[admin@MikroTik] > interface/wifi/radio/reg-info country="Australia"
number: 1
ranges: 2402-2482/20
5170-5250/23/indoor
5250-5330/23/indoor/dfs
5490-5590/30/dfs
5650-5730/30/dfs
5735-5835/36
[admin@MikroTik] > interface/wifi/radio/reg-info country="United States"
number: 1
ranges: 2402-2472/30
5170-5250/30
5250-5330/24/dfs
5490-5730/24/dfs
5735-5895/30
Please start a new thread if you need help with basic Mikrotik wifi config - I want to keep this one focused on a specific issue. I will tell you that you can get the channel configuration you want, if not necessarily the performance, by making the right changes.Have the same router model. Same problem with 5Ghz wifi.
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And no option to manually chose channels from list and force routed pick what I want, not what it decides is good.
Huh... Interesting. So it may indeed be the receive side that is to blame. I would presume that the microvolt-level signal that is actually received by the antennae is amplified prior to being processed. If that amplifier is somehow borked, the AP won't be able to actually receive packets from devices attempting to connect to it, except for ones that are very close to it.Something I didn't state previously - while watching in a wifi analyzer the 5G network will periodically disappear. Don't know if that's an announce/beacon thing or if it indicates an issue.
I still can't connect at any distance. My android devices show they're attempting to connect, display "Authenticating...", and give up. When I move close enough to the hAP to connect, and then go check Winbox, I see the RX signal from my device is quite weak.
Here are some less hard facts, so take with a pinch of salt:
This would pretty clearly establish some of the range issues certain individuals are having, particularly in regions where the regulatory domain is particularly out of whack (Australia, Poland). The responses of "mine works fine" is probably because it does, your regulatory domain isn't mangled.
Apologies, don't mean to derail the topic then - a lot of these topics have seemed to have melded due to the shared issue of the ax3 and it's range.The regulatory domains are indeed completely and totally out of whack, at least in my experience. MikroTik apparently already knows this. I did also file a bug report with my findings though, but no response yet. So yeah. A bit of a nightmare, agreed. But it seems to be only half the issue, and it is not what this particular topic seems to be about, as @dalami has explicitly stated they set country to United States, which works fine as far as I'm aware.I'm set up in Australia, which should have a regulatory target of 23 Tx power on 5180/Ceee - I instead get 17 Tx power, a bit lower. When set to the United States, which has a regulatory target of 30, it reaches 23 Tx power, which Australia should theoretically be able to reach on this antenna.
If it's at all helpful to the other half of the issue dalami is facing, the Tx power output I was getting for my US set config was seven db's lower than the thirty target on 5180/Ceee.
Within 2m connecting and 6m away not? that's odd indeedThe Android devices that can't connect 20 feet away do connect 6 feet away.
Not sure what I'm looking for. Are there lots of other networks visible from my neighbors? Yes.There's also another possible explanation, which is high noise floor. Please try and measure it with frequency scan tool.
Not sure what I'm looking for. Are there lots of other networks visible from my neighbors? Yes.
Regarding the output power which you say is not meeting regulatory values. Could it be that the vaues are for the board only,
and you have to add antenna gain to that? Which is pretty high for the hap ax3 with its external antennas.
I would be super surprised if there is any error in that, Mikrotik doing routers since 20 years or more.
PS: My hap ax3 has very good range in 2.4G and 5G and I get close to 900mbps TCP over Wifi with my phone in 5Ghz (7.15beta9).
If it's at all helpful to the other half of the issue dalami is facing, the Tx power output I was getting for my US set config was seven db's lower than the thirty target on 5180/Ceee.
Ah. Then I should be the one apologizing. And I do apologize. I misremembered my testing.
This is the best advice so far in this thread. OP, start with a fresh configuration with the absolute bare minimum. If you still have this weird behaviour -> you have at least gathered a reproducible workflow for Mikrotik support so they can reproduce your issue as well.To debug anything around Wifi physical link performance I recommned to just use the device
after reset without config as a simple AP, just add WPA2 password (do not use WPA3) and apply country settings. Nothing else!
Thank you - I'm glad to have an on-topic response.I do have hap ax3.
Now, this is interesting. I didn't know/realize this. Worth trying...disabling 2G...In addition since in 7.X release have band steering/roaming, you better disable the 2.4G Wifi interface completely
to avoid that the AP pushes your clients onto 2.4Ghz (I found the settings for steering are all over the place and I don;t trust steering is off until I disable 2.4G).
Ok. Here's frequency usage: And here's a scan. Note the "strong" hidden network is coming from my wifi-enabled cable modem. This was just installed a few days ago - it made absolutely no difference to the how the hAP AX3 5G was operating. I've been trying to kill that hidden wifi - I'll probably wind up replacing the modem. Please disregard those entries.Sorry. There's the "Scan" button in winbox, and "Freq. Usage" button. You wanna look for "NF" column in "Freq. Usage" and take note of what it's saying. Here's mine:
Ok. Here's frequency usage:Sorry. There's the "Scan" button in winbox, and "Freq. Usage" button. You wanna look for "NF" column in "Freq. Usage" and take note of what it's saying. Here's mine:
frequse.png
And here's a scan.
scan.png
Note the "strong" hidden network is coming from my wifi-enabled cable modem. This was just installed a few days ago - it made absolutely no difference to the how the hAP AX3 5G was operating. I've been trying to kill that hidden wifi - I'll probably wind up replacing the modem. Please disregard those entries.
I was really hoping to see some more responses from other AX3 owners. As it is...I'm probably going to box these up soon. Now the question is what do I replace them with. Roll the dice to see if replacement AX3's work? Or look elsewhere?
I was really hoping to see some more responses from other AX3 owners. [...]
I *want* to use MT devices...but I've seen too many posts from others who swear by MT for routing but recommend alternatives for wireless. [...]
I'm torn.
though it looks like no one has a straight answer for the other issues
I understand you already tried a lot of configurations. But could you repeat the scan with WiFi analyzer with the following differences?The modem is in my back room - about 50' away from AX3. Again - this has only been present a few days and the AX3 performance has been unaltered. PLEASE disregard its existence - other than the fact that this "free" modem is able to push a 5G signal throughout my home while my AX3 can't see past its own antennas.
As requested, here's an android wifi analysis with my phone within 3 feet of the AX3.
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Yeah it catches me out all the time because I use Wifiinfoview to hop between BSSID's and leave it open. ps, if you wish to do that with wifiinfoview you need to disable the auto-connect flag then you can hop to all your AP's with same SSIDGood tip - it probably was running but not after the restart.
Out of interest, inSSIDer is reporting signal strength of ~-50 but the hAP ax2 log shows about -20 lower. Why the difference?
Thanks for that - makes sense.Each device reports strength of signal received from the link peer. inSSIDer is reporting signal strength of AP, received by laptop. And hAP ax3 reports signal strength of laptop. As AP reports much lower signal strength than laptop, this means either hAP ax3 has shitty receiver (not very likely) or laptop's Tx power sucks (more likely). The first option would equally affect all clients.
Agreed. Will switch to other thread.Maybe it is better if we do not hijack @dalami's thread.
I've seen several issues with WPA3.
I understand your point. Still, the test I suggest aims at simplifying the environment by removing elements that potentially play a role.
I realized that some clients are not connected, after some searching i found this thread and this one: viewtopic.php?t=203076. <...>
I'm not sure where to respond, if it should be here or on this viewtopic.php?t=203076 thread.
I have also tried some different antennas i had lying around, with no luck. Maybe i can help with providing some logs or data?