Hello to all,

I'll go to the MUM and I'll make a training before.

I want to inform people that will do the training and go to the MUM that is cheaper to make the reservation of the hotel directly in the website hotel.

Special price for the MUM assistants is 375 PLN, but as you can see, it's cheaper if you make it in the website (310PLN tax and breakfast included):

This is my receipt:

I saved about 110 € in total : P!
ALSO IF YOU PAY ONLY 1 NIGHT, IT'S CHEAPER THAN THE "SPECIAL" PRICE, the difference is to pay the day you arrive to the hotel or to pay now. If you pay now you save a lot of money but if finally you can't go to the MUM, you'll lose this paid money.


I hope this help all of you.

thanks, I stickied this topic, and changed the MUM page description also.

huh, AFAIR in Prague, special price was ~20% lower that usual one. as for Poland, the price is really 'special'

freeload is over, '2 nights getaway' was closed, so 'special price' of 365 PLN/night is the lowest again =(

I am sure you can find something cheaper in poland if i get any offer i will post it here

for example in Rzeszów cheapest "hotel";p cost about 30zł without meals and there is plenty places were you can eat for less then 40 zł for dinner

You just have to know where to look for it:)

The promotion "Winter Promotion - Chilled Rates 3=2" looks the cheapest

as far as I can see, there's only 'Hot deals - no change, no cancellation' and 'Best Unrestricted Rate' now in online booking. both are more expensive than 'special offer' =)

Just booked my hotel through http://www.staypoland.com.

Found what looks to be a nice little place a short walk away and have booked three nights for PLN597 including breakfast (as opposed to the main hotel's price of PLN1090 including breakfast).

Just booked from hotel website, 3 night (28-1-2-3) for 894PL, good price!

now i'm looking fro transport from airport to hotel!

Just booked from hotel website, 3 night (28-1-2-3) for 894PL, good price!

Breakfast extra: 54.98 PLN / day / adult

Just booked from hotel website, 3 night (28-1-2-3) for 894PL, good price!

Breakfast extra: 54.98 PLN / day / adult

yes, breakfast is very expensive, but usually i don't make breakfast at morning..

in Wroclaw you can find without any problem hostel for about 40-50zl for a night without breakfast ;)

yahooo ))) just checked in to the hotel - and found the bug in the washstand ))) such a moustached... wanted to take a photo, but he run away in the sewerage

are you already here?

yep, I'll go down in 10 minutes ))

can anyone see the live video stream in tiktube.com ? internet upload is terrible so far

can anyone see the live video stream in tiktube.com ?

Yup.
A bit choppy though sometimes.

made some QoS for the stream, see if it's better now people starting to gather, as you see - there is still plenty of beer left

Can't see anything on the tiktube.

sorry, it went offline for a while, it's back

try this: http://www.tiktube.com/?live=live
or this: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/mikrotik
or this: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/mikrotik/v3

Medianet! Ti have dinner at the same time in the same place xD

Shall we upload here some pics Normis? or can you provide us a ftp space?
Martin, i'll try to join you, my friend is just arrived and he's tired. I'll force him to come.

made some QoS for the stream, see if it's better now people starting to gather, as you see - there is still plenty of beer left

No, it's still choppy. Prove to us that Qos works, I'm curious...

QoS works great, but hotel has 512K upload, and there is 5 stories of hotel rooms, speed is split we can only control what's on our router.

....and wee need a Chat

chat is here http://www.ustream.tv/channel/mikrotik/v3

xDDD

MUM Big brother

those will probably more fun the later it gets

it's already 2 hours since they started serving beer

video stream is now improved, and we are live from conference hall. presentations start in 40 minutes

video stream is now improved, and we are live from conference hall. presentations start in 40 minutes

I hope there will be a tiktube available for the first presentation. The live feed is not staying connected.

Tom

Feed is now DEAD...

Just "clocking"..

And I stayed up till 2AM....

Will wait for a bit ....

Wanted to gat a look at the new hardware...



You stream I stream we all can't stream on uStream....

Yeah it's dead here too

If there were some way to relay it, I would volunteer all my (200) megabits.

If there were some way to relay it, I would volunteer all my (200) megabits.

Ahh. That's better!

I rebooted..

It cleared up..

If cant get feed, try reboot ...

It JUST started.. Naormis is kicking it off.... (House keeping items etc..)

RouterOS Ver 5 !!!!

JUST announced !!!

Public beta in two weeks..

Was the RB1100 announced?

Yes RB1100 was announced, not really any news about the CPU that I caught anyway.

Maybe someone else caught it, my stream stopped for about 5 seconds

RB1100 = WIN
RB250GS or whatever.. = MEH. Needs more ports! How about PoE?

I'm pretty impressed with the product announcements overall. Thanks, Mikrotik!

RB1100 will be faster and cheaper than RB1000...no CPU specs given however.

no fans/moving parts

front vents

RB1100 = WIN
RB250GS or whatever.. = MEH. Needs more ports! How about PoE?

I'm pretty impressed with the product announcements overall. Thanks, Mikrotik!

I suppose they are already thinking about this.

Any details to share?

Same enclosure as RB1000?

All gige Ports?

AC or DC input?

SSTP sounds interesting, but I wish Mikrotik would stop adding all these new trendy VPN's and just bring their IPSEC up to scratch!

Hi ginovilla,

Same height 1U,
All gig ports,
no info on power ...

Rgds,
Mark

RB1100 Confirmed:

Same enclosure as RB1000, just more holes for ports and front/rear vented
No fans
Board is much longer to accommodate ports
All ports are gigabit

Any idea on RB1100 Price ?

SOMEONE ASK WHAT CPU THE 1100 USES!

Ok more, there are two switch chips so can have 2x 5port switch groups
also, 1 POE input port

CPU speed is the same as RB800, it has the same CPU...

SOMEONE ASK WHAT CPU THE 1100 USES!

Does the 1100 have switch chips? What's the max throughput/backplane?

Yes, as posted above RB1100 has 2x Attansic switch chips

Also, RB250GS also uses Attansic(Atheros) switch chips.

havent heard that yet...

They need to have some one moniter the forums for questions.....

same as 800

Did mikrotik change directions to concentrate on routing?

Just heard about $500.00 APROX. for the 1100..

Emphisis on the APROX !!

Did mikrotik change directions to concentrate on routing?

I think they're kinda dropping the ball in the wireless area, specifically in the area of newer or innovative technologies that could give them a pretty competitive edge. Hence the question.

Did mikrotik change directions to concentrate on routing?

I think they're kinda dropping the ball in the wireless area, specifically in the area of newer or innovative technologies that could give them a pretty competitive edge. Hence the question.

Bedtime.

Mikrotik already concentrate on routing....

It seems they are trying to widen their potential market by introducing a new switching OS and a 5 port L2 switch to run it, IMHO it seems to small and simple to really be useful . But who knows, they may introduce a 24port version with MSTP support and dual 10 Gig uplinks....

For all of us theat NEED simple , inexpensive network "Probes"...
This is GREAT NEWS !!!

Also some network security devices require a "tap" port to run IE FaceTime..

NICE alternitave to the $1,000 and up tap devices..

Yes some swithes in the mid range can do it... but most are a pain to set up..

Other features look interesting as well..

Need to get one SOON !!!

Did mikrotik change directions to concentrate on routing?

Looks like. No announcement regarding wireless. Just router/switch. No improvements
in 11n. No smart client device with signal leds and Mimo built in. The 1100 seems to be
slower then the RB1000.

I think it's not a real good idea to start building switches. There are a lot of cheap
switches out there. Switch built into router is a good idea as it reduces equipment.
But everybody has a gigabit standalone Switch already.

Thanks it's not Apple. The stocks would drop by 50% immediately.

1ghz

No, but they have been advertising for an RF engineer with antenna design experience. It could be for testing environments, but then it could be for product development....

simply the loads of wireless products were not ready for announcement, don't worry guys

so, how did I do ?

simply the loads of wireless products were not ready for announcement, don't worry guys

But I worry )

so, how did I do ?

Fine! The stream works well. Tell Patrik Schaub to leave his desk and
do some action. People fall asleep ).

Haha, nice one Normis ! I am sure many people are eagerly awaiting the "loads" of new wireless products, may they have many blinking blue LED's

The presentation of the new products was good. What was introduced with the RB1100 was evolutionary rather than revolutionary.

The new product launches appear to be driven by the technical/support teams, maybe a little more sales type info would be useful. e.g. Target markets, Retail price point, Estimated shipping date

The RouterOS 5 information was also good, SSTP will be useful and the improvements in RouterOS's IPv6 implementation is great.

<flamebait> I have never liked the inclusion of OpenVPN in RouterOS, I look forward to seeing it replaced with SSTP </flamebait>

Haha, nice one Normis ! I am sure many people are eagerly awaiting the "loads" of new wireless products, may they have many blinking blue LED's

I like LEDs ) Esp. When they tell: "Power is on and signal is Perfect. Please dont call your wisp".
I love this poe adapters with LED. They solve 80% of my problems with one fast look.

I know the times when every PC has LED Numbers showing the Megahertz it is running at.
People love this stuff.

So Normis bring the 200MBit/s LED to my customers ).

simply the loads of wireless products were not ready for announcement, don't worry guys

so, how did I do ?

I'm not sure what you are asking our opinion on here, but I'll give it a shot:
You personally did great. Your co-workers could (uhhhhh...) use some (uhhhh.....) refinements in public speaking. Though I suspect the pausing is a result of being bi or tri-lingual and getting all the words in a jumble before they exit the queue. =) So, who am I to point the finger? I'm only weakly multi-lingual.

I applaud you all on your hard work a dedication to bring us (unreasonable as we can all be) a great product. Keep it up, guys!

any news on the RB250GS?, please tell me it's a RB450G with 8+ ports......

5 ports just don't cut it for me and adding an 8port gigaswitch does not cut it money and spacewise(think Cisco RV200ish, 16 ports multi-wan router all-independant ports, VPN, ~300$)

Nope. 5 port switch.
I'm not very enthusiastic about it myself, but then again, the switch market is very crowded, especially in the low end.

I agree with Eising about the RB250GS, hence my comment to Normis about target markets.

I am sure if we knew where Mikrotik were aiming to sell this, we could probably sell them.

Medianet! Ti have dinner at the same time in the same place xD

guys, where have you all have been lost? %( today time was changed?

Any details ? Why would you buy a RB250GS instead of a 750G ? Price ? Features ?

We are in piramida restaurant in the center! If you would come, you could go to the center!!

U have my mobile in facebook!

Any details ? Why would you buy a RB250GS instead of a 750G ? Price ? Features ?

instead of? no. 250gs is a switch, not a router. it doesn't route at all =)

MUM Poland PANORAMA http://www.wpanoramie.pl/mum2010/

All mum slides PDF are already online:
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MUM_2010_PL

Some recorded videos here below the live feed:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/mikrotik/v3

most unfortunate, i was really expecting an 8 port+ gigabit routerboard(no, a rb1100 will not work for a soho/home router ) without a 2 digit pricetag, or a 493G without minipci slots, i guess i'll wait for next year to see if they come up with a >5port inexpensive version to consider deployment

more than 8 gigabit port routerboar under 99$ ? I think even chinese switch is more expensive

Any details ? Why would you buy a RB250GS instead of a 750G ? Price ? Features ?

instead of? no. 250gs is a switch, not a router. it doesn't route at all =)

True, but the 750G can also switch, right ?

if you need only switch - then yes...

This one is not found on wiki

http://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/PL10/pina.pdf

My MUM finish now : P!

Thanks to:
"italian style" moments
Italia VS Spain VS Portugal VS Claudio dinners
Anna, our best polish waitress.
Tom, for being as is.
Polish beers
People participating in security presentations
Paulina and the expressos
Normis and the moments like "I'm looking for VISAS"
All the people participating in the presentations
Exhibitors
MKT staff
People hacking in the hotel network
Trainers
The 6 girls that went to the MUM.


I enjoyed this MUM very much : D!


See you next year!

that was absolutely cool!

guys, you are the best! especially "italian style"!

Normis, Janis, Maris, Uldis, Edmunds, Janis, Arnis - personal THANKS! show must go on!

I would love to see a RB493G. Can't wait to see what new wireless products are forthcoming.

true, 12~16 ports gigaswitches price rise exponentially, but i'd be more than happy with an 8 port version, 5 ports is just too few(is the same with an encore adsl modem, 4 ports available), take this example:
1 port lost to modem/wan device
1 port to wifi backhaul/bridge/MAN link
only 3 ports left for computers which in the aforementioned case is more than likely to be present.
that leaves 0 available ports for any other gadget/access point/roaming devices

even if it breaches the $99 mark, as long as it ends up being cheaper than a RB450G(or 750G)+8-port gigaswitch(which runs in the 80~$ range here bringing the total close to 200$) then it's more cost-effective to the customer(and also gives much more control as now i can do rules and access control on a port-based basis and segment the switch as i want that i wouldn't be able to do with a regular switch uplinked to a port on the routerboard), thus my comment about a RB493G without mpci(or one mini-pcie)

more than 8 gigabit port routerboar under 99$ ? I think even chinese switch is more expensive

I would assume that a 750G could do everything that RB250GS can do plus more. A 750G is $70 so is it safe to assume this switch might be down around $50 or so? Personally I would still rather shell out a little more to get the 750G. Also, it would be nice if they had a non-gigabit switch for say $25 that worked in cold and hot temperatures. Sometimes we need a switch outdoors. It will be interesting to see what the temperature rating for the RB250GS is.

Exactly, how many times do you need a managed 5 port switch ? Most of the times unmanaged does the job and those switches are cheap. If I want more functionality I'll prefer to buy a 750G which has all the features I need and even more.

I would directly buy a 24/48 POE port Mikrotik switch if they created one but I'll pass for this one, sorry guys.

I think "those times" are when this switch costs 2x less of RB750G

I think "those times" are when this switch costs 2x less (or even less that) of RB750G

Normis,

Well that's certainly good news, can you tell us whether or not this is meant to work outdoors or perhaps the operating temperatures?

Thank you!

Jason

Normis,

Could be but it would be usefull if Mikrotik released some information for people that weren't on the MUM...

void: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MUM_2010_PL

Normis,

I saw this page but I can't find the video were the new products are announced. I'm interested to see pricing info, target market info etc. The slides don't tell everyhting. Like for example it seems there will be 2 versions of the 250GS ? Regular or Smart ?

Home Sweet Home!
Definitely, a whole week with a lot of people sharing the same interests (Networking,Beer and Girls) was awesome!
Thanks to the foolish spanish that spiced up the italian style. Thanks to the other people that came and shared their thoughts. I learnt a lot.
When the lottery was going on I just woke up (it was planned for 16.30 and i woke up at 16.20) i watched it on tiktube.. and they called my name
that's evil..
Now it's time to change my signature!

no video of that yet, in about 1 week. have to recode the hd video

HI Guys

More need to 24 port giga eth switch for end corporate client and stacking feature.THX.

no video of that yet, in about 1 week. have to recode the hd video

Thanks Normis. I look forward to seeing the hardware and software demo.

yeah the MUM was great (my first one btw. I felt like a virgin:D:D:D)

I even speek with chupaka (yeah thats me;P this big guy who ask about your age:))

Evrything was very nice exept presentations made by interp***** they realy suck at those (its my subjective opinion as allways)


So see you next year I hope maby in Rzeszów?

)))

btw, http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/alb ... &aid=12959 =)

Ha! So the guy with so-nice-looking(tm) haircut was Chupaka

Here my photos of the MUM2010PL: http://flickr.com/gp/stefanoklett/Vbo26v



Regards
Stefano

Some more pictures here: http://mum.mikrotik.com/gallery/v/PL10/

Uploaded some photos of Italian Style!
MUM 2010 PL

Uploaded some photos of Italian Style!
MUM 2010 PL

I am Routing VAMPIRE! http://www.medianetitalia.net/muqa/gall ... L/DSCN0010 bwhaha!

beer beer , only beers. Where are the girls, guys ?

beer beer , only beers. Where are the girls, guys ?

There were some girls in this MUM, it's a significant progress (better few then none)

lots of girls were present this year! http://mum.mikrotik.com/gallery/v/PL10/

at least 20 I mean.

Ohh ill see

http://mum.mikrotik.com/gallery/v/PL10/ ... 2.jpg.html
What brand are these antennas?

better http://mum.mikrotik.com/gallery/v/PL10/ ... 8.jpg.html

Ohh ill see

http://mum.mikrotik.com/gallery/v/PL10/ ... 2.jpg.html
What brand are these antennas?

RF elements?

A question about v5 . How much maximum will v5 support ?
with growing of KVM usage i think more ram will be useful .