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hAP ax lite LTE6 how to set as repeater

Thu Dec 05, 2024 8:14 pm

Hi,

Sorry in advance for probably so dummy issue I have but since yesterday I run through many tutorials and still can't go forward for seems to be very very basic matter.

I bought some time time ago Mikrotik hAP ax lite LTE6 to wok as repeater to enforce my wifi signal at home. Before I bought this device I checked many YT movies and could seen that needed setup should be easy even for rookie like me but unfortunately I see that Winbox I use gives different option or let say features I need are not in place. Can you look into attached screenshot and guide me where to click to set Mikrotik as most simplest repeater to enforce wifi at my home ?

Few questions on top of that
- did I bought correct device for such basic thing ?
- at all tutorials I see v6.x is used. At my is v7.8. Is that ok for what I need ?
- while trying to follow tutorials to downgrade to v6.x then I got no results before and after reboot. Can somebody provide tutorial for dumbs ?
- in Wireless tab I have no "setup repeater' mode
- while double click on 'wifi1' I have different tabs so also Wireless tab is also missing ?

Thanks in advance for any help.

BR Mateusz
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Re: hAP ax lite LTE6 how to set as repeater

Thu Dec 05, 2024 9:19 pm

Your device can not run v6, it's limited to v7. So you'll have to take tutorials with a few grains of salt.
And while starting to think about your way forward, upgrade your device to latest v7 (7.16.2 at the time of writing this post) ... I recommend using built-in updater (webfig or winbox or CLI) which will take required stop at 7.12.1.
 
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Re: hAP ax lite LTE6 how to set as repeater

Fri Dec 06, 2024 8:32 am

Once you are done we can proceed.
Do not forget to update modem firmware as well.

The device can be used as wifi repeater but I wonder why you use an LTE device for that ?

How is it going to repeat the wifi signal ?
Through local ethernet or via that LTE ?

Maybe best to describe in more detail what you want to achieve and how your current setup looks like.
A small drawing may help ( can be on paper).
 
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Re: hAP ax lite LTE6 how to set as repeater

Fri Dec 06, 2024 12:00 pm

The Quick Setup is indeed gone under ROS7, but it is really simple to do an extender yourself.
You go to reset , select no config. And then do use a script like this:
/interface bridge
add name=bridge1
/interface wifi security
add authentication-types=wpa2-psk,wpa3-psk disable-pmkid=yes disabled=no name=YOUR-SECURITY-PROFILE passphrase=MY-PASSWORD
/interface wifi configuration
add disabled=no name=MY-CONFIG-NAME security=YOUR-SECURITY-PROFILE ssid=YOUR-SSID
/interface wifi
set [ find default-name=wifi1 ] configuration=MY-CONFIG-NAME configuration.mode=station-pseudobridge disabled=no name=2G_STA
/interface bridge port
add bridge=bridge1 interface=2G_STA
add bridge=bridge1 interface=ether1
add bridge=bridge1 interface=ether2
add bridge=bridge1 interface=ether3
add bridge=bridge1 interface=ether4
add bridge=bridge1 interface=ether5
/ip dhcp-client
add interface=bridge1
Once above done, your device should connect to any SSID you defined, and when you connect via ethernet, you can connect to it and have internet.
Now, if you want Wifi as well, it depends if your device is singe band or dual band.
If single band, you just go into the Wifi tab, add a slave Wifi interface. You configure it exactly the same as the 2G_STA. (add it to the bridge etc.) EXCEPT the mode is "AP" and not "STATION-PSEUDO-BRIDGE"

That way you have a simple Wifi range extender. From there you can add/adjust further...
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Re: hAP ax lite LTE6 how to set as repeater

Fri Dec 06, 2024 12:04 pm

Just a minute.
It all depends on how the uplink is going to be... if LTE you are leaving the device wide open.
 
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Re: hAP ax lite LTE6 how to set as repeater

Fri Dec 06, 2024 12:11 pm

Just a minute.
It all depends on how the uplink is going to be... if LTE you are leaving the device wide open.
Indeed. He was asking about an extender, not an LTE Access Point. Indeed, that is something different, and I did there not configure the LTE interface.
If this device becomes an AP with WAN via LTE it gets much more complex. But then there is Quickset in ROS existing to setup an LTE device as an LTE AP device,
including firewall etc... (pretty much the config when you pull it out of the box).
 
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Re: hAP ax lite LTE6 how to set as repeater

Fri Dec 06, 2024 1:12 pm

Hi

Thanks for support guys first of all. I'm still struggling with upgrade of device as my dell laptop does not let me be connected simultaneously to wifi with Internet and LAN to device, so simply can't use 'Check for updates' in Winbox.

Having LTE device is just coincidence, I was looking for something what will work reliable and give good signal. I have router in my garage and simply the signal in upper floor is pour but I have sockets RJ45 in each room so was thinking to connect Mikrotik to one of the socket and repeat same wifi as primary router in the garage. Should be simple but seems too advance for amateur like me. As reading above I understand it should be set as bridge yes ?
 
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Re: hAP ax lite LTE6 how to set as repeater

Fri Dec 06, 2024 5:13 pm

set [ find default-name=wifi1 ] configuration=MY-CONFIG-NAME configuration.mode=station-pseudobridge disabled=no name=2G_STA
I got syntax error here 'configuration'
set [ find default-name=wifi1 ] configuration=MY-CONFIG-NAME configuration.mode=station-pseudobridge disabled=no name=2G_STA
 
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Re: hAP ax lite LTE6 how to set as repeater

Fri Dec 06, 2024 6:00 pm

Start by updating the router's software and firmware to the latest available version.

1) Reset the router to the default configuration:
https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/spaces/R ... set+Button
2) Connect the first Ethernet port of the router (labelled as "Internet") to your home network and the laptop to another port or Wi-Fi.

If you done everything correctly, the laptop will get the Internet access.

In WinBox or WebFig connect to the router:
1) Run System > Packages > Check for Updates to update RouterOS.
2) Run System > RouterBOARD > Update and then reboot the router to update firmware.
 
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Re: hAP ax lite LTE6 how to set as repeater

Fri Dec 06, 2024 6:43 pm

I have router in my garage and simply the signal in upper floor is pour but I have sockets RJ45 in each room so was thinking to connect Mikrotik to one of the socket and repeat same wifi as primary router in the garage.

It is not at all clear (to me) what you are trying to achieve.

You have a router in your garage. OK
This router is connected (WAN side) to the internet. OK
This router (it would help if you could provide its make/model) is connected to your home internal network (RJ45 ethernet cables/sockets) on the LAN side. OK
This router is also a Wi-Fi router and provides internet also wirelessly, right?
This router runs a DHCP server and it provides IP addresses to both cable connected devices and wi-fi connected ones, right?
The Wi-fi signal from the Wi-Fi router in some areas of your house is weak and you want to connect the hap ax lite (LTE6) to an available ethernet RJ45 socket in that area and have it cover with Wi-FI that area, right?

If the answer to the last three is yes, you want to configure it as an Access Point (loosely the internet comes from cable and is distributed via Wi-Fi to wireless devices).

The configuration talked about till now is the opposite, internet is provided via Wi-Fi and the hap ax lite should be a client (station) of this Wi-FI network and either allow access to it through one of its ethernet ports or repeat it (providing more coverage).

Generally speaking using a Mikrotik as "repeater" is not a very good idea (besides the relative complexity of its setup), there is more suitable hardware around, usually called "extender".

The difference is that a "repeater" receives and transmits on the same radio (thus throughput is at least halved) while an "extender" normally uses two radios, one to receive and one to transmit.
 
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Re: hAP ax lite LTE6 how to set as repeater

Fri Dec 06, 2024 9:16 pm

Good, so you need a "normal" AP setup.

Complete examples for a "pure" AP setup on 7.x are rare (most are for older v 6.x or however for "wireless" whilst you have "wifi" or are related to the much more complex CAPSMAN setup).

But it should be pretty much straightforward. I'll see if I can find a good example for you to folllow.
 
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Re: hAP ax lite LTE6 how to set as repeater

Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:41 pm

I cannot find a complete one.
The essence can be found here:
https://superuser.com/questions/1855137 ... fi-enabled
On the other hand, if you start with a blank configuration (let's say you've factory-reset it, then connected via mactelnet/macwinbox and opted to remove the defconf), there's even less to do:

Create a bridge; add all ether ports (as well as the wlan interfaces) to the bridge.
Create a DHCP client on the bridge.
Set the wlan interfaces to mode=ap, configure a SSID and a security profile.
That's pretty much it.
A little expanded, see this post by robmaltsystem:
viewtopic.php?t=143446#p763654

The differences should be only in the way the wifi interfaces need to be configured, you are surely running the new Wifi-qcom drivers (under menu wifi) whilst most of the available examples are for the older built-in driver (under menu wireless).

Loosely you should come out with something *like* (only as a minimal base config, you will notice that here ether4 is kept outside the bridge and given a static IP address, so that you have if needed an emergency access through ether4):
/interface bridge
add name=bridge
/interface wifi channel
add band=2ghz-ax disabled=no frequency=2462 name=ch-2ghz width=20mhz
add band=5ghz-ax disabled=no frequency=5600 name=ch-5ghz width=20/40mhz
/interface wifi security
add authentication-types=wpa2-psk disabled=no name=sec-test
/interface wifi configuration
add channel=ch-2ghz country=Germany disabled=no mode=ap name=conf-2ghz security=sec-test ssid=Test
add channel=ch-5ghz country=Germany disabled=no mode=ap name=conf-5ghz security=sec-test ssid=Test
/interface wifi
set [ find default-name=wifi1 ] configuration=conf-5ghz configuration.mode=ap
set [ find default-name=wifi2 ] configuration=conf-2ghz configuration.mode=ap
/ip dhcp-client
add interface=bridge
/interface bridge port
add bridge=bridge interface=ether1
add bridge=bridge interface=ether2
add bridge=bridge interface=ether3
add bridge=bridge interface=wifi1
add bridge=bridge interface=wifi2
/ip address
add address=192.168.88.1/24 interface=ether4 network=192.168.88.0
/system clock
set time-zone-name=Europe/Berlin
/system note
set show-at-login=no
Of course location/country, wifi channels, SSID and password need to be configured for your specific setup.
See also the help page:
https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/spaces/R ... 59120/WiFi
 
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Re: hAP ax lite LTE6 how to set as repeater

Sun Dec 08, 2024 4:09 pm

Jaclaz I understand that you suggest to change the device for typical access point yes ? like Access Point MikroTik routerboard RB941-2ND-TC hAP lite ?
 
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Re: hAP ax lite LTE6 how to set as repeater

Sun Dec 08, 2024 5:17 pm

No, why do you want to change the device?
You have at hand an Ax lite LTE6, use that.
An Ax lite can be configured as Access Point just fine (of course you need not any firewall on it and the LTE will be disabled/not used).

The issue is only that:
v6.xx used drivers for the local radios that were configured under "wireless".
v7.x (cannot really say which versions, I believe up to 7.12.1, but surely your 7.8) used different drivers that were still configured under "witreless" but that are "Wifi Wave2".
newer v7.x (I believe starting 7.13.x) has a big change of drivers, they are not anymore inside the main RoS package, so you need the wifi-qcom package and their configuratiion is not anymore under "wireless" but rather under "wifi".

Before or later you will want to update from 7.8 (you cannot downgrade to a version lower than your factory version, likely 7.4 or 7.8 ).

Most if not all the tutorials/complete configurations are for the earlier versions (wireless or wifiwave2 under wireless) so it is more difficult to point you to one complete tested example.

Upgrading is suggested, 7.8 is a pretty much old version.

The upgrade process is in this case a two steps one:
1) upgrade to 7.12.1
2) upgrade to any higher version

You could do just the first step, and use as reference any of the many posts using "/interface wireless" like the mentioned:
viewtopic.php?t=143446#p763654
and reference configuration:
viewtopic.php?t=143446#p763655
for the settings and test the configuration and only later make the second step (rather a jump) and see if the configuration is "translated" correctly by the upgrade process or (I believe it will be needed) you need to tweak/change it under "/interface wifi" (which is the "new standard").

Or you could update to a recent version (the automatic upgrade, once you will have upgraded to 7.12.1 will suggest you the latest "stable"[1] 7.16.2) you might want to do a manual upgrade to a recent but not latest one (i don't think that even if you go for 7.16.2 you will have issues, as your intended configuration is very basic, but there are a lot of reports of issues with ax drivers/radios and many people stay at an older, more tested version, like 7.14.3 or similar).

[1] There are contrasting opinions on what "stable" means, Mikrotik thinks evidently that it means "stable", personally I think that it means what in other softwares would be called (IMHO) "early beta"

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