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The IP of the bridge is occasionally unavailable

Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:16 pm

Hi,

This is my setup:
2024-12-18_10h45_38.png
All switches are connected with 1gbit to the core switch.
The problem is, from my PC, connected to "Buero-Dennis" the ping to the bridge looks like this:
2024-12-18_10h46_41.png
I just checked the VLAN configuration if there is a loop, i would say, this looks good.

The log of the core switch is pretty much empty. Any idea or hints how to start investigating?
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Re: The IP of the bridge is occasionally unavailable

Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:47 pm

1. Ping from PC to Buero-Dennis
2. Ping from Buero-Dennis (tools) to Core
3. Check or remove (set none) STP/RSTP/MSTP
4. Check ethernet counters
5. Check Bridge status for Root bridge election, check Link down counters
6. Anything connected that can trigger a "Root bridge election" ?
7. Broadcast storms or other excessive traffic bursts?

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Re: The IP of the bridge is occasionally unavailable

Wed Dec 18, 2024 3:20 pm

Check Bridge STP priority as well if STP/RSTP/MSTP is used.
Core switch should have lowest priority.

See here for more info:
https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/spaces/R ... ionprocess
 
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Re: The IP of the bridge is occasionally unavailable

Wed Dec 18, 2024 3:26 pm

Ping from PC to Buero-Dennis -> Stable 1ms
Ping from PC to Firewall (which is connected on Core) -> Stable 1ms
Ping from Firewall to Core -> occasionally timeouts
Ping from Buero-Dennis to Core -> occasionally Timeouts

All switches have problems to ping the core switch.

STP was set to RSTP (on all switches), tried now set to NONE (on all switches), no improvement.

Bridge Interface on all switches shows no Drops or Errors.

checking now the other suggestions, but first i need todo some research on those features, as they are unknown to me.

Thank you very much for your help!
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Re: The IP of the bridge is occasionally unavailable

Wed Dec 18, 2024 3:45 pm

Is it normal that the first interface has the same mac as the bridge?

if i ping the mac of the bridge of the core switch i receive double the amount of packages than i have sent, isn't that weird? :)
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Re: The IP of the bridge is occasionally unavailable

Wed Dec 18, 2024 4:01 pm

Is it normal that the first interface has the same mac as the bridge?
This is default behaviour if you don't set bridge MAC manually (bridge assumes MAC address of first member port).

To the topic: so basically your core switch doesn't respond to every ping sent at, regardless of where it was sent from. So it might be something about core switch IP configuration (or it might actually be overloaded ... run CPU profiler and see if that might be the case).
 
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Re: The IP of the bridge is occasionally unavailable

Wed Dec 18, 2024 4:12 pm

The D4:01:C3...... is seemingly the Chateau LTE12? :?:
 
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Re: The IP of the bridge is occasionally unavailable

Wed Dec 18, 2024 4:19 pm

To the topic: so basically your core switch doesn't respond to every ping sent at, regardless of where it was sent from. So it might be something about core switch IP configuration (or it might actually be overloaded ... run CPU profiler and see if that might be the case).
CPU total is about 16-24 - looks good to me if it's a percentage metric.

IP configuration could be a thing. Pinging the mac-address seems stable without any packet loss. I also changed the ip address, but the timeouts still persist.
IP configuration of the bridge:
2024-12-18_15h17_05.png
Btw: the coreswitch is also acting as a CAPsMAN, i disabled it, but the timeouts still persist.

No firewall rules present
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Re: The IP of the bridge is occasionally unavailable

Wed Dec 18, 2024 4:21 pm

The D4:01:C3...... is seemingly the Chateau LTE12? :?:
ah sorry - this was a screenshot from a wrong switch. i cross-checked the behaviour of the ping and the mac-address configuration with a different device, this was a hAP ac^3
 
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Re: The IP of the bridge is occasionally unavailable

Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:30 pm

And anything on the ethernet interfaces? ..RX or TX Pause, Error, Underrun, Collision, .... etc
4. Check ethernet counters
 
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Re: The IP of the bridge is occasionally unavailable

Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:39 pm

To the topic: so basically your core switch doesn't respond to every ping sent at, regardless of where it was sent from. So it might be something about core switch IP configuration (or it might actually be overloaded ... run CPU profiler and see if that might be the case).
CPU total is about 16-24 - looks good to me if it's a percentage metric.
CRS328 has 1 or 2 cores (depending on ROS version running)... so 24% total CPU load can mean one CPU core loaded to almost 50% and that would be a problem. That's why I suggested to run CPU profiler (it shows load per CPU core and per process). And if CRS is configured properly and used as a switch, it should work with CPU load almost zero.
 
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Re: The IP of the bridge is occasionally unavailable

Fri Dec 20, 2024 1:26 pm

Thank you guys for your support! I really appreciate it :) but the issue still persist :(

And anything on the ethernet interfaces? ..RX or TX Pause, Error, Underrun, Collision, .... etc
All interfaces show no RX/TX drops or errors in the Interface List.

CRS328 has 1 or 2 cores (depending on ROS version running)... so 24% total CPU load can mean one CPU core loaded to almost 50% and that would be a problem. That's why I suggested to run CPU profiler (it shows load per CPU core and per process). And if CRS is configured properly and used as a switch, it should work with CPU load almost zero.
Ah yes, i remember. I checked the configuration - all Interfaces are using Hardware offloading. Profiler screenshot:
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Re: The IP of the bridge is occasionally unavailable

Fri Dec 20, 2024 1:36 pm

How does profile output look like while pings are timing out?
 
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Re: The IP of the bridge is occasionally unavailable

Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:37 pm

The same, i was pinging during the creation of this screenshot
 
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Re: The IP of the bridge is occasionally unavailable  [SOLVED]

Mon Jan 06, 2025 1:11 pm

Finally i found the error.

I had some VLANs configured in the Interfaces / VLAN tab, as soon as i deleted all VLAN configurations in that tab the ping was giving me stable responses. I have all VLANs configured in the Bridge, so that should do the magic. i don't know why i had the VLANs there, maybe there were created during some CAPsMAN try&error.

Everything is working for now.
 
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Re: The IP of the bridge is occasionally unavailable

Mon Jan 06, 2025 1:22 pm

When using VLAN's, you should create an /interface/vlan for management purposes. And...the bridge should not have an IP address when using VLAN filtering. My best guess is that it does, but that would require the config for confirmation.

Don't know if you are familiar with this great topic:
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Re: The IP of the bridge is occasionally unavailable

Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:04 am

For which management purposes? Management by who? By the switch chip?

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