Is it going to have dual SIMs? It's annoying there are no ARM devices with dual SIM support.
Is it going to have dual SIMs? It's annoying there are no ARM devices with dual SIM support.
wAP R ax, ww2 - tmp
"data+power"=11111
"WinBox"=22222
"Neighbors"=33333
QuickSet=44444
"admin"=55555
"WinBox Files"=77777
"QuickSet"=88888
"/System/Resources"=99999
EN - English - Quick Guide:
First steps:
Make sure your ISP allows hardware change and will issue an automatic IP address;
Open the bottom lid;
Connect the device to the included PoE injector with an Ethernet cable to the 11111 end;
Connect the data end of the PoE injector to the computer;
Connect the power adapter to the PoE injector;
Navigate to the network connections section on your computer and locate the wireless network named "MikroTik-...". Proceed to connect to it (check the wireless passwords on the sticker);
Configuration should be made via a wireless network using a mobile application or you can use the 22222 configuration tool https://mt.lv/winbox;
Download and open 22222, and choose the 33333 tab to find the device;
Click on the MAC address. The username is 55555 and there is no password (or, for some models, check user and wireless passwords on the sticker);
For a manual update of the device, visit https://mikrotik.com/download;
Select architecture based on your device model under 99999 and download the latest packages (routeros-x.x-x.npk, wifiwave2-x.x-x.npk) for this device and download them onto your PC;
Upload downloaded packages to the 77777 menu and reboot the device. By upgrading your RouterOS software to the latest version, you can ensure optimal performance, stability, and security updates;
In the 88888 menu set up the following: Choose your country, to apply country regulation settings;
Set up your wireless network password in the left field;
Set up your router password in the bottom field.
Yeah that page requires a login.On that page.....Is it going to have dual SIMs? It's annoying there are no ARM devices with dual SIM support.
I think the chip will make it hot enough to withstand low temperatures.And, freezing temperatures, such as -32°C?
Hopefully comes soon. I'm positively excited about WifiWave2, as 802.11k/v/r fast roaming works great.
I think the chip will make it hot enough to withstand low temperatures.And, freezing temperatures, such as -32°C?
Hi!On one side it will make sure current owners of wap AC have no real incentive anymore to move towards AX. Potential missed sales.
On the other hand, since wAP AX is not yet available, it does bridge a gap until the new device is available (are they buying time, perhaps ?).
I have the impression with the release of 7.13beta and the wave2 ac-drivers, MT shot a bit in their own foot.
On one side it will make sure current owners of wap AC have no real incentive anymore to move towards AX. Potential missed sales.
Additionally, it shows, that MikroTik cares about users. And, rather makes things better over time, than going with "planned obsolescence" approach to force new sales. I love this move.
Have to resurrect this old thread. I was looking for MT , with at least AC access point speed, with outdoor enclosure and poe in af/at support. Only thing that I could find was WAP AC and it's is discontinued. Really hope we get AX version soon, was planning on installing AP to my garage wall next summer.
Perhaps, but it's "brother" with miniPCIe is marked as discontinued (https://mikrotik.com/product/wap_r_ac)wAP ac is not discontinued
I would not recommend the wAP AC. I have the "refreshed" ARM version with 128mb, running 7.14, with wifi-qcom-ac (so that I can use WPA3) and nothing else -- no routing, no firewall, no additional packages -- and it reboots several times a day due to OOMs. Seems that the 128mb devices are not actually usable with the modern wifi packages.Amazon has the wAP AC for $90
Thank you for offering to take a look, @erlinden!Would really like to see your config, @mag1024.
# 2024-05-13 15:31:43 by RouterOS 7.14.3
# software id = S32L-8MSK
#
# model = RBwAPG-5HacD2HnD
# serial number = xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
/interface bridge
add admin-mac=18:FD:74:B5:A1:B0 auto-mac=no comment=defconf frame-types=\
admit-only-vlan-tagged mtu=1500 name=br-trunk port-cost-mode=short \
vlan-filtering=yes
/interface ethernet
set [ find default-name=ether1 ] l2mtu=9014 mtu=9000
/interface vlan
add interface=br-trunk name=vlan-mgmt vlan-id=99
/interface list
add comment=defconf name=WAN
add comment=defconf name=LAN
/interface lte apn
set [ find default=yes ] ip-type=ipv4 use-network-apn=no
/interface macsec
add ckn=XXX disabled=no interface=ether1 mtu=\
1500 name=macsec1 profile=default
/interface wifi channel
add band=2ghz-n disabled=no name=2g
add band=5ghz-ac disabled=no name=5g
/interface wifi configuration
add disabled=no mode=ap name=DMZ security.connect-priority=0 ssid=xxxxxxDMZ
add disabled=no name=LAN security.connect-priority=0 ssid=xxxxxx
/interface wifi security
add authentication-types=wpa3-psk connect-priority=0 disabled=no encryption=\
ccmp,gcmp,ccmp-256,gcmp-256 name=wpa3
/interface wifi
set [ find default-name=wifi1 ] channel=2g configuration=DMZ \
configuration.mode=ap disabled=no name=wifi2-dmz security=wpa3 \
security.connect-priority=0
add channel=2g configuration=LAN configuration.mode=ap disabled=no \
mac-address=1A:FD:74:B5:A1:B2 master-interface=wifi2-dmz name=wifi2-lan \
security=wpa3 security.connect-priority=0
add configuration.mode=ap .ssid=xxxxxxNOT disabled=no mac-address=\
1A:FD:74:B5:A1:B1 master-interface=wifi2-dmz name=wifi2-not \
security.authentication-types=wpa2-psk,wpa3-psk .connect-priority=0
set [ find default-name=wifi2 ] channel=5g configuration=DMZ \
configuration.mode=ap disabled=no name=wifi5-dmz security=wpa3 \
security.connect-priority=0
add channel=5g configuration=LAN configuration.mode=ap disabled=no \
mac-address=1A:FD:74:B5:A1:B3 master-interface=wifi5-dmz name=wifi5-lan \
security=wpa3 security.connect-priority=0
/ip hotspot profile
set [ find default=yes ] html-directory=hotspot
/ip pool
add name=dhcp ranges=192.168.88.10-192.168.88.254
/ip smb users
set [ find default=yes ] disabled=yes
/interface bridge port
add bridge=br-trunk frame-types=admit-only-untagged-and-priority-tagged \
interface=wifi2-dmz internal-path-cost=10 path-cost=10 pvid=12
add bridge=br-trunk frame-types=admit-only-untagged-and-priority-tagged \
interface=wifi5-dmz internal-path-cost=10 path-cost=10 pvid=12
add bridge=br-trunk frame-types=admit-only-vlan-tagged interface=macsec1 \
internal-path-cost=10 path-cost=10
add bridge=br-trunk frame-types=admit-only-untagged-and-priority-tagged \
interface=wifi2-lan internal-path-cost=10 path-cost=10 pvid=10
add bridge=br-trunk frame-types=admit-only-untagged-and-priority-tagged \
interface=wifi5-lan internal-path-cost=10 path-cost=10 pvid=10
add bridge=br-trunk frame-types=admit-only-untagged-and-priority-tagged \
interface=wifi2-not pvid=15
/ip firewall connection tracking
set enabled=no udp-timeout=10s
/ip neighbor discovery-settings
set discover-interface-list=LAN
/ip settings
set max-neighbor-entries=8192
/ipv6 settings
set disable-ipv6=yes max-neighbor-entries=8192
/interface bridge vlan
add bridge=br-trunk tagged=br-trunk,macsec1 vlan-ids=99
add bridge=br-trunk tagged=br-trunk,macsec1 untagged=*1,*2 vlan-ids=12
add bridge=br-trunk tagged=br-trunk,macsec1 untagged=*A,*B vlan-ids=10
add bridge=br-trunk tagged=br-trunk,macsec1 untagged=*C vlan-ids=15
add bridge=br-trunk tagged=macsec1,br-trunk vlan-ids=11
/interface list member
add comment=defconf disabled=yes interface=br-trunk list=LAN
add comment=defconf disabled=yes interface=ether1 list=WAN
add disabled=yes interface=ether1 list=LAN
add interface=ether2 list=LAN
add interface=vlan-mgmt list=LAN
/interface ovpn-server server
set auth=sha1,md5
/ip address
add address=192.168.88.1/24 interface=ether2 network=192.168.88.0
/ip dhcp-client
add interface=vlan-mgmt
add disabled=yes interface=ether2
add add-default-route=no interface=*D use-peer-dns=no use-peer-ntp=no
/ip dns
set allow-remote-requests=yes
/ip dns static
add address=192.168.88.1 comment=defconf name=router.lan
/ip firewall filter
# connection state matcher not possible when connection tracking is disabled
add action=accept chain=input comment=\
"defconf: accept established,related,untracked" connection-state=\
established,related,untracked
# connection state matcher not possible when connection tracking is disabled
add action=drop chain=input comment="defconf: drop invalid" connection-state=\
invalid log=yes log-prefix=inv
add action=accept chain=input comment="defconf: accept ICMP" protocol=icmp
add action=accept chain=input comment=\
"defconf: accept to local loopback (for CAPsMAN)" dst-address=127.0.0.1
add action=drop chain=input comment="defconf: drop all not coming from LAN" \
in-interface-list=!LAN
add action=accept chain=forward comment="defconf: accept in ipsec policy" \
ipsec-policy=in,ipsec
add action=accept chain=forward comment="defconf: accept out ipsec policy" \
ipsec-policy=out,ipsec
# connection state matcher not possible when connection tracking is disabled
add action=fasttrack-connection chain=forward comment="defconf: fasttrack" \
connection-state=established,related hw-offload=yes
# connection state matcher not possible when connection tracking is disabled
add action=accept chain=forward comment=\
"defconf: accept established,related, untracked" connection-state=\
established,related,untracked
# connection state matcher not possible when connection tracking is disabled
add action=drop chain=forward comment="defconf: drop invalid" \
connection-state=invalid
# connection state matcher not possible when connection tracking is disabled
# connection nat state matcher not possible when connection tracking is disabled
add action=drop chain=forward comment=\
"defconf: drop all from WAN not DSTNATed" connection-nat-state=!dstnat \
connection-state=new in-interface-list=WAN
/ip firewall nat
add action=masquerade chain=srcnat comment="defconf: masquerade" disabled=yes \
ipsec-policy=out,none out-interface-list=WAN
/ip firewall service-port
set ftp disabled=yes
set tftp disabled=yes
set h323 disabled=yes
set sip disabled=yes
set pptp disabled=yes
/ip smb shares
set [ find default=yes ] directory=/flash/pub
/routing bfd configuration
add disabled=no
/snmp
set enabled=yes trap-version=2
/system clock
set time-zone-name=America/New_York
/system identity
set name=wap-ac
/system note
set show-at-login=no
/system ntp client
set enabled=yes
/system ntp client servers
add address=10.0.0.1
2024-05-12 18:38:46 system,error,critical kernel failure in previous boot
2024-05-12 18:38:46 system,error,critical out of memory condition was detected
2024-05-13 04:17:10 system,critical,info ntp change time May/12/2024 18:39:32 => May/13/2024 04:17:10
2024-05-13 14:37:11 dhcp,critical,error dhcp-client on vlan-mgmt lost IP address 10.0.99.9 - lease expired
2024-05-13 04:17:12 system,error,critical router was rebooted without proper shutdown, probably kernel failure
2024-05-13 04:17:13 system,error,critical kernel failure in previous boot
2024-05-13 04:17:13 system,error,critical out of memory condition was detected
2024-05-13 14:57:08 system,critical,info ntp change time May/13/2024 04:17:59 => May/13/2024 14:57:08
Hmm.... I'm not sure I agree with Mikrotik...AX is better than AC....
Count me in but in the mean time I decided to put wap AC on my porch with wifi-qcom-ac drivers.waiting for wAP AX , need do outdoor roaming. Possibly can be done with netmetal AX but not sure because it have 256MB of RAM and full roaming required 1GB.
Getic.com still has them available, 100 pcs. But only EU version. (that's where I got mine)Decided that I'm not going to wait for AX and decided to get AC. But it's sold out on many places and on MT website it shows as discontinued.... So maybe it's coming and maybe, just maybe my garden wifi project will get post poned to next month in hopes of AX model arrival.
Waiting to cover my gym down the garden!Depending on how long you are willing to wait, if wAP ac is really out of stock, maybe it is worth to wait a little more
Ah, you were right. For some reason when I searched on google for wap ac, first search results were for the MIPS version ant that is sold out, but Getic certainly has ARM in stock.Getic.com still has them available, 100 pcs. But only EU version. (that's where I got mine)Decided that I'm not going to wait for AX and decided to get AC. But it's sold out on many places and on MT website it shows as discontinued.... So maybe it's coming and maybe, just maybe my garden wifi project will get post poned to next month in hopes of AX model arrival.
And on MT website ARM version is not discontinued.
MIPSBE version is.
It's the ARM version you want in order to benefit from wave2 drivers.
Thanks -- I did do this, and was told what I already suspected: 128mb is just not realistically enough for wave2 drivers.If something crashes or has out of memory issues, please raise a ticket in our support portal. Make sure you are running the latest v7 release and can repeat the issue.
So yeah, don't buy a WAP AC if you need WAP3 or other wave2-only features.Anything below ~20 MB, especially with the wifi-qcom-ac package, is OOM "territory". As you can see, wifi-qcom AX devices at least have 256 MB of RAM: https://mikrotik.com/product/hap_ax_lite
It is also expected/known that wifi-qcom-ac increases RAM usage, and so there are only 2 ways to make it stop: a) reduce the settings further; b) migrate back to older wireless drivers.
You know where I stand.I am starting to give up hope.
Every few weeks to few months I come back hoping there is some new WiFi AP that isn't the size of an Italian pizza and that works well. but there is nothing. No APs that I feel like installing
Boo
Intrigued what you don't like so much?I am not willing to go back into the UniF--k ecosystem.
The Wifi is better than Tik. But not anywhere near Cambium or Ruckus.Intrigued what you don't like so much?I am not willing to go back into the UniF--k ecosystem.
https://mikrotik.com/product/mantbox_ax_15s
Is this point to point data link only or can this be used as ap?
I have considered other outdoor wifi boxes, but there are unsolved issues with those.
https://mikrotik.com/product/netbox_5_ax this is probably not watertight without top cover so all antennas need to have leads, right? So for example
https://mikrotik.com/product/hgo_antenna_out will not work?
https://mikrotik.com/product/mantbox_ax_15s
Is this point to point data link only or can this be used as ap?
NetMetal AX also exists.I have considered other outdoor wifi boxes, but there are unsolved issues with those.
https://mikrotik.com/product/netbox_5_ax this is probably not watertight without top cover so all antennas need to have leads, right? So for example
https://mikrotik.com/product/hgo_antenna_out will not work?
https://mikrotik.com/product/mantbox_ax_15s
Is this point to point data link only or can this be used as ap?
Netmetal: "If necessary, you can adapt the NetMetal ax for lower range use with such antennas as our HGO-antenna-OUT screw-on omni antenna unit." But the sma connectors are oäbelow of top cover, right? So is it watertight with the antennas attached?NetMetal AX also exists.
Technically, you can use the mantbox as an AP but keep in mind polarization
GOOD NEWS so we are missing only AX Clients now.
These type of devices are meant to be first and foremost - Access Points. It uses same CPU as mANTBox ax 15 and, judging by the test results, it will do more than fine, especially considering the price.So you are going to downgrade to dual core 800MHz from quad-core 1800MHz ?
If memory serves me you didn't have many kind words at the start... lolI actually dont mind the AX3 now, setup is not intuitive and confusing with multiple menus that overlap and interfere with each other but once you stumble across a working config, and dont use capsman, it works well enough.
For developers, used to program object oriented, the menu is actually pretty intuitive. And with CAPsMAN it is actually working pretty well. But those are just my 2 cents.I actually dont mind the AX3 now, setup is not intuitive and confusing with multiple menus that overlap and interfere with each other but once you stumble across a working config, and dont use capsman, it works well enough.
You mean wAP AX I assume? They are constantly improving and releasing new drivers and versions of RouterOS...no doubt it will become better. And I'm already enjoying it daily.Finally, the long awaited cAP AX product. However, lets hope MikroTik can release the needed AX driver improvements on their next ROS release......................
What is SHL, a webshop? I can't find any distributor that has the device available for order.Finally, ordered mine via SHL in Sweden.
Getic will receive stock today/tomorrow, got message from their support.What is SHL, a webshop? I can't find any distributor that has the device available for order.Finally, ordered mine via SHL in Sweden.
Waiting mainly for the Getic to have it in stock, since they also carry the mtik mugs, broke my previous mug and want to order the mug at the same time with the wAP ax
It is Satellithuset (https://www.routerboard.se)What is SHL, a webshop? I can't find any distributor that has the device available for order.Finally, ordered mine via SHL in Sweden.
Waiting mainly for the Getic to have it in stock, since they also carry the mtik mugs, broke my previous mug and want to order the mug at the same time with the wAP ax
Just ordered one wAP ax from Getic a few minutes ago.Getic will receive stock today/tomorrow, got message from their support.
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/shop ... bwOSAmiw5ggetic don't have any with a UK plug, my distributer will have them in stock in 1-2 weeks so they say
Well, wap ax, as other MT devices, can be powered in so many ways. The worst case is as mentioned a post before - use EU to UK adopter.getic don't have any with a UK plug, my distributer will have them in stock in 1-2 weeks so they say
Thanks good to know for future purchases, when I googled SHL all I found was swededn hockey league. Ordered mine from Getic last night, was probably 2nd to buy it after infabo, since they had 599/600 stock when I placed order. Will receive it tomorrow or friday, will report back how well it performs.It is Satellithuset (https://www.routerboard.se)
Stock was 600 when I ordered mine. Grats!Ordered mine from Getic last night, was probably 2nd to buy it after infabo, since they had 599/600 stock when I placed order
As mine arrives only next Tuesday I am curious for your first hand experience.Will receive it tomorrow or friday, will report back how well it performs.
7.17beta4
iperf3 -c server.local -P 5 -t 30 -R
TX power max per regulatory domain, will vary per ch. Tested on multiple chs.
AP around 2m away from STA. STA uses Intel AX210 wlan card whit not that powerful integraded laptop antenas, Fedora linux.
wifi speed tests:
2.4, 20mhz - 150
Power draw: 7w sending
5ghz, 160mhz - avg 800-900, peaks 920 (tops out 1G interface). 70% CPU load , both cores, icq about the same.
5ghz, 80mhz - avg 600-700, peaks 800.
Power draw: 8w sending on widest ch
Power draw idle: 5w
As CPU is limited I dont expect much, there is no switch chip afaik, so there is no way to hw offload it.Be nice to see what it does with the 2 ports bonded together ?
Indeed, if not all outdoor ax lineup is based on the same hw design. So base performance/features will be the same, only difference will be signal strength as antenna gain changes. That will impact throughput to a degree and range.AX devices released this year all seem to have 256MB RAM and these IPQ-50xx boards.
interface/wifi/radio/reg-info country="United Kingdom" 0
Another question if i may, what is the output from the following please.Code: Select allinterface/wifi/radio/reg-info country="United Kingdom" 0
I'm curious how ZeroTier does on these. The IPQ-40xx in older ac wAP did always seem like a stretch with ZeroTier installed (beyond fitting in 16MB, noticeable on CPU/mem/flows).AX devices released this year all seem to have 256MB RAM and these IPQ-50xx boards.
64-bit mean memory addressing. So with 256MB of RAM... you can use up more memory storing 64-bit "pointers" when 32-bit would do.On AX Lite it is the same.
64-bit processor with 32-bit OS
No, this is classical lack of quality assurance.Such actions can be classified as
“Lack of reliable information about the product” or ”Providing false information about the product.”
It sounds irrelevant, but in case you add LTE or hopefully in the future 5G, it will start making sense.As an AP, bridging is more than adequate and the routing test results don't really matter much as difference isn't that significant anyway. It's only relevant if you're planning to use the AP as your main router.
Thanks for your testsOverall comparing to hap ax3 and cap ax I did feel less powerful antennas, but as you can see, drop is not that much (hap ax3/cap ax pushed about 100mbps more on 80mhz wide ch overall). Otherwise resources are tighter than hap ax3/cap ax, but should not be a problem as this device is meant to be used as AP.
wAP can be securely fixed to any external wall or roof from the inside of the caseI would like to install it on the ceiling instead of an old cAP, do you think it is suitable or is the antenna very directional?
Now AX3000 again.Everything flows, everything changes ...
Tested quickly against HAP AX3 indoors, will install wap tomorrow to outside.As mine arrives only next Tuesday I am curious for your first hand experience.
Also same wireless channel?both routers are on top of living room shelf, managed by wifiwave capsman and do not have 5G on simultaniously.
Tested 5G AX only.
Yes, same wireless channel, both had same config via capsman.Also same wireless channel?
Reported TX-power is like both antennas have 7dbi. That's what basically the PDF @ ffcid.io said: 6.9dbi 2ghz, 7dbi 5ghz. And that is what is burned into ROS as well.
That is true. We don't know if device is even capable to transmit at e.g. 30dbm even if not regulatory limits would apply.What ROS reports as country-info is not what device can do
I have also noticed some software bugs, as expected for new product. So follow change logs on new ROS versions and do update.Received 2 wAP AX's. Really like them (same case as wAP ac). One strange thing: I had to manually provision the 5GHz radio to get that to work. Not sure what caused this.
To quote my own comment:Something is pretty wrong with their published specifications:
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- 2.5dbi for 2ghz
- 7dbi for 5ghz
So far so good.
Reported TX-power is like both antennas have 7dbi. That's what basically the PDF @ ffcid.io said: 6.9dbi 2ghz, 7dbi 5ghz. And that is what is burned into ROS as well.
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- 30 - 7 = 23
- 20 - 7 = 13
So damn product page go to hell.
Regulatory domain is Austria. When there is a 2.5dbm antenna inside, then 13dbm tx power is a huge bug.
And why do I observe worse RSSI on the same distance?On both wAP ac and hAP ax lite (so predumably on wAP ax as well) Tx power is limited by EIRP and thus range of wireless "cell" is exactly the same (at least in direction where each device's antenna has best gain)
Happened to me too, it seems caused by the configuration of the bands 2.4/5 GHz" I had to manually provision the 5GHz radio to get that to work. Not sure what caused this." - if someone notices this scenario, please create a supout.rif file before doing the provision, and share it with us, and just in case, also if you already provisioned, make a ticket with us, so we can look into it.
And why do I observe worse RSSI on the same distance?On both wAP ac and hAP ax lite (so predumably on wAP ax as well) Tx power is limited by EIRP and thus range of wireless "cell" is exactly the same (at least in direction where each device's antenna has best gain)
Are you sure about that ?Can't answer on the antenna gain question. But it supports 160mhz channel so it is AX2402 / AC1733.
What does "low 2.4ghz coverage" mean exactly?I am more worried about the low 2.4ghz coverage.
Unless that QCN-6102 in between has something to do with it ...
What does "low 2.4ghz coverage" mean exactly?I am more worried about the low 2.4ghz coverage.
How far are you trying to go?I am more worried about the low 2.4ghz coverage.
These are the most unreliableAnd various unreliable online sources say it supports 160MHz bandwidth and 2x2 MIMO.
hap ax lite is not the only device using the same SoC (IPQ-5010) with builtin 2.4ghz wireless. There are several ones. see https://mikrotik.com/products/matrix. Grep for "IPQ-5010".But we can extrapolate things a bit: hAP ax lite is run by same SoC and 2.4GHz radio is run by SoC-built-in radio hardware, so I think we can safely assume the same limits apply.
Now: for fastest modulation, available for N standard (MCS7) on 2.4GHz band, Tx power limits are: 22dBm (wAP ac) and 17dBm (hAP ax lite)
For fastest modulation, available for AX standard (MCS11) on 2.4GHz, Tx power limit on hAP ax lite is 15dBm
Brazil is a "super-loose" country when it comes zo 2.4GHz band (30dBm Tx power). Pretty high Tx powers on 5GHz as well.Unless someone names me one "super-loose" country I could test the maximum values.
And from these devices - all sharing the same SoC - you chose hap ax lite with the by far "lowest" values in the wireless specification table.
BTW, what does /interface/wifi/radio/print detail show set to min-antenna-gain? Acvording to your observations it should be set to 7 for both radios.
2 min-antenna-gain=7 hw-type="QCA5018"
3 min-antenna-gain=7 hw-type="QCN6122"
2 cap="MikroTik@xxxx" radio-mac=xxx tx-chains=0,1 rx-chains=0,1 bands=2ghz-g:20mhz,2ghz-n:20mhz,20/40mhz,2ghz-ax:20mhz,20/40mhz ciphers=tkip,ccmp,gcmp,ccmp-256,gcmp-256,cmac,gmac,cmac-256,gmac-256 min-antenna-gain=7BTW, what does /interface/wifi/radio/print detail show set to min-antenna-gain? Acvording to your observations it should be set to 7 for both radios.
[snip]
Country limitation is about EIRP ... which is in most WiFi cases reduced to: Tx power + antenna gain. So the higher antenna gain, the lower Tx power ... but for clients the effect is the same, either wax there's same RSSI some distance away from antenna.Why do clients then see weaker signal? Are higher gain antennas better for AP RX direction? Besides beeing more directional.
[admin@MikroTik] > system/resource/print
uptime: 1d23h45m10s
version: 7.16.1 (stable)
build-time: 2024-10-10 14:03:32
factory-software: 7.15.1
free-memory: 36.8MiB
total-memory: 256.0MiB
cpu: ARM
cpu-count: 2
cpu-frequency: 800MHz
cpu-load: 2%
free-hdd-space: 96.9MiB
total-hdd-space: 128.0MiB
write-sect-since-reboot: 1108
write-sect-total: 1846
bad-blocks: 0%
architecture-name: arm
board-name: wAP ax
platform: MikroTik
# 2024-11-04 23:23:13 by RouterOS 7.16.1
# software id = redacted
#
# model = wAPG-5HaxD2HaxD
# serial number = redacted
/interface bridge
add admin-mac=redacted auto-mac=no comment=defconf name=bridgeLocal
/interface wifi datapath
add bridge=bridgeLocal comment=defconf disabled=no name=capdp
/interface wifi
# managed by CAPsMAN
# mode: AP, SSID: redacted, channel: 2442/ax/Ce
set [ find default-name=wifi1 ] configuration.manager=capsman datapath=capdp disabled=no
# managed by redacted
# mode: AP, SSID: jupiter, channel: 5500/ax/Ceeeeeee
set [ find default-name=wifi2 ] configuration.manager=capsman datapath=capdp disabled=no
/interface bridge port
add bridge=bridgeLocal comment=defconf interface=ether1
add bridge=bridgeLocal comment=defconf interface=ether2
/interface wifi cap
set discovery-interfaces=bridgeLocal enabled=yes slaves-datapath=capdp
/ip dhcp-client
add comment=defconf interface=bridgeLocal
/system clock
set time-zone-name=Europe/Vienna
/system note
set show-at-login=no
Clearly a poor cut-and-paste job on the specs page. And IDK why it's hard to for the web specs to match the PDF - the PDF often has additional details (like you 180º "beam width")So attention, for anyone who hasn't noticed, antennas don't scatter the signal 360 degrees, they scatter it 180 degrees!
Chaos is the documentation for this device!!!!!!
I have to say... I really like how these guys include the antenna test result patterns.Sorry about the specs, yes, there were some mistakes, we will / have corrected them. In the PDF we always try to include more information, so I suggest always opening those files too.
/interface wifi {
:local ifcId [/interface wifi find where default-name=wifi1]
set $ifcId configuration.mode=ap channel.band=2ghz-ax disabled=no
set $ifcId channel.width=20/40mhz;
set $ifcId channel.skip-dfs-channels=10min-cac;
set $ifcId security.authentication-types=wpa2-psk,wpa3-psk security.passphrase=$defconfWifiPassword security.ft=yes security.ft-over-ds=yes
:local wlanMac [/interface get [/interface find where default-name=wifi1] mac-address];
:set ssid "MikroTik-$[:pick $wlanMac 9 11]$[:pick $wlanMac 12 14]$[:pick $wlanMac 15 17]"
set $ifcId configuration.ssid=$ssid
anyone noticed the order of wifi1/2 has been changed ... AGAIN ??
Wifi1 = 2Ghz
Wifi2 = 5Ghz
i also hope support for 160mhz is the reason for that improvement in 5Ghz Max data rate to 2400 Mbit/s, i think 160mhz channel support will make it an interesting device for some situationsWhere can I find the wireless features of WAP AX? This is important information for a wireless device!
Now does 5 Ghz radio have a 7 dBi antenna, because it is on the website but not in the Brochure?
What speed is the device capable of, because the website first said 1200 for 5 Ghz radio power, now it says 2400?
Can it then operate on 160Mhz channel?
Plus note ...
It effectively does use 160MHz channel.
AX211 card in my laptop can use it just fine.
Did some rudimentary testing from laptop (using Btest windows app) over wap AX over Hex Refresh (yes, got me that too to play with) towards RB5009.
I saw speeds around and just over 900Mbps on download and 600-ish on upload.
Already connected to it all afternoon, zero drops (and Azure Remote Desktop would throw me out straigth away if a hickup happened, never happened all afternoon)
From what I can see, it is.When you have the chance please test if the load is distributed across multiple CPU cores
thank you
... setting the order of those interfaces is something which is done by startup script.
So the script knows that wifi1 is 2GHz radio (... where default-name=wifi1 ...), it doesn't set default name.:local ifcId [/interface wifi find where default-name=wifi1]
set $ifcId configuration.mode=ap channel.band=2ghz-ax disabled=no
...
Why didn't you go with the cap?Soo... Good thing I ordered 3 of them... one to each room i want to cover with wifi...
This !WAP has seemingly a much higher WAF.
I wouldn't want to go back (from cAP ac to cAP AX to wAP AX). But that is just my opinionHonestly, maybe it's just my opinion but i have a feeling that cAP ac works better than all of this ax stuff...
Maybe your memory is bad, but the old wireless drivers got a lot complaints for years .Honestly, maybe it's just my opinion but i have a feeling that cAP ac works better than all of this ax stuff...
Say what?? Do you mean I can do something new with my old Cap AC ????
With wifi-qcom-ac drivers cap ac works really well. Better than old legacy drivers.
Are you trying to corrupt seniors??Totally agree (except for the 2.4GHz preference, haven't seen that).
And you can run CAPsMAN (new style), @anav! The object oriented implementation
Never too old to lose one's virginity.Are you trying to corrupt seniors??
We need to get on a skype/discord chat so we can discuss losing my capsman virginity.
Are you serious?The cAP ac is both with wireless and with wifi-qcom-ac ridicoulisly stable. Though I do prefer the wifi-qcom-ac driver. Has been running for years and years without problems. But it requires some good configuring and tiny tweaking.
Haha, never too old for a story that probably documents one's own fault to not install the right wifi package lol.Took a cap AC out of the trash pile. Loaded up the latest stable 7.16.1. My router still has capsman on it so it configured right away.
Bunch of devices connected right away. Got a phone call... was breaking up all over.
Logged into my old as hell wifi camera... one frame every couple of seconds.
The complaining around the house started instantly.
XE3-4 had to be put back in to stop the yelling.
anav... I wouldn't waste my time with the old hardware.
Do you even know what you're talking about? You’re an AX3 owner, right? WiFi CAPsMAN is no different from normal WiFi configuration. It just needs one or two provisioning rules, activate CAPsMAN. Done.I know right!! My first comment is that wifi = 1/8 of a config (if that) , as soon as one invokes capsman wifi=2/3 of a config.
Its not clean and effiicient to program or read its friggen BLOATWARE
Downloading the drivers to it now.Load wifi-qcom-ac drivers on it and then redo your tests.
You prefer ICQ ?
But...Skype? Really!?
Now, was this so hard to admit ?Not even sure if I have it right but it works, its snappy, no complaints.
So wAP AX seems to be directional.
Correct antenna gains seem to be around ~7dBi in the frontal direction.
I have caps-man running with 2 capAC as of this morning. No VLANS or anything interesting yet.The only reason for capsman is for roaming between devices, the other APs are tp links not to worry........not going down capsman sinkhole anytime soon
I also despise the armada controller, all done on the device!!
Since I would like to do the same thing, I accept suggestions for "wife approved" stickersAlso wife ordered some kind of stickers for them to make them pretty
I just said anything but some kind of metallic sticker Now who knows what will arrive from Temu...
Well, I certainly wouldn't pay anyone to put their ads on my devices... now, if they were free and included in the package, then maybe...Stickers already exist:
https://merch.mikrotik.com/products/sticker-sheet-2
https://merch.mikrotik.com/products/sticker-sheet
Stickers already exist:
you can stick them upside down and tell your wife it stands for "W" like wife.
/interface/wifi/radio/reg-info country="Australia" number=0
ranges: 2402-2482/36dBm/40MHz
5170-5250/23dBm/160MHz/indoor
5250-5330/23dBm/160MHz/indoor/dfs
5490-5590/30dBm/80MHz/dfs
5650-5730/30dBm/80MHz/dfs
5735-5835/36dBm/80MHz
Thank you!This is from a wAP AX cli.
ch.68 5330–5350 MHz (20MHz)
ch.96 5470–5490 MHz (20MHz)
ch.169 5835–5855 MHz (can be 40MHz if together with ch.165)
ch.173 5855–5875 MHz (20MHz)
Those are magnetic stick-ons with large steel plates, right?wAP ax Christmas edition season 2024/2025 Decorated by me, approved by wife
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Sounds like you might be heading for an energy crunch like we are here in the US -- between server farms and xmas lights, time to beef up the grid.You can reduce amount of stickers to your liking.
You should see some of the houses here in Croatia then... So much Christmas decorations and lights... We don't need street lighting here
@Josephny absolutely, they even claim to extend wireless range
I thought the goal with wAP was it that it's more subtle than a cAP – but adding stickers only draw more attention....I luv it, I think MT should send you some swag and use it on their christmas show!!
Holvoe is just not in the Xmas spirit yet!!!
It shows who has everything to say in your household.
I believe it depends on the colour of the paint on the walls, maybe there is space for a new business for doll WAP clothes?Black wAP would be ideal ...
[admin@CPE_GARAZA] > interface/wifi/registration p
Flags: A - AUTHORIZED
Columns: INTERFACE, SSID, MAC-ADDRESS, UPTIME, SIGNAL
# INTERFACE SSID MAC-ADDRESS UPTIME SIGNAL
0 A wifi1 Leteci megabajti F4:1E:57:2D:EA:72 1h42m18s -71
1 A wifi2 Leteci megabajti F4:1E:57:2D:EA:73 1h34m37s -81
That shouldn't happen.Only thing I found annoying is for some reason mode is changed after every reboot from station bridge to station...