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Is it true that legends PCC working well than NTH?

Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:36 am

Is there any one have the experiences of these two manners of equal-load-balance? Share your view with us please. I want true experience not just theories.
 
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Re: Is it true that legends PCC working well than NTH?

Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:47 am

Uhm, why are "true experiences" better than sound theory based on how networks work? PCC is better than Nth. Nth interrupts connections. PCC does not.

PCC is less equal than Nth because it identifies connections and not every Nth packet. The more connections you have the more equal traffic will be spread.
 
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Re: Is it true that legends PCC working well than NTH?

Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:59 am

you are so kindly, thank you much.
 
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Re: Is it true that legends PCC working well than NTH?

Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:32 pm

But will you still get max speed?
e.g. with my Nth balancing so far, I have 6 lines balanced. If I download a file with a download manager, I get combined speed of all lines, but with PCC you will only get max speed of the line you are routed through to that dst-address?
Right?

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Re: Is it true that legends PCC working well than NTH?

Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:44 pm

Yes.

But that isn't really load balancing, that's bonding.
 
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Re: Is it true that legends PCC working well than NTH?

Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:49 pm

Not really, as I do not get one 'pipe', just every connection that the download manager makes goes through a different line.
 
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Re: Is it true that legends PCC working well than NTH?

Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:24 pm

Nth grabs every Nth packet of a connection. PCC grabs one connection. If your download manager opens more than one connection you can use more than one pipe.
 
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Re: Is it true that legends PCC working well than NTH?

Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:39 pm

Ok cool. Which policy would be best suited?
both addresses, address/port,etc.
 
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Re: Is it true that legends PCC working well than NTH?

Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:46 pm

Depends on what you are trying to achieve.
 
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Re: Is it true that legends PCC working well than NTH?

Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:35 pm

Nth grabs every Nth packet of a connection
wrong. you cannot send one packet via first ADSL connection, and another packet of the same IP connection via another ADSL line. Nth is like PCC with classifier=both-addresses-and-ports. with the same cons and pros
 
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Re: Is it true that legends PCC working well than NTH?

Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:45 pm

Yes and no. When I said it grabs every Nth packet of a connection I was wrong. It grabs every Nth packet investigated by the algorithm. So you can use it to
mark alternating TCP SYNs to mark connections like with PCC. But you have to do all the manual housekeeping.
 
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Re: Is it true that legends PCC working well than NTH?

Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:00 pm

NTH is not a good solution, I have tried it just now,when I use NTH load balance,some applications like Web bank,can't log on. I have heard other peoples said that only PCC balance can solve these problem, is it true?
 
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Re: Is it true that legends PCC working well than NTH?

Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:05 pm

yep, and ekkas was talking that his Nth setup sends each new connection of his download manager to different gateway
 
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Re: Is it true that legends PCC working well than NTH?

Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:05 pm

I have heard other peoples said that only PCC balance can solve these problem, is it true?
PCC with classifier=both-addresses
 
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Re: Is it true that legends PCC working well than NTH?

Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:16 pm

I have heard other peoples said that only PCC balance can solve these problem, is it true?
PCC with classifier=both-addresses
What does it mean? Can you explain in detail please?
 
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Re: Is it true that legends PCC working well than NTH?

Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:30 pm

And I want to know that does the PCC is the perfect and ultimate solution of load balance?
 
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Re: Is it true that legends PCC working well than NTH?

Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:56 pm

I've been running Nth for about 2 years now over at first 4 lines and now over 6. Just have to force https (port 443, 8443 traffic) to go over 1 WAN then all is fine. I also have a dst-address list for a few websites that do not use https but need persistent IPs to work. That means that all banking will go over 1 WAN, the rest Load balanced and it worked very well, but I'll try PPC tonight and wait for the calls to come in, hopefully none.
 
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Re: Is it true that legends PCC working well than NTH?

Sat Dec 12, 2009 2:00 pm

Have you tried PCC tonight? What the result is it? I am waiting your experiences. and what is the exacting meaning of "wait for the calls to come in"?
 
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Re: Is it true that legends PCC working well than NTH?

Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:29 pm

calls to his tech support: 'My Internet is not working!' ))
 
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Re: Is it true that legends PCC working well than NTH?

Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:43 am

I tried PCC as per the wiki, over 6 lines and I'm not happy so far.
I used per-connection-classifier=both-addresses but then ALL traffic to an address-pair goes through one line. I can download 3 different files from the same website, each with 4 connections (download manager)and all those connections seem to go through one WAN. With PCC I download 3 files at combined speed of about 1Mbps (my slowest ADSL), those same 3 files fly over at 10Mbps (all lines combined gives 12Mbps theoretical max.)
So I'm back on Nth for now...

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Re: Is it true that legends PCC working well than NTH?

Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:21 am

sure, if it's for 10 users w/o serious https sites - then Nth is better =)
 
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Re: Is it true that legends PCC working well than NTH?

Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:30 am

If I set connection-state=new (not in wiki?) then it seems to give me also fast downloads. Two banking sites work ok so far, waiting for the one that usually gives a problem to come online.
 
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Re: Is it true that legends PCC working well than NTH?

Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:40 pm

If I set connection-state=new
is it about PCC?.. should not change anything %)