v7.13.5 [stable] is released!

Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:40 am

RouterOS version 7.13 have been released in the "v7 stable" channel!

Before an upgrade:
1) Remember to make backup/export files before an upgrade and save them on another storage device;
2) Make sure the device will not lose power during upgrade process;
3) Device has enough free storage space for all RouterOS packages to be downloaded.

Notice - Starting from RouterOS version 7.13, significant changes have been made to the RouterOS wireless packages. This is done due to a new product development which will require more disk space for hardware drivers so we had to split it in order to maintain old products alongside the new ones. More wireless packages are yet to come.

1. When upgrading by using "check-for-updates", all versions earlier than 7.12 will display 7.12 as the latest available version. Upgrade from v7.12 to v7.13 or later versions must be done through 7.12 in order to convert wireless packages automatically. Fresh installation with Netinstall or manual package installation works in the same manner as always.

2. Drivers for older wireless and 60GHz interfaces, as well as the wireless management system CAPsMAN, are now part of a separate "wireless" package instead of being a part of the bundle package. This package can be uninstalled if not needed.

3. The existing "wifiwave2" package has been divided into distinct packages: "wifi-qcom" and "wifi-qcom-ac", and the necessary utilities for WiFi management are now included in the RouterOS bundle. RouterOS and "wifi-qcom-ac" packages alongside each other now fit into 16MB flash memory.

What's new in 7.13.5 (2024-Feb-16 19:35):

*) bridge - fixed MLAG connection after peer-link flap (introduced in v7.13);
*) bridge - fixed packet forwarding after changing HW offloaded bridge interface settings in certain cases (introduced in v7.13);
*) dns - do not close connection with DoH server after query execution (introduced in v7.13.3);
*) leds - fixed modem signal strength for RBSXTR&R11e-LTE (introduced in v7.13);
*) sms - increased SMS read timeout;
*) wifi-qcom - improved memory allocating process;
*) wifi-qcom - improved regulatory compliance for L11, L22 devices;
*) wifi-qcom - improved system stability for L11, L22 devices;

What's new in 7.13.4 (2024-Feb-07 11:59):

*) bridge - avoid per-VLAN host flushing on HW offloaded bridge (introduced in v7.13);
*) defconf - fixed firewall rule for IPv6 UDP traceroute;
*) leds - fixed modem LED indication for SXT LTE 3-7 (introduced in v7.13);
*) lte - fixed Simcom modem support in 0x9000; 0x9002, 0x9002; 0x901a and 0x901b USB compositions (introduced in v7.13);
*) ovpn - improved system stability when using HW encryption on ARM64 devices (introduced in v7.13);
*) route-filter - fixed AS path matchers when input and output chains are used;

What's new in 7.13.3 (2024-Jan-24 15:16):

*) dns - fixed DNS service crash when DoH used (introduced in v7.13.1);
*) fetch - fixed fetch when using "src-path" with SFTP mode (introduced in v7.13);
*) fetch - less verbose logging (introduced in v7.13);
*) health - show voltage when powering KNOT R through Micro-USB;
*) lte - fixed Simcom modem support in 0x9001 USB composition;
*) lte - improved SIM PIN unlock event handling for MBIM FG621-EA;
*) poe-out - fixed "power-cycle" for CRS354-48P-4S+2Q+ device (introduced in v7.13);
*) poe-out - improved PoE out reliability on routers with a single PoE out interface;
*) sms - fixed SMS inbox for FG621-EA modem (introduced in v7.13);
*) sms - fixed SMS sending from WinBox and WebFig (introduced in v7.13);
*) sms - improved system stability when working with SMS (introduced in v7.13);
*) system - properly close HTTP/S connections initiated by the router;
*) tftp - improved invalid request processing;
*) wifi-qcom - improved system stability when using FastPath (introduced in v7.13);

What's new in 7.13.2 (2024-Jan-12 11:51):

*) leds - fixed default LTE LED configuration for wAPR-2nD;
*) lte - fixed cases where FG621-EA modem could be missing signal information in "lte monitor" (introduced in v7.13);
*) routerboard - added "reset-button" support for RBwAPR-2nD device;
*) sfp - improved combo-sfp handling for CRS328-4C-20S-4S+;
*) sfp - improved link establishment for RB4011 devices;
*) vlan - fixed non-running VLAN interface after failed MTU change;
*) wifi - fixed issue with setting country profile (introduced in v7.13.1);

What's new in 7.13.1 (2024-Jan-05 15:51):

*) bridge - fixed auto "path-cost" for bonding interfaces (introduced in v7.13);
*) console - updated copyright notice;
*) dns - fixed domain name lookup resolving for internal services;
*) fetch - do not require "content-length" for HTTP (introduced in v7.13);
*) fetch - fixed DNS resolving when domain has only AAAA entries (introduced in v7.13);
*) fetch - fixed fetch when using "src-path" with HTTP/HTTPS modes (introduced in v7.13);
*) fetch - fixed IPv4 address logging (introduced in v7.13);
*) fetch - improved file download stability with HTTP/HTTPS modes;
*) leds - do not show LTE connection state/mode using RGB power LED from configless LTE modems (introduced in v7.13);
*) leds - fixed wireless type of LED triggers for routers using WiFi package (introduced in v7.13);
*) lte - fixed support for config-less modem detection (introduced in v7.13);
*) lte - fixed USB mode switch and initialization race condition for configless USB modems;
*) modem - fixed SMS removal (introduced in v7.13);
*) port - fixed support for USB/serial adapters (introduced in v7.13);
*) switch - improved 100G interface stability for 98DX4310 and 98DX8525 switches;
*) switch - minimise potential packet overflows on CRS354;
*) system - improved system stability when processing packets in FastPath (introduced in v7.13);
*) timezone - updated timezone information from "tzdata2023d" release;
*) tr069 - fixed bandwidth test;
*) wifi - use "Latvia" as default value for "country" property;
*) winbox - renamed "Wireless Table" menu to "Wifi";

What's new in 7.13 (2023-Dec-14 09:24):

!) package - convert "wireless" and "wifi" packages automatically, if upgrading from v7.12;
!) wifi - split existing "wifiwave2" package into separate packages "wifi-qcom", "wifi-qcom-ac", and include required utilities for WiFi management into bundle;
!) wireless - separate "wireless" package from bundle and build as a standalone package;
*) bridge - added automatic "path-cost" values depending on interface rate;
*) bridge - added bridge interface property "port-cost-mode" with "short" and "long" arguments;
*) bridge - fixed bogus VLAN entries from wifi when vlan-filtering is not enabled;
*) bridge - improved HW offload enable;
*) bridge - improved host flush when removing VLAN on HW offloaded bridge;
*) bth - added "VPN Prefer Relay Code" option;
*) bth - improved automatic firewall rule generation process;
*) certificate - add support for multiple DNS names for Let's Encrypt;
*) certificate - added HTTP redirect support for CRL download;
*) certificate - added support for certificates with key size 16384;
*) certificate - fixed CRL updating;
*) certificate - fixed certificate auto renewal via SCEP when certificate contains "subject-alt-name";
*) certificate - improved CRL signature verification and download error messages;
*) certificate - improved initial certificate creation using SCEP;
*) certificate - use error topic for CRL update failures;
*) cloud - improved re-connect speed after network related connection errors;
*) console - added ":grep" command;
*) console - added ":onerror" command;
*) console - added ":serialize" and ":deserialize" commands for converting values to/from JSON;
*) console - added "interface" name when printing "interface/pppoe-server" entries;
*) console - added "read" command under "file" menu;
*) console - added "where" functionality for "export" command;
*) console - added flags to "print" command with "value-list";
*) console - added interface helper for "gateway" property under "ip/route" menu;
*) console - added unset option for "ssid-regex" and "allow-signal-out-of-range" properties under "interface/wifi/access-list" menu;
*) console - clear console history when resetting configuration;
*) console - disallow setting existing "name" under "system/script" and "system/scheduler" menus;
*) console - fixed "export" boolean arguments when saving output to file using API;
*) console - fixed "interface/ethernet/switch/port-isolation" export;
*) console - fixed "on-event" argument highlighting under "system/scheduler" menu;
*) console - fixed graphic distortions in WinBox;
*) console - fixed issue where API incorrectly asks for missing arguments;
*) console - fixed printing to file using API;
*) console - ignore negative values for ":delay" command;
*) console - improved flag printing in certain menus;
*) console - improved stability when running "tool/ping" from API;
*) console - removed "route-cache" setting from "ip/settings" menu;
*) console - replace reserved characters in file and script names with underscores;
*) console - resolve "wifiwave2" directory to "wifi";
*) console - show "l2vpn-link" address family under "routing/route" menu;
*) console - use more compact login screen for empty branding;
*) defconf - expire password when reverting configuration;
*) defconf - fixed bogus wifi password on certain Audience devices;
*) defconf - fixed configuration for Audience with "wifi-qcom-ac" package;
*) defconf - fixed wireless band and channel-width selection (introduced in v7.12);
*) defconf - hide default configuration for users without "sensitive" policy;
*) defconf - improved wifi interface detection after upgrade;
*) defconf - updated configuration with new "wifi" directory;
*) defconf - use "WISP Bridge" default configuration mode for RBGrooveGA-52HPacn device;
*) defconf - use "fan-min-speed-percent=25" for CRS354-48P-4S+2Q+ device;
*) defconf - use device factory preset credentials when using CAPs mode;
*) defconf - use one SSID and enable FT when using "wifi" packages;
*) disk - fixed hang on reboot when network file systems mounted;
*) ethernet - improved packet CPU core classifier for Alpine CPUs for non IPv4/IPv6 traffic;
*) ethernet - improved system stability for L009 and hAP ax lite devices;
*) fetch - added "http-auth-scheme" parameter, allows to select HTTP basic or digest authentication;
*) fetch - added "http-content-encoding" setting;
*) fetch - added raw logging;
*) fetch - allow to receive HTTP response headers;
*) fetch - require "ftp" user policy;
*) firewall - added "nat-pmp" support;
*) firewall - added new IPv6 filter arguments "icmp-err-src-routing-header" and "icmp-headers-too-long" for "reject-with" setting;
*) firewall - do not mark all IPv6 GRE packets as invalid;
*) firewall - fixed IPv6 address-list timeout;
*) firewall - fixed altered address-list when upgrading from RouterOS v6;
*) firewall - fixed connections being tracked when tracking is disabled;
*) firewall - removed "prohibited" and "unreachable" IPv4 address-type arguments;
*) ftp - improved upload and download speeds;
*) health - dynamically add and remove invalid sensors (e.g. sfp-temperature);
*) hotspot - fixed incorrect host moving to VLAN 0 when receiving packets through bridge;
*) ike2 - fixed ike2 double reply;
*) iot - fixed incorrect LoRa ACK packet handling during downlink messaging (introduced in v7.12);
*) ipv6 - do not send out IPv6 RA deprecate message for re-used prefix;
*) isis - added IS-IS protocol support (CLI only);
*) l3hw - fixed routing for IPsec encapsulated packets;
*) leds - fixed LED indication in multi-APN setup for Chateau;
*) leds - improved LED indication during modem registration state for Chateau;
*) log - added "fetch" topic;
*) lora - added CUPs protocol support;
*) lora - fixed issue with lost LoRa configuration when rebooting the device;
*) lte - added RNDIS support for neoway N75-EA modem;
*) lte - added support for FOTA firmware upgrade from custom URL for R11eL-FG621-EA;
*) lte - disabled IMS service for Chateau 5G on A1 HR network;
*) lte - fixed rare cases where Chateau 5G in passthrough mode may stop forwarding packets;
*) lte - improved SIM slot status change notification handling for MBIM modems;
*) lte - replaced "passthrough-subnet-selection" with "passthrough-subnet-size" setting (CLI only);
*) lte - show each CA band in a new line;
*) mipsbe - improved system stability when removing USB devices;
*) mmips - properly mount and unmount USB devices;
*) modem - added option to read SMS using MBIM interface;
*) mpls - added "te-tunnel" property for VPLS monitor (CLI only);
*) mpls - fixed IPv6 RSVP-TE;
*) mpls - improved logging;
*) netinstall-cli - added more details to help messages;
*) ospf - fixed LSA Type3 advertisement for OSPFv2;
*) ospf - fixed missing OSPF interface on L2TP interface reconnect;
*) ospf - fixed missing opaque bit in opaque LSA;
*) ovpn - improved memory allocation during key-renegotiation;
*) ovpn - removed "ping-timer-rem" option from client config file;
*) package - added warning log about missing "wireless" or "wifi" package;
*) pimsm - improved elected BSR change;
*) poe-out - improved firmware upgrade stability for AF/AT controlled boards;
*) ppc - fixed RouterOS bootup (introduced in v7.12);
*) ppp - added remote-ipv6-prefix to IPv6 firewall address-list if "address-list" property is provided;
*) ppp - allow at-chat and info commands in "waiting for packets" state for modems with shared data/info channel;
*) ppp - improved IPv6 link-local address uniqueness;
*) pppoe-server - fixed connection count limit per license level;
*) profiler - improved "disk" and "supout.rif" classifiers;
*) qos-hw - added initial congestion avoidance support for 98DX224S, 98DX226S, and 98DX3236 switch chips (CLI only);
*) qsfp - added support for QSFP-to-SFP adapters;
*) qsfp - fixed supported rates for breakout cables (introduced in v7.12);
*) quickset - show DDNS name as VPN address for devices with new style serial number;
*) route-filter - improved performance;
*) sfp - added "1G-baseT" link mode for modules that supports "2.5G-baseT" mode;
*) sfp - allow 2.5G rates only in forced link mode;
*) sfp - fixed link establishment with S+DA0001 DAC cables;
*) sfp - ignore irrelevant extended compliance code for SFP modules;
*) sfp - improved SFP interface handling for 98DX224S, 98DX226S, 98DX3236, 98DX8208, and 98DX8216 switch chips;
*) sfp - improved link establishment for SFP copper modules;
*) sfp - improved link establishment with certain modules for hEX S device;
*) sfp - show 10M and 100M supported rates for RJ45 copper modules;
*) ssh - added cipher and hash function acceleration for ARM64 and x86 architectures;
*) ssh - fix error that caused large chunks of text not being pasted in their entirety into console;
*) supout - added VXLAN FDB section;
*) supout - added multiple WiFi sections;
*) switch - fixed service VLAN tagged IP multicast packets for 98DX8208, 98DX8216, 98DX8212, 98DX8332, 98DX3257, 98DX4310, 98DX8525, 98DX3255 switches;
*) system - added "rtrace" debugging tool (CLI only);
*) system - improved incoming and outgoing TCP connection performance;
*) system - improved internal process communication performance;
*) traffic-generator - improved system stability when modifying interfaces;
*) usb - added support for RTL8152 USB ethernet on ARM, ARM64 and x86;
*) vpls - improved performance when decapsulating data;
*) vrf - fixed ICMP reply lookup;
*) webfig - allow to display comments in multiline or compact modes;
*) webfig - make table headers always visible;
*) webfig - use local storage for user preferences;
*) wifi - added "flat-snoop" tool for surveying WiFi APs and stations (CLI only);
*) wifi - added "radio-mac" variable for "name-format" provisioning setting;
*) wifi - added "remove" command in "capsman/remote-cap" menu;
*) wifi - after radar detections, avoid selection of channels not permitted by the user;
*) wifi - changed CAPsMAN generated certificate common name;
*) wifi - create first interface without number when using "name-format" provisioning setting;
*) wifi - enable protected interworking ANQP responses;
*) wifi - fixed EAP authentication failures when the Session-Timout RADIUS attribute is defined;
*) wifi - fixed occasional failures to start on 20/40mhz-eC channels for 2.4GHz 802.11ax interfaces;
*) wifi - fixed overridden datapath settings on CAP when unsetting from CAPsMAN;
*) wifi - improved CAPsMAN stability during provisioning;
*) wifi - make slave APs use datapath bridge settings inherited from master by default;
*) wifi - removed "openflow-switch" setting;
*) wifi-qcom - added fast-path for received packets;
*) winbox - added "Hw. Offload" property under "IP/Firewall/Filter" menu;
*) winbox - added "Ping" button under "IP/DHCP Server/Leases" menu;
*) winbox - added "Tx bps" and "Rx bps" monitor values under "WiFi/Registration" menu;
*) winbox - added "none" argument for "Preshared Key" under "WireGuard/Peers" menu;
*) winbox - added icon to entries under "WiFi/Access List" menu;
*) winbox - added missing "qos-classifier" argument for "Hw. Caps" under "WiFi/Radios" menu;
*) winbox - added missing arguments for "MAC Format" under "Wireless/Security Profiles/RADIUS" menu;
*) winbox - allow opening entries under "WiFi/Registration" menu;
*) winbox - fixed default "Name Format" property under "WiFi/Provisioning" menu;
*) winbox - fixed minor typo under "Routing/BFD" menu;
*) winbox - improved connection speed;
*) winbox - updated "wireless" and "wifi" menus;
*) wireless - fixed "wlan1" default name for RBSXTsqG-5acD and RBLDFG-5acD;
*) wireless - fixed snooper information gathering from re-assocation requests;
*) wireless - keep configuration after manual package removal;

To upgrade, click "Check for updates" at /system package in your RouterOS configuration interface, or head to our download page: http://www.mikrotik.com/download

If you experience version related issues, then please send supout file from your router to support@mikrotik.com. File must be generated while a router is not working as suspected or after some problem has appeared on the device

Please keep this forum topic strictly related to this particular RouterOS release.

iustin · Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:14 pm

Wohoo! Before the holidays, thank you!

BWC · Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:35 pm

It is probably just me, but upgrading from 7.12 to 7.13 on AWS broke the instance again and it does not boot any longer.

I had the same issue upgrading to 7.12 and was forced to recreate the instance.

Isn't there anything I can do to just get the upgrade on AWS working properly?

--Michael

Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:48 pm

Upgraded RB5009 as main router (DHCP, VLAN, ...) also acting as capsman and AX2/AX3 via capsman coming from 7.13rc4.
So far no issues.

ToTheFull · Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:59 pm

Thanks all updated and working... hAP ax2/cAP ax

Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:09 pm

This does not seem version related, send your supout file to support, so we can check what specifics you have there.

It is probably just me, but upgrading from 7.12 to 7.13 on AWS broke the instance again and it does not boot any longer.

I had the same issue upgrading to 7.12 and was forced to recreate the instance.

Isn't there anything I can do to just get the upgrade on AWS working properly?

--Michael

petardo · Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:10 pm

Question:

Drivers for older wireless and 60GHz interfaces, as well as the wireless management system CAPsMAN, are now part of a separate "wireless" package instead of being a part of the bundle package. This package can be uninstalled if not needed.

How do we know whether a package is needed or not? (We are useing RB951, hAP AC2, hAP AC3, and cAP devices, all of them as simple Access Point - Wisp AP, Home AP)

corp9592 · Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:18 pm

I just updated hap ac2 and I have the "wireless" package and "routeros". everything is working as usual, but I wonder how am I supposed to migrate to new WiFi package? Manually?

ToTheFull · Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:20 pm

I just updated hap ac2 and I have the "wireless" package and "routeros". everything is working as usual, but I wonder how am I supposed to migrate to new WiFi package? Manually?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkBIQxi-VKs

Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:22 pm

All needed packages should be downloaded from support and download section, for each product. Now from 7.13 RouterOS current release will have all needed packages listed, you are welcome to check here:
Example for hap_ax_lite_lte6
https://mikrotik.com/product/hap_ax_lit ... -downloads

Question:
Drivers for older wireless and 60GHz interfaces, as well as the wireless management system CAPsMAN, are now part of a separate "wireless" package instead of being a part of the bundle package. This package can be uninstalled if not needed.
How do we know whether a package is needed or not? (We are useing RB951, hAP AC2, hAP AC3, and cAP devices, all of them as simple Access Point - Wisp AP, Home AP)

Jotne · Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:23 pm

Pleas post new Announcements so that it show on all places, like under scripting. PS not the first time this has been done wrong.
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nicolap · Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:30 pm

This is very confusing: on hAP ac now I have a WiFi menu, completely useless and a Wireless that is the correct one.
Why???

Jotne · Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:36 pm

@nicolap Have you read the beta and rc thread? If not read trough them.
viewtopic.php?t=201465
viewtopic.php?t=201989

dave3 · Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:40 pm

Upgraded RB750Gr3. I noticed it lost the /system clock time-zone-name setting after the upgrade; had to add it back.

Is it possible or advisable to remove the new wireless package, since the device has no wireless functionality?

Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:43 pm

This is very confusing: on hAP ac now I have a WiFi menu, completely useless and a Wireless that is the correct one.
Why???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkBIQxi ... l=MikroTik

dimacbz · Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:55 pm

RouterOS-7.13....png

bamarcant · Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:57 pm

--- *) winbox - updated "wireless" and "wifi" menus;---
Please, correct same name in wireless tab; cannot customize old_wireless tab on old devices because on relogging appear the new (wifi) one instead,and if choose the correct one (wireless) customization has not held, but default.

RafGan · Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:08 pm

RB1100dx4de reboots after few seconds, no supout.rif created, no time needed to do this.

qwertykolea · Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:08 pm

Hello,
I've just updated my hAP ac^2 to version 7.13, but I can't find where I should set up WPA3?

nicolap · Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:12 pm

@nicolap Have you read the beta and rc thread? If not read trough them.
viewtopic.php?t=201465
viewtopic.php?t=201989

Of course I already read all.
But hAP ac is only WiFi 5 so the WiFi menu is useless. So hide it!!!
And, as someone already noted, in Winbox both windows has the same name!

templeos · Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:16 pm

Hello,
I've just updated my hAP ac^2 to version 7.13, but I can't find where I should set up WPA3?

Remove wireless package and install wifi-qcom-ac-7.13-arm.npk from all_packages-arm-7.13.zip
Everything is in the documentation:https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/display/ ... ss'package

Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:18 pm

Hello,
I've just updated my hAP ac^2 to version 7.13, but I can't find where I should set up WPA3?

You did install wifi-qcom-ac package as well ? This is a manual action to be done afterwards and then you completely need to reconfigure the wifi part.

https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/display/ ... ss'package

EDIT: someone hit the button a bit faster then I did

BWC · Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:23 pm

Well, as mentioned, it's not booting any longer, so no chance to get the supout anymore.

This does not seem version related, send your supout file to support, so we can check what specifics you have there.

It is probably just me, but upgrading from 7.12 to 7.13 on AWS broke the instance again and it does not boot any longer.

I had the same issue upgrading to 7.12 and was forced to recreate the instance.

Isn't there anything I can do to just get the upgrade on AWS working properly?

--Michael

xakep7 · Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:25 pm

CCR1016 after updating to 7.13 not show lte interface anymore.
But in USB list it showing.

wireless already installed

At 7.12 all ok.

Reinis · Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:31 pm

RB1100dx4de reboots after few seconds, no supout.rif created, no time needed to do this.

Does not happen on default config of "RB1100AHx4 Dude Edition" with 7.13. Ensure that there is no netwatch or something else that is rebooting it. Try to generate supout.rif and send it to support@mikrotik.com

wvisser · Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:41 pm

DHCP served over a VLAN trunk is still a problem on x86. Rolled back to 7.11.2.

See here, and here (post 99) and SUP-134483.

herbrico · Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:46 pm

RB1100dx4de reboots after few seconds, no supout.rif created, no time needed to do this.

Same router, all working ok for me, no issue.

Guscht · Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:52 pm

Works so far:

Screenshot 2023-12-15 134327.jpg

But for clarification regarding "Wireless" and "WiFi":

Can I uninstall the old "Wireless" package on devices without WLAN-interface (like Switches), or will this break something (like CAPsMAN-management traffic or something)?
WiFi is always there, but useless?

On devices like the mAP lite, I have now a WiFi button plus a Wireless button. But nothing in the "WiFi" menu.
There is no additional driver in the MIPSBE-Extra-package. Means WiFi is always there, but useless?

Devices without the additional driver ( 'wifi-qcom-ac' or 'wifi-qcom') have to run everything WLAN-related under the old Wireless-Menu?
Means WiFi is always there, but useless?

jimmer · Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:54 pm

Have upgraded:

1 x RB3011-iUAS
2 x hAPac2's

All were on 7.12 and all are working perfectly after upgrade, havent tried swapping out the wifi packages yet, using the old wireless one for now.

merlinthemagic7 · Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:01 pm

Loaded 7.13 on a few AX2 units. Fetch from scripts is currently the only one item that stands out with errors compared to 7.12.1.

We have a script that triggers on boot and fetches a few files from our provisioning servers (Basic auth and HTTPS).
On 7.12.1 works every time.

Using 7.13 the first file is saved without issues, but we observe different errors for subsequent files:

script error: failure: Idle timeout - waiting data
script error: failure: connection timeout
script error: failure: remote disconnected while in HTTP exchange

The entire job is a single script.

Edit the delay does not fix the issue

Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:08 pm

Can I uninstall the old "Wireless" package on devices without WLAN-interface (like Switches), or will this break something (like CAPsMAN-management traffic or something)?
WiFi is always there, but useless?

On devices like the mAP lite, I have now a WiFi button plus a Wireless button. But nothing in the "WiFi" menu.
There is no additional driver in the MIPSBE-Extra-package. Means WiFi is always there, but useless?

Devices without the additional driver ( 'wifi-qcom-ac' or 'wifi-qcom') have to run everything WLAN-related under the old Wireless-Menu?
Means WiFi is always there, but useless?

To my understanding:
1- yes.
2- correct, consequence from having (wave2) wifi in base package now.
3- yes. See also 2.

Guscht · Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:13 pm

@Mikrotik, please update the Menu-Name from WiFi Menu to WiFi NOT Wireless!!!!!!!
This is totally confusing o_O

Screenshot 2023-12-15 140941.jpg

Guscht · Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:14 pm

To my understanding:
1- yes.
2- correct, consequence from having (wave2) wifi in base package now.
3- yes. See also 2.

Thanks!

Simonej · Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:18 pm

We have a script that triggers on boot and fetches a few files from our provisioning servers (Basic auth and HTTPS).

fetch - require "ftp" user policy;

rushlife · Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:20 pm

Is there any wiki for using NEW driver packages for "OLD" devices ? And if so, when I will use NEW drivers from NEW package, can I use just ONE capsman (section) ? For new and also for old devices ?

Or it is just how I thing and there will be always TWO capsmans ( if I have non EX devices also ) in my network... ?

whatever · Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:24 pm

WiFi is always there, but useless?

It's not useless, it can be used as Capsman to manage devices using new wifi driver.

DarkNate · Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:27 pm

It's not useless, it can be used as Capsman to manage devices using new wifi driver.

It's confusing, if device A doesn't have wireless chip/features, then "Capsman" should be seperate menu altogether, not "wifi" or "wireless" or "wifiwave2", capsman is just a control plane protocol.

Guscht · Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:30 pm

It's not useless, it can be used as Capsman to manage devices using new wifi driver.

Like on 1 out of 100 devices its useful and on 99 useless? Useless codestuff imho...

whatever · Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:32 pm

With wifi(wave2) capsman configuration is no longer separate from local wifi configuration. It's only confusing because it used to be different.

Etz · Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:42 pm

*) wifi - create first interface without number when using "name-format" provisioning setting;

Is there any way to restore default behaviour, where all CAP interfaces would have number appended?
This is super annoying, do I really have to downgrade to, as my only option, make it work properly again? :(
I really don't want to switch to static interfaces and overcomplicate things.

merlinthemagic7 · Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:48 pm

@Simonej

Script has that permission. It looks like it is related to compression. If we instruct the web server to "no-gzip" the download works.
Ill open a ticket when its reproducible.

Edit:
The issue occurs when the http response headers + payload (after being uncompressed) exceeds 65535 bytes.
But what is really odd is that once in awhile it goes through. SUP-137742

mantouboji · Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:50 pm

RB4011 works well

qwertykolea · Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:03 pm

Remove wireless package and install wifi-qcom-ac-7.13-arm.npk from all_packages-arm-7.13.zip
Everything is in the documentation:https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/display/ ... ss'package

Thank you.

This new 7.13 made my day.
The new driver for hap ac2 increased the maximum speed from 300 Mbps to 500 Mbps on my laptop.

Etz · Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:15 pm

*) wifi - create first interface without number when using "name-format" provisioning setting;
Is there any way to restore default behaviour, where all CAP interfaces would have number appended?
This is super annoying, do I really have to downgrade to, as my only option, make it work properly again? :(
I really don't want to switch to static interfaces and overcomplicate things.

Did not find a way to fix this, so downgraded and waiting for fixed release.

ivanfm · Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:17 pm

It is probably just me, but upgrading from 7.12 to 7.13 on AWS broke the instance again and it does not boot any longer.

I had the same issue upgrading to 7.12 and was forced to recreate the instance.

Isn't there anything I can do to just get the upgrade on AWS working properly?

--Michael

Have you checked this ? viewtopic.php?t=187597

change instance to T2, upgrade and change back to T3, worked for me before, have not tested for this 7.13 yet.

pe1chl · Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:20 pm

--- *) winbox - updated "wireless" and "wifi" menus;---
Please, correct same name in wireless tab; cannot customize old_wireless tab on old devices because on relogging appear the new (wifi) one instead,and if choose the correct one (wireless) customization has not held, but default.

True!! I reported this in rc thread but it has not been fixed. Please fix that, it is very annoying when using winbox.

ela002 · Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:25 pm

After upgrade on hap ac2 I have zero space left and I can't even make a backup. How I can save some space? In package list there is a routeros and wireless packages,

pe1chl · Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:27 pm

WiFi is always there, but useless?
It's not useless, it can be used as Capsman to manage devices using new wifi driver.

Unfortunately it is not only useless (for those that have no intention to use CapsMAN) but it also causes problems...
When you have configuration in winbox to customize windows, e.g. column layout, it is not handled correctly.
Probably the old and new wifi config windows use the same name or ID or whatever how that is handled in winbox.

pe1chl · Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:29 pm

After upgrade on hap ac2 I have zero space left and I can't even make a backup. How I can save some space? In package list there is a routeros and wireless packages,

hAP ac2 is notorious for lack of space. the best is to netinstall it and restore the backup you made BEFORE the upgrade...
You made a backup, right? It says in the first message above:

Before an upgrade:
1) Remember to make backup/export files before an upgrade and save them on another storage device;

mkx · Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:46 pm

After upgrade on hap ac2 I have zero space left and I can't even make a backup. How I can save some space? In package list there is a routeros and wireless packages,
hAP ac2 is notorious for lack of space.

And also consider the fact that wifi-qcom-ac uses around 200kB more flash space than wireless package. So if flash is running tight (and will be, believe me), then the solution might be to stick to wireless.

If one is using ARM ac device as router only (i.e. wireless is not required), then the new arrangement allows to fully uninstall wireless drivers and thus free a few MB of flash (wifi menu is still there as it contains necessary stuff to run CAPsMAN on same device ... but that doesn't require running hardware drivers).

massinia · Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:51 pm

After upgrade on hap ac2 I have zero space left and I can't even make a backup. How I can save some space? In package list there is a routeros and wireless packages,

Something else is using the space, I can also install containers and I still have free space.

hap ac2.png

biomesh · Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:51 pm

When updating the firmware on a CCR2004-16G-2S+ the "upgrade firmware" string is different than the version shown under "current firmware" once applied. It looks like there is an extra carriage return in the string - so there always seems to be an update available (even if it has already been applied).

diamuxin · Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:52 pm

Hi friends,

In my script this sequence failed:

[ ] > :put ([/tool fetch url="https://upgrade.mikrotik.com/routeros/NEWEST7.stable" as-value output=user]->"data")
7.12.1 1700221125

It should report: 7.13 and epoch date: 1702542240 approx.

pe1chl · Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:53 pm

If one is using ARM ac device as router only (i.e. wireless is not required), then the new arrangement allows to fully uninstall wireless drivers and thus free a few MB of flash (wifi menu is still there as it contains necessary stuff to run CAPsMAN on same device ... but that doesn't require running hardware drivers).

Yeah, but as I am locked to the old wireless drivers for now (until the VLAN issues in the new drivers are solved) and I have no intention to use CAPsMAN on that device, I still would prefer to be able to remove the new WiFi package... and keep routeros and wireless on that space-cramped device.

pe1chl · Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:56 pm

7.12.1 1700221125[/code]

It should report: 7.13 and epoch date

Probably a good thing. It prevents those running auto-upgrade scripts from upgrading in the first couple of hours after release.
The correct version will probably be returned a little later, when there has been no mayhem in this topic.

msilcher · Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:07 pm

Working fine so far on hAP ax2/hAP ac2.

Can we get an updated Zerotier package pleeeeeeeeeeease?

rajo · Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:13 pm

It is probably just me, but upgrading from 7.12 to 7.13 on AWS broke the instance again and it does not boot any longer.

I had the same issue upgrading to 7.12 and was forced to recreate the instance.

Isn't there anything I can do to just get the upgrade on AWS working properly?

--Michael

This does not seem version related, send your supout file to support, so we can check what specifics you have there.

It is probably just me, but upgrading from 7.12 to 7.13 on AWS broke the instance again and it does not boot any longer.

I had the same issue upgrading to 7.12 and was forced to recreate the instance.

Isn't there anything I can do to just get the upgrade on AWS working properly?

--Michael

Some additional information relevant to this issue. It actually has nothing to do with upgrading. When I first experienced the same issue I misidentified it as related to licensing. Here is what I now know:

1. Only CHR is affected
2. It occurs when the CHR is rebooted after some extended period of time (weeks maybe?)

#2 is why it is mistaken as an upgrade problem, because you generally aren't going to reboot your router until such time as you need to perform maintenance.

Like BWC, I was unable to obtain debugging info -- especially since Google Compute Engine (GCE) (I suspect the same for AWS) does not output serial console activity during instance disk booting. I probably would have to try on an in-house host to be able to see what's actually happening when it fails. However, GCE (and I believe also AWS) runs on KVM and we use Hyper-V internally; therefore, it's debatable whether I could reproduce the issue in-house. It I get time in the new year (or I'm really bored over the holidays, I might setup an instance to test it out; although results could take weeks or months to achieve. Someone who runs Proxmox in-house would be a better candidate to attempt to reproduce the issue.

In the meantime, I reverted to 6.49.x, because I got tired of having to rebuild the router and it turned out that the automated snapshots also ended up with whatever the corruption is and couldn't be booted.

Hope this info help set MikroTik/others on the right direction to identifying the root cause of this issue.

merlinthemagic7 · Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:22 pm

@rajo The issue on AWS likely relates to T3 instances. The Hypervisor is different from T2 (works).

viewtopic.php?p=1027349#p1027349

BWC · Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:34 pm

Thanks a bunch, this is crazy, I'll give it a try.

@rajo The issue on AWS likely relates to T3 instances. The Hypervisor is different from T2 (works).

viewtopic.php?p=1027349#p1027349

mozerd · Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:34 pm

This AM i upgraded my CCR1009 from version 7.12.1 to version 7.13 now getting the following error when running a script

Download from https://view.sentinel.turris.cz/greylis ... latest.csv to RAM FAILED: Fetch failed with status 206

The same script was working fine under 7.12.1 and earlier versions

following is script

{
/ip firewall address-list
:local update do={
 :put "Starting import of address-list: $listname"
 :if ($nolog = null) do={:log warning "Starting import of address-list: $listname"}

 :local maxretry 3
 :local retrywaitingtime 120s
 :local retryflag true
 :for retry from=1 to=$maxretry step=1 do={
  :if (retryflag) do={ :set $retryflag false; :set $sounter 0
  :if (retry > 1) do={
   :put "Source file changed. Retrying after a $retrywaitingtime wait..."
   :if ($nolog = null) do={:log warning "Source file changed. Retring after a $retrywaitingtime wait..."}
   :delay $retrywaitingtime  }
  
 :local filesize ([/tool fetch url=$url keep-result=no as-value]->"total")
 :local start 0
 :local maxsize 64000;	        # reqeusted chunk size
 :local end ($maxsize - 1);	# because start is zero the maxsize has to be reduced by one
 :local partnumber	 ($filesize / ($maxsize / 1024)); # how many chunk are maxsize
 :local remainder	 ($filesize % ($maxsize / 1024)); # the last partly chunk 
 :if ($remainder > 0)    do={ :set $partnumber ($partnumber + 1) }; # total number of chunks
 :if ($heirule != null) do={:put "Using as extra filtering: $heirule"} else={:set $heirule "."}
 # remove the current list completely if "erase" is not present (default setting)
  :if ($noerase = null) do={  
   :if ($timeout = null) do={:set $timeout 00:00:00; :do {:foreach i in=[/ip firewall address-list find list=$listname] do={/ip firewall address-list set list=("backup".$listname) $i }} on-error={} } else={
   :do {:foreach i in=[/ip firewall address-list find list=$listname dynamic] do={/ip firewall address-list set list=("backup".$listname) $i }} on-error={} };                
   :put ("Conditional deleting all".$dynamic." entries in address-list: $listname")
   :if ($nolog = null) do={:log warning ("Conditional deleting all".$dynamic." entries in address-list: $listname")}
  } else={:put "Entries not conditional deleted in address-list: $listname"}; # ENDIF ERASE
 :for x from=1 to=$partnumber step=1 do={
   # get filesize to be compared to the orignal one and if changed then retry
   :local comparesize ([/tool fetch url=$url keep-result=no as-value]->"total")
   
#:set $comparesize 5 

   # fetching the chunks from the webserver when the size of the source file has not changed
   # empty array when the source file changed. No processing is done till the next complete retry
   :if ($comparesize = $filesize) do={:set $data ([:tool fetch url=$url http-header-field="Range: bytes=$start-$end" output=user as-value]->"data")} else={:set $data [:toarray ""]; :set $retryflag true}
     #:if ($ownposix = null) do={
  # determining the used delimiter in the list if not provided in the config
   # this only run once and so the impact on the import time is low
    :local ipv4Posix	  "^[0-9]{1,3}\\.[0-9]{1,3}\\.[0-9]{1,3}\\.[0-9]{1,3}"
    :local ipv4rangePosix "^[0-9]{1,3}\\.[0-9]{1,3}\\.[0-9]{1,3}\\.[0-9]{1,3}/[0-9]{1,2}"
    :local domainPosix	  "^.+\\.[a-z.]{2,7}"
    :local sdata $data;     
    :while ([:len $sdata]!=0 && $delimiter = null) do={ # The check on length of $sdata is for if no delimiter is found.
       	:local sline [:pick $sdata 0 [:find $sdata "\n"]]; :local slen [:len $sline];
       	# set posix depending of type of data used in the list
       	:if ($sline ~ $ipv4Posix)	do={:set $posix $ipv4Posix;	 :set $iden "List identified as a IPv4 list"}
       	:if ($sline ~ $ipv4rangePosix)	do={:set $posix $ipv4rangePosix; :set $iden "List identified as a IPv4 with ranges list"}
       	:if ($sline ~ $domainPosix)	do={:set $posix $domainPosix;	 :set $iden "List identified as a domain list"}
       	:if ($sline ~ $posix) do={:put $iden}
      	:if ($sline ~ $posix) do={ # only explore the line if there is match at the start of the line.
	 :do {:if ([:pick $sline 0 ($slen-$send)] ~ ($posix."\$") || $send > $slen) do={
	        :set $delimiter [:pick $sline ($slen-$send) ($slen-($send-1))]; :set $result true} else={:set $send ($send+1)}
	     } while (!$result);
	}; #IF posix
	:set $sdata [:pick $sdata ([:find $sdata "\n"]+1) [:len $sdata]];
	:if ([:len $delimiter] = 0) do={ :set $delimiter "\n" }; # when empty use NewLine 20220529
	:if ($delimiter != null) do={:local sdata [:toarray ""]} ; #Clear array sdata and it is not needed anymore and triggering so the While to end
    }; #WHILE END $sdata
    :local sdata [:toarray ""] 
   #} else={:put "User defind Posix: $ownposix"; :set $posix $ownposix } ; # ENDIF ownposix = null 
   :if ($delimiter = "\n") do={ :set $delimiterShow "New Line" }  else={ :set $delimterShow $delimiter }; #20220529
   :if ($posix = null && $delimiter != null) do={:set $posix "."; :put "Using config-line defined delimiter: \"$delimiterShow\""}; # delimter provided by config line
   :if (!retryflag) do={:put "Reading Part: $x $start - $end"}   
   :if ($timeout = null) do={:local timeout 00:00:00}; # if no timeout is defined make it a static entry.    
   # Only remove the first line only if you are not at the start of list
   
   :if ($start > 0) do={:set $data [:pick $data ([:find $data "\n"]+1) [:len $data]]}
     :while ([:len $data]!=0) do={
       :local line [:pick $data 0 [:find $data "\n"]]; # create only once and checked twice as local variable
       :if ( $line ~ $posix && $line~heirule) do={    
        :do {add list=$listname address=[:pick $data 0 [:find $data $delimiter]] comment=$comment timeout=$timeout; :set $counter ($counter + 1)} on-error={}; # on error avoids any panics        
       }; # if IP address && extra filter if present
      :set $data [:pick $data ([:find $data "\n"]+1) [:len $data]]; # removes the just added IP from the data array
      # Cut of the end of the chunks by removing the last lines...very dirty but it works
      :if ([:len $data] < 256) do={:set $data [:toarray ""]}    
     }; # while

  :set $start (($start-512) + $maxsize); # shifts the subquential start back by 512  
  :set $end (($end-512) + $maxsize); # shift the subquential ends back by 512 to keep the 
  }; # if retryflag
 }; #do for x
 
}; # for retry
 :if ($counter < 1) do={:set $resultline "Import was NOT successfull! Check if the list $listname is still being maintained."} else={:set $resultline "Completed reading $counter items into address-list $listname." } 
 :put $resultline
 :if ($nolog = null) do={:log warning $resultline }
 :if ($counter > 0) do={:do {/ip firewall address-list remove [find where list=("backup".$listname)]} on-error={} } else={
 :do {:foreach i in=[/ip firewall address-list find list=("backup".$listname)] do={/ip firewall address-list set list=$listname $i }} on-error={}
 :put "Restoring backup list: $listname" 
 :if ($nolog = null) do={:log warning "Restoring backup list: $listname"}
 }; # if counter restore on failure and remove on success
}; # do
$update url=https://view.sentinel.turris.cz/greylist-data/greylist-latest.csv listname=turris delimiter=, timeout=1d
}

sapin069 · Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:37 pm

Hello, I have an issue, How to Upgrade or downgrade to or from Wave2 within 7.13, If a routeur was on wifi5 when upgraded is there a way to upgrade to wave2 within 7.13 or donngrade to Wifi5

Thank you

regards,

rajo · Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:42 pm

@rajo The issue on AWS likely relates to T3 instances. The Hypervisor is different from T2 (works).

viewtopic.php?p=1027349#p1027349

As I stated, I experienced the same issue on GCE, which has nothing to do with AWS. I provided the info to help with identifying the actual cause of the issue, if anyone is actually interested in investigating and resolving it.

diamuxin · Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:43 pm

This AM i upgraded my CCR1009 from version 7.12.1 to version 7.13 now getting the following error when running a script

Download from https://view.sentinel.turris.cz/greylis ... latest.csv to RAM FAILED: Fetch failed with status 206

The same script was working fine under 7.12.1 and earlier versions

Same problem with other scripts:

error ex.
Download from http://::ffff:192.168.8.1/api/webserver/SesTokInfo (::ffff:192.168.8.1) to RAM FAILED: Host is unreachable

versions prior to 7.12.1 there were no problems

DeGlucker · Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:00 pm

WiFi on x86 is still broken !!!
Are you going to fix this issue ???
I don't understand what's going on. Why impossible to solve this problem throughout seven ROS releases !?!?!?

usx · Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:04 pm

Do I understand it correctly that the WiFi menu/integration is optional?

To go into extremes, I have an Audience and a mAP 2n in my network. I configure the access lists via a Python script which connects via SSH and issues all the commands. Currently all devices are therefore configured via `/interface wireless access-list` commands.

If I were to enable the WiFi menu in the Audience by removing the wireless package and installing the Qualcomm one, I would need to issue different commands to configure that Audience AP with that script, is that correct?

Since I currently do not want to do that change in the script, if I upgrade to 7.13 on the Audience, can I still continue using `/interface wireless access-list` and everything else like before, as long as I don't replace the wireless package with the Qualcomm one?

Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:10 pm

If I were to enable the WiFi menu in the Audience by removing the wireless package and installing the Qualcomm one, I would need to issue different commands to configure that Audience AP with that script, is that correct?

You would have to do this as well if you were to install the wifiwave2 package under 7.12.
Or on AC3 when installing that same wifiwave2 package.
A bit logical. New features, new menu structure.

Since I currently do not want to do that change in the script, if I upgrade to 7.13 on the Audience, can I still continue using `/interface wireless access-list` and everything else like before, as long as I don't replace the wireless package with the Qualcomm one?

Yes, that should be the case.

usx · Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:39 pm

Upgraded without problems:

- RBmAP2n ("mAP 2n") x2
- RBD25G-5HPacQD2HPnD ("Audience")
- 2011UiAS-2HnD
- hAP RB951Ui-2nD ("hAP")
- RB4011iGS
- hEX 750G r3 ("hEX")

nemoforum · Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:54 pm

I'm observing PoE issue with hAP ax2 and SXT LTE6 kit: when ether1 on hAP ax2 is configured with PoE Out = "auto on", PoE seems to be reset (during LTE modem init ?) and SXT LTE6 kit is rebooted. This continues in a loop. SXT LTE6 kit could boot on 6 or 7 iterations successfully.
Setting ether1 on hAP ax2 with PoE Out = "forced on" fixes the issue.
It worked fine with PoE Out = "auto on" on firmwares before 7.13 (especially on 7.12 RC4).
Ether1 of SXT LTE6 kit is connected to Ether1 of hAP ax2, hAP ax2 is powered via stock power adapter.

BWC · Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:08 pm

I created a new t3.small instance, deployed 6.44 and updated to 6.49.11 and 7.12.1 after that without issues.
Then I changed instance type to t2.small, updated to 7.13 and changed back to t3.small.

All in all a bit awkward but good to know that there is a way.

Thanks a bunch, this is crazy, I'll give it a try.

@rajo The issue on AWS likely relates to T3 instances. The Hypervisor is different from T2 (works).

viewtopic.php?p=1027349#p1027349

merlinthemagic7 · Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:30 pm

@BWC yup the T3 <=> T2 instance change works.

Just dont deploy in regions that dont have any Haswell / Broadwell instances... e.g. eu-south-2

@rajo
We deploy cross platform as well, GCP does not have this issue if you roll your own image that starts out as a V7 instance.

valnik · Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:41 pm

Hi, capsman v2 is showing "VLAN-ID CONFIGURED, BUT INTERFACE DOES NOT SUPPORT ASSIGNING VLANS" /cap client is HAP AC2 with wifi-qcom-ac drivers/. Does this has solution or i have some bad config?

Thx.

whatever · Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:48 pm

Bad config. Wifi-qcom-ac does not support vlan tagging, read the manual.

merlinthemagic7 · Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:49 pm

@valnic

802.11n/ac interfaces do not support this type of VLAN tagging under the wifiwave2 package, but they can be configured as VLAN access ports in bridge settings.

https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/pages/vi ... properties

onnoossendrijver · Fri Dec 15, 2023 8:28 pm

I had to disable/enable the VLAN interface underneath the PPPoE interface to make the PPPoE client work on my RB5009. Am I the only one having this problem?

jvanhambelgium · Fri Dec 15, 2023 8:28 pm

Upgraded without issues :

RB5009UG+S+
RB3011UiAS

fibracapi · Fri Dec 15, 2023 9:03 pm

Transferred the 2.4ghz network from capsman to the new 7.13 driver with RB3011 and 2 AP hac ac2. Everything seems to be working correctly.

/interface wifi channel
add band=2ghz-n disabled=no frequency=2412 name="Canales 2,4GHz" width=20/40mhz
/interface wifi datapath
add bridge=HOME disabled=no name=HOME
add bridge=bridge-VLANs disabled=no name=CRISWIFI vlan-id=28
add bridge=bridge-VLANs disabled=no name=DANWIFI vlan-id=24
add bridge=bridge-VLANs disabled=no name=GUEST vlan-id=11
add bridge=bridge-VLANs disabled=no name=IFI-IoT vlan-id=12
/interface wifi security
add authentication-types=wpa2-psk,wpa3-psk disabled=no encryption="" name=WIFI-HOME passphrase=*+password*
add authentication-types=wpa2-psk,wpa3-psk disabled=no encryption="" name=DANWIFI passphrase=++password+
add authentication-types=wpa2-psk,wpa3-psk disabled=no encryption="" name=CRISWIFI passphrase=-+password-
add authentication-types=wpa2-psk,wpa3-psk disabled=no encryption="" name=GUEST passphrase=+password**
add authentication-types=wpa2-psk,wpa3-psk disabled=no encryption="" name=WIFI-IoT passphrase=+password
/interface wifi configuration
add channel="Canales 2,4GHz" datapath=HOME disabled=no mode=ap name=HOME-DYC security=WIFI-HOME ssid="DAN y CRIS"
add channel="Canales 2,4GHz" datapath=DANWIFI disabled=no mode=ap name=DANWIFI security=DANWIFI ssid="WiFi de DAN"
add channel="Canales 2,4GHz" datapath=CRISWIFI disabled=no mode=ap name=CRISWIFI security=CRISWIFI ssid="WiFi de CRIS"
add channel="Canales 2,4GHz" datapath=IFI-IoT disabled=no mode=ap name="WiFi - IoT" security=WIFI-IoT ssid="WiFi - IoT"
add channel="Canales 2,4GHz" datapath=GUEST disabled=no mode=ap name=GUEST security=GUEST ssid="WiFi GUEST"
/interface wifi access-list
add action=accept allow-signal-out-of-range=5s disabled=no interface=any signal-range=-83..120 ssid-regexp=""
add action=reject allow-signal-out-of-range=5s disabled=no interface=any ssid-regexp=""
/interface wifi capsman
set enabled=yes interfaces=all package-path="" require-peer-certificate=no upgrade-policy=none
/interface wifi provisioning
add action=create-dynamic-enabled disabled=no master-configuration=HOME-DYC radio-mac=MIMACADDRESS slave-configurations=\
    "DANWIFI,CRISWIFI,WiFi - IoT,GUEST"

morphema · Fri Dec 15, 2023 9:05 pm

Is there going to be a tutorial for Audiences setup using wifiwave2?

Amm0 · Fri Dec 15, 2023 9:30 pm

*) system - added "rtrace" debugging tool (CLI only);

There are no docs on /system/rtrace. Is its output format the same as linux `strace`, or is there some "reader" tool for it?

mkx · Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:11 pm

Is there going to be a tutorial for Audiences setup using wifiwave2?

What's wrong with this manual?

Matta · Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:51 pm

Is it possible to downgrade LHG XL52 ac from 7.13. to 6.49.11 ?

mkx · Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:56 pm

It's possible to downgrade as low as factory version. This depends on manufacturing date of a particular device.

Matta · Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:21 pm

Apparently I'm doing something wrong. Tried with downgrade option but no success.

whatever · Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:27 pm

Did you follow the steps from https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/display/ ... g+RouterOS ?

mkx · Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:30 pm

You have to upload npk files to device and then hit the downgrade button. When ROS sees npk file, it tries to install it at reboot ... if it's system package and the version is higher than currently running one (or if it's additional package with version same as running one). But won't install it if version is lower than current one ... unless you hit the downgrade button. But hitting downgrade button will not download older version for you.

Matta · Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:40 pm

I've uploaded routeros-arm-6.49.11.npk, hit downgrade button, LHG reboots with 7.13 version

JohnTRIVOLTA · Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:05 am

I've uploaded routeros-arm-6.49.11.npk, hit downgrade button, LHG reboots with 7.13 version

If you have another packet except the main uninstall him first. Then make downgrade procedure!

morphema · Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:10 am

What's wrong with this manual?

Well, probably nothing wrong from the manual perspective. I'm looking for step-by-step guide for both modes of particular device, which has a bit tricky default config even with old drivers. I'm eager to try new driver but I don't have too much resources for tinkering and guessing the best configuration. There probably should be optimal configs the team used for testing purposes. I see no harm to share them publicly. How do you feel, does it make sense?

Matta · Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:14 am

I've uploaded routeros-arm-6.49.11.npk, hit downgrade button, LHG reboots with 7.13 version
If you have another packet except the main uninstall him first. Then make downgrade procedure!

Thanks m8, that did the trick !

Matta · Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:40 am

By the way, is there likely benefit for PtP link between 2 LHG XL 52ac, to go from 6.49.11 to 7.13, considering wifiwave 2 is available now ?

msatter · Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:01 am

This AM i upgraded my CCR1009 from version 7.12.1 to version 7.13 now getting the following error when running a script

Download from https://view.sentinel.turris.cz/greylis ... latest.csv to RAM FAILED: Fetch failed with status 206

The same script was working fine under 7.12.1 and earlier versions

snip

It can be that they don't support chunking on the moment. However the script can be changed now the file can be downloaded in one go and the then read from disk in chunks of 32KB. Two chunks is 64KB or just double the loops to import the complete file.

memelchenkov · Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:12 am

Now empty "WiFi" tab in WinBox. And working WiFi tab copied to "Wireless".

infabo · Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:25 am

Upgraded D53G-5HacD2HnD successfully. Then I uninstalled wireless package und installed wifi-qcom-ac. LOL, I was astonished as there was not even a default configuration in place for the wifi. Just two disabled interfaces. ROFL, and I had the naive hope that MT transforms my legacy wireless config to the new wifi config. But wasnt that hard to setup manually. I even tried Quick setup out of curiosity to setup some defaults - but that failed hard as a rock. QS created two new interfaces for guest wifi (wlan3/wlan4) but failed to configure wlan1/wlan2. They remained inactive without any configuration. Well played, MT. I was lucky and QS did not destroy anything else according to a export-diff.

One suggestion though: wifi log messages still use the "wireless" prefix. MT should maybe align that so it says wifi there too.

jclive · Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:30 am

Upgraded a green field RB4011iGS+5HacQ2HnD from 7.12.1. I simply do not have any wireless or for that matter wifi topic logs even with debug enabled.. Which I really need as the 5GHz interface and or config is not working.

Tnx!

truefriendcz · Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:50 am

I am asking the representatives of Mikrotik to define for me what they mean by the term "stable".
I have a Mikrotik remotely halfway around the world. Once I had to go to a site and install via NetInstall when there was a transition from version 6.x to version 7.x. Now it hasn't even gotten to the 20% newer major next version (8.x) and again the device won't boot after upgrading from 7.12 to 7.13 and I'll have to fly halfway around the world again to do the Netinstall in person and who knows if it will reinstall.

Paradoxically, this is an Enterprise environment with a professional range of routers, and I cannot afford downtime for entire companies. Older configurations for LTS versions no longer work, where I am told that it is necessary to upgrade to version 7.x, where the settings and scripts work, but security is not ensured even to the extent that the device does not boot at all after the version update.

I don't know what the problem is anymore. Maybe I'm misunderstanding how the company Mikrtoik interprets the term "stable" version, so I would like it if the engineers from Mikrotik would explain to me how they understand this term. Thank you
And then I want to ask what are the 5 levels of RouterOS test versions for, if this happens in the production version? What is the goal of the test versions?

ksteink · Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:06 am

I have updated my RB5009 and my CRS326-24G and my scripts for Telegram are not working as expected. I am not getting any message more than the download message with the Chat ID.

I will be rolling back to version 7.12 if this not going to be fixed quickly by Mikrotik

ksteink · Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:31 am

Another issue: I tried to downgrade to version 7.12.1 and also doesn't work!! I just uploaded the RouterOS 7.12.1 ARM64 into the /files of my RB5009 and went to System --> Packages --> Downgrade and the router refuses to downgrade. Reboots and nothing happens!.

I am so annoyed! and first time I have this kind of behavior. I am getting now messages every min in Telegram with non--sensical messages.

sirca · Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:01 am

Hi!
I have upgraded from 7.12.1 to 7.13:
CRS326-24G-2S+ X2
CRS317-1G-16S+
CRS305-1G-4S+
CHR (esxi 6.5.0U3)
No issues

BluThunder · Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:06 am

I have an issue with 7.13 that 7.12.1 didn't have (nor before) - I have a bunch of 1gb SFP's in a CRS328-4C-20S-4S+ switch. None of them will link up auto negotiation at full duplex (they are all fiber). I can hard code both sides of a link and it works full duplex, but with auto negotiation duplex is never picked up and you end up with hundreds of "sfpxx excessive or late collision, link duplex match?" errors and most paths not even passing traffic. Downgrade to 7.12 and it auto negotiates correctly. My 10GB SFP+'s are auto negotiating, only 1GB SFP modules are failing to.

kravemir · Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:11 am

I have a Mikrotik remotely halfway around the world. ... and I'll have to fly halfway around the world again to do the Netinstall in person and who knows if it will reinstall.

Who maintains physical hardware halfway around the world - as a sole person / without closer person to perform actions needing aphysical access?

Like, you blame MikroTik, but you've chosen a low-cost platform and at the same time you're going low-cost on people, that you don't even have people nearby the devices you maintain.

kalamaja · Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:37 am

Paradoxically, this is an Enterprise environment with a professional range of routers, and I cannot afford downtime for entire companies.

MikroTik doesn’t do your business, you do. Even in 10person company no sane person installs version less than 24h old into production. Person who decided that upgrading distant system without test env or local support is a risk for the business.

skyhawk · Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:50 am

Having package management problems manually updating a hAP ax2 from 7.11.2 -> 7.13

Device has routeros-7.11.2 and wifiwave2-7.11.2 packages installed presently. I dropped routeros-7.13-arm64.npk and wifi-qcom-7.13-arm64.npk onto the device and rebooted, and it came back up still on 7.11.2 with the following error log:

missing package wifiwave2

Do I need to manually update to 7.12 before updating to 7.13?

Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:53 am

Use normal upgrade procedure.
And yes, you first need to be on 7.12 or 7.12.1 before you can move to 7.13.

Is in the release notes. You may want to read that part first.

npero · Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:54 am

I want to try wifi package outdoor on LHG5 ac. I already try on indoor devices I missing two feature to try outdoor.
First possibility to scan complete list of frequencies not just selected country, because outdoor has lots of devices and some of then, some is maybe wrong word here :) lots of then not comply country regulation or have licenses and want to avoid that frequencies. Sometime they are were close or overlapping some or allowed frequencies.
Second is possible to select some kind of licensed mode or superchannel mode to can select custom frequencies other manufactured allowed that.
If anyone have idea how can to do that ? Thanks.

skyhawk · Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:00 am

Use normal upgrade procedure.
And yes, you first need to be on 7.12 or 7.12.1 before you can move to 7.13.

Is in the release notes. You may want to read that part first.

To quote the release notes:

1. When upgrading by using "check-for-updates", all versions earlier than 7.12 will display 7.12 as the latest available version. Upgrade from v7.12 to v7.13 or later versions must be done through 7.12 in order to convert wireless packages automatically. Fresh installation with Netinstall or manual package installation works in the same manner as always.

That reads to me as manual package installation should just work without any special attention.

If manual installation needs to be stepped to 7.12 before stepping beyond that's fine, but the release notes should indicate as such.

Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:08 am

It says you need to be at 7.12 first.
It does not say how.

Upgrade from v7.12 to v7.13 or later versions must be done through 7.12 in order to convert wireless packages automatically.

cyrq · Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:33 am

After upgrading my hAP ax^3 to ROS 7.13 everything works fine, but the front WPS button which previously was solid blue, now blinks in red.
Created a ticket (SUP-137799).

Matta · Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:47 am

Another issue: I tried to downgrade to version 7.12.1 and also doesn't work!! I just uploaded the RouterOS 7.12.1 ARM64 into the /files of my RB5009 and went to System --> Packages --> Downgrade and the router refuses to downgrade. Reboots and nothing happens!.

I am so annoyed! and first time I have this kind of behavior. I am getting now messages every min in Telegram with non--sensical messages.

"If you have another packet except the main uninstall him first. Then make downgrade procedure! "
Thanks goes @JohnTRIVOLTA

Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:54 am

After upgrading my hAP ax^3 to ROS 7.13 everything works fine, but the front WPS button which previously was solid blue, now blinks in red.
Created a ticket (SUP-137799).

No problem here. Normal blue (had to open the closed cabinet to verify

)

dcavni · Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:10 am

By the way, is there likely benefit for PtP link between 2 LHG XL 52ac, to go from 6.49.11 to 7.13, considering wifiwave 2 is available now ?

Tried LHG52 with new drivers and it goes up to 600 Mbps, but that was between LHG52 and a mobile phone. I must buy something to try station bridge mode.

cyrq · Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:41 am

After upgrading my hAP ax^3 to ROS 7.13 everything works fine, but the front WPS button which previously was solid blue, now blinks in red.
Created a ticket (SUP-137799).
No problem here. Normal blue (had to open the closed cabinet to verify :lol: )

Thanks for checking.
Kinda strange since I have WPS completely disabled and as far as I know, this LED can be controlled only via : system leds settings set all-leds-off=immediate

sjmudd · Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:26 am

I have had a mixed reaction to 7.13.

Good:
- several CRS125-24G-1S-2HnD upgraded to 7.13 without incident. I'm not confident on doing this on the one that runs capsman yet.
- map mini upgraded fine to 7.13 which was nice considering how small it is.
- RB5009UG+S+ seemed to upgrade fine to 7.13
- Hex PoE (RB960PGS) upgraded fine to 7.13

Bad:
- cap ac ( RBcAPGi-5acD2nD) had zerotier installed and so did not have enough space to upgrade to 7.13, so rebooted itself back to 7.12.1. I didn't need zerotier here so removed the package, tried again and the upgrade went fine.
- hap ac2 just failed completely. I had to netinstall it and put the configuration back, it's still running 7.12.1 as not sure that upgrading again will not do the same thing. (I see others were successful so maybe it is my configuration that's causing the issue.)

A question. I have config collector configured to run export on each router I own, but that does not retain the user credentials or certificates so does not provide a full configuration. What's the correct way to pull the COMPLETE config of a router, and then to restore the COMPLETE config back from one that has for example the default configuration setup? I may have missed this so please point me at the docs and also in the notes you provide at the top of the posts about new releases provide links to the docs.
- ideally I'd like a way to restore using netinstall providing the required ROS version and config, or
- have a way to restore the config and boot back to it in a simple operation.

Netinstall (I run on linux so could only use the netinstall-cli) looks good but only works (I think) if you have the netinstall-cli configured on the same layer 2 network where the router is running. At least in my network that's not possible. So having documentation on how to use netinstall if possible (with some helper functionality / firewall port forwarding etc) would be good and allow me to use this from any router when the netinstall-cli is in a different network. That would avoid me unplugging the "broken router" and moving it somehwere where I can do the netinstall and then putting it back in its intended location.

Jotne · Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:37 am

I am asking the representatives of Mikrotik to define for me what they mean by the term "stable".
I have a Mikrotik remotely halfway around the world.

1. What is stable as been answered many times here in the forum.
2. Upgrading a production system just as it has released is just asking for trouble. Wait at leas a week and read all forum threads about it.
3. You should not upgrade remote system without have a 100% equal system (hardware/software) local to test on. If that goes ok, you may test remote system.

So 100% your fault if some goes wrong.

PS this is the same for Cisco and other brand as well.

sjmudd · Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:59 am

I'd tend to agree about running any new "stable" version: If this is for production usage don't try it where you care about failure scenarios.

I work in a large database environment where generally people are very conservative, but I have a setup where I often do test new versions and run bleeding edge even in production. I tend to do testing/evaluation of new versions where I can handle the failure and revert or workaround the problem easily. That's good for the vendor as I can provide upstream feedback about issues they have not seen and wait for or get a custom fix if that's needed. Doing this on more important systems could cause more pain so is often best done later. In the meantime you're getting familiar with the new functionality/features/performance.

That does not mean of course that you won't find bugs. All vendors try to test and avoid causing their customers issues but in the end they don't have the resources to test OUR setups so things will slip through.

What's most important is having an easy way back and that includes having a "good backup" and a "good restore procedure". And like any any of these things you MUST test the "restore procedure". If it doesn't work the backup is not worth anything .... I know my amateur/home setup is not as good in this respect as it could be hence the comment for how to do it better earlier, but for people running this as a business even on routers backups/restores are critical.

whatever · Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:02 pm

Updated
3x hap ac²
1x RB4011+RM
all coming from ROS 6.49.10 long-term via 7.12.1 to 7.13 successfully. I replaced the wireless package with wifi-qcom-ac on all hap ac²s afterwards.
1x hap ax² update was also fine, but it obviously was on ROS 7 already.

Finally made the move to ROS 7 everywhere, so I can now enjoy all the shiny new features, and so far it's looking great. Had to disable multicast package on RB4011 before being able to upgrade to ROS 7, but apart from some unused default objects popping up in OSPF configuration, the automated config migration was fine.

Wifi experience was great as soon as I figured out the security connect-priority=0/1 option and managed to work around the VLAN limitation.
Now I'm just hoping that VLAN tagging will find its way back into wifi-qcom-ac driver to restore the flexibility it provides.

Smoerrebroed · Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:09 pm

No issues upgrading for me among CRS328, RB5009, cAP ac, wAP ac, cAP ax, hAP ax²/ax³ - CAPsMAN works like a charm now in a homgeneous fashion.

A couple things I noticed though:

It's not possible to set 2 GHz band to ax AND n, so in a mixed (ac and ax) setup, you either need to allow all bands or define separate channels.
You need to provide all upgrade packages for download if CAPsMAN automatic upgrade is supposed to work. Otherwise not even the base package gets upgraded.
With CAPsMAN on 7.13 and CAP on 7.12.1, it wasn't possible to set 2472 MHz as a channel frequency (error). After bringing CAP to 7.13 the error disappeared.

All in all: Nice work, MikroTik! I'm happy and ready for Xmas. :-) Enjoy the holidays!

paxon · Sat Dec 16, 2023 1:17 pm

Updated cAP ac, Hap ac, and hap AX^3 (C53UiG+5HPaxD2HPaxD)
Seems to be working fine apart from hap AX^3
Upgraded it to 7.13 then installed container package, after that tried to install wireless package ( to have capsman).
After reboot wireless is in disabled state, when i try to enable it wifi_qcom package gets disabled not sure why.

Screenshot 2023-12-16 at 12.25.06.png

Afrer enabling wireless and reboot, WiFi is not accessible and i have both WiFi and Wireless :

Screenshot 2023-12-16 at 13.23.06.png

mkx · Sat Dec 16, 2023 1:38 pm

... installed wifi-qcom-ac. LOL, I was astonished as there was not even a default configuration in place for the wifi.

This is how always has been for packages installed seoarately. Default config is only applied when config is reset to factory default config.

But you can always see default config by executing /system/default-configuration/print inside terminal window (IIRC you need admin privileges).

Chaosphere64 · Sat Dec 16, 2023 1:39 pm

I noticed this error after upgrading my hAP ax3 from 7.12:

SCR-20231216-lcle.png

Similar did not happen on my RB5009UPr+S+IN.

Ca6ko · Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:34 pm

Hap ac2 got a cyclic reboot after upgrading from 7.12 to 7.13. The device boots up and after 30-40 sec goes into reboot. Supout file does not allow downloading the reboot occurs before downloading.
I have not found anything in the logs. At the moment of availability I reset the config. After manual settings works.

Installed packages routeros and wireless. Dude not install

Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:52 pm

Maybe netinstall that device and see how it behaves then ?
It's the only way to clear the hidden dungeons of left over config etc.

Shadeofspirit · Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:53 pm

Crs326 - bonding stop working after update to 7.13
Disabling/enabling bonding interface, recreation doesn't help.
Traffic is just stop going after update. (Synology nas is in the other end)

urknall · Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:26 pm

I have an issue with 7.13 that 7.12.1 didn't have (nor before) - I have a bunch of 1gb SFP's in a CRS328-4C-20S-4S+ switch. None of them will link up auto negotiation at full duplex (they are all fiber). I can hard code both sides of a link and it works full duplex, but with auto negotiation duplex is never picked up and you end up with hundreds of "sfpxx excessive or late collision, link duplex match?" errors and most paths not even passing traffic. Downgrade to 7.12 and it auto negotiates correctly. My 10GB SFP+'s are auto negotiating, only 1GB SFP modules are failing to.

I also have problems with a Mikrotik S+RJ10 Module and CRS326-24G-2S+RM:

it says link ok, but i cannot connect to the server that is connected via ethernet 10G. Had to netinstall 7.12.1 to get the connection working again...

ghassan73 · Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:54 pm

Thanks, however, HAP AC3 (RBD53iG-5HacD2HnD) central led now flashing red. I believe this central LED is related to lte / wps?
Up until version 7.12.1 it was solid blue.
Please advise.

Matta · Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:11 pm

Upgraded two LHG XL52 ac (PtP setup), settings were intact, no issue with signal (-42), devices register themselves on one another (both 2GHz and 5GHz), but can't see other LHG via Winbox.
Any clues ?

EDIT: on 7.12.1 was working perfectly.

wfburton · Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:39 pm

Updated CRS309-1G-8S+

Working

TIA

JohnTRIVOLTA · Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:46 pm

Upgraded two LHG XL52 ac (PtP setup), settings were intact, no issue with signal (-42), devices register themselves on one another (both 2GHz and 5GHz), but can't see other LHG via Winbox.
Any clues ?

EDIT: on 7.12.1 was working perfectly.

Are you using the new wifi package? If yes, it does not support station bridge mode yet with old devices/old driver! I use bridge and eoip over wifi link for extending the L2 segment

mike7 · Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:47 pm

CCR1016 after updating to 7.13 not show lte interface anymore.
But in USB list it showing.

wireless already installed

At 7.12 all ok.

The same on hAP ac^3. Sometime after reboot I've got lte interface and internet access but can't access web interface of the modem in hilink mode.

mike7 · Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:52 pm

After upgrading my hAP ax^3 to ROS 7.13 everything works fine, but the front WPS button which previously was solid blue, now blinks in red.
Created a ticket (SUP-137799).

Do you have usb modem attached? I've got red blinks right after modem connection.

dcavni · Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:53 pm

Upgraded two LHG XL52 ac (PtP setup), settings were intact, no issue with signal (-42), devices register themselves on one another (both 2GHz and 5GHz), but can't see other LHG via Winbox.
Any clues ?

EDIT: on 7.12.1 was working perfectly.
Are you using the new wifi package? If yes, it does not support station bridge mode yet with old devices/old driver! I use bridge and eoip over wifi link for extending the L2 segment

There is station bridge mode in new drivers. Tried it just yesterday on LHG52.

Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:57 pm

Yup, already in beta versions. Tested it as well.

krafg · Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:03 pm

Updated all my devices without issues.

Regards.

Matta · Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:04 pm

Yup, already in beta versions. Tested it as well.

I know it's a guessing game, but I cannot find what seems to be the problem. I have 2 pairs of PtP link, similar setup (apart for SSID names etc). Both pairs were on 6.49.11. I've upgraded both pairs to 7.12.1 and both were working. Now I upgraded one pair to 7.13 and have above issues. I checked all settings but cannot find the cause.

Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:06 pm

Start separate thread with export of config.

eguun · Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:09 pm

This AM i upgraded my CCR1009 from version 7.12.1 to version 7.13 now getting the following error when running a script

Download from https://view.sentinel.turris.cz/greylis ... latest.csv to RAM FAILED: Fetch failed with status 206

The same script was working fine under 7.12.1 and earlier versions
Same problem with other scripts:

error ex.
Download from http://::ffff:192.168.8.1/api/webserver/SesTokInfo (::ffff:192.168.8.1) to RAM FAILED: Host is unreachable

versions prior to 7.12.1 there were no problems

+1, report the same error:
- fetch with ipv4 url are automatically "translated" into ipv6 by being prefixed with "::ffff:"
- This results in either host unreachable or data content = null

Had to roll back to 7.12.1

dcavni · Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:34 pm

Yup, already in beta versions. Tested it as well.
I know it's a guessing game, but I cannot find what seems to be the problem. I have 2 pairs of PtP link, similar setup (apart for SSID names etc). Both pairs were on 6.49.11. I've upgraded both pairs to 7.12.1 and both were working. Now I upgraded one pair to 7.13 and have above issues. I checked all settings but cannot find the cause.

When i upgraded LHG52 to 7.13 first in didn't even see wireless intefaces even if wireless package was installed (checked). Probably because there was also Zerotier package on it and something went wrong with the instalation (to little space for all those packages).
I just deleted it and installed qcom ac package and everything seems fine.

cyrq · Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:42 pm

After upgrading my hAP ax^3 to ROS 7.13 everything works fine, but the front WPS button which previously was solid blue, now blinks in red.
Created a ticket (SUP-137799).
Do you have usb modem attached? I've got red blinks right after modem connection.

Yes!
Just tested this and your're right. After connecting the USB modem the LED starts flashing red.
Unplugging it doesn't change it's behavior. You need to reboot the whole router with the modem unplugged. Plugging it back makes the LED starts blinking red again.
EDIT: disabling the dynamic lte1 interface also restores the LED back to normal (static blue).

kravemir · Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:52 pm

Wifi experience was great as soon as I figured out the security connect-priority=0/1 option and managed to work around the VLAN limitation.

Why is that needed? In my WifiWave2/WiFi CAPsMAN setup I don't use this, and devices connect and roam successfully.

Now I'm just hoping that VLAN tagging will find its way back into wifi-qcom-ac driver to restore the flexibility it provides.

Me too. It would make CAP more controlled - better provisioned without a need to manually set bridge ports and VLANs for wifi interfaces on each CAP.

mike7 · Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:55 pm

Do you have usb modem attached? I've got red blinks right after modem connection.
Yes!
Just tested this and your're right. After connecting the USB modem the LED starts flashing red.
Unplugging it doesn't change it's behavior. You need to reboot the whole router with the modem unplugged. Plugging it back makes the LED starts blinking red again.

My modem is useless with 7.13 (
lte interface just disappeared )

diamuxin · Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:02 pm

+1, report the same error:
- fetch with ipv4 url are automatically "translated" into ipv6 by being prefixed with "::ffff:"
- This results in either host unreachable or data content = null

Had to roll back to 7.12.1

Indeed that is the problem, you have explained it better than me ;)
Let's see what solution they give us.

TESTs:
======

# Imput CLI:
{
:local urlSesTokInfo "http://192.168.8.1/api/webserver/SesTokInfo"
:put ([/tool fetch $urlSesTokInfo output=user as-value]->"data")
}

# Log message v7.13:
Download from http://::ffff:192.168.8.1/api/webserver/SesTokInfo (::ffff:192.168.8.1) to RAM FINISHED

# Log message v7.12.1:
No message (ok)

Why do more messages appear in the log like fetch, stp, debug, etc?

whatever · Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:07 pm

Why is that needed? In my WifiWave2/WiFi CAPsMAN setup I don't use this, and devices connect and roam successfully.

At least with FT disabled, the default connect-priority setting delays roaming to a new AP until a client has disconnected from its previous AP. With my Android phone this caused several seconds of delay when roaming.

Setting connect-priority=0/1 ensures connections to a new AP are immediately accepted and the old AP connection is dropped automatically. When using PSK authentication, this allows seamless roaming even without FT.

ppsascha · Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:54 pm

Hi all!

I have the same problem with script on CHR after upgrade :(

Download from https://antifilter.download/list/ip.lst to <nothing> FINISHED
Download from https://antifilter.download/list/ip.lst to RAM FAILED: Fetch failed with status 206

What can i do with this?

jhbarrantes · Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:58 pm

Why migrated configurations (upgrade from 7.12.x to 7.13) has setup non default values for port-cost-mode=short at the bridge, as well as defining internal-path-cost + path-cost at ports?

Thanks!

diamuxin · Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:03 pm

Hi all!

I have the same problem with script on CHR after upgrade :(
Code: Select all
Download from https://antifilter.download/list/ip.lst to <nothing> FINISHED
Download from https://antifilter.download/list/ip.lst to RAM FAILED: Fetch failed with status 206
What can i do with this?

The fetch command has incorporated new features, check the parameters of your "tool/fetch..." script.
https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/display/ROS/Fetch

zentavr · Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:04 pm

I have RB4011iGS+5HacQ2Hnd and cAp ac at one building.
I'd upgraded both to v7.13. CAPSMAN was installed at 4011. The problem is that wireless interfaces at cAP connected successfully to 4011, but 4011 cannot manage its own interfaces.

The same issue with the standalone router RB2011UiAS-2HnD - it cannot manage own wireless interfaces as well.

zentavr · Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:07 pm

Tells me: `CAP did not find suitable CAPsMAN`
CapsMAN setup:

/interface wireless cap
# 
set bridge=bridge-lan caps-man-addresses="" caps-man-certificate-common-names="" \
    caps-man-names="" certificate=none discovery-interfaces=bridge-lan enabled=yes \
    interfaces=wlan1,wlan2 lock-to-caps-man=no static-virtual=no

/caps-man manager
set ca-certificate=none certificate=none enabled=yes package-path="" \
    require-peer-certificate=no upgrade-policy=none
/caps-man manager interface
set [ find default=yes ] disabled=no forbid=no interface=all
add disabled=no forbid=yes interface=bridge-wan
add disabled=no forbid=yes interface=sfp-sfpplus1
add disabled=no forbid=yes interface=ether1
add disabled=no forbid=yes interface=ether2

zentavr · Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:14 pm

I had to set up 127.0.0.1 as a CAPsMAN address at the router which should manage itself. It had been worked for years before without that.

PappaB · Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:34 pm

I upgraded my HAP AC2 from 7.12.1 to 7.13.
Also upgraded the routerboard to the same version.
Removed wireless from packages
Downloaded the 7.13 ARM Extra packages
Uploaded the wifi-qcom-ac
Rebooted

Neither my 2.4 nor 5 GHz interfaces are visible in the Wifi / Menu.
From the Youtube Video (2:39) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkBIQxi-VKs the interfaces should be there, just need to be enabled and configured
However, mine is blank (No interfaces)

I tried with 7.13rc4, and the same situation.
As a last resort I can try to do a facory reset, but I am travelling, and will only be physically close to the router in a week if something goes wrong.

Just to get everyone being able to use the wireless again, I uploaded the wireless-arm.npk, and rebooted. Everything is at least working for the time being.

Any ideas welcome.

kalamaja · Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:43 pm

I upgraded my HAP AC2 from 7.12.1 to 7.13.
Neither my 2.4 nor 5 GHz interfaces are visible in the Wifi / Menu.

hAP AC2 is quite tight on storage, so check first, if wifi-qcom-ac module is successfully installed and listed in System->Packages? There should be 2: routeros and wifi-qcom-ac.
After getting wifi-qcom-ac installed, by default both wifi interfaces are without configuration and disabled, so use oneliner configuration available in WiFi wikipage.

trackersoft · Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:43 pm

Hello guys,
after i upgraded my LTE6 LHG from 7.12 to 7.13 i have problems deleting the sms.
When i click delete in winbox or via command line, my lte connection drops and reconnects.
This happens every time when i delete sms.
I guess it is some kind of bug.

spacex · Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:34 pm

Hello,
Bonding does not work on our Wireless Wire Cube Pro device after 7.13. Those who use this product should be careful. The solution is to disable bonding and add WLAN1 bridge network directly.

ksteink · Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:53 am

Another issue: I tried to downgrade to version 7.12.1 and also doesn't work!! I just uploaded the RouterOS 7.12.1 ARM64 into the /files of my RB5009 and went to System --> Packages --> Downgrade and the router refuses to downgrade. Reboots and nothing happens!.

I am so annoyed! and first time I have this kind of behavior. I am getting now messages every min in Telegram with non--sensical messages.
"If you have another packet except the main uninstall him first. Then make downgrade procedure! "
Thanks goes @JohnTRIVOLTA

Thx it worked

dioeyandika · Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:26 am

*) fetch - added "http-auth-scheme" parameter, allows to select HTTP basic or digest authentication;
*) fetch - added "http-content-encoding" setting;
*) fetch - added raw logging;
*) fetch - allow to receive HTTP response headers;
*) fetch - require "ftp" user policy;

Upgrade sucess in RB750Gr3
My backup script work only for .backup file but dont work with .rsc file, i am confused which part is doesnt work, the rsc file show in sdcard but i cannot see in FTP server, only .backup file and no .rsc file

# script settings
:local saveConfigBackup         true
:local saveSystemBackup         true
:local encryptSystemBackup      false
:local keepRecentLocalBackup    true

# ftp settings
:local ftpUpload                true
:local ftpAddress               "192.168.0.100"
:local ftpPort                  "990"
:local ftpUser                  "****"
:local ftpPassword              "****"
:local ftpDestination           "/NAS/Mikrotik"

# destination directory for local system backup file (.backup)
:local systemBackupDir "/sd1-part1/"

# destination directory for local config backup file (.rsc)
:local configBackupDir "/sd1-part1/"

# filename prefix
:local filePrefix "MikroTik"

#-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

:log warning message="START: Backup Script"

# system identity
:local systemIdentity ([/system identity get name])

# router os version
:local routerOSVersion ("RouterOS v".[/system package get number=0 value-name=version])

# months array
:local months ("jan","feb","mar","apr","may","jun","jul","aug","sep","oct","nov","dec")

# get current time
:local currentTime [/system clock get time]
:set currentTime ([:pick $currentTime 0 2].[:pick $currentTime 3 5].[:pick $currentTime 6 8])

# get current Date
:local currentDate [/system clock get date]

# convert name of month to number
:local month [ :pick $currentDate 0 3 ]
:local monthNumber ([ :find $months $month -1 ] + 1)
:if ($monthNumber < 10) do={
    :set monthNumber ("0" . $monthNumber)
}

# set $currentDate to format YYYY-MM-DD
:set currentDate ([:pick $currentDate 7 11] .".". $monthNumber .".". [:pick $currentDate 4 6])

# filename for system backup
:local backupFilename ($filePrefix."_".$systemIdentity."_".$routerOSVersion."_".$currentDate."_".$currentTime.".backup")

# filename for config backup
:local configFilename ($filePrefix."_".$systemIdentity."_".$routerOSVersion."_".$currentDate."_".$currentTime.".rsc")

# filename for wildcard filename search
:local wildcardFilename ($filePrefix."_".$systemIdentity."_".$routerOSVersion."_")

# store various error messages
:local errorMessage

# do not modify - this variable is used for error handling
:local scriptError false

# do not modify - this variable is used for error handling
:local exitBackupScript false

# remove all previous local backups
    :foreach backupFile in=[/file find name~"$wildcardFilename"] do={
        :do {
            /file remove $backupFile
        }   on-error={
                :set errorMessage "Backup Script: Error removing/clearing backups"
                :log error message="$errorMessage"
                :set scriptError true
                :set exitBackupScript true
            }
}

# save new system backup
:if (($saveSystemBackup = true) && ($scriptError = false)) do={
    :if (($encryptSystemBackup = true) && ($scriptError = true)) do={
        :do {
            /system backup save name="$systemBackupDir/$backupFilename"
        }   on-error={
                :set errorMessage "Backup Script: Error saving system backup (.backup file)"
                :log error "$errorMessage"
                :set scriptError true
                :set exitBackupScript true
            }
    }
    :if (($encryptSystemBackup = false) && ($scriptError = false)) do={
        :do {
            /system backup save dont-encrypt=yes name="$systemBackupDir/$backupFilename"
        }   on-error={
                :set errorMessage "Backup Script: Error saving encrypted system backup (.backup file)"
                :log error "$errorMessage"
                :set scriptError true
                :set exitBackupScript true
            }
    }
    :log info message="Backup Script: Finished system backup $systemBackupDir/$backupFilename"
}

# save new config backup
:if (($saveConfigBackup = true) && ($scriptError = false)) do={
    :do {
        /export show-sensitive compact file="/$configBackupDir/$configFilename"
        :log info message="Backup Script: Finished config backup $configBackupDir/$configFilename"
    }   on-error={
            :set errorMessage "Backup Script: Error saving config backup (.rsc file)"
            :log error "$errorMessage"
            :set scriptError true
            :set exitBackupScript true
        }
}

# upload to ftp
:if ($ftpUpload = true) do={

    :delay 5

    :if (($saveSystemBackup = true) && ($scriptError = false)) do={
        :if ([:len [/file find name~"$backupFilename"]] > 0) do={
            :do {
                /tool fetch mode=ftp address="$ftpAddress" port="$ftpPort" user="$ftpUser" password="$ftpPassword"\
                src-path="$systemBackupDir/$backupFilename" dst-path="$ftpDestination/$backupFilename" upload=yes
                :log info message="Backup Script: Finished uploading system backup via FTP to $ftpAddress$ftpDestination/$backupFilename"
            }   on-error={
                    :set errorMessage "Backup Script: Error uploading system backup $systemBackupDir/$backupFilename via FTP to $ftpAddress$ftpDestination/$backupFilename"
                    :log error "$errorMessage"
                    :set scriptError true
                    :local exitBackupScript true
                }
        } 
    }

    :delay 5

    :if (($saveConfigBackup = true) && ($scriptError = false)) do={
        :if ([:len [/file find name~"$configFilename"]] > 0) do={
            :do {
                /tool fetch mode=ftp address="$ftpAddress" port="$ftpPort" user="$ftpUser" password="$ftpPassword"\
                src-path="$configBackupDir/$configFilename" dst-path="$ftpDestination/$configFilename" upload=yes
                :log info message="Backup Script: Finished uploading config backup via FTP to $ftpAddress$ftpDestination/$configFilename"
            }   on-error={
                    :set errorMessage "Backup Script: Error uploading config backup $configBackupDir/$configFilename via FTP to $ftpAddress$ftpDestination/$configFilename"
                    :log error "$errorMessage"
                    :set scriptError true
                    :set exitBackupScript true
                }
        }
    }
}
:log warning message="END: Backup Script"
###################################
This is the second script for upload to gmail
######## The destination email address #########
:local mailTo "****@gmail.com"

######## File Preferences #########
:local saveUserDb false
:local saveSysBackup true
:local encryptSysBackup false
:local saveRawExport true

########### Change not anything below this line or shit will break ###########

:local ts [/system clock get time]
:set ts ([:pick $ts 0 2].[:pick $ts 3 5].[:pick $ts 6 8])

:local ds [/system clock get date]
:set ds ([:pick $ds 7 11].[:pick $ds 0 3].[:pick $ds 4 6])

:local identity [/system identity get name]
:local version [/system resource get version]
:local serial [/system routerboard get serial-number]
:local model [/system routerboard get model]

# Extract the RouterBoard model series (up to the first space)
:local modelSeries [:pick $model 0 ([:find $model " "])]

:local fname ("BACKUP-" . $identity . "-" . $version . "-" . $model . "-" . $serial . "-" . $ds . "-" . $ts)
:local sfname ("/" . $fname)

:if ($saveUserDb) do={
  /tool user-manager database save name=($sfname.".umb")
  :log info message="User Manager DB Backup Finished"
}

:if ($saveSysBackup) do={
  :if ($encryptSysBackup) do={
    /system backup save name=($sfname.".backup")
  } else={
    /system backup save dont-encrypt=yes name=($sfname.".backup")
  }
  :log info message="System Backup Finished"
}

if ($saveRawExport) do={
  /export show-sensitive file=($sfname.".rsc")
  :log info message="Raw configuration script export Finished"
}

:local backupFileName

#delay between export (sync). If this is too short backup will not exist for email.
:delay 5s

:foreach backupFile in=[/file find] do={
  :set backupFileName ("/" . [/file get $backupFile name])
  :if ([:typeof [:find $backupFileName $sfname]] != "nil") do={
       :log info message="Sending email of Backup Files"
       :put "Sending email of Backup File - $backupFileName"
       #FML!
       :local pathFileFix
       :for i from=0 to=([:len $backupFileName] - 1) do={
          :local char [:pick $backupFileName $i]
          :if ($char = "/") do={
            :set $char ""
          }
          :set pathFileFix ($pathFileFix . $char)
        }

       /tool e-mail send to=$mailTo subject="$pathFileFix" file="$pathFileFix"

       #delay between message send (sync) and file being deleted. If this is too short, the file will be deleted BEFORE the email is sent. Default 5s
       :delay 10s
       /file remove $backupFile
    }
  }
}

can anyone tell me which part should i change from this script

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nithinkumar2000 · Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:20 am

Awsome Mikrotik Team!!!

Waiting for ISIS Features and Documents Update...

JohnTRIVOLTA · Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:19 am

Yup, already in beta versions. Tested it as well.

I'm talking about old devices connected to the new ones or with new wave2 drivers. For me work station pseudobridge mode, but in the stationbridge mode does not pass traffic, in station mode pass only L2.

infabo · Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:45 am

ao use oneliner configuration available in WiFi wikipage.

where can I find this one liner?

And another OT question because the wifi doc is very cryptic about this command functionality:

/interface/wifi reset wifi1

What is being reset? What can I expect to be reset? I am afraid calling this and then being screwed with an invalid config state...

anuser · Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:51 am

Thank you very much for new wifi-qcom-ac package and it's included support for cAP ac. Is airtime fairness feature (ATF) enabled by default for IPQ40xx devices? Or is it disabled?

PappaB · Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:20 am

I upgraded my HAP AC2 from 7.12.1 to 7.13.
Neither my 2.4 nor 5 GHz interfaces are visible in the Wifi / Menu.
hAP AC2 is quite tight on storage, so check first, if wifi-qcom-ac module is successfully installed and listed in System->Packages? There should be 2: routeros and wifi-qcom-ac.
After getting wifi-qcom-ac installed, by default both wifi interfaces are without configuration and disabled, so use oneliner configuration available in WiFi wikipage.

It is possible that the wifi-qcom-ac is not installing. I only have routeros and zerotier (which I use to remotely manage the router).

Nothing else in files....

Has anyone done it with zerotier still installed on HAP AC2?

dcavni · Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:26 am

It does not work with Zerotier on Hap Ac2. To little storage for qcom and zerotier together.

I think it's missing around 300 - 500 kB of space.

whatever · Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:28 am

It doesn't fit with any extra packages, you have to remove zerotier before installing wifi-qcom-ac.

JohnTRIVOLTA · Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:06 am

Hmm, now i tested 3 modes - station, station bridge and station pseudobridge. I have basebox2 with second 5ghz radio and cAPac, both with last stable 7.13 version.
Basebox2 is connected to the cAPac on main 2ghz radio to cAPac and second 5ghz radio work in AP mode. The two radios /4 gen/ are in the bridge.My laptop is connected to the 5ghz second radio on basebox2.
Station mode - the radio is connected, but no traffic is passing through.
Station bridge mode - the radio does not connect
Station pseudobridge mode - the radio is connected, but no traffic is passing through.

infabo · Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:08 am

Thank you very much for new wifi-qcom-ac package and it's included support for cAP ac. Is airtime fairness feature (ATF) enabled by default for IPQ40xx devices? Or is it disabled?

Has MT an air time fairness implementation at all? Isn't that something off-standards?

whatever · Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:09 pm

Station bridge mode - the radio does not connect

You can't use station bridge mode between old wireless and new wifi driver, it requires the same driver on both sides. This is documented in the manual.

JohnTRIVOLTA · Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:31 pm

Station bridge mode - the radio does not connect
You can't use station bridge mode between old wireless and new wifi driver, it requires the same driver on both sides. This is documented in the manual.

OK, but why device with the wifi card /AR9888/ with old drivers on RBM33G, works with a device with new drivers /cAP AC/ in station pseudobridge mode transparently?

mkx · Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:45 pm

You can't use station bridge mode between old wireless and new wifi driver, it requires the same driver on both sides. This is documented in the manual.
OK, but why device with the wifi card /AR9888/ with old drivers on RBM33G, works with a device with new drivers /cAP AC/ in station pseudobridge mode transparently?

Because station-pseudobridge uses standard 802.11 over the air, the "pseudobridge" magic happens entirely inside station device while "bridge" part of station-bridge uses non-standard extensions of 802.11 over the air ... and those extensions are in principle incompatible between different vendors. MT started to use chipset-producer drivers and thus became incompatible with themselves (previously drivers were made by MT). Which makes me believe there willl be another incompatibility if/when MT starts to use wifi chipsets not made by Qualcomm.

The "transparently" part of your question is yet another thing. station-pseudobridge is not truly transparent in sense that L2 properties (MAC addresses) are masked off ... and that causes problems with any services which rely on transparency of L2 (ARP tables, DHCP protocol, etc.).

JohnTRIVOLTA · Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:30 pm

OK, but why device with the wifi card /AR9888/ with old drivers on RBM33G, works with a device with new drivers /cAP AC/ in station pseudobridge mode transparently?
Because station-pseudobridge uses standard 802.11 over the air, the "pseudobridge" magic happens entirely inside station device while "bridge" part of station-bridge uses non-standard extensions of 802.11 over the air ... and those extensions are in principle incompatible between different vendors. MT started to use chipset-producer drivers and thus became incompatible with themselves (previously drivers were made by MT). Which makes me believe there willl be another incompatibility if/when MT starts to use wifi chipsets not made by Qualcomm.

The "transparently" part of your question is yet another thing. station-pseudobridge is not truly transparent in sense that L2 properties (MAC addresses) are masked off ... and that causes problems with any services which rely on transparency of L2 (ARP tables, DHCP protocol, etc.).

Thank you @mkx . My question is why BaseBox2 can't connect or can't set station modes with bridge, but other radio can - in this case rbm33g with AR9888 , if we claim that something is not possible with old drivers? Basebox2 can't create station pseudobridge, RBM33G can?

mkx · Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:58 pm

@JohnTRIVOLTA, I think you should focus on getting straight "station" to pass traffic. That's the most straight forward station mode and should work in any case, regardless the vendor and/or driver generation of either AP or station. After you get station working, pseudobridge should be a relatively easy task.

But make sure the other end is not set to "bridge", it has to run either as "AP" or "AP-bridge".

PappaB · Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:59 pm

I upgraded my HAP AC2 from 7.12.1 to 7.13.
Neither my 2.4 nor 5 GHz interfaces are visible in the Wifi / Menu.
hAP AC2 is quite tight on storage, so check first, if wifi-qcom-ac module is successfully installed and listed in System->Packages? There should be 2: routeros and wifi-qcom-ac.
After getting wifi-qcom-ac installed, by default both wifi interfaces are without configuration and disabled, so use oneliner configuration available in WiFi wikipage.

You were all correct.
I set up a VPN to my edge router, so I could test the process using a "local" IP instead of Zerotier.
After removing Zerotier, I was able to load wifi-qcom-ac and the interfaces were visible and could be configured.

After all of that I decided to roll back though, as Zerotier is more important (ability to remotely manage) for me at the moment.

I will check in future if there is more unbundling taking place, and whether I will be able to get wifi-qcom-ac and Zerotier running together.
A few of the core components are not really vital to me, as the HAP AC2s I have are just APs, the edge device is an RB5009 where I need full functionality.
It is really a pity that storage is so limited on the HAP AC2, as it is otherwise an excellent device.

I would consider upgrading all my HAP AC2s to HAP AX2s, but the AX2s do not have an USB port, which I use on the AC2s to drive small ESP32 cameras (small enough power requirement to work quite well).
That leaves me with the AX3 as an option, but the size and price difference does not justify it.
If only we had an USB port on the AX2, or a similarly specced device at a similar price point to the AX2 with an USB port.
Mikrotik - consider bringing out a HAP AX2.5-U (AX2 with an USB port and same small size)

Let's see what the future holds.

diamuxin · Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:13 pm

Hi all!

I have the same problem with script on CHR after upgrade :(
Code: Select all
Download from https://antifilter.download/list/ip.lst to <nothing> FINISHED
Download from https://antifilter.download/list/ip.lst to RAM FAILED: Fetch failed with status 206
What can i do with this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_HTTP_status_codes

206 Partial Content
The server is delivering only part of the resource (byte serving) due to a range header sent by the client. The range header is used by HTTP clients to enable resuming of interrupted downloads, or split a download into multiple simultaneous streams.

Mikrotik has implemented changes to the "fetch" command.

*) fetch - added "http-auth-scheme" parameter, allows to select HTTP basic or digest authentication;
*) fetch - added "http-content-encoding" setting;
*) fetch - added raw logging;
*) fetch - allow to receive HTTP response headers;
*) fetch - require "ftp" user policy;

JohnTRIVOLTA · Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:19 pm

@JohnTRIVOLTA, I think you should focus on getting straight "station" to pass traffic. That's the most straight forward station mode and should work in any case, regardless the vendor and/or driver generation of either AP or station. After you get station working, pseudobridge should be a relatively easy task.

But make sure the other end is not set to "bridge", it has to run either as "AP" or "AP-bridge".

Thank you @mkx! Station standalone mode works on both boards /Basebox2 or RBM33G/, but i don't want L3 with EoiP/VPLS for the L2 transparent connectivity! My question is why basebox2 can't work in this mode /station pseduebridge, others modes not works with bridge/ like the RBM33G , both with same ros version and old drivers, if the problem is the old driver only?

mkx · Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:24 pm

If basebox2 works in station mode but not in station-pseudobridge, then it's the pseudobridge function on basebox2 which is broken. Pseudobridge doesn't "offload" anything on the other end if the radio link.

jbarbieri · Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:38 pm

Transferred the 2.4ghz network from capsman to the new 7.13 driver with RB3011 and 2 AP hac ac2. Everything seems to be working correctly.

/interface wifi channel
add band=2ghz-n disabled=no frequency=2412 name="Canales 2,4GHz" width=20/40mhz
/interface wifi datapath
add bridge=HOME disabled=no name=HOME
add bridge=bridge-VLANs disabled=no name=CRISWIFI vlan-id=28
add bridge=bridge-VLANs disabled=no name=DANWIFI vlan-id=24
add bridge=bridge-VLANs disabled=no name=GUEST vlan-id=11
add bridge=bridge-VLANs disabled=no name=IFI-IoT vlan-id=12
/interface wifi security
add authentication-types=wpa2-psk,wpa3-psk disabled=no encryption="" name=WIFI-HOME passphrase=*+password*
add authentication-types=wpa2-psk,wpa3-psk disabled=no encryption="" name=DANWIFI passphrase=++password+
add authentication-types=wpa2-psk,wpa3-psk disabled=no encryption="" name=CRISWIFI passphrase=-+password-
add authentication-types=wpa2-psk,wpa3-psk disabled=no encryption="" name=GUEST passphrase=+password**
add authentication-types=wpa2-psk,wpa3-psk disabled=no encryption="" name=WIFI-IoT passphrase=+password
/interface wifi configuration
add channel="Canales 2,4GHz" datapath=HOME disabled=no mode=ap name=HOME-DYC security=WIFI-HOME ssid="DAN y CRIS"
add channel="Canales 2,4GHz" datapath=DANWIFI disabled=no mode=ap name=DANWIFI security=DANWIFI ssid="WiFi de DAN"
add channel="Canales 2,4GHz" datapath=CRISWIFI disabled=no mode=ap name=CRISWIFI security=CRISWIFI ssid="WiFi de CRIS"
add channel="Canales 2,4GHz" datapath=IFI-IoT disabled=no mode=ap name="WiFi - IoT" security=WIFI-IoT ssid="WiFi - IoT"
add channel="Canales 2,4GHz" datapath=GUEST disabled=no mode=ap name=GUEST security=GUEST ssid="WiFi GUEST"
/interface wifi access-list
add action=accept allow-signal-out-of-range=5s disabled=no interface=any signal-range=-83..120 ssid-regexp=""
add action=reject allow-signal-out-of-range=5s disabled=no interface=any ssid-regexp=""
/interface wifi capsman
set enabled=yes interfaces=all package-path="" require-peer-certificate=no upgrade-policy=none
/interface wifi provisioning
add action=create-dynamic-enabled disabled=no master-configuration=HOME-DYC radio-mac=MIMACADDRESS slave-configurations=\
    "DANWIFI,CRISWIFI,WiFi - IoT,GUEST"

That's interesting. When I went to 7.13 it broke my slave configurations. Running on a HAP AC. Took me a bit to troubleshoot then went back to 7.12.1 and had to reload (same) config for it to come back. Debating on trying again today.

JohnTRIVOLTA · Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:43 pm

If basebox2 works in station mode but not in station-pseudobridge, then it's the pseudobridge function on basebox2 which is broken. Pseudobridge doesn't "offload" anything on the other end if the radio link.

Basebox2 does not work in any mode and rbm33g only works with station pseudobridge great like station bridge , but why?
@whatever wrote:
"You can't use station bridge mode between old wireless and new wifi driver, it requires the same driver on both sides. This is documented in the manual."

nostromog · Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:59 pm

I upgrading my SOHO network from 7.12 (no ax router) and my main hAP ac2 went apparently ok... until next morning when I did another /export and it entered a boot loop

Apparently the "old" capsman configuration was crashing the machine soon after reboot, with a message about a critical program crashing, and I had to reset the configuration to get it back to live.
Now I'm re-doing the configuration carefully. Still have not re-joined the two capman "slaves", and I'm afraid it will enter the loop again.

I'm using the wireless package. Is there any known problem with "old" capsman config in 7.13?

peich1 · Sun Dec 17, 2023 4:07 pm

CCR1016 after updating to 7.13 not show lte interface anymore.
But in USB list it showing.

wireless already installed

At 7.12 all ok.

I've got the same problem with a Huawei E3372h-153. I've also got a E3372h-320 that seems to work fine.

But the E3372h-153 just disappears. It goes up for a split second and then goes down. Tried in a RB5009 and a AX3. I've also tried with a RB2011 and it works for a few seconds after restart, but then RX/TX stays at 0 mbps. I ended up downgrading to 7.12 and works fine again. There's definitely something broken in 7.13.

Also, after upgrading +30 devices, I've got a problem with a CRS328: interfaces didn't go up after upgrade. I had to connect using the console cable and observed there were 0 bytes left. After deleting some files and the wireless package, it booted correctly.

mkx · Sun Dec 17, 2023 4:30 pm

Basebox2 does not work in any mode

Well, make up your mind, you wrote in your previous post that ...

Station standalone mode works on both boards /Basebox2 or RBM33G/

JohnTRIVOLTA · Sun Dec 17, 2023 5:01 pm

Basebox2 does not work in any mode
Well, make up your mind, you wrote in your previous post that ...

Station standalone mode works on both boards /Basebox2 or RBM33G/

Make a difference between wifi station mode alone and wifi station mode as a bridgeport in the bridge!

whatever · Sun Dec 17, 2023 5:04 pm

Why would you add a station mode interface to a bridge? This makes no sense at all and cannot produce any usable result.

JohnTRIVOLTA · Sun Dec 17, 2023 5:06 pm

Why would you add a station mode interface to a bridge? This makes no sense at all and cannot produce any usable result.

Тo try to somehow get l2 connectivity working.
Leave this modе aside, the question isn't about it.
Why station pseudobridge work with old drivers on RBM33G, but not with basebox2 ? This is my question!

mkx · Sun Dec 17, 2023 5:11 pm

IMO wifi interface in straight station mode is useless as bridge port by definition. Because only that particular device (as an L3 entity) can communicate via wireless in station mode.

mkx · Sun Dec 17, 2023 5:16 pm

Why station pseudobridge work with old drivers on RBM33G, but not with basebox2 ? This is my question!

As I already wrote: it is probably a bug ... either in ROS on basebox2 or in config applied to basebox2. If you suspect a bug in ROS (I guess you do), then make supout.rif of non-working basebox2 (and preferably of the working vasebox2 running 7.12.1 for a refrence) and send them to Mikrotik to investigate.

JohnTRIVOLTA · Sun Dec 17, 2023 5:21 pm

IMO wifi interface in straight station mode is useless as bridge port by definition. Because only that particular device (as an L3 entity) can communicate via wireless in station mode.

Focus on the question that interests me please! I tested again with a different board/NetMetal 5/ and with the old driver work in station pseudobridge mode too. If the driver incompatibility old/new was a problem, why some boards can work, other not?

JohnTRIVOLTA · Sun Dec 17, 2023 5:25 pm

Why station pseudobridge work with old drivers on RBM33G, but not with basebox2 ? This is my question!

As I already wrote: it is probably a bug ... either in ROS on basebox2 or in config applied to basebox2. If you suspect a bug in ROS (I guess you do), then make supout.rif of non-working basebox2 (and preferably of the working basebox2 running 7.12.1 for a refrence) and send them to Mikrotik to investigate.

Thank you ! I will make some more tests with another models.

kurio · Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:30 pm

You were all correct.
I set up a VPN to my edge router, so I could test the process using a "local" IP instead of Zerotier.
After removing Zerotier, I was able to load wifi-qcom-ac and the interfaces were visible and could be configured.

After all of that I decided to roll back though, as Zerotier is more important (ability to remotely manage) for me at the moment.

I will check in future if there is more unbundling taking place, and whether I will be able to get wifi-qcom-ac and Zerotier running together.
A few of the core components are not really vital to me, as the HAP AC2s I have are just APs, the edge device is an RB5009 where I need full functionality.
It is really a pity that storage is so limited on the HAP AC2, as it is otherwise an excellent device.

Yes, if i knew that 16 MB devices are crap, i would not buy AC2.
Normally, when you upgrade with zerotier, you don't have space even for wireless package, so the upgrade fails and you are left on 12.1.
You can only have 13 with zerotier, if you remove all configuration, upgrade, install wireless (no new wifi-qcom-ac), and then install zerotier. And you have to know how to upload it correctly (not to flash, but to RAM). But you will end up with 0% free space. So, you risk to lock up your device, if put lots of config on it, or if it generates over 100-200 kilobytes of files.
I am sure that we will never see the room for extra packages on 16MB devices. Their obsolescence was programmed, and has arrived. This is called "efficient management based on effective marketing".
Because zerotier is very important for me, i had to downgrade to 12.1, and will never upgrade until i would never need zerotier anymore.
Many enthusiasts will now have to spend more money on their expensive toys.

mike7 · Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:31 pm

CCR1016 after updating to 7.13 not show lte interface anymore.
But in USB list it showing.

wireless already installed

At 7.12 all ok.
I've got the same problem with a Huawei E3372h-153. I've also got a E3372h-320 that seems to work fine.

But the E3372h-153 just disappears. It goes up for a split second and then goes down. Tried in a RB5009 and a AX3. I've also tried with a RB2011 and it works for a few seconds after restart, but then RX/TX stays at 0 mbps. I ended up downgrading to 7.12 and works fine again. There's definitely something broken in 7.13.

Also, after upgrading +30 devices, I've got a problem with a CRS328: interfaces didn't go up after upgrade. I had to connect using the console cable and observed there were 0 bytes left. After deleting some files and the wireless package, it booted correctly.

Looks like 7.13 breaks E3372h-153 somehow, after downgrade ROS to 7.12 I can't use HiLink API for sms and I can't send sms from modem either. I tried to reflash, upgrade modem and reset to factory, still have an issue with sms. May be something happened with sim card, but can only check in the next year (

optio · Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:48 pm

Regarding 16MB flash devices, to have possibility in future to install any new ROS versions and any supported packages for device architecture maybe MT needs to consider feature to extend system partition with external drive or even possibility to completely use external drive partition as system root. Some 16MB devices have enough other resources (cpu/ram) that serves user's purpose. Why forcing to buy new device just for more system storage? (rhetorical question).
Also 7.12.x can be set as long term release due to changes in 7.13, because some cannot upgrade to that version with some packages combinations due device storage limitation. In this case 7.12 must receive patches for major/security issues.

jirinovak · Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:13 pm

I tested this version on my CCR 1016 where MPLS and VPLS {LDP} is running. After 3 to 5 minutes router reboots and it keeps repating over and over. On version 7.12.1 everything is ok. Has anyone same experience? No error in log.

lubomirs · Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:04 pm

small note outside the version. . . hap ax2 if it had at least USB2 (better USB3.X) it would be an ideal small device and I think its sales would increase several times. . .
This way we have ac2 with USB but little storage space and limited RAM, and ax2 without USB but with lots of RAM and enough storage space.
I don't know what led MKT to such a failed solution.
(And putting PoeIn and PoeOut on one port, I didn't understand that either.)

diamuxin · Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:22 pm

small note outside the version. . . hap ax2 if it had at least USB2 (better USB3.X) it would be an ideal small device and I think its sales would increase several times. . .
This way we have ac2 with USB but little storage space and limited RAM, and ax2 without USB but with lots of RAM and enough storage space.
I don't know what led MKT to such a failed solution.

+1

Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:30 pm

Setting connect-priority=0/1 ensures connections to a new AP are immediately accepted and the old AP connection is dropped automatically. When using PSK authentication, this allows seamless roaming even without FT.

Thanks for the tip, man. You are a lifesaver!

dvoijen · Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:22 pm

I tested this version on my CCR 1016 where MPLS and VPLS {LDP} is running. After 3 to 5 minutes router reboots and it keeps repating over and over. On version 7.12.1 everything is ok. Has anyone same experience? No error in log.

Here the same, i have a RB5009UG+S After upgrade it keeps rebooting after 5 á 10 minutes.

dvoijen · Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:28 pm

Another issue: I tried to downgrade to version 7.12.1 and also doesn't work!! I just uploaded the RouterOS 7.12.1 ARM64 into the /files of my RB5009 and went to System --> Packages --> Downgrade and the router refuses to downgrade. Reboots and nothing happens!.

I am so annoyed! and first time I have this kind of behavior. I am getting now messages every min in Telegram with non--sensical messages.

Uninstall the Wireless Package before downgrade.

markatel · Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:54 pm

After upgrading to 7.13, the connectivity to CCR1009 router was lost.

After inspection, it seems that Bridge VLAN Filtering behavior has changed and is not correct.

There are all VLANs declared in the Bridge/VLANs table but the VLAN filtering wasn't enabled on the bridge.

Still, the traffic wasn't passing by.

Please be aware. Support ticket opened: SUP-137880

ahmdzaki18 · Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:06 pm

Is anyone trying IS-IS cli? is it good?

pe1chl · Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:48 pm

After upgrading to 7.13, the connectivity to CCR1009 router was lost.

Upgrading from what version?

pe1chl · Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:51 pm

Regarding 16MB flash devices, to have possibility in future to install any new ROS versions and any supported packages for device architecture maybe MT needs to consider feature to extend system partition with external drive or even possibility to completely use external drive partition as system root.

Has been suggested before, e.g. when the hAP ac2 could not run wifiwave2 due to space restrictions, but that model has USB.
No meaningful reaction, so I presume they "just don't want to do that" for whatever reason.

Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:52 pm

After upgrading to 7.13, the connectivity to CCR1009 router was lost.
Upgrading from what version?

If stable, 7.12 or 7.12.1, obviously.

zdiv · Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:02 am

I tested this version on my CCR 1016 where MPLS and VPLS {LDP} is running. After 3 to 5 minutes router reboots and it keeps repating over and over. On version 7.12.1 everything is ok. Has anyone same experience? No error in log.

I have same behavior with CCR1036-8G-2S+,CCR1009-7G-1C-1S+ and CCR2004-1G-12S+2XS.
Getting Log messages (CLI):
rebooted without proper shutdown by watchdog timer
or
router was rebooted without proper shutdown, probably kernel failure

After returning to 7.12.1 everything seams to be stable

giannici · Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:09 am

I tested this version on my CCR 1016 where MPLS and VPLS {LDP} is running. After 3 to 5 minutes router reboots and it keeps repating over and over. On version 7.12.1 everything is ok. Has anyone same experience? No error in log.
Here the same, i have a RB5009UG+S After upgrade it keeps rebooting after 5 á 10 minutes.

We experience that too!
An RB4011 crashed after a few minutes or half an hour, it seems it depends on the amount of traffic.
A CCR2216 crashed after a few hours.

Every other router without VPLS have no problem.

optio · Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:11 am

No meaningful reaction, so I presume they "just don't want to do that" for whatever reason.

My guess is they don't want additional development cost to sell less devices.

dalami · Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:10 am

Is there a list of devices that require/support the "wifi-qcom-ac" package? Should the "wireless" package be uninstalled first?