RouterOS v3.17, v4.0beta1, The Dude v3 released

Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:32 pm

ROS v3.17 http://www.mikrotik.com/download/CHANGELOG_3
ROS v4.0 beta 1 http://www.mikrotik.com/download/CHANGELOG_4
Dude v3.0 http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MikroTik_Dude/Changelog

P.S.: to download v4.0 beta 1, select "development" type from dropdown

omidkosari · Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:44 pm

http://www.mikrotik.com/download/routeros-md5-3.17.txt the file does not have md5 . please fix it.

Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:49 pm

Awesome, lots of good bug fixes in the 3.17 release.

I hope we will finally get to see support for IPSEC interface's in the 4.x series, that would allow us to sell a lot more Mikrotik kit to clients, we generally run "route based" aka "IPSEC Interface" vpn's for our clients from a central concentrator then use OSPF accross the IPSEC interfaces to handle all the routing. By having this feature it will allow us to keep our Juniper J23XX and FortiGate concentrators and use Mikrotik at the edge.

omidkosari · Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:54 pm

Also in http://www.mikrotik.com/download.html the dude package is dude-3.0rc3.npk but in http://www.mikrotik.com/thedude.php the dude is http://www.mikrotik.com/download/dude/3.0/dude-3.0.npk

tierpath · Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:51 pm

v4, hmm, Hopefully it gets n, mimo, and openvpn UDP support, as well as the ipsec support. Then I can sell the hell out of these damn things!

changeip · Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:10 pm

I wish for complete torrent downloads... the past 5-6 versions have had missing files every single time.

I also wish for the forums to not come to a crawling hault at times like these.

honzam · Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:56 pm

How to upgrade to 4.0b ? Only Netinstal?

sacwireless · Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:12 pm

@changeip, agreed! my torrent downloads are both at 99.61% and 94.92%, and the forum has been very sluggish if not completely unreachable. could barely post this reply.

MetaROUTERs? Anyone have some details on that one, don't see any mention of it in the Wiki or Forums, Google pops up a couple results but not sure if they would apply.

mietus · Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:38 pm

i confirm both torrents are broken :/

roadrunner · Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:24 pm

MetaROUTERs? perhaps new routerboard hardware? or a MPLS type of routeros operation?

Is RouterOSv3 documentation going to be updated before 4.0rc1 is released?
There still are a few sections still missing.

Both torrents have some files broken, others files finish.
Since the weekend has already started in Latvia, we might need to wait until monday for it to be fixed.

3.17 torrent has atleast these files broken:
netinstall, all routeros combined images, xen
4.0b1 torrent broken files:
CHANGELOG_rc, routeros-mipsbe-4.0beta1.npk, routeros-x86-4.0beta1.npk
4.0b1 good files:
mikrotik-4.0beta1.iso, netinstall-4.0beta1.zip, routeros combined (mipsle & ppc), xen

csickles · Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:26 pm

MetaROUTERs ??

Any good docs?

I dont want to sounf like a complete NOOBe but ...

andreacoppini · Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:32 pm

wondering what the MetaROUTER is as well... could it be some form of virtualisation? maybe it also means that hot standby routers with automatic configuration mirroring is coming?? hmmmm...

cmit · Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:23 pm

Similar to Xen, but MetaRouter is used for the RB400 series boards to create a
virtual routers. Go into the '/metarouter' menu and there you will find the
info. When creating a new router you only need to specify the amount of RAM,
it will automatically choose how much disk to use.

Haven't had the time to play around with it...

kevin@safelink.net · Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:39 pm

If this is a bandwidth issue I know there has to be other Mikrotik users out there willing to seed. Maybe a pre-release to a few select customers that are willing to seed these?

Time Elapsed: 2:01 hours. Progress 98.4%

It's been stuck there for 1 hour and 45 minutes.

tomekmak · Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:45 am

same there....

geo_stef · Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:57 am

torrents
routeros-ALL-3.17 @ 98.4%
routeros-ALL-4.0beta1 @ 99.6%

no seeder??? and lot of leechers???

changeip · Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:53 am

i dont think its as much as not having seeders as it is a properly setup .torrent file... or checksums incorrect. this has happened on the past 5-6 torrents posted, so what happened then? MT had to repost ?

Gerard · Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:10 am

The whole problem is mikrotik creates the .torrents and never seeds them at the start...

So I do the same thing I do for every release.. I download the files off the website and have the torrent re-scan the files to verify them and it causes my torrent client to seed what I can.. I would be able to seed everything but the changelog that's posted on the site is never the same that is included in the .torrent.. and the way the .torrent checksum's are calculated using 256k chunks it causes some of the other files to be marked incomplete..

-Gerard

Thanks for whoever helped seed today. I had to leave before I finished downloading all the files from latvia at 4k..

leoktv · Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:55 am

I'm runing the Swedish mirror and are downloding from that one and are seeding that files.

Trisc · Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:25 pm

Downloading torrent at 10Mbps until 98.6% then it stopped dead with my torrent client saying the ports are closed. We have no ports blocked!

mojiro · Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:27 pm

torrents
routeros-ALL-3.17 @ 98.4%
routeros-ALL-4.0beta1 @ 99.6%

no seeder??? and lot of leechers???

Report it at ByteMe administators Rolf

By the way, what's the extraordinary changes in 4.x version ?

Only these:

*) added support for MetaROUTERs;
*) all test packages are regular ones;

or there are more ?
MetaROUTERs ? what is that ?

Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:15 pm

I suspect Mikrotik Metarouters are the equivalent of:

Cisco VRF's
Juniper Virtual Routers
Fortinet Virtual Domains

e.g. a wholly separate routing engine, this is highly useful for security purposes and in complex BGP/OSPF environments.

exe · Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:45 pm

What will be major upgrade in v4.0? Kernel? 802.11N ? ...?

mimbach · Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:31 am

Metarouter is amazing! The power and functionality this adds in a large deployment like ours is exactly what we need.
We have so many large scale customers that this will be perfect for, especially how we run their traffic over our network.
Mikrotik team thank you! We are excited for this to be stable and will be testing away. We already have it up and running on two routers and on monday will extend it to two test customers if we don't find any problems between now and then.

mimbach · Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:43 am

Does 4.0b1 have the x86 timing problem?

merlinthemagic · Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:44 am

when installing the routeing-test and the mpls-beta packages we start seeing packet loss across the network. When setting the propagate-ttl=no nothing seems to happen, traceroute still shows hops except for the timeouts from the packetloss.

setup is the same as you have in all your documents. (R1-R2-R3-R4-R5 + R3-R5).

Will a supout help?

MM

merlinthemagic · Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:10 pm

correction, i was not aware that the propagate-ttl=no is nogotiated from the ingress router downstream to all LSR's in the LSP.
By installing the Mpls-Beta only on the edge and leaving all other (all Provider Routers) with the stock 3.17 mpls + routing modules and only setting the propagate-ttl=no only on the edge it works as it should.

But the problem with packetloss if routing-test and the mpls-beta is installed on any of the Provider routers in the LSP still exist. There is no problem as long as the betas are installed on the edge.

Sorry for the misinformation about the propagate-ttl.

MM

tomekmak · Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:56 pm

is there any chance to fix torrent ? .... still 99,8%....

Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:47 am

torrent should be fixed, and will seed further.

odie · Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:30 am

thanks a lot !!!

Mplsguy · Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:40 pm

correction, i was not aware that the propagate-ttl=no is nogotiated from the ingress router downstream to all LSR's in the LSP.

Actually propagate-ttl is not negotiated in any way - to have consistent behaviour across your network you have to set it up the same on all routers in MPLS cloud. At least in ingress and egress ones, because propagate-ttl is used on router that pushes first label on layer-3 packet (ingress) and removes last label (egress).

rodneal · Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:42 pm

Why can I NOT drag and drop v3.17 to my v3.16/15 systems in files list?? It has a circle with a line thru it??
And my download button doesn't work now in files list - the one that down loaded the corrupt version of .17 last nite.

Thank you,
Rod

OK - followup - FTP in Dude works great!!! Any idea how I can do all the units at the same time???
Besides setting the scheduler - that is.
Thank you,
Rod

deh384 · Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:37 am

Similar to Xen, but MetaRouter is used for the RB400 series boards to create a
virtual routers. Go into the '/metarouter' menu and there you will find the
info. When creating a new router you only need to specify the amount of RAM,
it will automatically choose how much disk to use.
Haven't had the time to play around with it...

Is the METAROUTER only for the RB400 series?

mimbach · Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:54 am

We are experiencing scripting problems. Is this expected?

mknnoc · Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:12 pm

is it possible to change User Manager Logo in ROS4.0?

Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:30 pm

is it possible to change User Manager Logo in ROS4.0?

It's not recommended to use Usermanager in v4, it's not finished and might have problems. If you want to use Usermanager, use v3 please

Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:09 pm

Metarouter is amazing! The power and functionality this adds in a large deployment like ours is exactly what we need.
We have so many large scale customers that this will be perfect for, especially how we run their traffic over our network.
Mikrotik team thank you! We are excited for this to be stable and will be testing away. We already have it up and running on two routers and on monday will extend it to two test customers if we don't find any problems between now and then.

Any clues how to set up interfaces ? I want to try it on an RB493

I've created the a metarouter and got into its console

I just need a hint on how to use /metarouter interface

Nick.

anjey · Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:13 pm

when issue with xen and queues will be fixed?

thx

Chupaka · Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:50 pm

when issue with xen and queues will be fixed?

xen is highly experimental =)

p.s. is MetaROUTER a former xen?

janisk · Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:41 pm

MetaRouter is XEN-like hypervizor , but it is tailored for use on MIPSBE RouterBoards. it does not use extra harddrive storage to store system files. Basically, all is needed is more space to store new configuration, because at boot, it loads same RouterOS that is on the nand already, just need separate memory to load it.

Chupaka · Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:22 pm

will MetaRouter work on x86 architecture?

gustkiller · Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:15 pm

bgp + ospf = stop working after two days and causes cpu to get 100% 4.0beta1

Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:57 pm

bgp + ospf = stop working after two days and causes cpu to get 100% 4.0beta1

please report to support@mikrotik.com with the support output file about this problem.

gustkiller · Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:01 pm

bgp + ospf = stop working after two days and causes cpu to get 100% 4.0beta1
please report to support@mikrotik.com with the support output file about this problem.

sent!

janisk · Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:42 pm

will MetaRouter work on x86 architecture?

no, metarouter will not be on x86 because on x86 you got XEN

Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:24 pm

Any clues how to set up interfaces ? I want to try it on an RB493

I've created the a metarouter and got into its console

I just need a hint on how to use /metarouter interface

Nick.

Please please please can someone provide some docs for metarouter...

janisk · Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:42 pm

it is configured similar to xen on x86, just you do not create disk image for it.

you can easily just follow xen wiki document

Chupaka · Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:01 pm

is it possible to port MetaRouter to x86? sounds good - no additional storage needed compared with xen =)

Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:25 pm

it is configured similar to xen on x86, just you do not create disk image for it.
you can easily just follow xen wiki document

All I want to know is how to use the /metarouter interface commands to set up interfaces between real and virtual routers.

Why can't someone just provide a simple example ?

And no this is not documented in the xen wiki !

I can create virtual routers, I can configure them, I just can't work out the interface mapping.

Nick.

Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:19 pm

After some playing I've managed to work out some of it, I've created a wiki page:

http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MetaRouter

Be nice if people could add more detail to it....

Nick.

sacwireless · Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:10 am

MetaRouter is an awesome idea extended from the xen option of creating RouterOS VM's instantly, but seems a little limited in resources by only supporting the RB400 series. Any plans on supporting the RB600 or RB1000 that would have more memory and storage available to use the solution in say a Data Center? We use the RB1000 and RB600 for some managed customer router and firewalls now, and are about to put together a dual proc x86 system to use RouterOS with Xen to create virtual RouterOS instances for customers, would be nice to just use the higher end RB's.

amtisrac · Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:36 pm

find command does'nt work by simple queue (console) (3.17)
Nothing happened

Please fix it!

mrz · Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:40 pm

Works for me.
What command you are using?

amtisrac · Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:49 pm

for example

[admin@teszt mikrotik] > queue simple print 
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid, D - dynamic 
 0    name="queue1" target-addresses=10.10.1.1/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 interface=all parent=none direction=both priority=8 
      queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=128000/256000 burst-limit=0/0 burst-threshold=0/0 burst-time=0s/0s 
      total-queue=default-small 
[admin@teszt mikrotik] > /queue simple set [find target-addresses=10.10.1.1 ] disabled=yes
[admin@teszt mikrotik] > /queue simple print 
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid, D - dynamic 
 0    name="queue1" target-addresses=10.10.1.1/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 interface=all parent=none direction=both priority=8 
      queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=128000/256000 burst-limit=0/0 burst-threshold=0/0 burst-time=0s/0s 
      total-queue=default-small 
[admin@teszt mikrotik] > disabled by hand
bad command name disabled (line 1 column 1)
[admin@teszt mikrotik] > queue simple print 
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid, D - dynamic 
 0 X  name="queue1" target-addresses=10.10.1.1/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 interface=all parent=none direction=both priority=8 
      queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=128000/256000 burst-limit=0/0 burst-threshold=0/0 burst-time=0s/0s 
      total-queue=default-small 
[admin@teszt mikrotik] >

mrz · Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:47 pm

look at target address fields 10.10.1.1 and 10.10.1.1/32 are not the same.

You should use

/queue simple set [find target-addresses=10.10.1.1/32 ] disabled=yes

amtisrac · Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:39 pm

look at target address fields 10.10.1.1 and 10.10.1.1/32 are not the same.

You should use
Code: Select all
/queue simple set [find target-addresses=10.10.1.1/32 ] disabled=yes

On older version 10.10.1.1 and 10.10.1.1/32 are the same. Ok, I will use the /32 format. Tested and working with the older version

Ozelo · Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:54 pm

After implemented the new feature to have multiples OSPF instances in routing-test package, have anyone seen this? Specificly, the ip route entry number 44 that appears in blue color on winbox. Wierd, isnt?

41 ADo 192.44.190.15/32 200.28.107.209 ... 110
42 ADo 192.44.190.16/32 200.28.107.209 ... 110
43 ADC 192.44.190.17/32 200.28.107.213 <pppoe-lancerne... 0
44 DoU 192.44.190.17/32 109
45 ADo 192.44.190.18/32 200.28.107.209 ... 110
46 ADo 192.44.190.19/32 200.28.107.209 ... 110

Thanks

jmcarvalho · Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:19 pm

I installed the Dude in the RB-600 vs 3.17, but neither the certificates, or images and mibs appear. I tried to move or copy this items but it was not possible too.

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