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What hardware for connecting 50m to shop

Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:51 pm

I have a small shop about 50m behind my house. I have a wAP ac pointing toward the shop that gives good coverage in the backyard and fairly good inside the shop. However, there are some weak spots, and I just put a couple Ring Stick-Ups out there and the connection is intermittent. It looks like one of the Wireless Wire devices will do what I need, but which one? The prices at some dealers are fairly close, but I don't want to go overkill. I might at some point replace those Ring cams with proper security cams, but other than that, I don't need a lot of throughput. I just want a reliable connection. What hardware should I use?

Also, what do I need at the remote end? I have an RB5009 in the house that would connect to one of the units. Beam to the second unit. And then... I have a hAP ac lite that I got for learning/experimenting. Could I connect to that and have wired and wireless devices in the shop that are connected on the same network as the house?

Appreciate any advice.
 
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Re: What hardware for connecting 50m to shop

Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:17 pm

You can consider this:
https://mikrotik.com/product/wireless_wire

I'm using it for link between garage and my house.
 
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Re: What hardware for connecting 50m to shop

Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:08 am

I have a small shop about 50m behind my house. I have a wAP ac pointing toward the shop that gives good coverage in the backyard and fairly good inside the shop. However, there are some weak spots, and I just put a couple Ring Stick-Ups out there and the connection is intermittent. It looks like one of the Wireless Wire devices will do what I need, but which one? The prices at some dealers are fairly close, but I don't want to go overkill. I might at some point replace those Ring cams with proper security cams, but other than that, I don't need a lot of throughput. I just want a reliable connection. What hardware should I use?

Also, what do I need at the remote end? I have an RB5009 in the house that would connect to one of the units. Beam to the second unit. And then... I have a hAP ac lite that I got for learning/experimenting. Could I connect to that and have wired and wireless devices in the shop that are connected on the same network as the house?

Appreciate any advice.
60ghz sound like a overkill. If you have already wap ac mounted on house wall you can mount another one on shop wall and create PTP link that way. Then run wire inside shop and do AP deployment as you need. 50m should be fine for wap ac, in 2.4ghz and 5ghz bands.
 
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Re: What hardware for connecting 50m to shop

Thu Jul 27, 2023 8:55 am

50 meter? Why not use an Ethernet cable? It supports 100 meter.
 
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Re: What hardware for connecting 50m to shop

Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:30 pm

60ghz sound like a overkill. If you have already wap ac mounted on house wall you can mount another one on shop wall and create PTP link that way. Then run wire inside shop and do AP deployment as you need. 50m should be fine for wap ac, in 2.4ghz and 5ghz bands.
I didn't realize they could be used that way. Would I still be able to use the wAP ac on my house as an AP to provide access around my backyard as well as a PTP link to shop?
 
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Re: What hardware for connecting 50m to shop

Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:36 pm

50 meter? Why not use an Ethernet cable? It supports 100 meter.
I would MUCH rather have a hard line out there. I have plenty of 6A. I'm mainly worried I'd run in to some of the other burried lines (power, water, sewage) and big roots from an old red oak out there. A lot less worry to just go wireless.
 
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Re: What hardware for connecting 50m to shop

Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:42 pm

keep in mind:

buried or not copper cable between buildings + storm = Burned Equipment
 
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Re: What hardware for connecting 50m to shop

Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:43 pm

60ghz sound like a overkill. If you have already wap ac mounted on house wall you can mount another one on shop wall and create PTP link that way. Then run wire inside shop and do AP deployment as you need. 50m should be fine for wap ac, in 2.4ghz and 5ghz bands.
I didn't realize they could be used that way. Would I still be able to use the wAP ac on my house as an AP to provide access around my backyard as well as a PTP link to shop?
wap ac on shop wall will be like any other station (STA), like your phone. It connects to house WiFi and then passes it on to wire that goes into your shop (it acts as a bridge). You can also provide WiFi from that shop wap ac if needed, as PTP will take only one radio for connection. For example you connect to house AP whit 5ghz band (that's your PTP link), and setup 2.4ghz band as ap bridge to provide internet access to guests for example.
 
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Re: What hardware for connecting 50m to shop

Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:55 pm

dropcore/outdoor fiber optic cable + sfp or fiber converter ?
 
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Re: What hardware for connecting 50m to shop

Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:27 am

Still, if OP wants the simplest solution then one proposed by @maigonis is the best. But wire is wire and while I agree that cable hanging in the air is riskier in case of thunderstorm I see no reason to bury cable in ground if possible.
 
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Re: What hardware for connecting 50m to shop

Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:32 am

... I see no reason to bury cable in ground if possible.
As indicated by OP, there is already too much in the ground there for the same trajectory ...
While I am very much in favor to use fixed wire as much as possible, wireless can be the easiest alternative in some cases.

Afterwards easy to say but foreseeing an empty pipe when installing those utility cables/connections to the shop, would have been a life-saver now.
But again, that's easy to say now.
 
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Re: What hardware for connecting 50m to shop

Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:27 pm

while I agree that cable hanging in the air is riskier in case of thunderstorm I see no reason to bury cable in ground if possible.
Not with a fibre cable.
 
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Re: What hardware for connecting 50m to shop

Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:35 pm

Yea, i agree, but in this case that is total overkill. The best thing is to stick with simple solution.