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comparison to proxim....

Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:04 am

hi guys,

could anyone help me in understanding how do Mikrotik products compare with Proxim range of products.

i am facing tough competition from Proxim on all fronts while promoting Mikrotik. Just cannot understand how to workout the comparison.

any and all help will be appreciated.
 
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Re: comparison to proxim....

Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:45 pm

Depends on which products you are trying to compare. If your trying to compare the Tsunami MP.11 equipment to Mikrotik...Mikrotik is the way to go. Yes, this series of equipment from proxim is quoted as being Wimax to some degree but the sensitivity nor the transmit power is there. Also the cost is almost triple what a Mikrotik solution would cost. The Mikrotik has nearly double sometimes greater actual throughput (depends on g or n cards). Seek out a decent radio card, install in a Mikrotik board and you have a better solution than Proxim. Oh did I also forget to talk about support? If something goes wrong with the Mikrotik solution you can fix it yourself. Proxim's units are very hard to service when it comes to their motherboards.(Proxim uses Ubiquiti radios on Proxim boards.) With Mikrotik you can instanly change the board without having to send the entire unit to Proxim and pay their repair fee or purchasing their serv paks. Early in our start up days we chose Proxim out of ignorance. Proxim has many references as being the best carrier solution, but experience has taught us if we can not fix it in house sometimes it is not worth getting even when something has good reviews.
 
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Re: comparison to proxim....

Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:43 pm

We dropped Tsunami MP11a and use MT instead. MP11a used older Atheros-Based
cards with some sort of Nstreme on top. They are plain bridges so you always
need routers in between. We run into problems do bridging with them over three
links. We've had a problem that *every* unit does get unresponsive after some time
and then do a reboot. That did not get fixed for more than a year. We had big
interference problems using more than 3 of them on a tower on 5GHz (11 Channels).
You've to set them to fixed channel and try every channel as there are big differences
even without interference. For this crap you've to pay much more than for MT.
We've some devices left but do not sell them. As we're sure to get them back.
Never looked at proxim after that experience.
 
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Re: comparison to proxim....

Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:57 am

hey... thnx for the replies.
 
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Re: comparison to proxim....

Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:41 pm

i have used proxim tsunami mp11 and mikrotik 433 and 411 both and my experience tells me that mikrotik is good if number of users on the client side is less. But proxim is better in handling simultaneous number of clients. I had like 50+ active users on proxim running without much problem but for mikrotik if the number goes beyond 7-10 the latency starts to go very high.
 
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Re: comparison to proxim....

Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:57 pm

You should only see latency issues increase after 10 or so clients if you are using standard 802.11a/b/g. If you use RTS/CTS or better yet nstreme you can easily to 50+. We had no issues until we hit 75 users and we were only using a 10mhz channel so the bandwidth maxed out around 10mbps. MP11 are no more then a proprietary MT. They uses a computer board with a radio card just like MT. But you pay more and have less flexibility.
 
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Re: comparison to proxim....

Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:49 am

Tsunami MP20 was acquired by Proxim when they sucked up Western Multiplex and was technically a brilliant platform, TDMA, GPS Sync, circular polarization, beam-forming it had it all and was far ahead of it's time. However it was expensive and a lot of the original engineers went off to Motorola to work on a certain Canopy product...

Tsunami MP11 is Proxim's "cheap" replacement solution. It uses 166Mhz PPC processors with Atheros 52xx series radios and a VXWorks based OS. Drivers are based on the reference Atheros drivers with code sourced from Karlnet to provide the "WORP" polling protocol.

MP11 works ok as a bridge, or a very basic point-to-multipoint set up, but is quite inflexible, throughput is CPU limited and the webui is horrible to use.

I would recommend Mikrotik over Proxim any day.

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