Needed to point to point link, the Kitchen to the Bell Tower at an outdoor event space.

wAP 60G AP near the top of the tower. Aimed around the Haunted Forest Jack-O-Lantern. Fed by A PowerBoxPro
wAP 60G mounted on the ease and routed to a PowerPoxPro. Which feeds the XV2-2T mounted on the other side of the Kitchen.

Distance between both unit is ~160 Meters. (Google Maps is pretty spot on.)
PHY 2.3G
Signal -66

Maxed out the 300Megs of the WAN with ease.

Very nice setup. Send it over to marketing@mikrotik.com for a MikroTik Merch coupon

Follow up pics.

Now paint the antennas black or the same color as the wood.

Sweet! Good proof of concept for any one here thinking of something similar. LIke the fact that the one at the 'house' is somewhat protected from the elements as well.
Reminder to me that the beam is fairly focused near each device and thus clearance is not a big issue as opposed to halfway between the two devices.

Question>
(1) Why wAP 60 and wAP 60G AP?
Vice getting a wireless wire kit ??? ( assuming kit is a pre-configged wireless link with two wAP 60G AP devices ?? )

(2) Finally what ruled out the better WW Cube Pro
(longer ranges, more versatile and with 5ghz backup)

(2) Finally what ruled out the better WW Cube Pro
(longer ranges, more versatile and with 5ghz backup)

Cube 60 Pro WATER DANGER viewtopic.php?t=189614

installation distance 160 m

Suggested for up to 200 m distance:
WAP 60 G $114
WAP 60 G AP $139
The difference between the two above should be only the L3 or L4 license?

WAP 60 Wireless Wire kit $228 (this is a kit with two 60 G, so L3)
Each device is 5W, can be powered by PoE or DC jack.

Suggested for up to 2-2.4 km distance
Cube 60Pro ac $149
Wireless Wire Cube Pro $298
Each device is 10 W, power is PoE only.

Being cheap, I see between 45 and 70 reasons for choosing the Wap60, not counting electrical power consumption (that in the long run sums up).

Can you share the result during rain or fog?

Each device is 10 W, power is PoE only.

keep in mind that that is consumption under full load - fully saturated all interfaces wifi,60GHz and Ethernet, if 5GHz wireless is disabled consumption is equal.

keep in mind that that is consumption under full load - fully saturated all interfaces wifi,60GHz and Ethernet, if 5GHz wireless is disabled consumption is equal.

Good to know, thanks, but in normal operation is 5 GHz completely disabled or - since it is a (useful BTW) sort of failover link - it is in a sort of standby mode (thus consuming anyway some power)?
From experience with other devices in "normal operation" devices consume anyway much less that the max power stated on specs, so it is not that much a concern, but I thought that if one device "needs" 5 W to reach "up to 200 m" a device capable of "up to 2 km" (or "up to 2,4 km") would have needed more power.
If we measure Watt/link distance in m, the Wap comes then out as highly inefficient when compared to the Cube.

Good to know, thanks, but in normal operation is 5 GHz completely disabled or - since it is a (useful BTW) sort of failover link - it is in a sort of standby mode (thus consuming anyway some power)?
From experience with other devices in "normal operation" devices consume anyway much less that the max power stated on specs, so it is not that much a concern, but I thought that if one device "needs" 5 W to reach "up to 200 m" a device capable of "up to 2 km" (or "up to 2,4 km") would have needed more power.
If we measure Watt/link distance in m, the Wap comes then out as highly inefficient when compared to the Cube.

I doubt that you'd observe a noticeable difference in power consumption from closer vs. further radios. In 60GHz, you want every last bit of signal you can get. The power consumption would more likely come from the CPU processing the packets. I also haven't noticed if disabling the WiFi card (5GHz) in the Cubes has any noticeable effect on power consumption.

That said, on Ubiquiti Qualcomm-based radios (AF60HD/XG), I've seen the transmitter adjust power until the RSSI at each end is -60dB (they climb to -40's during alignment mode). On the MikroTik radios, I've not observed such behavior, but I've also not seen power levels above the -50's in most of my installations.

If we measure Watt/link distance in m, the Wap comes then out as highly inefficient when compared to the Cube.

Distances increase are achieved by using passive antenna parts - "longer distance" CUBE devices uses dielectric lenses, LHG series uses prime focus dish antenna, nRAY sub-reflector and dish.
If signal is over saturated or device overheats there are some power adjustments in place that decreases a bit of power, but this will be hard to measure in total power consumption.
Devices are very power efficient.

without any traffic with both 60GHz and 5GHz interfaces active:5.7W
If i disable 5GHz wireless i get 5.5W

Jaclaz and llamajaja

The sender may need to be multipoint at some point.

Ergo... No wireless wire.

The 5GHZ radio on the cube pro would not be needed at this distance and I am trying to clean up the 5Ghz airspace. Not add more things.

Jaclaz and llamajaja

The sender may need to be multipoint at some point.

Ergo... No wireless wire.

I didn't criticize at all your choice of devices, it wasn't me, it was the other kid .

There is a coverage issue off to the right in the midway. The idea was move the AP off the DJ booth down to Grill. Would need to link back to the tower... Ergo PtMP.

That is the kind of logic I was looking for.

Ease of setup vs Range vs Backup(5Ghz) vs X-factor ( I had not thought of PTMP in the requirments ).

On top of that is the questionable design and quality control of one of the potential options being in the toilet was not expected.

Thanks Gotsprings, great pics, can almost see you wearing a straw hat and playing a banjo.

Looking at anav...

"This one's got a purty little mouth."

Now paint the antennas black or the same color as the wood.

well they were covered in soot at one point.

Terrible news. It was a nice looking structure.
Why did it start burning? Did you find out?

Terrible news. It was a nice looking structure.
Why did it start burning? Did you find out?

The fire actually happened before I got the PtP link up.

The Bell Tower is the center for a Halloween Attraction. So it was up since October of 2023.

I was tasked with brining the higher speed connection to the Kitchen area for the start of summer. As I was waiting for all my parts to show up I got a message from the owners about... "Might need to hold off on that Link Thing..."

They sent me a picture of the roof starting to burn and the attraction lights had just fallen.

They actually used wifi calling to call 911. I was watching the connections to the Cellular Handoffs. And as the firefighters were hosing down the structure... The WiFi kept working. The fiber optics and switch are in an outdoor box and kept working until someone threw the breakers... After the fire was out.

If you look at pictures in my second post .. you can see the new parts of the structure.

After the fire was out... A hot piece of shingle hit the top of one of the 2 access points. It made a small hole. Which eventually let water get in and kill it. So one of those BMFAPs had to be replaced.

The fire... During the Halloween performances... There are 3 bonfires around the mid way. There are several fire extinguishers spaced around the midway. This was the off season. One of the farm staff used one of the burn pits... And a stray ember went into the top of the bell tower.

The other manufacturer thought it was great when I said,
"F--k your Bullet Proof Wifi! We've got FIRE PROOF WiFi!"

Which eventually became "Blazing Fast Wifi". So they wrote up something on their site about it.

Someone else asked how the connection did in weather.

Logged in the other day during server thunderstorms with heavy downpour.

PHY showed 300 something. Went right back to 2.3G once the storms stopped.

Excellent work gotsprings -- very HOT install

I have the Cube60G's in production for a customer, very similar distance. I will need to login to get RSSI and link info again [been awhile]. Numerous heavy rain storms and winter here in Upstate NY.

Question: On the usage of the Mikrotik QMP mount... what did you use for the pipe section to attach the wAP60? Did you cut a piece of pipe and attach, or you combining the QMP with QM bracket??

The part that came with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGG9UAmj6R0

Taking advantage of the software license...

Added another wAP 60G to the MidWay. Let me move the WiFi Access point to the North End where it has clean shot to one structure that was partially obstructed last year.

Despite being farther away from the AP... The straight line to the AP make a big difference in connectivity.

Looking to add another building on the property to the network... We ran a wAP 60G AP up the side of the barn.

A power failure as I set up a wAP 60 on the receiving side... bricked the device.

Had a 60G Cube in my car. Harder to aim considering the sun had set and we could no longer see the barn.

Matt hit the unit first try, and we are maxing out the 500M link.

WiFi calling is solid.