Which MT device provides fastest wifi connectivity?

More specifically, which has the best receive capability (sensitive, but discriminating -- sounds good, right?):

Assuming the "ax" over the "ac" versions:

wAP ax
hAP ax3
cAP ax

I don't have a plan for these other to play around and test and use for wireless sniffing. It may find a permanent home at some time.

From those 3, wap AX since it allows for 160MHz channels (if you can use it within your environment. I can ).

From those 3, wap AX since it allows for 160MHz channels (if you can use it within your environment. I can ).

Is there another MT wifi device not in my list of 3 that you would recommend over the wap AX?

My only hesistation with the wAP is the directionality.

hAP is definitely the most versatile...

wAP ax works fine in my use case and it's smaller than cAP ax. Just put them in the corner and you covered the whole room.

If you can mount AP on the ceiling then I would go with cAP ax. If not then wAP ax could be a good choice. Ooorr... hAP ax2 for eg. could be used as AP as well. Smaller than ax3 but still provides good wireless

For versatility I would also go for AX2 but ... it has no usb port.

Just netinstalled 5 cap ac ( ros and wifi-qcom-ac) using container on AX3.
First time right on each occurrence.

hAP is definitely the most versatile...

In what way?

wAP ax works fine in my use case and it's smaller than cAP ax. Just put them in the corner and you covered the whole room.

If you can mount AP on the ceiling then I would go with cAP ax. If not then wAP ax could be a good choice. Ooorr... hAP ax2 for eg. could be used as AP as well. Smaller than ax3 but still provides good wireless

I don't know my use case, but keeping in mind the directionality is important. The 7db gain is great, if that matches the use case.

I've never worked with a cAP, as I don't have much call for ceiling mounted (I did use a bunch of Ubiquity LR6 ceiling mounted, and it showed me that ceiling mounted (when appropriate) has great advantages (i.e., not a lot things that could wind up touching or blocking the line of site to a ceiling mounted device).

For versatility I would also go for AX2 but ... it has no usb port.

Just netinstalled 5 cap ac ( ros and wifi-qcom-ac) using container on AX3.
First time right on each occurrence.

Are you saying that the hAP ax2 is more versitile than the hAP ax3? If so, how?

I'd love to hear what netinstalled "using container on AX3" means?

Is there a difference in quality in the overall wifi (the RF side of things) between any of these?

They use different wifi chip sets, and have different antenna configurations, so I suspect their RF performance differs.

Wifi 7 devices.

Wifi 7 devices.

You figured me out!

I'm ordering all the Mikrotik wifi 7 equipment in stock everywhere to corner the market.

Should be shipping in a few years.

Are you saying that the hAP ax2 is more versitile than the hAP ax3? If so, how?

Try to fit an AX3 in your backpack. Or simply move it around to another place.
Those big ears make it a bit less handy for that.

I'd love to hear what netinstalled "using container on AX3" means?

Simple.

• Usb stick in AX3 (or whatever device with USB storage)
• Container on that external storage with only one purpose: netinstall
• Use 1 dedicated port only for that function (I use ether5)
• Start container
• Keep log open
• Connect device to be netinstalled (Device Under Netinstall)
• Program will detect device to be netinstalled and sends over packages from external storage to DUN
• Watch log until it says packages have been send
• Container will stop when done or error (error = Up til now only consequence from wrong settings/parameters)

See here: viewtopic.php?t=189485

can we make capsman with CAP AX and Wap AX ? thanks

Sure, why not ?

thanks, another question Wap AX support max 2400 Mbit/s, while it only have 2Ge.
It's very strange

Actually, that's 2 separate gigabit ethernet ports.
It may seem strange but you will rarely get there.

That 2400Mbit/s is the physical data rate. Has little to do with the actual throughput (though higher data rate usually results in higher throughput).
Rule of thumb: roughly 50% of data rate is what you can maximum see as throughput.
But then the device needs to go somewhere else with what it received on that wifi channel. So it goes out via ethernet (usually).
And there you have a limit of Gb ethernet connections (which, let's be honest) is PLENTY for an access point ...

Really, I don't understand why everyone wants the fastest and the biggest and most are using what ? 10% of it ?

From those 3, wap AX since it allows for 160MHz channels (if you can use it within your environment. I can ).

What is the throughput you get with a 160Mhz channel and a good client?
With Hap ax3 (supports up to 80Mhz channel) I get with Ookla speedtest app on Samsung S23 886Mbps Down and 280Mbps up.

PC with intel AX211, so it supports 160Mhz-wide channels.
About 940-950Mbps using iperf3 to internal iperf container, which are normal values for a 1Gb link.
So the limit is the ethernet port, I guess.

Simple.

See here: viewtopic.php?t=189485

This is absolutely perfect, but not for why one might think:

It is a perfect example of how that which passes for "simple" varies 'a wee bit' from person to person.

Among my social peers I am considered a total computer guru (I've been working with computer systems since the early 1980s; built, ran and sold a tech company; and every day work at (for personal, not professional goals) and use and learn as much tech as possible - and love it. And yet, on this forum I am barely a newbie.

That's a long way to say, I'm impressed that you find this simple. I do not. Could I master it? Probably, with enough effort and time (far more than I suspect it took you, and far more than I have available).

Nonetheless, thank you for the explanation. This has been added to my bucket list.

Being someone who also had my fingers on a keyboard the first time in 1980 (VIC-20, oldtimers will surely remember it with its 3.5Kb of free RAM) when I was 12...

I never played games (ok, not much )
I'm an auto-didact and I am blessed to learn pretty fast. I learned myself to do so.
Same with Mikrotik and ROS, started in 2021, I completely learned it on my own largely based on info I found on this place and Help pages.
Still learning !

That thread I referred to has some pretty clear step-by-step instructions how it should be done.
So yes, I think it is simple. But I do realize it might not be so obvious for others (learned that too over the years).
English is not my native language (also started learning that when I was 12 out of necessity, there was no IT literature in Dutch, no internet, nada)
Therefor my apologies if that remark may have sounded as coming from an ivory tower

Setting up IPV6 I find a bit more daunting (but it's on my list for next year to really dive into it).

Oh, no! I absolutely did not perceive your comment to be in any way negative or inappropriate.

I remeber the vic-20, TRS-80, Atari (basic), and then the Apple 2 and DOS on an 8086; and, of course, Unix and it's lovely variant Xenix.

But, back to that thread....

It is lively, with an evolution, so it's a little hard to follow what the current/latest instructions and supporting files/apps are.

But, back to that thread....

It is lively, with an evolution, so it's a little hard to follow what the current/latest instructions and supporting files/apps are.

I haven't tried that version Ammo posted there. As indicated, semaja's version works, I'm not touching it.

Follow the steps in the first post.
At the point the container image needs to be loaded, it gets pulled from internet.

When external storage is being referred, check what it is named on your device (for me it was usb1/usb1-part1

When setting up the container package/environment, don't forget to specify the Registry URL or nothing can be pulled.
( https://registry-1.docker.io )

So you have to follow the instructions but also look out how it should be applied to your situation at each step.
Maybe you want another port then ether5 ? Then do so.
We're humans. We should be able to think close-but-not-exactly-the same

Why, in my day ... [1]
All I had was a Sinclair Zx80, 1 kb memory and I had to solder components myself.
And we liked it
.... kids today.

[1] https://tinyapps.org/blog/200702250700_ ... y_day.html

wAP ax works fine in my use case and it's smaller than cAP ax. Just put them in the corner and you covered the whole room.

If you can mount AP on the ceiling then I would go with cAP ax. If not then wAP ax could be a good choice. Ooorr... hAP ax2 for eg. could be used as AP as well. Smaller than ax3 but still provides good wireless

I don't know my use case, but keeping in mind the directionality is important. The 7db gain is great, if that matches the use case.

I've never worked with a cAP, as I don't have much call for ceiling mounted (I did use a bunch of Ubiquity LR6 ceiling mounted, and it showed me that ceiling mounted (when appropriate) has great advantages (i.e., not a lot things that could wind up touching or blocking the line of site to a ceiling mounted device).

For eg. I put my wAP axes in corners of the rooms I want to cover with wifi. Back of the APs are facing towards yard. That way in every room I have great wireless coverage. Hallway and bathrooms are also covered with great 2.4G signal. There is 5GHz signal but usually devices switches to 2.4GHz pretty fast.

Security cameras and doorbell connects to 2.4GHz radio without a problem.

PC with intel AX211, so it supports 160Mhz-wide channels.
About 940-950Mbps using iperf3 to internal iperf container, which are normal values for a 1Gb link.
So the limit is the ethernet port, I guess.

That's massive but it should give more! Seems indeed 1G Ethernet port limit.
in case you have nothing lese to do Could you test with two Wifi clients connected to iperf3 servers connected to the two different ethernet ports of the wap ax?

Curious how much you get combined...

Errrmm ... you might as well look at the test results posted by Mikrotik then.
That's more or less what they do when conducting those tests.

If no one knows (or if it's top-secret), that's fine, but what I meant by my (poorly phrased) question was which one has the best wireless tech -- i.e., best design and performing receiver and transmitter.

I erroneously used "fastest" but that's not exaclty what I meant.

Depends on what you want to favor.
You can not ace each and every parameter. Not with the prices these things cost.

Depends on what you want to favor.
You can not ace each and every parameter. Not with the prices these things cost.

Totally understood and agree.

I went ahead and ordered a wAP ax.

Seems anecdotal reports for every model include everything from "garbage" to "magnificient" -- so much for relying on anecdotal reports

In my case I have same or even better wireless with wAP ax when comparing it with cAP ax. OTOH cAP ax wasn't mounted on the ceiling but instead it was behind th TV or on the desk so not the ideal position.

On wap ax you can bond eth ports, if its not hitting CPU limit. Might test at evening.

Bonding still requires multi stream or you will have zero effect.