It is auto completing. How do I turn this off???? Please

create main queue with 100% upload or download respectively. then make child queues,

• * queue for ping, high priority, 1% of traffic

• * queue for http, high priority -1, say, % depending on speed for example 1MB/s and that is 40%

• * queue for the rest of traffic

all that for download, upload

that way, if no one uses ICMP and TCP-HTTP you have 100 - 40 -1 % of your BW used = 59%

then, when you have some "hardcore http surfers" you will use 99% of traffic, and then, if someone start using icmp he will get last 1% for ICMP

...

also - parent queue have to have match all the traffic that will go for child queues

YES we can let the side car to enter the road even if its 100% , a police man can stop the side line making a space for this car ... right ? this police man what i'm searching for ..

yeah, right. but, as I said, this policeman had to be _before_ the side road, i.e. at your provider's devices

i think if you just do the queue tree and the MAIN QUEUE for upload and the MAIN QUEUE for download for an example 95% of your total down/up bandwitdth the priorities and qos should work better coz they will have some room to work.

...
Another thing to mention is I've noticed some internet service providers are already doing their own internal QoS I noticed this on my home internet connection. This made it a bit more difficult as I had no idea what they were in fact doing. So if you are using a generic cable/DSL connection to the internet for your backbone to your wireless network it may be worth asking them if they apply any QoS, or if the modem unit they provided you does.

Cheers

I shape Inbound Traffic
The key is to set your upper limit about 15% lower than your service can push.
so if I had 10Mbps from my supplier I would set my top to 9Mbps.
It does work perfect, I light user has 10ms ping, the hog user when he uses torrent gets 1000+ms ping.

This is probably the best idea I've seen yet, nowhere near as complicated as shaping outbound pps and makes sense that it allows a margin for any new traffic/connections you can't control straight up. You do however need a connection that has a set limit (eg this wouldn't work as well on an contentioned connection as you aren't guranteed the bandwidth)

...But what if our ISP has MikroTik as well and prioritizes packets as well? How will this affect our results on our end? My guess is - we will see poor/different results and start to think it does not work.

Why is this? What is the IP theory behind this? What can we do to avoid this? What can we do to detect this? What would be the best practice in this case?...

i think if you just do the queue tree and the MAIN QUEUE for upload and the MAIN QUEUE for download for an example 95% of your total down/up bandwitdth the priorities and qos should work better coz they will have some room to work.

Here's a question: How to properly adjust pcq-lmit and pcq-total-limit according to one's situation? And what results to expect?

Each simple queue creates 3 separate queues:
One in global-in (“direct” part)
One in Global-out (“reverse” part)
One in Global-total (“total” part)
Simple queues are ordered - similar to firewall rules
further down = longer packet processing
further down = smaller chance to get traffic
(necessary to reduce number of queues)

Queuing Placement
Limitation for in mangle chain “forward” marked traffic can be placed in the “global-out” or interface queue

If queues will be placed in the interface queues
queues on the public interface will capture only client upload
queues on the local interface will capture only client's download

If queues will be placed in global-out
download and upload will be limited together (separate marks needed)

http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Queue#Queue_Tree
Queue tree creates a unidirectional queue in one of the HTBs. It is also the only way to add a queue on a separate interface. This way it is possible to ease mangle configuration - you don't need separate marks for download and upload - only upload will get to Public interface and only download will get to Private interface.
Also it is possible to have double queuing (example: prioritization of traffic in global-in or global-out, limitation per client on the outgoing interface). If you have simple queues and queue tree in the same HTB - simple queues will get traffic first.
Queue tree is not ordered - all traffic passes it together (unlike simple queue).

You have to avoid configuration, when the same traffic is limited in 'queue simple' and 'queue tree'.
Use 'queue simple' entries only, if you have dynamic PPP queues created.
Add static entries to 'queue simple', when you need advanced QoS scenarios (packet-mark is available there too).
Make sure that static queues for specific services are placed before dynamic queues (that match all traffic), rule order is important.

Try it, if all works fine - leave it that way. Sergej probably meant that it's not Best Practice to do it (in his opinion. probably may have later complications and more CPU and mem usage of router, etc, etc) but if it works - nothing can stop you from using it. May become your Best Practice he he.

here i use queue tree to make priority and limit maximum speed per protocols globaly ( p2p, http , email and ...) and simple queues to limit user speeds

here i use queue tree to make priority and limit maximum speed per protocols globaly ( p2p, http , email and ...) and simple queues to limit user speeds

Can you explain your mangle rules please.

add action=mark-packet chain=prerouting comment="pop3" disabled=no in-interface=wan new-packet-mark=pop3_in \
    passthrough=no protocol=tcp src-port=110 
add action=mark-packet chain=postrouting comment="" disabled=no dst-port=110 new-packet-mark=pop3_out out-interface=wan \
    passthrough=no protocol=tcp 

1. Delete any layer 7 rules that are there now.

2. Paste as following: do not type anything in, just paste:

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Hah. I thought I am clear. Let's start with biggest problem: imesh rule (and/or others) crashes RouterOS. And I can get the QoS to work that's not the point