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atakacs

Hello I have recently added a new RBMAPL-2ND device into my CAPSMAN setup and for some reason it is recognized but shows up with it's MAC address, not IP. It did get a DHCP IP on the ETH port, I can ping it but can not connect to it using Winbox (or SSH but did not turn it on anyway). What might I h...

atakacs

Not sure this is the right place to ask...

Appartently the container 7.x feature is also supported on SMIPS hardware. Assuming I want to build one what processor architecture should I use ? My goal is to try this https://github.com/Fluent-networks/tailscale-mikrotik.

Any feedback most welcome

atakacs

I am having a weird (at least to me) issue with a site to site setup using OVPN (Mikrotik to Mikrotik). The tunnel is up and from Site A I can reach the subnet on Site B. However from site B I can not reach the site A subnet. Yet from router B I can reach subnet A, but not from the devices "beh...

atakacs

Thanks - most instructive for the newbee that I am

atakacs

Oh ok did not realise that backup went up to MAC assignments - it would indeed be problematic.

But if I am going to swap two routers with exact same model I can do a backup -> restore ?

atakacs

Also, it is not a good practice to return a .backup from one router to another.

Even to same hardware that is mean to replace the original ?

atakacs

The second scenario

atakacs

I have two ISP delivering internet to my site and and have their respective links connected to ETH1 and ETH2 of my router.

What is the "best" way to have automatic switchover between the two WAN (say based on a ping of a "known good host") ?

atakacs

Probably a dumb question but are user/pass preserved in backups ? I have a brand new CCR1009-7G on which i have restored a (password protected) backup from another CCR and although it seems to have the config loaded I can't connect to is with the same credentials that are working on the original rou...

atakacs

Was there any resolution to that ? Still pretty much seeing the same problem :/

atakacs

ok - sorry for the "noise"

atakacs

I'm pretty sure I have seen a 7.2rc2 yesterday in the testing "train" and was about to install in on our lab setup... but no seeing it anymore !? Was it pulled ?

atakacs

Any update / input / remark / comment on the IPSec issues lots of people are having ?

atakacs

Some "official" response would indeed be appreciated...

atakacs

Thanks for the pointer - my issue is a bit different insofar as the tunnel is actually working for a while but eventually stops. I even have witnessed article failure, ie. some subnets continue to work when others stop. Not good :/

atakacs

I am having a worsening issue by which an IPsec tunnel I have between our local CCR-1009-8G and an Ubiquiti USG Pro is randomly - but regularly - silently failing. By silently failing I mean that the traffic simply stops flowing - the peer seems still up, there is nothing apparent (maybe I need more...

atakacs

I dont think its possible or wise to attach your VPN connections to bridges. Simply make the firewall rules you need to allow connectivity from VPN access to LAN subnets and vice versa etc...... (...) Seems like you have many tunnels. So use firewall rules for VPN tunnel to LAN connectivity So use ...

atakacs

Very feasible, the only question I have is why are the two VLANS 'open' to each other.

Ok... what woud be your approach to this ?

Why not just have one LAN then?

Fair question question - we want to be able to filter between the two or even to split (obviously loosing the redudency)

atakacs

Hello I have a CCR 1009-8G on which I want to achieve the following config. 2 WAN connections - WAN1 to ETH1, WAN2 to ETH8 2 LAN connections - say LAN1 to ETH2 and LAN2 to ETH7 Each LAN independent (with NAT and unroutable address space - say 192.168.100.0/24 and 192.168.200.0/24) - LAN1 access inte...

atakacs

Hello Many thanks for taking the time to review my config ! I am still obviously learning Mikrotik and any and all input is much appreciated ! (1) Your are missing one thing....... Maybe? /interface list member add interface=ether1 list=WAN add interface=bridgeNet1 list=LAN add interface=bridgeNet2 ...

atakacs

VLANs would be another option, with everything on the same bridge but VLAN'ed off from each other.

Yep - good idea.

Still not completely sure this isn't some bug (or at minimum an "edge case")

atakacs

Found my issue

add name=dhcp-Net2 ranges=192.168.0.101-192.198.0.199

Typo here

(

That being said not sure the DHCP server should serve from another unrelated pool ...

atakacs

Here we go - pretty basic IMHO # nov/30/2021 09:21:18 by RouterOS 7.1rc7 # software id = 018C-7TFP # # model = CCR1009-8G-1S-1S+ # serial number = **** /interface bridge add name=bridgeNet2 add name=bridgeNet1 /interface ethernet set [ find default-name=ether1 ] comment=WAN1 set [ find default-name=...

atakacs

Hello I'm seeing something unexpected with my DHCP server. I have two servers defined, bound to two different networks and adapters: [mktadmin@mkt-sx-00] /ip/dhcp-server> print Columns: NAME, INTERFACE, ADDRESS-POOL, LEASE-TIME # NAME INTERFACE ADDRESS-POOL LEASE-TIME 0 dhcp-Net1 bridgeNet1 dhcp-Net...

atakacs

Do you see anything that should not me here ? [xxx@mkt-sx-00] /system package> print Flags: X - disabled # NAME VERSION SCHEDULED 0 routeros-tile 6.49.1 1 system 6.49.1 2 ipv6 6.49.1 3 wireless 6.49.1 4 hotspot 6.49.1 5 mpls 6.49.1 6 routing 6.49.1 7 ppp 6.49.1 8 dhcp 6.49.1 9 security 6.49.1 10 adv...

atakacs

Was rc7 pulled ?

I could download earlier today but not now (2300 GMT) ?

atakacs

Thanks - didn't realise Wireguard was now proposed by RouterOS.

atakacs

I’d be interested to hear about your opinion about the best protocol to use to site to site VPN. This is Mikrotik to Mikrotik. Each side has multiple subnets. By “best” I mean Easy to setup Performance Reliability I have a few IPSec setups that work but I find them rather hard to setup - and some ju...

atakacs

i recommend you use CHR. I already use several CHR routers on 1Gbps WAN links with GRE+IPsec tunnels (aes-128 gcm). Even with 1vCPU routers can 950Mbps.

That's rather impressive.

atakacs

Thanks I'm afraid this is getting somewhat above my "paygrade" (or more to the point my level of competency). I dont think there is any issue with the WAN link between the two sites - both are on a Gb symmetric fiber with high level SLA. Ping is stable between both sites and absolutely &qu...

atakacs

Hello I need to setup a site to site VPN where the Mikrotik router holds multiple subnets. The remote site is managed via a Ubiquiti USG. https://i.imgur.com/stu35Ls.png Overall I have this setup on the mikrotik https://i.imgur.com/Pp4nkr5.png The tunnel is established but I have a hard time reachin...

atakacs

Understood - thanks

atakacs

Thans for all those excellent advises that I am implenting as we speak !
A bit of a thread drift but how do you do port knocking in mikrotk ?

atakacs

Might be a little thick but can i push return routes on the OVPN server from the client ?! I so how ?

atakacs

Hi My very fist firewall filter rule is [xxx@mkt-sx-00] /ip firewall filter> print Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid, D - dynamic 0 ;;; drop blacklisted chain=forward action=drop src-address-list=DenyLIst log=yes log-prefix="deny-" I have IP 190.6.38.79 in my DenyLIst yet it seem to find a ...

atakacs

Hi

Probably a stupid quesiton... but what's the point of a 64bits Winbox ? what use case / config would require it ?

Just curious :)

atakacs

You can include them in the .ovpn configuration, e.g. route 192.168.99.0 255.255.255.0 vpn_gateway

This is mikrotik to mikrotik - are there ovpn config files involved (I only ibnteract with the Winbox GUI or CLI) ?

atakacs

hmm so what choices do I have ?
write a script that add those routes ?

atakacs

Hello I have a setup with a site to site OpenVPN tunnels which require static routing (ie to subnets “behind” the Ovpn). On the client side I am using the parameter routes on the /ppp secret row, where I can specify a destination gateway. This works fine to route from the client subnet(s) to the ser...

atakacs

I have a working IPSec site to site VPN and I now need to make a second subnet available behind one of the routers. As far as I understand the IPSec Policy only maps 1:1 (ie one source to one destination subnet) I have tried to duplicate the policy but although the new one would work this kills the ...

atakacs

I agree that the website doesn't inspire much confidence... that's why I was asking for feedback... of which I got none. I guess in and itself it is already saying something :)

atakacs

Thanks for the feedback so far. I understand & appreciate the limits / issues that such a concept is raising. What I wanted to hear was actualy first hand experience with it (or equivelent product). Out of curiousity, how are the "real pro" handling this when you have hundreds of devic...

atakacs

Hi

Not seeing much discussion about this service here.

Anyone using it ? Feedback ? Issues ?

Thanks in advance !

atakacs

Maybe - let me give it a try (it might be all I need it this works every time a client connects)

atakacs

Hello I have a setup with some site to site OpenVPN tunnels which require static routing (ie to subnets “behind” the Ovpn. Everything works perfectly except that sometime the Ovpn tunnel will go down and will become “unreachable” in the static routes. When it reconnects the route remains down and I ...

atakacs

If anyone happens to have the same issue: I was somehow missing the matching private key on the client router (thought I had it transferred but turned out not to be the case).
Still wish we could have a more explicit log entry...

atakacs

Hello Trying to setup a site to site OVPN but for some reason I can't seem to have both router connecting. On server I see: 18:55:52 ovpn,info TCP connection established from *.*.*.* 18:55:52 ovpn,debug,packet sent P_CONTROL_HARD_RESET_SERVER_V2 kid=0 sid=cb632957515156 pid=0 DATA len=0 18:55:52 ovp...

atakacs

Typing in the IP of any shared resource connects to and from... But you have to know what you are looking for.

Yep - I guess we will have to settle to that solution. IP could be assigned based on the MAC of each device (there are not that many of them)... but we would have loved to step it up :)

atakacs

Any further thoughts on this ? :)

atakacs

In a few words the router (CCR) is servicing multiple, segregated, subnets. I wanted to give SSTP VPN access to the various users of said unrelated subnets - different user / pass / cert - based on the the public IP.

atakacs

Thanks for confirming.

atakacs

Hello

Is is possible to have mutiple SSTP servers ?

I have a range of public IPs and currently run SSTP server bound to one of the public IP. Can I have more than one server, bound to a different IP. I guess not but just checking...

atakacs

Hi Thanks for your interest :) Well, let’s indeed assume 5 warehouses. Each have their unique network with unique subnet - very basic needs (some local LAN devices, internet access). Then we have some unique “line of business” hardware that needs to be able to roam across those 5 warehouses at any t...

atakacs

Pretty close with multiple warehouses - we will need a specific (dedicated) network (in pratice a specific ETH attached to the router) to allow connecting and "seeing" across all the other locations at any given point. In essece whereever you are, assuming you plug into the "right&quo...

atakacs

Hello I would like to setup a site-to-site setup to deploy around all of the remote sites where all “local” subnets would “see” each other, as well as the “hub” site (idealy with Bonjour/mDNS working across the subnets): https://i.imgur.com/uNA6je2.jpg What would be the best approach for such a setu...

atakacs

Did you manage to sort out this issue ?

I gather you are using https://pritunl.com/ (which I am looking into) ?

atakacs

Wow... lots of options :)

Any input as of which would be the most relevant for use in Switzerland (Swisscom or Surise) ?

atakacs

Thanks - yes it seems I will need both ends of the conversation.

That being said I see

04:47:41 ipsec,debug -an acceptable proposal found- 
04:47:41 ipsec,debug dh(modp1024) 
04:47:41 ipsec,debug -agreed on pre-shared key auth-

so there is _some_ handshake going on.

atakacs

Thanks - good catch on both points. Corrected - still not conencting, athough the hadshake seem to work ok. I can't pinpoint at what step if actually fails... 13:32:58 ipsec,debug === 13:32:58 ipsec,info initiate new phase 1 (Identity Protection): *.*.*.*[500]<=>*.*.*.*[500] 13:32:58 ipsec,debug new...

atakacs

I am probably blind. Where does it say that it fails? See last line " error phase1 negotiation failed due to time up " Also during the whole "handshake" phase it stays on https://i.imgur.com/ETuUGgd.png From my own experience - you should check logs on both sides. They might not...

atakacs

Hi Trying to setup a site to site VPN and despite what I believe to be similar settings on both ends (Mikrotik to Zywall 110) the negociation fails. 04:47:41 ipsec,info initiate new phase 1 (Identity Protection): *.*.*.*[500]<=>*.*.*.*[500] 04:47:41 ipsec,debug new cookie: 04:47:41 ipsec,debug 77412...

atakacs

Thanks - that's a neat trick I will make a note of.
I eventually restored a known working backup - I'm still not exactly sure of what I broke there (is there some sort of "diff" tool ?) but it worked out of the box and I simply re-applied the few changes I had since.

atakacs

Any suggestion ? What can I "trace" to see why my connections are not going through ? Bit strange...

atakacs

nope

atakacs

Probably a dumb question but can't figure it out... for some reason I seem to be locked out of ssh / winbox on my router from LAN. Thankfully I have console access but still can't see what is blocking me... I can ping the box from LAN and traffic is flowing ssh & winbox services are active I hav...

atakacs

Just wanted to say that I find this thread both fascinating and instructive :)

atakacs

I have inherited a few hotel sites running Mikrotik infra with captive portal for WiFi access for their guests. Although things seem to be mostly working ok I suspect some users are managing to bypass the portal to get “unauthorised” internet access. I am trying to understand and locate those possib...

atakacs

Thanks - sounds like a clever approach. I have added the rule and there is some progress as packets to subnet 172.16.107.0/24 are not anymore egressing to WAN but are just lost. Can I use /tool sniffer to check if they are actually getting into the tunnel (which would point with an issue with the re...

atakacs

I am getting back to his subject as I am clearly still not fully understanding how this is supposed to work. I have an IPsec site-to-site setup where the tunnel comes up ok but I don't have any traffic into the tunnel. If I do a traceroute I see that my packet are (obviously) getting to the gateway ...

atakacs

To find out whether the issue is at Mikrotik side or the USG side, run /tool sniffer quick interface=<pptp-ccc-usg> ip-protocol=icmp while pinging something else than 172.16.107.254 in 172.16.107.0/24 from 172.16.100.0/24. If you can see ICMP packets towards the pinged IP, the issue is at USG side;...

atakacs

hmm can't seem to figure it out. I would really appreciate any suggestion

atakacs

Hello I'm having a routing issue with a PPTP site to site VPN (between a USG pro and a Mikrotik, and I feel the issue is on the Mikrotik side). On the USG side I have subnet 172.16.107.0/24 with GW 254 On the Mikrotik side I have subnet 172.16.100.0/24 with GW 254 The tunnel comes up without problem...

atakacs

Many thanks for your explanations ! Most educative !

atakacs

Thanks - good starting point for my understanding.

When you say "everything adds routes" do you mean "automatically" or "needed to be explicitly added" ?

Is the policy matcher triggering before the IP routes ?

atakacs

Hello I am a bit confused about how (if at all) VPN connections are creating automatic routes in the router and to what extent I have to manage them. My question pertains to PPTP, IPsec and SSTP (I do not use OpenVPN but as we are at it I would be interested to read about it too...). My (admittedly ...

atakacs

It depends. In case the client gets IP address from LAN subnet, you need proxy ARP on LAN interface. Firewall can also be the cause.

Aha - yes they do get IP from the same pool that serves the LAN subnet. Is that not best practice ?

atakacs

Hi I have setup a L2TP VPN server on my Mikrotik for use with a Win 10 client to connect. I can initiate the tunnel & connect successfully. I get an IP in the expected subnet from the expected IP pool. My traffic is actually redirected through the VPN gateway (it is by default gateway) - all see...

atakacs

Some things you should try to do yourself atleast, below is where you can change the default route distance on a DHCP client

More than happy to do so and to learn but quite frankly had no idea how to change the default route distance on a DHCP client... Thanks for your help there !

atakacs

Next question is how do I achieve it ? Those automatic routes don't seem to be "editable", at least not from Winbox...

Anyone ... ?

atakacs

I'll probably go with a) as it seems to be the easiest way to get things working (in any case this is only a short term project).

Next question is how do I achieve it ? Those automatic routes don't seem to be "editable", at least not from Winbox...

atakacs

Thanks for your detailed answer - let me try to understand (as there is an obvious educational opportunity here :) ) - clients' 10.2.0.x are only point to point /32 addresses, so other 10.2.0.y are not automatically reachable as part of same subnet, they are routed via B Ok - understood - client A h...

atakacs

Disabled firewall - not working

atakacs

I am having the following setup https://i.imgur.com/6KXJbEy.jpg A is a windows workstation connected to a linux box (B) via a L2TP VPN tunnel C is a Mikrotik router connect to the same linux box (B) via a L2TP VPN tunnel D is a server connected the the LAN side of C The IP are assigned as indicated ...

atakacs

Cosmetic error on a RB1100AHx4 in Winbox under System>Health. It's showing 49.5 amps. Terminal is showing 495 ma.

Oh- was about to ask for an upgrade from our electric provider

atakacs

Many thanks - I have managed to have it working !

atakacs

Hi I have the following (working) ovpn client config file that I'd like to use from the Mikrotik OpenVPN client (which does - obviously ? - not understand ovpn files) dev tun persist-tun persist-key cipher AES-128-CBC ncp-ciphers AES-256-GCM:AES-128-GCM auth SHA1 tls-client client resolv-retry infin...

atakacs

Hi I'm trying to setup a site to site connection via PPTP but although I managed to have it connecting very quickly I don't have traffic flowing. On relevant item is that I don't see addresses assigned to either peers (although I defined a valid pool for both). https://i.imgur.com/KRxb4rM.jpg https:...

atakacs

I'm a bit confused about this. How is the new IP "passed" to the other peer ? I understand that you check the local IP and if it change you modify the IPsec profiles - locally it is pretty trivial but how do you "signal" the remote peer to adapt ?`

atakacs

Thanks for this detailed explanation ! Sorry for my somewhat unclear initial description - I wanted to keep it generic. In the case at hand subnet A is 172.16.10.0/24 and subnet B is 172.16.100.0/24. A to B works, B to A does not. Will review my settings per your suggestion and revert.

atakacs

Well it might not make much sense but it is happening right in front of my eyes... 100% reproducible. I can switch between both states at will.

One thing of interrest is that I use SSTP server on said router (which is also on 443 I understand). I think it is somehow realated.

atakacs

well I have this

the Azure policy works (site to site to Azure)
the IM office does not (site to site Mk)

atakacs

Thanks - my "solution" (a separate rule for 443) works well enough as is.

What I'd like to understand is what is actually happening "behind the scene" so to speak. What I do differently in setting up a single port vs multi-port NAT rule ?

atakacs

Hi Currently setting up a site to site VPN and I'm having an issue which seems to be related to routing. The tunnel comes up and I can ping from site A to site B. However I can not reach site A from site B. If I do a traceroute from site B the packets to site A are egressing on the WAN - ie the rout...

atakacs

I am in need of some clarification about the syntax to use in a Firewall / NAT rule. I have this (typical for an Exchange server) rule: https://i.imgur.com/dYWcbRC.jpg https://i.imgur.com/hkx1Dlo.jpg That does not work as intended. Ports 25,465,587 and 2525 are forwarded to 172.16.100.20 but 443 end...

atakacs

ok self solved...

it was the use of < and > in the IP addresses .... a no no !

atakacs

Thanks - that was it !

atakacs

Because characters < and > shouldn't be there. It's just dst-address=172.16.175.0/24. Right you are - interestingly they would not matter if you enter a single IP, such as in /ip ipsec peer add address=<1.2.3.4> exchange-mode=ike2 local-address=<5.6.7.8> \ name="Somethng" profile="So...

atakacs

Hi /ip ipsec policy add dst-address=<172.16.175.0/24> peer="myPeer" proposal="myProposal" sa-dst-address=<1.2.3.4> sa-src-address=<5.6.7.8> src-address=<172.16.100.0/24> tunnel=yes expected end of command (line 1 column 35) Having a syntax issue - apparently the "peer" ...

atakacs

Probably a dumb question but why does this fail

[me@mikrotik.contoso.com] /ip firewall nat> add action=accept chain=srcnat comment="Something" dst-address=<172.16.175.0/24> src-address=<172.16.100.0/24>
value of range must have ip address before '/'

Thanks

atakacs

I'm having a setup in which i establish an SSTP tunnel to a remote site and have a route set to reach the remote subnet (192.168.168.0/24 here) through that tunnel - works fine https://i.imgur.com/C1YRwvt.jpg However, at random intervals, I lose my setting - the route reverts to an "unknown&quo...

atakacs

may I ask how this was solved (I don't see a resolution, but I might be missing something

) ?

atakacs

Hi did you manage to sort it out ? I seem to have the exact same issue. That being said my problem is (at least partially) on the Mikrotik side. If I do a traceroute to the private IP of the remote (Azure) subnet my packets are egressing through the WAN IP, not the trough the tunnel (which is up in ...

atakacs

Hi Bit of a newbie here... please bear with me. I have the following scenario: Internet WAN of ETH1. 2 LAN on ETH2 and ETH3 SSTP tunnel built from Mk to a server on WAN. I'd like to have one "classic" subnet on ETH2 with a DHCP range etc for LAN access to the Internet and another segregate...

atakacs

ok

do you know how I can "lock it" to a given network (MCC MNC 214 01 in my case) ? Some AT command I guess but not sure how to get there..

atakacs

thanks - yes it seems to work.

did you manage to do a scan of available networks ?

atakacs

Well I have managed to have it working but I think it has fairly limited support from ROS (many of the features don't work or are reported as not supported).

Again if anyone has any experience chime in !

atakacs

Thanks - it was indeed an issue with the Winbox version. 3.18 allowed me in - updated - all ok !

atakacs

Thanks

I might be a bit thick but I don't seem to find the note you are mentioning...

atakacs

Hi I am trying to "resurrect" a relatively (I'd say a 3-4 years) old RouterBoard RB953GS. For some reason I can't seem to be able to connect - after boot it comes up like this in Winbox https://i.imgur.com/e5sS8Mm.jpg but can't seem to actually connect. After a few minutes it altogether di...

atakacs

Is there official position from Mikrotik about that ?

I think the overwhelming opinion of the community is very positive about Wireguard. Is it something you are exploring ? commiting to ? definitely not on the roadmap ?

atakacs

Hi

Anyone using one of those LTE modems with Mikrotik RouterBOARD ? Anything I should be aware of ?

Any feedback welcome !

atakacs

Sorry I muss be a little thick... What do you propose I do ?
There is no direct link A to C - everything comes either from B or through B. So I make a srcnat from 172.16.100.0/24 (B subnet) to 192.168.28.1 (D gateway) ?

atakacs

Is is possible that same router has both 192.168.199.247 and 192.168.199.3? Further hops depend on following routers, either they must have route to source address (I guess they don't), or you must use srcnat on the last one that does have it. You are correct: router C has both 192.168.199.247 and ...

atakacs

Ok back to the bench... So this is router B https://i.imgur.com/sDTlYOP.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lgpquCV.jpg I have defined a route to router C GW (which is 192.168.199.247) - yet my traffic goes to 192.168.199.3 (If I understand this correctly) and does not go further ? Back on the VPN question: if ...

atakacs

Thanks
When you say "Both A and B must know where to find D's subnet (behind C is the answer)" you mean that I have to define a route to subnet D via GW C ?
Just for my understanding: does the VPN tunnel "auto-create" a route for each subnet on the other side?

atakacs

Hi I have a (possibly obvious) routing question. I have a setup with four routers as below. Routes A, B and C are Mikrotik and under my control. Router D is unknown and not under my control (this is a setup I have recently "inherited"). Sorry for the crude schema... https://i.imgur.com/ISN...

atakacs

yep, that's the one - was wondering if it was a latter iteration of the design. Thanks.

atakacs

Hi

Having some time to sort through my equipment messes I have recently unhoardered a routerboard labelled 953GS 5HPnt

Except that I can't find this reference on the Mikrotik site, nor in current or past hardware. Any hint ?

Thanks & regards

atakacs

Thanks for your follow up - eventually managed to have it working but honestly can't remember what was the specific issue...

atakacs

Hello
I am trying to define a site to site IPSEC to an Ubiquiti Security Gateway (USG Pro 4). I don't get too far...

Anyone done that ? Seems something missing in the initial dialogue.

atakacs

We are currently replacing our existing RB2011UAS-2HnD-IN by a CCR1009-7G-1C-+S+PC. Our fiber connection is delivered directly via this SFP module that was working absolutely flawlessly https://i.imgur.com/WmZDUt6.jpg but it does not seem to be recognised by the new router. Is this normal / expected...

atakacs

Thanks

We unfortunately don't run 10Gb yet so, as long as it works (which is the case so far), there would not be any significant advantage to move to CHR ?

atakacs

Hello

At some site we are currently running virtualized RouterOS instances on ESX since 2-3 years, ie. before CHR was released.

Overall this works fine but i was wondering if there was a case in migrating towards CHR ?

Any insight / advice you might have would be most welcome.

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