMP)

and the last one: From what RouterOS does it works? 3.30 i think isn't suitable or? have some rb333@work and do not want to upgrade them, becouse have no ones to replace @ exprement ))

vladimirslk

My task at the moment: Mikrotik AP with omni @2.4ghz. set as AP bridge. AP is to linux server with pppoe gateway. I have setup upped WAP54g with DD-WRT, have connection with WPA, as Client bridge. PC that connected behind AP receives ip adresses, BUT i cannot run PPPoE, I can ping it but cant logon....

vladimirslk

use intel or 3com cards. i prefer intel ones. Couse, for example they have 64/32bit cards with double Gbit lan ports; OR buy a server board with 2xLAN onboard.. it'll be cheaper in future usage(running costs), becouse it is realy troubly to change working gateway or upgrade or in day or in night :lol:

vladimirslk

Practics do not know how, but it works. Theoretics know how, but it doest work

)))

So, just make it try, then Youll know @100%

vladimirslk

Hellou

What point of tunneling and givving PPTP to users?
they will have the same speed @their fixed connection, not more not less. For example - users becomes 2mbps/1mbps for internet, so speed will be not more than these numbers, even if somewhere is 1gbps link available

vladimirslk

i think it's not possible... first of all use motorolla PTP linkplanner, there you could test it and see all the way in google earth... ptp linkplanner is free download second good linkplanner: http://www.ligowave.com/linkcalc/ need to register, found here, is better than linkplanner at my point of ...

vladimirslk

jep, You'll have water inside, if you do not use silicon at the connector-cable connection.
@test they were @my home 1 week, so i do not think that couse problem, another R5H work's without problems with same antennas, i mean @test.

vladimirslk

What antennas you use? Write to rma@mikrotik.com ask way to replace it. dish antennas 32dbi from direct.lv There's written, that direct to RMA I should write, if I was bought direct from them? i have bought from dealer in latvia SPX... Do not know yet, what they will say about it (just in monday). ...

vladimirslk

i have today problem with R5h also :) config: Rb433ah 1xR52 2xR5h configuration at home, with connected antennas to all pigtails... 2 cards for 10 min of configuring were good, but R5H had very big temperature, so hot, so i cannot even hold it in my hands (it can be definated when you place your hea...

vladimirslk

if you trying to say word: TRUNK, than i think it'snot possible in these case. 1xminipci wireless on OWN ghz, another on other ghz etc.. they cannot work all in one Ghz, should not, exeption, when 1 card RX, another TX -> nstream2.. but not with laptop as client side

vladimirslk

thanks for replies !
for links planned R5H and R52h@2.4ghz ~7-10users on it.

I just have saw a post with interference... do not want to mount more boxes with 1xminipci slots to make givven task

vladimirslk

no all antennas are givving specificated db ... all time when You choose antenna make +10db, price between them 10-15$, but guarantee that i'll work more than whith cheaper ones. for example: someone will use 28dbi antennas, and your link will be down due interference (and 6.5km long) @8km I had 27d...

vladimirslk

I have next task to make: 1x 3km link @5ghz-turbo (PtP) ~15-25mbps 5760mhz 1x 6km link @5ghz-turbo (PtP) ~15 mbps 5210mhz 1x omni @2.4ghz - Point-to-multipoint.. 2420mhz~ Have someone used in this configuration? 2.4ghz card will place between 5ghz-turbo links. so like this: 1 slot - R5h 2 slot - com...

vladimirslk

DO not cross Pigtails on outdoor boxes, put them on left and right, so they could not be connected. I have a link on 433ah 2x5ghz-turbo link, all work fine. I think, this could make good interference (pigtails together)

vladimirslk

Hello to all! At the moment we are using 5ghz-turbo, and getting ca 55-60mbps speed on 433ah.. I have read about support of 802.11n, and could not get, is it ready to USE or not. Really freaky shots with pings.. abnormal for ISP =) but we soon need a real PTP link with 100mbps or better more, planni...

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