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Upgrade License

Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:36 pm

Hello MKT Team
Like 2 month I installed a License level 4 in a new server, I now I have more that 150 clients, It's possible to upgrade the license to level 6? I have the actual license in a IBM server with an originally disk, so I want to continue using that disc.
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Re: Upgrade License

Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:01 pm

Rafa:
you can not upgrade the license, just buy a new


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Re: Upgrade License

Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:22 am

Thank MAXI o pongo gracias nomas!!!
And how I do to recover that license, to use on another disk?
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Re: Upgrade License

Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:42 am

buy a new license and install a new disk. use old disk with old license =)
 
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Re: Upgrade License

Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:02 pm

But the "old disk" have only 2 month!!! and is a wonderfull disk, is a IBM
 
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Re: Upgrade License

Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:28 pm

Hey why don't he can't upgrade his license? I have updated a few L-4 license to L-6. I just have to pay the extra fee(L-6 license price - L-4 license price)= (250$-45$)= 205$
 
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Re: Upgrade License

Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:35 pm

Hey why don't he can't upgrade his license? I have updated a few L-4 license to L-6. I just have to pay the extra fee(L-6 license price - L-4 license price)= (250$-45$)= 205$
mikrotik doesn't offer such feature.

as somebody already said - use this old disk in another router, and get a new disk for the current setup, with a brand new L6
 
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Re: Upgrade License

Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:24 pm

Yes like say hulk-bd pay only teh upgrade!!!!
And How can I do the transfer license? so I continue using this disk with the server and I use L4 in another
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Re: Upgrade License

Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:10 am

mikrotik doesn't offer such feature.

as somebody already said - use this old disk in another router, and get a new disk for the current setup, with a brand new L6
Dear normis, Then how could I done that!!!!???? is that kindda option just deleted from work with keys (MT license option)!!???

Dudes I have done it for 3 of my MT OS L-4 license and upgraded to L-6. How come!!!!!??? :o
 
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Re: Upgrade License

Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:27 am

mikrotik doesn't offer such feature.

as somebody already said - use this old disk in another router, and get a new disk for the current setup, with a brand new L6
Dear normis, Then how could I done that!!!!???? is that kindda option just deleted from work with keys (MT license option)!!???

Dudes I have done it for 3 of my MT OS L-4 license and upgraded to L-6. How come!!!!!??? :o
sorry, there is no such feature. i don't know how you did it, but it's not legally possible.
 
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Re: Upgrade License

Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:25 pm

And How can I do the transfer license? so I continue using this disk with the server and I use L4 in another
you cannot transfer the license. use this disk with L4 in another server, and buy new disk for L6
 
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Re: Upgrade License

Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:25 pm

Dudes I have done it for 3 of my MT OS L-4 license and upgraded to L-6. How come!!!!!??? :o
when was that done?
 
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Re: Upgrade License

Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:19 pm

when was that done?
2 years ago.

I think there was an option like upgrade, not sure but it wasn't any illegal thing. cause I had to pay 205$ per L-6 license for upgrading from L-4 to L-6 .

Dear normis how can you say something like that!
sorry, there is no such feature. i don't know how you did it, but it's not legally possible.
I paid for all of my license.
 
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Re: Upgrade License

Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:37 am

Am I the only one that thinks it is ridiculious that you can't "upgrade" a license or transfer it to a new drive? Probably one of the dumbest things I can think of for Mikrotik ROS. Otherwise it's a nice OS and great features... But that's the one thing holding me back from ever buying a license and installing it on an X86 based machine. Stupid Stupid Stupid....
 
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Re: Upgrade License

Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:56 am

Whys that, just move it to another machine. If needed.. to be honest, you are one of the first people that I have heard complain about this.. Most people think paying 45 beans for a LVL4 and all the features is a steal.....
 
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Re: Upgrade License

Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:12 am

Crap, my hard drive died so now I have to buy a new copy of windows, and a new copy of office, etc....

What if you just want a newer faster drive and want to clone it to a new one... nope, gotta but a new license too.

Sorry, but that logic just doesn't make sense to me.

There are a ton of reasons I can think of that I might want to change the disk that shouldn't require new software.

Maybe if I hear one GOOD reason, I'll lighten up, but I think I'm speaking for quite a few more people than you think.. I could be wrong, but I've seen at least a few people who didn't think it was right either. And no, "it doesn't cost that much anyway" isn't a "good" reason. Just because it's not that painful doesn't mean it's right. There is only one reason I can think of that even qualifies as an answer and that would be copy protection.
 
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Re: Upgrade License

Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:11 am

Crap, my hard drive died so now I have to buy a new copy of windows, and a new copy of office, etc....

What if you just want a newer faster drive and want to clone it to a new one... nope, gotta but a new license too.

Sorry, but that logic just doesn't make sense to me.

There are a ton of reasons I can think of that I might want to change the disk that shouldn't require new software.

Maybe if I hear one GOOD reason, I'll lighten up, but I think I'm speaking for quite a few more people than you think.. I could be wrong, but I've seen at least a few people who didn't think it was right either. And no, "it doesn't cost that much anyway" isn't a "good" reason. Just because it's not that painful doesn't mean it's right. There is only one reason I can think of that even qualifies as an answer and that would be copy protection.
what you wrote is not correct. it doesn't work that way. you have to contact support and it will be solved.
 
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Re: Upgrade License

Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:43 am

If what you say is true, then that's great, but it is opposite of what the WIKI and other users here say.

According to the wiki, the only thing mentioned is if you have a physical failure that is beyond your control, and even then it says you might need to send in the drive to PROVE that you're telling the truth.

So is it really much simpler than that and someone who simply wants to put in a new hard drive could actually transfer the license?
 
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Re: Upgrade License

Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:19 pm

If what you say is true, then that's great, but it is opposite of what the WIKI and other users here say.

According to the wiki, the only thing mentioned is if you have a physical failure that is beyond your control, and even then it says you might need to send in the drive to PROVE that you're telling the truth.

So is it really much simpler than that and someone who simply wants to put in a new hard drive could actually transfer the license?
Imagine what would happen if the docs said something else - everyone would tell us their drives failed and just clone the licenses.
So is it really much simpler than that and someone who simply wants to put in a new hard drive could actually transfer the license?
yes it's possible and not difficult at all, but it has to go though support
 
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Re: Upgrade License

Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:34 pm

Hello
Like say jcremin, gmsmstr you are so confuse!!! We are people that works, do what we can!! and not have a lot of money to buy license everytime!!! Paying U$S 250 and the other license (U$S 45) is too expensive!!
Well I think I'll have to buy a new one, but I want to use that disk!! How can I transfer the license L4 to another disk?
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Re: Upgrade License

Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:10 pm

Ok, well that's good to know, but Imagine if the docs said that it was possible. I might actually own a couple licenses now, so are you hurting sales as much as you're stopping pirating?

In my opinion, if someone has to go through support, I think the people who would actually take advantage of you and steal licenses is the minority and you're still stoping the general public from pirating.
 
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Re: Upgrade License

Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:42 pm

Hows this.. If you are using a $250 license, and NEED this, then you can afford the cost of doing business. Look at CISCO or any other major router brands. If you need a upgrade with Cisco, you have to have a smartnet, and most of them are over $100 bucks.

I guess I am jut in another world here, but when a customer is buying a level 6 from me, they have THOUSANDS of PPPoE clients etc, $250 is not much for their software! Their hardware is much more than that to handle that.

In most cases a L4 can work just fine for most people, again, back to the $45 cost. Unless you are not an ISP i.e. a home user, then I guess you have something to compain about. However, I VERY VERY RARELY put a License on a Hard Drive. Why, cause it will fail! Just a matter of time. Use one of MTs IDE Flashes or a CF card.

IF you need caching, put a HD in and a CF with the OS on it. IF the Drive dies, the OS runs and you don't have caching. I guess I don't see how the cost of MT License is anywhere NEAR the cost of virtually any other router out there. Cause with them you are either paying more cause you have to buy their hardware or a contract that is more than the MT license.
 
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Re: Upgrade License

Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:51 pm

I must thank our MT support team to gave me so many really helpful support, There were more than 2 HDD were crushed with L-6 license on it and I was so lucky that our MT support team replaced all the crushed HDD L-6 license for me and I didn't have to pay anything for that. So, Dear jcremin I think you are wrong about our MT support types.

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Re: Upgrade License

Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:06 am

Hello what say hulk-bd is really true, the support of MKT is wonderfull, thankssss
What I only did is to ask if it's possible to transfer the license.
Bye and forget the problems
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Re: Upgrade License

Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:06 pm

Don't get me wrong, I think the MT support is great. It takes a great company to partcipate in the forums this much.

I just think that this particular practice isn't right. I'm glad to hear that they will accomodate people who have drives fail. What I don't agree with is the mentality of "other companies do it" which I don't agree with Cisco's method either. Just because I'm an ISP doesn't mean I should be penalized. Maybe I'm just starting out and don't have much money and an unplanned $45 is a big deal. $45 here and there doesn't take long to add up quickly.

I know the docs say "just like you can't easily upgrade the size of your engine" which isn't a very good comparison. This is just a different software version, not a hardware change. It's like saying I want to put new snow tires on my truck. Just because I want new tires doesn't mean I need to buy a whole new truck. And if I get a broken windshield, I don't buy a new car, I just replace the windshield and I'm back in business.

I'm just voicing my opinion and trying to give as many examples of how I see it. It doesn't mean that I'm right or wrong, just my opinion. If nothing changes, it's not a big deal, but I'm just putting in my vote on how I think it should work.
 
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Re: Upgrade License

Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:51 pm

Hey jcremin, never mind bro. Everyone should have the right to give his/her opinion here.

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Re: Upgrade License

Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:24 am

And if I get a broken windshield, I don't buy a new car, I just replace the windshield and I'm back in business.
you are talking about replacement of a broken key then. in that case, there are no problems:
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/All_about ... e_drive.3F

we will give you a replacement key (free or 10$ depending on the issue) in case your hardware fails.

changing between levels is not possible anymore, in exchange - we decided to make the upgrade time limit infinite. before that you had specific number of months to upgrade ROS. now you can upgrade from 2.9 to v3 even after 10 years

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