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rushlife
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hAP ac , poe, RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT

Thu Jan 18, 2024 4:46 pm

Hi, do anybody know something about POE (in/out) with this unit ?

Official website have listed there informations :
PoE in input Voltage 11-57 V

My RB5009 with 48V power supply thinks differently (according to my log) :
ether5 detected poe-out status: voltage_too_high


So where is the truth ?
 
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Re: hAP ac , poe, RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT

Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:44 pm

Hmmm, not sure if RB5009 can output 48V when device on the other end is passive PoE and not 802.3 af/at which is the case with hAP ac.

Auto negotiation fails and you get error message you see here.

EDIT: Checked right now, RB5009 only outputs 802.3 at/af. Only thing that comes to my mind now is to force poe on if possible but then you really need to be careful what are you plugging in to that port.
 
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Re: hAP ac , poe, RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT

Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:26 pm

thx for you answer bro, forced POE scares me....
 
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Re: hAP ac , poe, RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT

Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:36 pm

With hAP ac there shouldn't be any problem.
 
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Re: hAP ac , poe, RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT

Mon Mar 11, 2024 12:55 pm

Hi, rushlife!
I'd like to reproduce the same setup as in your case: turn my current hAP ac into Wi-Fi access point only and buy RB5009UPr to use it as a main home router. hAP ac I want to power using PoE. So could you please answer:
1. Did you succeeded powering hAP ac from your RB5009 by PoE with 5009's 48V power supply?
2. Did you overcome fear with forced PoE or found other solution (for example, use PoE-splitter or lower-voltage power supply for RB5009)?
 
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Re: hAP ac , poe, RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT

Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:36 pm

Unfortunately, no, this setup is not working. After "forced POE" turning on I've got a message about overload on RB5009. Message was:
ether3-POE detected poe-out status: overload
That is strange, as for RB5009UPr with default power supply (49.4V by system health) and specification record:
Max out per port output (input 30-57 V) 440 mA
I should have 49.4*0.440=21.7W output per port. Maximum power consumption for hAP ac is 17W, so there should be no any overload. But still it's here :(
 
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Re: hAP ac , poe, RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT

Sun Mar 17, 2024 5:11 pm

Unfortunately, no, this setup is not working.
How long are UTP cables between RB5009 and powered devices?
 
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Re: hAP ac , poe, RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT

Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:20 pm

Hi, mkx!
The cable is about 20 meters long. One cable side is connected directly to RB5009, another side is RJ45 wall socket. Plus one-meter cable from wall socket to hAP ac.
 
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Re: hAP ac , poe, RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT

Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:14 am

20m long cables should not kill PoE .... but at these lengths losses are not negligible. Voltage, available at power receiver's side will be lower, which means that receiver will draw higher current (to fulfill power budget requirements). And this in turn means that PSE (power provider) has to provide (significantly) more power than powered device draws. This is where simple power calculations fail.
 
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Re: hAP ac , poe, RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT

Thu Mar 21, 2024 7:03 pm

mkx, thank you for the reply!
I've also got a reply from MikroTik support. They answered that overload messages when using forced-on PoE mode is an issue, that will be fixed in one of the upcoming RouterOS versions.
 
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Re: hAP ac , poe, RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT

Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:52 pm

I recently got an RB5009UPr+S+IN to replace my hAp ac.
It seems like Rb5009 is able to power the hAP ac if you select to POE out: forced on. Also use the first port (POE in) on hAP ac.

I will set hAP ac as wifi access point and RB5009 as main router.
 
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Re: hAP ac , poe, RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT

Tue Oct 08, 2024 10:26 pm

Hi,
my RB5009UPr+S+ powered with 24V power supply.
SystemHealth.png
To Ether7 port via 3 m. UTP cable connected HAP_ac and all works with auto, no need "force on".
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From HAP_ac side:
hapac.png
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Re: hAP ac , poe, RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT

Sat Oct 12, 2024 4:42 pm

Mine looks like this:

RB5009UPr+S+ powered with his own power brick (48V 2A).
I have also two IP cameras connected using POE out:
Screenshot 2024-10-12 163101.png
And from RB5009 port 3 to POE IN at hAP ac with POE "forced on":
Screenshot 2024-10-12 163135.png
hAP ac:
Screenshot 2024-10-12 163223.png
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