Hi folks!
I bought a L009 for my home for a very simpler routing purpose: ETH1 is my WAN with 1000MBit speed, SFP is LAN1 and ETH2-ETH8 is LAN2.
So, two LANs, one WAN.
If I do a speedtest on either LAN, the resulting speed is about 650MBit/s. If I use my RB4011 with the same configuration, I get 950MBit/s.
The CPU load is at 35%-40% on my L009 while doing the speedtest. I think all data is taking the fasttrack through the firewall.
So - it is the router but if the CPU load is not 100%, why? And what can I do?
Thanks for your help!
Re: L009UiGS-2HaxD-IN fast enough for 1GBIT Internet?
The L009 is a replacement for the RB2011, not the RB4011. If you look at the routing specs, what you see is what is expected. You can post your config to have someone look at it and see if there are any tweaks, but I doubt it will perform as well as the 4011. You should keep the 4011 and use the L009 as an AP or return it and get a RB5009 if you want something truly faster.
Re: L009UiGS-2HaxD-IN fast enough for 1GBIT Internet?
I have no experience with this model, but I would expect better results with the default config (FastTrack). Almost everything you add thereafter will increase CPU load. Did you check the individual cores or just the average ? The average result under CPU can hide a single core at 100% which becomes a bottleneck. Theoretical interconnect speed and actual performance are also two things...
Sadly, the L009 is a weak device for Gigabit internet that can't be compared to the 4011. The SoC in the latter is in a different class, even if it's a much older device. A53 is designed for low power applications, not performance. At two cores, this is a low cost platform as well.
The test results from MT for 25 rules/512 byte is a good metric for real world performance.
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/system resource cpu printSadly, the L009 is a weak device for Gigabit internet that can't be compared to the 4011. The SoC in the latter is in a different class, even if it's a much older device. A53 is designed for low power applications, not performance. At two cores, this is a low cost platform as well.
The test results from MT for 25 rules/512 byte is a good metric for real world performance.
Re: L009UiGS-2HaxD-IN fast enough for 1GBIT Internet?
What you can do is actually research a product before buying it.
Too late now, but on the product page have a look at TEST RESULTS.
The throughput one should expect to get with some basic filter rules is somewhere between 300-600Mbps.
For 1 gig throughput your best bets are.
a. hapax3 --> just over 1Gig if on a budget
b. RB5009 --> Can handle a 2.5gb connection ( good for two 1 gig wan connections for example )
Too late now, but on the product page have a look at TEST RESULTS.
The throughput one should expect to get with some basic filter rules is somewhere between 300-600Mbps.
For 1 gig throughput your best bets are.
a. hapax3 --> just over 1Gig if on a budget
b. RB5009 --> Can handle a 2.5gb connection ( good for two 1 gig wan connections for example )
Re: L009UiGS-2HaxD-IN fast enough for 1GBIT Internet?
Just for giggles hAP ax2 & cAP ax
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hAP ax---> WiFi----> to PC
status: udp download
time-remaining: 14s
ping-min-avg-max: 1.77ms / 2.63ms / 4.81ms
jitter-min-avg-max: 3us / 334us / 2.22ms
loss: 0% (0/200)
tcp-download: 710Mbps local-cpu-load:76%
tcp-upload: 740Mbps local-cpu-load:32% remote-cpu-load:0%
status: done hAP ax--->cAP ax
time-remaining: 0s
ping-min-avg-max: 152us / 215us / 1.09ms
jitter-min-avg-max: 0s / 36us / 866us
loss: 0% (0/200)
tcp-download: 930Mbps local-cpu-load:64%
tcp-upload: 935Mbps local-cpu-load:59% remote-cpu-load:54%
udp-download: 942Mbps local-cpu-load:39% remote-cpu-load:31%
udp-upload: 958Mbps local-cpu-load:53% remote-cpu-load:25%
status: done cAP--->hAP
time-remaining: 0s
ping-min-avg-max: 156us / 218us / 487us
jitter-min-avg-max: 0s / 30us / 280us
loss: 0% (0/200)
tcp-download: 928Mbps local-cpu-load:42%
tcp-upload: 934Mbps local-cpu-load:34% remote-cpu-load:71%
udp-download: 941Mbps local-cpu-load:23% remote-cpu-load:54%
udp-upload: 955Mbps local-cpu-load:32% remote-cpu-load:50%
status: running
duration: 20s
tx-current: 906.7Mbps
tx-10-second-average: 912.3Mbps
tx-total-average: 923.7Mbps
rx-current: 962.7Mbps
rx-10-second-average: 957.3Mbps
rx-total-average: 918.1Mbps
lost-packets: 7264
random-data: no
direction: both
tx-size: 1500
rx-size: 1500
connection-count: 20
local-cpu-load: 77% hAP ax2
remote-cpu-load: 57% cAP ax-
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Re: L009UiGS-2HaxD-IN fast enough for 1GBIT Internet?
Yes, of course I know that the RB4011 is much better.
But, the only reason why I did buy the RB4011 before was that there was no router some years ago with 8x/10x gigabit ports AND SFP. The RB2011 just hat 5.
I have a very simple task with nearly no special rules - only the routing of two lans. And, yes, call me naive - I thought this must be possible with the L009...
And I had some port flipping with RB4011. I thought I use the chance to replace it.
A simple and naive question: Why do I have a router with Gibit ports if he is not able to rout in GBits speed with a simple fasttrack rule?
But, the only reason why I did buy the RB4011 before was that there was no router some years ago with 8x/10x gigabit ports AND SFP. The RB2011 just hat 5.
I have a very simple task with nearly no special rules - only the routing of two lans. And, yes, call me naive - I thought this must be possible with the L009...
And I had some port flipping with RB4011. I thought I use the chance to replace it.
A simple and naive question: Why do I have a router with Gibit ports if he is not able to rout in GBits speed with a simple fasttrack rule?
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Why do I have a router with Gibit ports if he is not able to rout in GBits speed with a simple fasttrack rule?
Router/switch combo.
Let's say you're one of deprivileged folks with xDSL broadband line, which supports something less than 100Mbps of data rate, so capacity of routing at a few hundred Mbps is plenty. And then you have a few Gbps devices, also a nice little NAS (Gbps as well). Since all of your UTP wiring is routed to the central place (we all do, right?) and number of devices is small, you need an 8-port Gbps switch. And there you have a L009, which can switch between ports at Gbps and can route at a few hundred Mbps.
Re: L009UiGS-2HaxD-IN fast enough for 1GBIT Internet?
That same question could be said about an RB450G which definitely could not route 1Gbit/s. Gigabit ports are needed to route more than 100MB/s so while the port can negotiate at 1Gbit, routing speed is another matter.
Re: L009UiGS-2HaxD-IN fast enough for 1GBIT Internet?
A simple and naive question: Why do I have a router with Gibit ports if he is not able to rout in GBits speed with a simple fasttrack rule?
While mkx's explanation is valid, there is also marketing. The SoC manufacturers sell products with planned interconnects for various retail products with hype and carefully worded data sheets. Bigger numbers tend to sell better with computing products and in between Ethernet standards were never developed. Low-cost says limitations, regardless of the wording. Many networking devices with 2.5G and 10G ports sold today can't possibly achieve those speeds, even on LAN (just like 1G was hard to achieve when those ports started to appear on consumer products many years ago). Unlike other companies, MT does publish performance numbers with their products. If you can't return it, using it as a switch sounds like a reasonable option. In any case, NAT kills routing performance vs switching where the PHY does most of the work.
I found a link about that SoC - it has words like high-speed and high performance...as you found out, those words can have different meanings to different people:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ipq5018- ... -yiyi-peng
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Re: L009UiGS-2HaxD-IN fast enough for 1GBIT Internet?
Okay, thanks for the quick feedback and help. Much appreciated.
I will think about my options.
I can simply accept 600-700MBit/s as this is usually enough.
I can also disable the bridge-mode on my cable-router and take it into my home-network, which would move the NATing back to my provider's router (which is currently bridged and used as a modem only).
I would like to stick to my L009 instead of moving back to my RB4011. My RB4011 has no WIFI but I am using the L009 with WIFI to have a second AP (I also have an hAP ax2). Of course, I could also add another hAP ax2 to my RB4011. But as I struggled with some port flipping on my RB4011 I would rather accept slower speed...
I will think about my options.
I can simply accept 600-700MBit/s as this is usually enough.
I can also disable the bridge-mode on my cable-router and take it into my home-network, which would move the NATing back to my provider's router (which is currently bridged and used as a modem only).
I would like to stick to my L009 instead of moving back to my RB4011. My RB4011 has no WIFI but I am using the L009 with WIFI to have a second AP (I also have an hAP ax2). Of course, I could also add another hAP ax2 to my RB4011. But as I struggled with some port flipping on my RB4011 I would rather accept slower speed...
Re: L009UiGS-2HaxD-IN fast enough for 1GBIT Internet?
Not sure about suitability for 1Gb broadband, but I found network jitter over wifi was ridiculously high with L009UiGS vs my old RB2011. Voice\video calls via Microsoft Teams were completely infeasible due to freezing. iperf3 benchmarking said everything was fine, throughput as expected. But latency variability was much worse. I returned unit to Amazon and reinstalled old RB2011. Now I can speak with work colleagues effectively again. Laptop NIC is AX, same as L009UiGS, so weird how old Wifi 4 unit is better.
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Re: L009UiGS-2HaxD-IN fast enough for 1GBIT Internet?
What about the hAP ax³
https://mikrotik.com/product/hap_ax3
Is this capable of routing a 1 G internett?
https://mikrotik.com/product/hap_ax3
Is this capable of routing a 1 G internett?
Re: L009UiGS-2HaxD-IN fast enough for 1GBIT Internet?
with using fasttrack it should be no problem at all
Re: L009UiGS-2HaxD-IN fast enough for 1GBIT Internet?
Because you also have a hAP ax², consider using that as the main router for NAT and firewall (and routing between VLANs). Its routing performance is almost 3x the L009. You can then configure the L009 as smart switch and access point. The L009 has hardware offload for VLAN filtering and can switch (with VLAN) at wire speed.
Re: L009UiGS-2HaxD-IN fast enough for 1GBIT Internet?
The hapax2 with 25 filter rules has about 912Mbps
The hapax3 with 25 filter rules has about 1.1Gbps so definitely a bit better but as CGGX stated the practical approach is to use the HAP as the router and the LG as an extension device.
With 25 filter rules the LG sits around 300Mbps.................
Strange it has a sfp 2.5g capable port.......
The hapax3 with 25 filter rules has about 1.1Gbps so definitely a bit better but as CGGX stated the practical approach is to use the HAP as the router and the LG as an extension device.
With 25 filter rules the LG sits around 300Mbps.................
Strange it has a sfp 2.5g capable port.......