Please make the support output file from your PowerPC AP when you see worse throughput with the new test package. Send it to support@mikrotik.comI have put this package on ~20 various AP's and it has tremendously improved AP's and customer performace on mipsbe and mipsle chipsets only. On PowerPC units with Nstreme on it has absolutely destroyed the throughput, latency and jitter.
Has anyone else seen this?
Steve
Pocketinet Communications
When was the rebuild of the wireless-test package? i downloaded theses in 10/20/2008...We have updated the wireless-test package. Please download them again, upgrade your routers and report back how it is working.
did it create an autosupout.rif file? if yes then please email it to support@mikrotik.comthey were updateted yesterday.
We tested them on three wireless router and only on one we had a little isse about changing on the fly the Hardware Retries, it crashed the router.
Disabling the interface changing the parameter and then re enabling the wireless worked around the problem.
The performance of last build is fantastic.
GREAT WORK MT.
Regards
Ros
Yes, send the support output file to support@mikrotik.com when you see this problem with the wireless-test package. Make sure that you use the latest wireless-test package that is posted here in the forum.First, GREAT improvements on the NStreme package. Lower ping times (100ms to 20ms or so with 50 clients). Major improvements. Jitter is still not totally consistent, but better.
I am seeing low up times (connectivity from clients). I have been on 3.10 and uptimes of days (30-80 days continuous). Now on 3.15 with the test package, I see maybe an hr then they all re-connect. Only a few stay connected at 1 hr or more.
Anyone else see low client connection times? Should I sent a support file?
Eric
I am seeing low up times (connectivity from clients). I have been on 3.10 and uptimes of days (30-80 days continuous). Now on 3.15 with the test package, I see maybe an hr then they all re-connect. Only a few stay connected at 1 hr or more.
Anyone else see low client connection times?
please send the support output files from your routers where you have installed the wireless-test package to support@mikrotik.com so we could check how well it is working.
I ment everyoneplease send the support output files from your routers where you have installed the wireless-test package to support@mikrotik.com so we could check how well it is working.
do you mean everyone who has it installed, or are you just referring to peavys?
03:47:11 wireless,info 00:0B:6B:86:xx:xx@GLOBAL STOZER 2 - Bugojno: disconnected, extensive data loss
03:47:16 wireless,info 00:0B:6B:86:xx:xx@GLOBAL STOZER 2 - Bugojno: connected, wants WDS
05:00:16 wireless,info 00:0B:6B:86:xx:xx@GLOBAL STOZER 2 - Bugojno: disconnected, extensive data loss
05:00:21 wireless,info 00:0B:6B:86:xx:xx@GLOBAL STOZER 2 - Bugojno: connected, wants WDS
05:59:45 wireless,info 00:0B:6B:86:xx:xx@GLOBAL STOZER 2 - Bugojno: disconnected, extensive data loss
05:59:50 wireless,info 00:0B:6B:86:xx:xx@GLOBAL STOZER 2 - Bugojno: connected, wants WDS
06:07:13 wireless,info 00:0B:6B:86:xx:xx@GLOBAL STOZER 2 - Bugojno: disconnected, extensive data loss
06:07:19 wireless,info 00:0B:6B:86:xx:xx@GLOBAL STOZER 2 - Bugojno: connected, wants WDS
07:01:51 wireless,info 00:0B:6B:86:xx:xx@GLOBAL STOZER 2 - Bugojno: disconnected, extensive data loss
07:01:56 wireless,info 00:0B:6B:86:xx:xx@GLOBAL STOZER 2 - Bugojno: connected, wants WDS
08:44:13 wireless,info 00:0B:6B:86:xx:xx@GLOBAL STOZER 2 - Bugojno: disconnected, extensive data loss
08:44:18 wireless,info 00:0B:6B:86:xx:xx@GLOBAL STOZER 2 - Bugojno: connected, wants WDS
08:57:41 wireless,info 00:0B:6B:86:xx:xx@GLOBAL STOZER 2 - Bugojno: disconnected, extensive data loss
08:57:46 wireless,info 00:0B:6B:86:xx:xx@GLOBAL STOZER 2 - Bugojno: connected, wants WDS
11:02:59 wireless,info 00:0B:6B:86:xx:xx@GLOBAL STOZER 2 - Bugojno: disconnected, extensive data loss
11:03:04 wireless,info 00:0B:6B:86:xx:xx@GLOBAL STOZER 2 - Bugojno: connected, wants WDS
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Please provide us with the support output files from your RB333 where you see instability. We need one support output file with wireles-test where you see those disconnects and one with the regular wireless package that is running fine.RB532 with 3.16 wireless-test:
Impressive improvement on connection... It's stable and excellent ping.. 100%CPU though...
RB333 with 3.16 wireless-test:
Good improvement on connections.. but it's too much instable... Clients keep disconnecting "Extensive data loss". When i rollback on wireless normal package, those Clients are stable. CPU 100%
RB532 got 2x AR5006X 802.11abg NIC (rev: 1)
RB333 got 3x AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev: 1)
Sent.Please provide us with the support output files from your RB333 where you see instability. We need one support output file with wireles-test where you see those disconnects and one with the regular wireless package that is running fine.RB532 with 3.16 wireless-test:
Impressive improvement on connection... It's stable and excellent ping.. 100%CPU though...
RB333 with 3.16 wireless-test:
Good improvement on connections.. but it's too much instable... Clients keep disconnecting "Extensive data loss". When i rollback on wireless normal package, those Clients are stable. CPU 100%
RB532 got 2x AR5006X 802.11abg NIC (rev: 1)
RB333 got 3x AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev: 1)
Also did you see this issue with v3.15 wireless-test package?
Same in my case, x86 Core2 Duo. Clock is much faster, although ping seems to be smaller and performances better. Can you resolve this with clock, please? I will let you know is something else goes bad.Done, I sent both supout files. I allso noticed that on wireless-test package clock is very fast. He's showing 10-15 secs in 1 "real" second
use a script to automagically switch on the client side:Uldis,
will there be the possibility to do a mixed Nstream/Non Nstream Segment.
At the moment we use Nstream only for Backhaul links.
So when this new version is leaving test-state we want to switch to Nstream.
But we cannot migrate all clients at once so for a limited time we need to
run both modes at once.
Another (better) solution would be when clients (all MT) have a autodetection
and switch Nstream on/off as needed to connect to the ap. In this scenario
we would update all clients and then turn Nstream on at the AP.
Regards,
Stefan
/system script
add name="ChangeBand" \
source=":local delais 5s\r\n:local liste 2.4ghz-b/g,2ghz-5mhz,2ghz-10mhz;\r\n \
\r\n:foreach band in=\$liste \
do={\r\n:if (![/interface wireless get wlan1 running]) do={\r\n/interface \
wireless set wlan1 band=\$band\r\n:delay \$delais\r\n}\r\n}\r\n\r\n:if \
(![/interface wireless get wlan1 running]) \\\r\ndo={\r\n :if \
[/interface wireless nstreme get wlan1 enable-nstreme] \\\r\n do={\r\n \
/interface wireless nstreme set wlan1 enable-nstreme=no\r\n } \
else={\r\n /interface wireless nstreme set wlan1 \
enable-nstreme=yes\r\n }\r\n}"
/system scheduler
add comment="" disabled=no interval=20s name="schedcheckWifi" \
on-event=ChangeBand start-time=startup
I think the client will not see each other in Network Neighbour...but at IP level data will pass, ofcourse.I posted this already in the wireless parent of this thread before I saw this... Just wanted to put it here too seemed like the right place...
Either my understanding needs adjustment or the option doesn't work as expected...
Using wireless test 3.17 on ap and clients i check and uncheck the default forward option on the ap and it makes no difference. Either way broadcast and normal ip traffic pass to all clients of the ap. From my understanding unchecking the DEFAULT FORWARD option would prevent traffic from passing from one client to another.
The AP is normal AP mode with default set to add all clients to wds bridge1 as well as the ethernet and wlan1 interfaces added... Make the ap act like any other trango etc ap just passing traffic from wireless to ethernet interface.
The clients are all station wds setup same as ap - one bridge eith ap added ad wds dynamically and eth1 and wlan1 added as well... again just passing traffic though to router behind the radio.
Thanks,
Scott
Please make the support output file and send it to support@mikrotik.comWireless test package 3.18 have same clock problems as previous versions!!!
I could not reproduce this problem.In 3-18-test mipsbe hit reset configuration on wireless and winbox closes and it does not reset. Confirmed multiple instances of this behavior.
Scott
I've used it in house. Frequency usage shows no other equipment. If interference it's self-interference.I have "lost connection not polled for too long" error too when using 3.18 wireless-test if there are interferences, using regular package is working quite well, even multiple links on the same frequency. So it seems wireless-test is not very good if you don't have a clean spectrum, which in our area is impossible (usually we see at least 15-25 radios active on 5.5-5.7 ghz band).
Regards,
Giorgio
Try to enable the multi-cpu option to yes.I still have a problem with clock issue. ROS 3.20 x86 celeron 1,7 GHz.
what exactly isn't working?how can I roll back to my 3.10 package? 3.20 isnt working welll for me. I downloaded 3.13 and would like to try that one.
You still need to use wireless-test package if you want to get those benefits that are discussed in theis topic.do we still need the wireless test package for 3.22 ?? or we use the normal wireless package (in 3.22) ?? what i mean is the new nstream technology.
Why do you think it's called a "test package"? Because it's a test package.Actually which version of the test package is reliable now???
And, how i going to have the test package? just a concern is, our link is in live network and easily running about 40Mbps, will it take risk if i load the say firmware??
I have installed ROS V3.27 on a PtMP Installation (411A as AP; 1xRB532 Client; 1x RB333 Client; 1x RB433 Client) with wireless test package and got the same problems. Without nstreme enabled it worked. Also with nstreme enabled BUT Polling disabeld it worked. When nstreme with Polling is enabled, the 3 clients disconnects all the time (every ~10-30sec) withzaltec wrote:
I have "lost connection not polled for too long" error too when using 3.18 wireless-test if there are interferences, using regular package is working quite well, even multiple links on the same frequency. So it seems wireless-test is not very good if you don't have a clean spectrum, which in our area is impossible (usually we see at least 15-25 radios active on 5.5-5.7 ghz band).
Regards,
Giorgio
I've used it in house. Frequency usage shows no other equipment. If interference it's self-interference.
I used 5,5 and 5,7 for the 2 connections. All cards are R52.
Regards,
Stefan
Client-Log:wireless,info 00:0B:XX:XX:XX:XX@wlan_xr5_ptp_sektor: disconnected, extensive data loss
We have also more then one Link on this location, but the next Links are on 5600 MHz and 5810 MHz.wireless,info 00:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX@wlan_r52_wka: lost connection, not polled for too long
.wireless,info 00:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX@wlan_r52_wka: lost connection, not polled for too long
For comletness: Point to Point or Multipoint? I'm asking as v4.5 nstreme does not work for me (WDS/PtM; XR9) and I'm looking for best alternative. At the moment I'm considering v4.5 at end points and v3.3 at the base...With or without nstreme, polling, etc.
Thanks for the info. I did not think wireless config reset would work sice I upgraded boards to v4.x before configuring any wireless on them but I'll try it. I get unusable link ~500kbps with nstreme v4.5 on. Wereas I get ~12-20Mbps, >90 CCQ with nstreme turned off (not bad for 900MHz) I don't really need nstreme at this time (noise floor @89dB) however, we got MT product because of nstreme and frame protection so it better deliver.I'm deploying wireless-test since the first release and i love it,
it tolerates less the bad links (that's why you say the normal package is more reliable), but those links are working bad anyway. If you raise the hw-retries, you get the same result as the normal package.
About 4.x, i had some problems at the beginning. i found out that a reset-configuration of the wireless interface fixes all the troubles. Of course the link must be good! Otherwise raise the hw-retries once again and it becomes magically more stable, but with a awful jitter.
My links are all deployed with hw-retries=4 and if it doesn't work i go to fix it and replace with a better link.