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Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD

Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:19 pm

Hi all,

I try to resurrect an old RB750 found recently:
RB750-DIGI.jpg
I performed hard reset on it, via RESET button, but nothing changed.
In WinBox it appears like this, with IP 0.0.0.0 :
RB750-DIGI-WinBox.png
I connect my PC to Port 2 and looked at WireShark messages:
RB750-DIGI-WireShark.png
Any idea on what can I do in this case?
Is there a chance to resurrect it and use it like a normal router?

Or it is only good as a furniture? :)

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD

Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:35 pm

Yikes !
4.13, that's from ... 2010 :shock:

Using MAC address, user=amin, passwd=<blank>, doesn't work ?

Since it shows uptime in Winbox, it is doing something and communicating.
Maybe Winbox 3.41 is too new for that thing ?
You don't happen to have much older versions of Winbox around to try ?

But to be honest, apart form nostalgic reasons and toying around, I wouldn't do anything anymore with such an oldie ...
 
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Re: Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD

Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:39 pm

On the winbox screenshot, everything is set-up to click connect (when connect to is filled with MAC address, winnix will try to connect without using IP).

But there are a few problems:
  1. ROS version is extremely old, your winbox can't connect to it due to change of how password is communicated. You'd have to use winbox version below 3.19 (or something like that)
  2. ROS version is extremely old, you shoukd install something way newer. But due to bullet #3 perhaps stay with ROS v6 (6.49.18). Due to extreme version difference you should upgrade in steps ... AFAIK there was efen change in license format ... and upgrading only slightly did convert license to new format. Quite posssibly directly installing a contemporary version wouldn't do it properly.
  3. The device itself is ancient and relatively slow for todays standards. I don't see any point in trying to use it, you may as well as invest into a hAP ax lite (list price $59) and start off with way more capable device. Unless you're into making technical legacy alive ...
 
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Re: Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD

Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:46 pm

Maybe you need an older (possibly very old) version of Winbox?

viewtopic.php?t=141809
 
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Re: Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD

Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:34 pm

Yikes !
4.13, that's from ... 2010 :shock:

Using MAC address, user=amin, passwd=<blank>, doesn't work ?

Since it shows uptime in Winbox, it is doing something and communicating.
Maybe Winbox 3.41 is too new for that thing ?
You don't happen to have much older versions of Winbox around to try ?

But to be honest, apart form nostalgic reasons and toying around, I wouldn't do anything anymore with such an oldie ...
I tried connecting on WinBox 3.41 with admin and no password, but unsuccessfully.
On the winbox screenshot, everything is set-up to click connect (when connect to is filled with MAC address, winnix will try to connect without using IP).

But there are a few problems:
  1. ROS version is extremely old, your winbox can't connect to it due to change of how password is communicated. You'd have to use winbox version below 3.19 (or something like that)
  2. ROS version is extremely old, you shoukd install something way newer. But due to bullet #3 perhaps stay with ROS v6 (6.49.18). Due to extreme version difference you should upgrade in steps ... AFAIK there was efen change in license format ... and upgrading only slightly did convert license to new format. Quite posssibly directly installing a contemporary version wouldn't do it properly.
  3. The device itself is ancient and relatively slow for todays standards. I don't see any point in trying to use it, you may as well as invest into a hAP ax lite (list price $59) and start off with way more capable device. Unless you're into making technical legacy alive ...

My main router is a hEX refresh E50UG, and my intention is to use this one as a playground and test bench to learn configuring Mikrotik routers.
Maybe you need an older (possibly very old) version of Winbox?

viewtopic.php?t=141809
RB750-DIGI-WinBox-3RC6.png
I downloaded old WinBox v3RC6, but when I try to connect I get WRONG PASSWORD.
RB750-DIGI-WinBox-2.2.18.png
RB750-DIGI-WinBox-2.2.18-error.png
With WinBox 2.2.18 I get this error when trying to connect.

It might be that this router in particular have customized firmware? DIGI is a Cable TV Company in Romania . . .

Thanks all for your suggestions.
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Re: Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD

Sat Feb 08, 2025 12:36 am

3.0 RC6 Is from 2015, so maybe still too new?
Can you try to connect with v2.x via MAC? (of course It cannot connect via IP to 0.0.0.0)
 
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Re: Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD

Sat Feb 08, 2025 8:35 am

3.0 RC6 Is from 2015, so maybe still too new?
Can you try to connect with v2.x via MAC? (of course It cannot connect via IP to 0.0.0.0)
So I tried connecting with WinBox 2.2.16 via MAC address, but I get WRONG PASSWORD if I lease password field empty.
Same WRONG PASSWORD I get when I try connect with WinBox 3.0 via MAC address.

I still think there is a custom firmware installed on it.
So won't be a good idea to use netinstall to install the original ROS 4.13?

If so, I found here https://mikrotik.spectrumindo.com/mikro ... 750-1.html that this RB750 will need MIPS-BE firmware, is that correct?

I also found a big repository of old ROS, WinBox, netinstall and other Mikrotik related files here: https://www.mikrotik-software.de/downloads/
 
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Re: Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD

Sat Feb 08, 2025 10:50 am

I did try to use netinstall, but the router is not showing at all.

I configured my pc Network card to use:
IP Address: 192.168.88.2
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Defaul Gateway: 192.168.88.1
Prefered DNS: 192.168.88.1

On neinstall 4.13 I configured Net booting to 192.168.88.3

I disabled all other network adapters on PC.
Connect PC to PORT 1 of the router.
Powered off the router.
Holding RESET button, plugged in the power cord.
Continue to hold the reset button until router seams to restart.
Nothing shown on netinstall :(

I am doing something wrong?
Any other idea I can try to resurrect this branded router?

Thanks!
 
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Re: Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD

Sat Feb 08, 2025 3:07 pm

Try one of the common credentials for digi, maybe - just maybe - they are the same:
https://19216811.uno/digi-router-login/
https://www.digi.com/support/knowledge- ... -passwords
 
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Re: Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD

Sat Feb 08, 2025 5:13 pm

Try one of the common credentials for digi, maybe - just maybe - they are the same:
https://19216811.uno/digi-router-login/
https://www.digi.com/support/knowledge- ... -passwords
I tried all combination possible, nothing works. :(

Searching the internet I found that this router type was used as trail for DIGI IPTV in Romania.
I even contacted DIGI to ask for user manual, and they mention this device model is not present any more in their device portfolio . . .
 
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Re: Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD

Sat Feb 08, 2025 5:48 pm

Try again with netinstall.
Your settings seem correct, but there are reports that putting a (dumb) switch between the PC and the Routerboard can help in detecting the device (timing problems or whatever).
I would add that for such an old board I would try a 10/100 switch, just in case.
 
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Re: Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD

Sat Feb 08, 2025 8:51 pm

What I often do is to run wireshark ... and I can see if/when device starts to communicate with netinstall binary on PC. Then and only then it's time to let go the button.
 
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Re: Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD

Sun Feb 09, 2025 9:35 am

Try again with netinstall.
Your settings seem correct, but there are reports that putting a (dumb) switch between the PC and the Routerboard can help in detecting the device (timing problems or whatever).
I would add that for such an old board I would try a 10/100 switch, just in case.
I did what you suggested, but nothing happens. I uses a Gigabit switch (only one available) and also tried with a old TP-Link WR743ND V2 runing DD-WRT and configured without DHCP Server.
What I often do is to run wireshark ... and I can see if/when device starts to communicate with netinstall binary on PC. Then and only then it's time to let go the button.
I follow your advice and opened Wireshark when powering on the router, nothing indicating that it is alive. :(

Another info I've notice:
- only PORT 1 and PORT 2 are giving me a MAC address, the other ports are not
- the MAC address on PORT 1 is different then MAC address on PORT 2

So, in conclusion, am I the happy owner o a bricked router that can only be used as furniture? :)
 
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Re: Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD

Sun Feb 09, 2025 11:49 am

The Mac address of port1 different from that of port2 is normal, usually ether1 is WAN and the other ports are LAN (in a bridge), and it is entirely possible that ether3 and ether4 have been disabled, if the thingy was used to "convert" a connection to IPTV only, but that might mean that you did not manage to reset it.

Could it be (not as rare as it should) that the reset button is not working?

I would try opening the device and short the contacts of the reset button with a pair of tweezers, like:
viewtopic.php?t=207577
 
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Re: Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD

Sun Feb 09, 2025 12:23 pm

Reuse the case and put in a new RB ?
 
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Re: Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD

Sun Feb 09, 2025 1:13 pm

Reuse the case and put in a new RB ?
That is a good advice, inly if I can open the case, which I was not able to do yet. :)
20250209_130826.jpg
I found another think that might help, under one of the rubber feet, there is a hole and in the hole there is a jumper.
I did try to use it and do a Router OS reset, but unsuccessfully.

What is the procedure using this jumper hole?

Also, somehow I was able to make te router looking like this, with all LEDs turned on:
20250209_130939.jpg
Does this mean anything?
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Re: Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD

Sun Feb 09, 2025 2:51 pm

The reset pad, which you discovered under ruber foot, has same function as reset button. So keep those pads shorted while applying power (and then for a while more) until netinstall starts to show signs. From own experience I can tell you it's hard to keep pads shorted and plug power at the same time ... for me, a Phillips screwdriver (with + shaped head) was better than flat one.

You may have managed to short pads while device was powered ... so you may have succeeded in reseting device to defaults (in which case username is admin and empty password).
 
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Re: Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD

Sun Feb 09, 2025 3:16 pm

That contact is the same as the (possibly defective) reset button, use a cross (Philips) screwdriver to make the short.
viewtopic.php?t=45590

Check the behaviour of your device against this:
viewtopic.php?t=137663
viewtopic.php?t=137663#p678695
 
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Re: Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD

Sun Feb 09, 2025 3:24 pm

That is a good advice, inly if I can open the case, which I was not able to do yet. :)
What is the problem?
There are two "clamps" visible on the picture of the bottom between the edge and mounting crosslike holes.
Just loose that clamps with a pocket knife or flat screwdriver and pry the cover.
 
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Re: Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD

Sun Feb 09, 2025 3:33 pm

Instructions from Mikrotik (for hap lite, but case is the same).
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Re: Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD

Sun Feb 09, 2025 4:54 pm

The reset pad, which you discovered under ruber foot, has same function as reset button. So keep those pads shorted while applying power (and then for a while more) until netinstall starts to show signs. From own experience I can tell you it's hard to keep pads shorted and plug power at the same time ... for me, a Phillips screwdriver (with + shaped head) was better than flat one.

You may have managed to short pads while device was powered ... so you may have succeeded in reseting device to defaults (in which case username is admin and empty password).
I tried a lot, not worked! :( No difference, same behavior as before! :(
That contact is the same as the (possibly defective) reset button, use a cross (Philips) screwdriver to make the short.
viewtopic.php?t=45590

Check the behaviour of your device against this:
viewtopic.php?t=137663
viewtopic.php?t=137663#p678695
No difference!
That is a good advice, inly if I can open the case, which I was not able to do yet. :)
What is the problem?
There are two "clamps" visible on the picture of the bottom between the edge and mounting crosslike holes.
Just loose that clamps with a pocket knife or flat screwdriver and pry the cover.
Instructions from Mikrotik (for hap lite, but case is the same).
Done! Managed to open it!
20250209_164710.jpg
20250209_164658.jpg
But mine is different that what I see as RB750 here on forum . . .
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Re: Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD

Sun Feb 09, 2025 5:21 pm

But mine is different that what I see as RB750 here on forum . . .
There are several versions of that board, yours seems like this one:
viewtopic.php?t=86366
(so it exists)
 
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Re: Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD

Sun Feb 09, 2025 6:22 pm

keep in mind if you achieve recovering this device will be better to use only v6 RouterOS not v7 because of scarse 32MB of ram, dont forget cpu is only 400mhz so performance will be according to that

pdf with datasheet
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Re: Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD

Sun Feb 09, 2025 7:50 pm

So far, I am ou of ideas on what to try next, in this challenge to resurrect it.
 
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Re: Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD

Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:48 pm

Today I tried something else, installing openwrt on my RB750

I followed this guidelines:
https://openwrt.org/toh/mikrotik/common
https://klseet.com/networking/router-fi ... 50gl-rb750
and also tried using this files for initializing openwrt:
https://openwrt.org/toh/hwdata/mikrotik/mikrotik_rb750

Although in Tiny PXE is showing that the selected file is delivered to the router, nothing more happens, and when I change to port 2, 192.168.1.1 is not available.
 
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Re: Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD

Mon Feb 10, 2025 11:48 pm

Have any experience in Linux as user ?
I tried some years ago to install Lede(OpenWRT) to my 750gl and got it working
but when i need to get it back to orig firmware i struggle a bit.

But you can use some of my command's to do what you what to boot via tftp the Lede(OpenWRT) fw with Linux commands.
viewtopic.php?p=993075#p993075

And for the Lede
https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/l ... ramfs.elf

Here somebody else trying to upgrade just the RB750.
viewtopic.php?t=206271

I am on Arch btw, but you could use like Ubuntu or some another Linux dist to do this.
And if you on Windows you can take usb thumb drive and flash that with some Live dist.
And boot from that, and do these commands.

Just only use dnsmasq, that can be installed with apt on debian based dist Like Ubuntu.
sudo apt install dnsmasq
PS...Maybe you missed to change your computers NIC to static ip like 192.168.1.10/24.
And default OpenWRT may not have web interface, you have to ssh to it, this can be done with Windows command line or Linux terminal command line.
ssh root@192.168.1.1
 
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Re: Resurrect old RB750 v4.13 Mikrotik RouterBOARD  [SOLVED]

Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:50 am

SOLVED SOLVED

What worked for me was to use Netinstall fro Windows version 6.49.11.
And by magic, everything worked as expected.

Thanks a lot for your support!

My old RB750 router is resurrect!!!!
 
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Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:00 am

Very good :) , another (little) piece of electronics saved from going to the trash.