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northman
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Choosing right RB for domestic wireless net.

Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:30 pm

We have:
- two balconies on the same side of beton building. One on 1st floor and another on 5-th floor, horizontal distance is about 80m.
- an unexpensive Wi-Fi USB stick external adaptor. To catch the signal more effectively, I connected it to PC with ~1.5m length USB cable and put this stick on the window glass with scotch tape. :)
- Internet connection up to 5Mbit (DSL) is on the 1st floor.

We need:
- establish wireless link between these two points to share Internet with apartment on 5th floor;
- equal bandwidth sharing, for example when both sides using it for maximum speed downloading huge files, so it must be shared 50% / 50%, or even when there are 3 wi-fi connections, so it would be 33/33/33 .., etc. I have positive experience configuring RB450 such a way according to this doc:
http://www.mikrotik.com/testdocs/ros/3. ... t.php#.6.3 -- pls see chapter "Equal bandwidth sharing among users". Question: would it work the same way for Wi-Fi connections?
- QoS, to be able to give the priority for special kind of traffic, for example to give the highest priority to VoIP, Skype, Yahoo messenger (voice), etc.

Problem:
- I have LinkSys WRT54GL router, and trying to test the signal: when I put this router inside the apt which is on the 1st floor, then I have no signal on 5-st flr. If I put the same router on the balcony of the 1st flr, then on the 5th flr I see very weak and unstable signal, it's almost useless. The problem is that WRT is not for outdoor use. It can do some QoS-ing (Tomato 1.23 firmware), but it seems can not do "equal band sharing". I was checking several third party's firmwares for this feature -- none of them seem having it... The another drawback of WRT -- it's has no PoE feature.
Finally I came to solution to buy appropriate MT RB + some Wi-Fi radio card + put it inside some kind of case which would be good for outdoor installation. It going to be only 40-60$ more expensive than WRT54, but it seems like good solution.

Here are my questions to you, dear reader :
1) Which one model would be good enough for my needs
- RouterBOARD 411 with Level 3 License WISP-CPE
OR
- RouterBOARD 411A with Level 4 License WISP-AP ? -- ..It's about +25$ more expensive here in Canada than just RB411.
2) Keeping in mind the results of test with WRT, it's apparently that its two stock antennas 3dBi each are not enough. I guess I need two times stronger signal. There are some radio cards in stock at the same supplier (Xagyl) here (pls, do not consider these URLs like ads... I post it just to have advice like to have reasonable balance of price/features...) :
- Compex WLM54G23 WLM54 200mW 802.11b/g miniPCI ( least expensive, only $26.00 - $28.00)
here is technical description: http://www.xagyl.com/catalog/product_in ... ucts_id=64
- Wistron CM9 CM9 802.11a/b/g miniPCI Radio Card $30.00 - $35.00
http://www.xagyl.com/catalog/product_in ... ucts_id=48
-- or something else unexpensive... Maybe you advice? :)
3) Some kind of directional or omnidirectional (?) antenna about 10dBi..?

Thank you if you have read this my long msg.

Looking for your reply, advice...
 
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Re: Choosing right RB for domestic wireless net.

Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:24 am

For connecting only one wireless device L3 license is enough, but plan ahead, maybe you will want to use the router for connecting some other devices, and then you will _not_ be able to upgrade the license. a new L4 license will cost you 45$ US then. So, plan ahead.

Yes, the cheapest RB411 will be perfect, but you will need some kind of antenna that is designed for point to point. Some companies sell outdoor cases with built-in antenna for RB411 for very cheap prices, something like this:

http://www.wirelesslan.pl/product_info. ... rb411-133c

this could reach several kilometers if the other side would have the same router :)

either of those wireless cards will suit your needs.

more links to companies selling small antennas for RouterBOARD: http://www.mikrotik.com/mfm.php
 
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Re: Choosing right RB for domestic wireless net.

Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:40 pm

thank you, normis

the last one question: how RB411 would work together with NanoStation2 on the other side for the same installation? I suspect that there is still small possibility of unstability problem with just USB wi-fi stick on the other side (5th floor window), so I consider to solve it by use of NS2, which would be nice and ready for outdoor use.
 
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Re: Choosing right RB for domestic wireless net.

Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:56 pm

Yes, NS will work well as a client. The USB stick is probably the bottleneck as it has superlimited range