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hAP ax3 - Low Wireless Strength

Tue Jun 18, 2024 7:02 pm

Hey guys and gals .

The issue I am having is , the house behind me ( no more then 200ft away ) is receiving a very low signal -70 dBm -90 dBm at best on both 2.4ghz / 5ghz band .

I have reviewed several postings pertaining to signal strength. As well as reviewing the MikroTik online manual. In attempts to " stretch my connection " to atleast 55-70 dBm.

I'm hoping sharing my configuration someone might see something I don't :lol:

Moving the router / antennas around has helped a little. I've also switched to " bigger " 9dBm antennas .

This is my first MikroTik router . Any input is appreciated
export compact 
# 2024-06-18 10:58:06 by RouterOS 7.14.3
# software id = F912-AQ52
#
# model = RBD53iG-5HacD2HnD
# serial number = F34E0F0A1BF2
/interface bridge
add admin-mac=DC:2C:6E:5A:56:A8 auto-mac=no comment=defconf name=bridge port-cost-mode=short
add name=bridge2 port-cost-mode=short
/interface ethernet
set [ find default-name=ether1 ] rx-flow-control=auto tx-flow-control=auto
set [ find default-name=ether2 ] rx-flow-control=on tx-flow-control=on
set [ find default-name=ether3 ] rx-flow-control=auto tx-flow-control=auto
set [ find default-name=ether4 ] rx-flow-control=auto tx-flow-control=auto
set [ find default-name=ether5 ] rx-flow-control=on tx-flow-control=on
/interface list
add comment=defconf name=WAN
add comment=defconf name=LAN
/interface lte apn
set [ find default=yes ] ip-type=ipv4 use-network-apn=no
/interface wireless security-profiles
set [ find default=yes ] supplicant-identity=MikroTik
add authentication-types=wpa2-psk mode=dynamic-keys name=wpa2 supplicant-identity=MikroTik
/interface wireless
set [ find default-name=wlan1 ] adaptive-noise-immunity=ap-and-client-mode antenna-gain=1 band=2ghz-b/g/n \
    country="united states3" disabled=no installation=indoor mode=ap-bridge security-profile=wpa2 ssid=\
    homenet2 wireless-protocol=802.11
set [ find default-name=wlan2 ] adaptive-noise-immunity=ap-and-client-mode antenna-gain=0 band=5ghz-a/n/ac \
    channel-width=20/40/80mhz-XXXX disabled=no distance=indoors frequency=auto mode=ap-bridge \
    security-profile=wpa2 ssid=homenet5 wireless-protocol=802.11
/ip pool
add name=default-dhcp ranges=192.168.88.10-192.168.88.254
add name=wired-pool ranges=10.0.0.2-10.0.0.254
/ip dhcp-server
add address-pool=wired-pool interface=bridge2 lease-time=10m name=dhcp2
/ip smb users
set [ find default=yes ] disabled=yes
/queue tree
add disabled=yes name=eth-cakewalk parent=ether2
/queue type
add kind=cake name=cakekind
add kind=pcq name=download-test-pcq
add kind=fq-codel name=fq-codel
/queue interface
set ether2 queue=cakekind
set ether3 queue=cakekind
set wlan1 queue=cakekind
set wlan2 queue=cakekind
/queue simple
add max-limit=10M/300M name=openthrottle queue=cakekind/cakekind target=wlan2 total-queue=cakekind
add max-limit=5M/300M name=cake queue=cakekind/cakekind target=wlan1 total-queue=cakekind
add max-limit=50M/300M name=bufferbloat-test-cake queue=cakekind/cakekind target=ether2 total-queue=\
    cakekind
add disabled=yes name=xbox- queue=cakekind/cakekind target=ether3 total-queue=cakekind
/ip dhcp-server
add address-pool=default-dhcp insert-queue-before=cake interface=bridge lease-time=10m name=defconfdhcp1
/queue tree
add disabled=yes name=queue1-fq-ocodel parent=wlan2 queue=fq-codel
add disabled=yes name=wlan2-cakewalk parent=wlan1 queue=cakekind
add disabled=yes name=global-que parent=global queue=fq-codel
/snmp community
set [ find default=yes ] addresses=0.0.0.0/0 authentication-protocol=SHA1 encryption-protocol=AES security=\
    private write-access=yes
add addresses=::/0 disabled=yes name=PRTG
/system logging action
set 3 remote=10.0.0.2
/interface bridge port
add bridge=bridge2 comment=defconf ingress-filtering=no interface=ether2 internal-path-cost=10 path-cost=10
add bridge=bridge comment=defconf ingress-filtering=no interface=ether3 internal-path-cost=10 path-cost=10
add bridge=bridge comment=defconf ingress-filtering=no interface=ether4 internal-path-cost=10 path-cost=10
add bridge=bridge comment=defconf ingress-filtering=no interface=ether5 internal-path-cost=10 path-cost=10
add bridge=bridge comment=defconf ingress-filtering=no interface=wlan1 internal-path-cost=10 path-cost=10
add bridge=bridge comment=defconf ingress-filtering=no interface=wlan2 internal-path-cost=10 path-cost=10
/interface bridge settings
set use-ip-firewall=yes
/ip firewall connection tracking
set udp-timeout=10s
/ip neighbor discovery-settings
set discover-interface-list=LAN
/ipv6 settings
set disable-ipv6=yes max-neighbor-entries=8192
/interface detect-internet
set detect-interface-list=all internet-interface-list=all lan-interface-list=all
/interface list member
add comment=defconf interface=bridge list=LAN
add comment=defconf interface=ether1 list=WAN
add comment=defconf2 interface=bridge2 list=LAN
/interface ovpn-server server
set auth=sha1,md5
/ip address
add address=192.168.88.1/24 comment=defconf interface=bridge network=192.168.88.0
add address=10.0.0.1/24 comment=hardwiredpcs interface=bridge2 network=10.0.0.0
/ip dhcp-client
add comment=defconf interface=ether1
/ip dhcp-server lease
add address=192.168.88.240 client-id=1:d8:e2:df:19:c3:9f mac-address=D8:E2:DF:19:C3:9F server=defconfdhcp1
/ip dhcp-server network
add address=10.0.0.0/24 comment=wiredpcsnet gateway=10.0.0.1 netmask=24
add address=192.168.88.0/24 comment=defconf gateway=192.168.88.1
/ip dns
set allow-remote-requests=yes servers=8.8.8.8,8.8.4.4
/ip dns static
add address=192.168.88.1 comment=defconf name=router.lan
/ip firewall filter
add action=accept chain=input comment="defconf: accept established,related,untracked" connection-state=\
    established,related,untracked
add action=drop chain=input comment="defconf: drop invalid" connection-state=invalid
add action=accept chain=input comment="defconf: accept ICMP" protocol=icmp
add action=accept chain=input comment="defconf: accept to local loopback (for CAPsMAN)" dst-address=\
    127.0.0.1
add action=drop chain=input comment="defconf: drop all not coming from LAN" in-interface-list=!LAN
add action=accept chain=forward comment="defconf: accept in ipsec policy" ipsec-policy=in,ipsec
add action=accept chain=forward comment="defconf: accept out ipsec policy" ipsec-policy=out,ipsec
add action=fasttrack-connection chain=forward comment="defconf: fasttrack" connection-state=\
    established,related hw-offload=yes
add action=accept chain=forward comment="defconf: accept established,related, untracked" connection-state=\
    established,related,untracked
add action=drop chain=forward comment="defconf: drop invalid" connection-state=invalid
add action=drop chain=forward comment="defconf: drop all from WAN not DSTNATed" connection-nat-state=\
    !dstnat connection-state=new in-interface-list=WAN
/ip firewall nat
add action=masquerade chain=srcnat comment="defconf: masquerade" ipsec-policy=out,none out-interface-list=\
    WAN
/ip service
set ssh disabled=yes
set www-ssl disabled=no
/ip smb shares
set [ find default=yes ] directory=/pub
/ip traffic-flow
set active-flow-timeout=1m enabled=yes interfaces=wlan2
/ip traffic-flow target
add dst-address=10.0.0.2 v9-template-refresh=30 v9-template-timeout=30s version=ipfix
/routing bfd configuration
add disabled=no
/snmp
set contact=*****@gmail.com enabled=yes location=Kansas trap-version=3
/system clock
set time-zone-name=America/Chicago
/system identity
set name=RouterOS
/system leds
set 4 interface=wlan2 type=interface-status
set 5 interface=wlan2 type=wireless-signal-strength
/system note
set show-at-login=no
/tool graphing interface
add
/tool graphing queue
add
/tool graphing resource
add
/tool mac-server
set allowed-interface-list=LAN
/tool mac-server mac-winbox
set allowed-interface-list=LAN
/tool traffic-monitor
add interface=bridge name=trafficmon
 
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Re: hAP ax3 - Low Wireless Strength

Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:18 pm

If you use 9 dBi antennas, you need to set antenna gain to 9 otherwise what you are doing is illegal.
If you don't want make a cable run, create a PtP link between the two houses using directional antennas and then use an AP at the other house.
Buy two SXTsq Lite5 for the PtP link and configure them to use nstreme protocol for stable latency figures (good for VoIP, real time video and gaming), or 802.11 for maximum throughput.

SXTsq Lite5 : https://mikrotik.com/product/RBSXTsq5nD

Don't forget to set antenna gain to 16 dBi.

At the other house install a hAP ac lite, which has PoE-out that can power the SXTsq.

https://mikrotik.com/product/RB952Ui-5ac2nD
 
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Re: hAP ax3 - Low Wireless Strength

Wed Sep 11, 2024 1:04 pm

Any input is appreciated
How can an hAP ax3 have WLAN interfaces? I expected wifi.
Well the config tells me it is an hAP ac3

There are some options ...

Check carefully what power the different freq channels are allowed for. This is Country setting dependent !!!
Set a strong channel, don't let "auto" freely define the channel.
In Europe indoor freqencies have a much lower allowed power (20dBm) than outdoor channels (23dBm or even 27dBm).

Your device may be physically indoors, but you are allowed to use outdoor frequencies there.
If there is a sticker on the device "indoor use only", that is because it can carry indoor frequencies which are forbidden to be used outdoors.
Freq channels are (indoor only) or (outdoor also). "Outdoor only" is a Mikrotik abberation, (comes from earlier fixed installation licensed frequencies? They became unlicensed ...)

On hAP ac3 you have the wireless drivers (WLAN interface), but can also install the package for the wifi drivers instead (wifi interface) higher ROS version than 7.12.1
Package name is wifi-qcom-ac. They are quite different !!


country startfreq endfreq power modes dfs passive indoor outdoor

united states2 2402 2472 30 b,g,gn20,gn40
united states2 5170 5250 17 a,an20,an40,ac20,ac40,ac80,ac160,ac80+80 i
united states2 5250 5330 23 a,an20,an40,ac20,ac40,ac80,ac160,ac80+80 d p
united states2 5490 5590 23 a,an20,an40,ac20,ac40,ac80,ac160,ac80+80 d p
united states2 5650 5730 23 a,an20,an40,ac20,ac40,ac80,ac160,ac80+80 d p
united states2 5735 5835 30 a,an20,an40,ac20,ac40,ac80,ac160,ac80+80 o


The WLAN drivers are certified for non-TPC limits, while the wifi drivers are certified for TPC limts. (non-TPC is typically 3dB lower than TPC)
Last edited by bpwl on Wed Sep 11, 2024 3:42 pm, edited 3 times in total.
 
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Re: hAP ax3 - Low Wireless Strength

Wed Sep 11, 2024 1:07 pm

Any input is appreciated
How can an hAP ax3 have WLAN interfaces? I expected wifi.
Well the config tells me it is an hAP ac3
Model number was also a clear indication :lol:
RBD53iG-5HacD2HnD = hAP AC3
 
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Re: hAP ax3 - Low Wireless Strength

Wed Sep 11, 2024 1:31 pm

That's indeed how the config told me .
 
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Re: hAP ax3 - Low Wireless Strength

Wed Sep 11, 2024 2:57 pm

RBD53iG-5HacD2HnD = hAP AC3

How to tell a Mikrotik nerd from normal people: the former can recite product codes together with their marketing model names :wink: (while the later have to use their favourite internet search engine)
 
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Re: hAP ax3 - Low Wireless Strength

Wed Sep 11, 2024 3:40 pm

OK had to look it up. Be carefull with the fast (sponsored) answer of the Google (AI based?) search. :?
 
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Re: hAP ax3 - Low Wireless Strength

Wed Sep 11, 2024 10:25 pm

Be carefull with the fast (sponsored) answer of the Google (AI based?) search. :?
Gosh ... doesn't everybody (and their favourite pet) skip top results from search engines?

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