RouterOS 5.0 is out!

alexspils · Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:58 pm

What's new in 5.0 (2011-Mar-31 11:33):

*) route - fixed cause of crashes when handling multipath routes;
*) route - fixed limit on maximum active IPv6 route count,
was causing issues with more than 2000 active routes;
*) ipsec - added command kill-connections under remote-peers;
*) ipsec - fix responder side phase2 negotiation problem
which prevented more than one Windows7 host to initiate SA;
*) fixed vrrp - interface was invalid after undoing remove;
*) winbox - added more detailed /interface ethernet stats;
*) winbox - added ability to send e-mail;
*) winbox - added missing 'set-metric' parameter
in 'Routing/Prefix List';
*) wireless - 802.11 dynamic distance fix;
*) fixed problem - packages could not be uninstalled if disk was full;
*) fixed problem - some of the RouterBOARDS did not reboot properly sometimes;
*) fixed problem - VLANs on bridge interface did not work;
*) ssh - client supports public key authentication;
On MT official site is written:
x86 does not currently support Nv2 (requires RouterBOARD hardware)
x86 may be supported in the future

but i tried in on x86 and it works

ciphercore · Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:38 pm

Exactly on year after ROS 5-Beta1.

midsizewisp · Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:11 pm

Does this include the fix for the RB1100 ethernet port issues like 4.17?

ekkas · Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:11 pm

Does it include fix for wireless mentioned in some thread for test ROSrc12 that wasn't officially released?
More importantly, is it working 100%?

Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:12 pm

Does it include fix for wireless mentioned in some thread for test ROSrc12 that wasn't officially released?
More importantly, is it working 100%?

Yes.

Does this include the fix for the RB1100 ethernet port issues like 4.17?

v5.0 has those fixes as well.

ekkas · Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:29 pm

I'll upgade 1 link and watch it for a few days first.

Glad it's released, would love to roll out NV2 on a few areas, already have the SXT's lined up and a few installed.

Thanks MT.

Beccara · Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:08 pm

Toot!

Let the lab testing begin!!

Michel · Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:13 pm

Hello,

there is a SA Lifetime Bug in V5, where the Timezone +2 Hours is added to the time, so a DPD will not work.

Regards Michael

chvdr · Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:14 am

I'll be glad to hear that all vlan bugs were gone into the past.

Some our well working VLAN configs stopped when router was updated to newest RC-versions. I hope that v5 solved problems like that. Hurry to test.

chadd · Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:04 am

I upgraded an RB running 4.16 to 5.0 that had the NV2 package installed and when the router came back up it didn't have any wireless package enabled and lost all the wireless settings. Is there any way around this issue?

I lucked out in this case because it was the local side that I upgraded, but it could have resulted in a frustrating truckroll.

chvdr · Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:15 am

one time i updated router trough wireless.
wireless package seems to not be saved or damaged during upload to the router

be in mind to check the list of uploaded packages before "/system reboot"

chadd · Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:19 am

one time i updated router trough wireless.
wireless package seems to not be saved or damaged during upload to the router

be in mind to check the list of uploaded packages before "/system reboot"

If you see my post above I think it is related to the previous install having the NV2 test package installed. Hopefully they can fix this quickly.

chvdr · Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:25 am

hm... i do the same, no problem on my router

chadd · Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:27 am

hm... i do the same, no problem on my router

What version did you upgrade from? 4.X or 5.RC?

My upgrade was from 4.16 with NV2 Wireless package installed.

chvdr · Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:31 am

excuse me, it's my fault...
updated successfully, but from 5RC version

ojsa · Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:45 am

Seems there is some issue with the ethernet switch functionality on my RB1100
Trunk in on ether1, vlan100 out on ether2
Works with 4.17, stopped when upgrading to 5.0.

I had to return to 4.17 due to customer need, but i'll make a support file to morrow.

ekkas · Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:51 am

I also had the missing wireless package on a few, it seems to be random, even if upgrading from normal wireless package.
But out of 100, maybe 2 or 3 did this. (When previously upgrading from 4.xx to 5.0rcxx)
Doubt if it is reproducable as it rarely, but sadly, happens sometimes from 4 to 5, regardless of wireless-nv2 or not.

WirelessRudy · Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:18 am

Updated two rb433's forming a remote link;
packages: advanced-tools, dhcp, routerboard, routing, system and wireless.
upgraded firmware.

So far so good. Link is running in 5Ghz 10Mhz channel Management protection enabled and 802.11 protocol with set data rates.
Switched link to run with nv2 protocol; so far so good. No probs.
Second unit is also AP, AP running in 2,4Ghz normal 802.11 + WPA PSK/WPA2PSK: No issue so far.

Link is just upgrade in the middle of the night and adjacent network don't see effect of nv2.
Lets wait what the day will bring... fingers crossed..

WirelessRudy · Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:20 am

What is new "Bridge Mode" in 5.0 Wireless / Interface / wireless tab? (winbox)
What is the function of it?

WirelessRudy · Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:31 am

Winbox still not more user friendly like requested several times by several users.

Is it not too late (more versions of 5.x to come

) to make winbox more userfriendly?

- Why can't we change window size and content (in wireless registration for instance) and format in such way it also comes back after a reboot in the same way?

- Why can't we open a window in winbox twice? Sometimes you want to put the windows registration column and the access list column side by side to see what is a discrepancy for instance. Now you have to swap between these or you have to open two sessions to the router.

I asked this before and it was promised to take it with develoment of new ROS family. This was in the days of early ros4rc's...

Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:20 am

wirelessrudy, that's why you have to test rc11 to see if your requests have been made or not.

petro25 · Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:11 am

1) problem EoIP Ceases to pass the traffic (rb750 rb433AH)
The following helps
/interface eoip disable eoip-tunnel1
/interface eoip enable eoip-tunnel1

2) On distance more than 40 km disgustingly work the nv2

10:20:04 wireless,info 00:0C:42:62:E3:9A@wlan1: disconnected, control frame timeou
t
10:20:06 wireless,info 00:0C:42:62:E3:9A@wlan1: connected
10:20:09 wireless,info 00:0C:42:62:E3:9A@wlan1: disconnected, control frame timeou
t
10:20:10 wireless,info 00:0C:42:62:E3:9A@wlan1: connected
10:20:14 wireless,info 00:0C:42:62:E3:9A@wlan1: disconnected, control frame timeou
t
10:20:15 wireless,info 00:0C:42:62:E3:9A@wlan1: connected

nstreme Works without ruptures but a bit more slowly

nv2 42км r52Hn

tdma 4 ms
radius 50 км

_______________________________________________________________________

56 km nv2 rb411 r52hn

11:16:49 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: connected
11:51:54 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: reconnecting
11:51:55 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: connected
12:13:14 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: reconnecting
12:13:14 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: connected
12:24:30 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: reconnecting
12:24:30 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: connected
12:35:27 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: reconnecting
12:35:28 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: connected
12:37:08 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: reconnecting
12:37:08 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: connected
12:37:48 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: reconnecting
12:37:48 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: connected
12:40:38 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: reconnecting
12:40:38 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: connected

tdma 3ms
radius 60

Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:12 am

Wirelessrudy, about bridge mode from wiki,
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Wi ... ion-bridge

Mode station-bridge
This mode works only with RouterOS APs and provides support for transparent protocol-independent L2 bridging on station device. RouterOS AP accepts clients in station-bridge mode when enabled using bridge-mode parameter. In this mode AP maintains forwarding table with information on what MAC addresses are reachable over which station device.
This mode is MikroTik proprietary and can't be used to connect other brand devices.
This mode is safe to use for L2 bridging and should be used whenever there are sufficient reasons to not use station-wds mode.

eben · Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:38 am

What version of the User Manager is supplied with this?

Normally the "all packages" folder has two versions. This one only has one. Is this the new beta or is it the old production version?

Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:44 am

There is no old user manager at v5.0.

eben · Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:50 am

There is no old user manager at v5.0.

So is it the version of user manager that we've all been commenting about in this thread?

http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=35718

WirelessRudy · Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:00 am

wirelessrudy, that's why you have to test rc11 to see if your requests have been made or not.

???
You mean I have to test a rc version to see what new options available in the definitive 5.0version??? Besides that I have been working with rc10, 11 and 12 I think you were not awake when you gave that advice!

None of these version has the options I (we) asked for that makes winbox more user friendly.

WirelessRudy · Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:11 am

Wirelessrudy, about bridge mode from wiki,
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Wi ... ion-bridge

Mode station-bridge
This mode works only with RouterOS APs and provides support for transparent protocol-independent L2 bridging on station device. RouterOS AP accepts clients in station-bridge mode when enabled using bridge-mode parameter. In this mode AP maintains forwarding table with information on what MAC addresses are reachable over which station device.
This mode is MikroTik proprietary and can't be used to connect other brand devices.
This mode is safe to use for L2 bridging and should be used whenever there are sufficient reasons to not use station-wds mode.

sergejs, I am not referring to of one of the ´Mode´ options in the top of the winbox Wireless / Interface / Wireless-tab window.
I am referring to the new "Bridge Mode" with option "enaled / disabled" only under the "WMM Support" field in that same winbox subwindow.
This is new in ros5.0. If it is the same as the option you can make at the top in that window than why a second button to enable/disable that option again?

Makes not a lot of sense IMHO.

bda · Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:41 am

New hardware is still not detected...

 0 device="03:00.0" name="unknown device (rev: 3)" vendor="NEC Corporation" 
   category="USB Controller" vendor-id="0x1033" device-id="0x0194" irq=10 
   memory=0xF7D00000-0xF7DFFFFF 

 1 device="01:00.1" name="82576 Gigabit Network Connection (rev: 1)" 
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="Ethernet controller" 
   vendor-id="0x8086" device-id="0x10c9" irq=10 
   memory=0xF7C00000-0xF7C1FFFF,0xF7000000-0xF73FFFFF,0xF7C40000-0xF7C43FFF 
   io=0xE000-0xEFFF 

 2 device="01:00.0" name="82576 Gigabit Network Connection (rev: 1)" 
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="Ethernet controller" 
   vendor-id="0x8086" device-id="0x10c9" irq=11 
   memory=0xF7C20000-0xF7C3FFFF,0xF7800000-0xF7BFFFFF,0xF7C44000-0xF7C47FFF 
   io=0xE020-0xE03F 

 3 device="00:1f.3" name="Cougar Point SMBus Controller (rev: 4)" 
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="SMBus" vendor-id="0x8086" 
   device-id="0x1c22" irq=11 memory=0xF7E24000-0xF7E240FF io=0xF040-0xF05F 

 4 device="00:1f.2" name="Cougar Point 4 port SATA IDE Controller (rev: 4)" 
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="IDE interface" vendor-id="0x8086" 
   device-id="0x1c00" irq=4 io=0xF090-0xF09F,0xF080-0xF08F 

 5 device="00:1f.0" name="unknown device (rev: 4)" vendor="Intel Corporation" 
   category="ISA bridge" vendor-id="0x8086" device-id="0x1c4a" irq=0 

 6 device="00:1d.0" 
   name="Cougar Point USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev: 4)" 
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="USB Controller" vendor-id="0x8086" 
   device-id="0x1c26" irq=7 memory=0xF7E25000-0xF7E253FF 

 7 device="00:1c.1" name="Cougar Point PCI Express Root Port 2 (rev: 180)" 
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="PCI bridge" vendor-id="0x8086" 
   device-id="0x1c12" irq=11 

 8 device="00:1c.0" name="Cougar Point PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev: 180)" 
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="PCI bridge" vendor-id="0x8086" 
   device-id="0x1c10" irq=10 

 9 device="00:1b.0" 
   name="Cougar Point High Definition Audio Controller (rev: 4)" 
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="Audio device" vendor-id="0x8086" 
   device-id="0x1c20" irq=3 memory=0xF7E20000-0xF7E23FFF 

10 device="00:1a.0" 
   name="Cougar Point USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev: 4)" 
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="USB Controller" vendor-id="0x8086" 
   device-id="0x1c2d" irq=11 memory=0xF7E26000-0xF7E263FF 

11 device="00:19.0" name="unknown device (rev: 4)" vendor="Intel Corporation" 
   category="Ethernet controller" vendor-id="0x8086" device-id="0x1503" irq=5 
   memory=0xF7E00000-0xF7E1FFFF,0xF7E27000-0xF7E27FFF io=0xF060-0xF07F 

12 device="00:16.0" name="Cougar Point HECI Controller #1 (rev: 4)" 
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="Communication controller" 
   vendor-id="0x8086" device-id="0x1c3a" irq=11 memory=0xF7E28000-0xF7E2800F 

13 device="00:02.0" name="Sandy Bridge Integrated Graphics Controller (rev: 9)>
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="VGA compatible controller" 
   vendor-id="0x8086" device-id="0x0102" irq=11 
   memory=0xF6800000-0xF6BFFFFF,0xE0000000-0xEFFFFFFF io=0xF000-0xF03F 

14 device="00:01.0" name="unknown device (rev: 9)" vendor="Intel Corporation" 
   category="PCI bridge" vendor-id="0x8086" device-id="0x0101" irq=11 

15 device="00:00.0" name="unknown device (rev: 9)" vendor="Intel Corporation" 
   category="Host bridge" vendor-id="0x8086" device-id="0x0100" irq=0

And another box:

 0 device="04:00.0" name="RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev: 16)" 
   vendor="Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd." category="Ethernet controller" 
   vendor-id="0x10ec" device-id="0x8139" irq=5 memory=0xFD9FF000-0xFD9FF0FF 
   io=0xDE00-0xDEFF 

 1 device="03:00.0" name="unknown device (rev: 192)" 
   vendor="Attansic Technology Corp." category="Ethernet controller" 
   vendor-id="0x1969" device-id="0x1063" irq=12 memory=0xFDCC0000-0xFDCFFFFF 
   io=0xBF00-0xBF7F 

 2 device="01:00.1" name="82571EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev: 6)" 
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="Ethernet controller" 
   vendor-id="0x8086" device-id="0x105e" irq=12 
   memory=0xFD7A0000-0xFD7BFFFF,0xFD780000-0xFD79FFFF io=0xAE00-0xAE1F 

 3 device="01:00.0" name="82571EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev: 6)" 
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="Ethernet controller" 
   vendor-id="0x8086" device-id="0x105e" irq=10 
   memory=0xFD7E0000-0xFD7FFFFF,0xFD7C0000-0xFD7DFFFF io=0xAF00-0xAF1F 

 4 device="00:1f.3" name="82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller (rev: 1)" 
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="SMBus" vendor-id="0x8086" 
   device-id="0x27da" irq=11 io=0x500-0x51F 

 5 device="00:1f.2" 
   name="82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) SATA IDE Controller (rev: 1)" 
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="IDE interface" vendor-id="0x8086" 
   device-id="0x27c0" irq=11 io=0xF300-0xF30F 

 6 device="00:1f.1" name="82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller (rev: 1)" 
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="IDE interface" vendor-id="0x8086" 
   device-id="0x27df" irq=255 io=0xF800-0xF80F 

 7 device="00:1f.0" 
   name="82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC Interface Bridge (rev: 1)" 
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="ISA bridge" vendor-id="0x8086" 
   device-id="0x27b8" irq=0 

 8 device="00:1e.0" name="82801 PCI Bridge (rev: 225)" 
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="PCI bridge" vendor-id="0x8086" 
   device-id="0x244e" irq=0 

 9 device="00:1d.7" name="82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev: 1)" 
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="USB Controller" vendor-id="0x8086" 
   device-id="0x27cc" irq=3 memory=0xFDFFF000-0xFDFFF3FF 

10 device="00:1d.3" name="82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev: 1)>
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="USB Controller" vendor-id="0x8086" 
   device-id="0x27cb" irq=10 io=0xFB00-0xFB1F 

11 device="00:1d.2" name="82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev: 1)>
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="USB Controller" vendor-id="0x8086" 
   device-id="0x27ca" irq=9 io=0xFC00-0xFC1F 

12 device="00:1d.1" name="82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev: 1)>
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="USB Controller" vendor-id="0x8086" 
   device-id="0x27c9" irq=11 io=0xFD00-0xFD1F 

13 device="00:1d.0" name="82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev: 1)>
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="USB Controller" vendor-id="0x8086" 
   device-id="0x27c8" irq=3 io=0xFE00-0xFE1F 

14 device="00:1c.1" name="82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev: 1)" 
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="PCI bridge" vendor-id="0x8086" 
   device-id="0x27d2" irq=12 

15 device="00:1c.0" name="82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev: 1)" 
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="PCI bridge" vendor-id="0x8086" 
   device-id="0x27d0" irq=10 

16 device="00:02.0" 
   name="82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev: 16)" 
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="VGA compatible controller" 
   vendor-id="0x8086" device-id="0x29c2" irq=10 
   memory=0xFDF00000-0xFDF7FFFF,0xD0000000-0xDFFFFFFF,0xFD600000-0xFD6FFFFF 
   io=0xFF00-0xFF07 

17 device="00:01.0" 
   name="82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express PCI Express Root Port (rev: 16)" 
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="PCI bridge" vendor-id="0x8086" 
   device-id="0x29c1" irq=10 

18 device="00:00.0" name="82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express DRAM Controller (rev: 16)" 
   vendor="Intel Corporation" category="Host bridge" vendor-id="0x8086" 
   device-id="0x29c0" irq=0

Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:55 am

I suppose you mean Intel Ethernet controller is not supported on your Sandy Bridge motherboard.
Currently there is no drivers for it.

Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:22 am

Problem on RB133c.
Uninstalled 2 packages (hotspot, mpls) after reboot ethernet comes not back
online. The Switch to which the RB is connected shows link but RB does not
detect link:

[admin@c52] > interface ethernet print
Flags: X - disabled, R - running, S - slave
# NAME MTU MAC-ADDRESS ARP MASTER-PORT SWITCH
0 ether1 1500 00:0C:42:17:90:A3 enabled none (unknown)

Waiting for supout.rif to get written. If it gets done I send it to support.
Not sure it will be written.

Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:30 am

ste, we are waiting for support output file from the router.

mts · Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:37 am

Usermanager 5.0 (also 5.0rc11)

Recreating users profiles (required steps in "What is new rc11")

Cannot set "Start at first logon".
Back to rc7. RB493AH.

rzirzi · Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:40 am

Why NV2 is NOT supported under x86? I'ts wireless dependend feature - not processor architecture.
MikroTik - would You want to say : "Don't buy other platforms than RB's"?

Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:41 am

mts, at first logon feature is removed from User Manager.
Currently there is no plans to get it back in the near future.

Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:58 am

ste, we are waiting for support output file from the router.

No chance. RB133c died while making supout.rif.
Doing a powercycle it came back up and ethernet is
running again.
Found no supout.rif.

Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:15 pm

you are wrong, Nv2 is very much architecture dependent, there are many technical reasons which cause difficulties.

honzam · Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:28 pm

I upgraded an RB running 4.16 to 5.0 that had the NV2 package installed and when the router came back up it didn't have any wireless package enabled and lost all the wireless settings. Is there any way around this issue?

I lucked out in this case because it was the local side that I upgraded, but it could have resulted in a frustrating truckroll.

Same problem. RB433 4.16 to 5.0 Upgrade Fail (Disconnect)
NV2 package has been disabled

bda · Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:32 pm

I suppose you mean Intel Ethernet controller is not supported on your Sandy Bridge motherboard.
Currently there is no drivers for it.

Thank you for info. But the second box is not so new and it also has unknown pci devices... Can you help?

mts · Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:28 pm

at first logon feature is removed from User Manager.
Currently there is no plans to get it back in the near future.

Any middle/long term plans ?

ekkas · Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:35 pm

I also had same problem on RB133C with ethernet port not connecting. (No registaration R in winBox) 5.0rc9->5
Changed ether port not to auto-negotiate and set on 10Mbps and it came back up.
Will try power cycle when I get there sometime.

Trying to make a supout, will see if the RB133C survive that. lol

Ekkas

Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:51 pm

sergejs, I am not referring to of one of the ´Mode´ options in the top of the winbox Wireless / Interface / Wireless-tab window.
I am referring to the new "Bridge Mode" with option "enaled / disabled" only under the "WMM Support" field in that same winbox subwindow.
This is new in ros5.0. If it is the same as the option you can make at the top in that window than why a second button to enable/disable that option again?

Makes not a lot of sense IMHO.

Please read this section below again and look at the sentence in bold, it will help you to understand that that feature allows or disallows AP to accept station-bridge mode clients.

Mode station-bridge
This mode works only with RouterOS APs and provides support for transparent protocol-independent L2 bridging on station device. RouterOS AP accepts clients in station-bridge mode when enabled using bridge-mode parameter. In this mode AP maintains forwarding table with information on what MAC addresses are reachable over which station device.
This mode is MikroTik proprietary and can't be used to connect other brand devices.
This mode is safe to use for L2 bridging and should be used whenever there are sufficient reasons to not use station-wds mode.

WirelessRudy · Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:29 pm

sergejs, I am not referring to of one of the ´Mode´ options in the top of the winbox Wireless / Interface / Wireless-tab window.
I am referring to the new "Bridge Mode" with option "enaled / disabled" only under the "WMM Support" field in that same winbox subwindow.
This is new in ros5.0. If it is the same as the option you can make at the top in that window than why a second button to enable/disable that option again?

Makes not a lot of sense IMHO.
Please read this section below again and look at the sentence in bold, it will help you to understand that that feature allows or disallows AP to accept station-bridge mode clients.
Mode station-bridge
This mode works only with RouterOS APs and provides support for transparent protocol-independent L2 bridging on station device. RouterOS AP accepts clients in station-bridge mode when enabled using bridge-mode parameter. In this mode AP maintains forwarding table with information on what MAC addresses are reachable over which station device.
This mode is MikroTik proprietary and can't be used to connect other brand devices.
This mode is safe to use for L2 bridging and should be used whenever there are sufficient reasons to not use station-wds mode.

I was just realizing what these words were meaning when this post come at my notice. I understand and bow my head now.... Thanks anyway for the explanation. Probably I am not the only one not reading thorough or understanding all well. So now we have extra explanation.
Thanks

WirelessRudy · Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:35 pm

Updated two rb433's forming a remote link;
packages: advanced-tools, dhcp, routerboard, routing, system and wireless.
upgraded firmware.

So far so good. Link is running in 5Ghz 10Mhz channel Management protection enabled and 802.11 protocol with set data rates.
Switched link to run with nv2 protocol; so far so good. No probs.
Second unit is also AP, AP running in 2,4Ghz normal 802.11 + WPA PSK/WPA2PSK: No issue so far.

Link is just upgrade in the middle of the night and adjacent network don't see effect of nv2.
Lets wait what the day will bring... fingers crossed..

These links are still running fine mids of the day with plenty of traffic etc. One by one and little by little I am upgrading now some remote clients (mostly 133C's and 411's) from different AP's and so far no disaster. Fingers crossed!

ekkas · Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:23 pm

Looking good here as well so far.
Upgraded 160 RB133(+C) & RB411, 10 RB433(+AH), 10RB532, 5 RB333, 2 RB750G, 3 RB493AH, 2 PTP links +15km with nv2.
Looking stable and speeds ok. So far.
If all goes well over next few days, I'll upgrade rest of network.
Apart from (small) RB133C ether unregister problem, no other issues.
Ekkas

sbajic · Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:20 pm

I have problem with CPU load 100% after upgrading from 4.16 to 5.0 all the time. Before it was never 100% all the time.

I can't upgrade firmware from 2.28 to 2.33. I give upgrade command and get message that it is upgraded sucessfully, and to reboot it. After reboot I see that it is still on 2.28 version firmware, and that available version for upgrade is 2.33.

Also, in winbox new version when I open interfaces windows and ppp window I don't see anything. After some time I get message in this window ERROR: timeout

It is RB750 router. Can anyone help me with this problems.

Regards,
Sasa

Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:33 pm

I have problem with CPU load 100% after upgrading from 4.16 to 5.0 all the time. Before it was never 100% all the time.

I can't upgrade firmware from 2.28 to 2.33. I give upgrade command and get message that it is upgraded sucessfully, and to reboot it. After reboot I see that it is still on 2.28 version firmware, and that available version for upgrade is 2.33.

Also, in winbox new version when I open interfaces windows and ppp window I don't see anything. After some time I get message in this window ERROR: timeout

It is RB750 router. Can anyone help me with this problems.

Regards,
Sasa

please make the support output file and contact support@mikrotik.com

ekkas · Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:41 pm

sbajic, do you have usermanager on there(with many users/sessions/logs)? If so, leave it for an hour or so without rebooting it and check then...

sbajic · Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:20 pm

Hi,
no don't have usermanager installed.it is small instalation in our company, for testing purpose. Have 2 wan links, 2 links to two different lans, one eoip and that is all. nothing high demanding.

Swordforthelord · Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:19 pm

Version 4 has one particular issue I'm wondering about; IPSEC SA's usually have to be flushed if a tunnel is interrupted between a RouterOS device and a non-RouterOS device. Has this been corrected in Version 5?

drixter · Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:14 pm

Hi,

There is a still issue with BGP (session only on ethernet/tunnels) and WLAN (no bgp peers), where there switch and someone is present on WLAN and then disconnect.

After this, routing gets 100% CPU usage on RB433. Only way is reboot router.

Support: Ticket#2011021266000179 (sent last supout.rif from 5.0)

I wondering when it's will be fixed, or I have to buy standalone access point.

I think that if the WLAN interface will be always up, even there is no client then should be working without crashing routing process.

lekozs · Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:14 pm

you are wrong, Nv2 is very much architecture dependent, there are many technical reasons which cause difficulties.

... Well I really hope this is an April fools joke...

ekkas · Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:26 pm

drixster, will putting the AP in a bridge and run your stuff off bridge?
Bridge is always up.

jandafields · Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:12 am

you are wrong, Nv2 is very much architecture dependent, there are many technical reasons which cause difficulties.
... Well I really hope this is an April fools joke...

Not a joke, it's been noted for at least a few days that it doesn't work with x86... although if you look back, at least 1 person got nv2 to work with x86 anyway.

eben · Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:23 am

you are wrong, Nv2 is very much architecture dependent, there are many technical reasons which cause difficulties.
... Well I really hope this is an April fools joke...
Not a joke, it's been noted for at least a few days that it doesn't work with x86... although if you look back, at least 1 person got nv2 to work with x86 anyway.

Oh my soul!

And this just as I was about to install 5.0 onto an x86 machine.

That was a very near miss.

mjoksimovic · Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:37 am

I have problem with CPU load 100% after upgrading from 4.16 to 5.0 all the time. Before it was never 100% all the time.

I can't upgrade firmware from 2.28 to 2.33. I give upgrade command and get message that it is upgraded sucessfully, and to reboot it. After reboot I see that it is still on 2.28 version firmware, and that available version for upgrade is 2.33.

Also, in winbox new version when I open interfaces windows and ppp window I don't see anything. After some time I get message in this window ERROR: timeout

It is RB750 router. Can anyone help me with this problems.

Regards,
Sasa

The same problem but fw upgrade passed successfully from terminal window.

jandafields · Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:50 am

... Well I really hope this is an April fools joke...
Not a joke, it's been noted for at least a few days that it doesn't work with x86... although if you look back, at least 1 person got nv2 to work with x86 anyway.
Oh my soul!

And this just as I was about to install 5.0 onto an x86 machine.

That was a very near miss.

How was that a near miss??? It is very clearly stated in more than one place:

The first post of the thread says:
- x86 does not currently support Nv2 (requires RouterBOARD hardware)
- x86 may be supported in the future

The x86 DOWNLOAD page of mikrotik officially states:
- x86 does not currently support Nv2 (requires RouterBOARD hardware)
- x86 may be supported in the future

jandafields · Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:51 am

I have problem with CPU load 100% after upgrading from 4.16 to 5.0 all the time. Before it was never 100% all the time.

I can't upgrade firmware from 2.28 to 2.33. I give upgrade command and get message that it is upgraded sucessfully, and to reboot it. After reboot I see that it is still on 2.28 version firmware, and that available version for upgrade is 2.33.

Also, in winbox new version when I open interfaces windows and ppp window I don't see anything. After some time I get message in this window ERROR: timeout

It is RB750 router. Can anyone help me with this problems.

Regards,
Sasa
The same problem but fw upgrade passed successfully from terminal window.

Sometimes you have to do the firmware update 4 or 5 times to get it to work. That's how I got mine to work on RB750... just keep trying it, and rebooting... and it will finally work.

eben · Sat Apr 02, 2011 1:08 am

How was that a near miss??? It is very clearly stated in more than one place:

The first post of the thread says:
- x86 does not currently support Nv2 (requires RouterBOARD hardware)
- x86 may be supported in the future

I am a trusting person. I read the changelog and there was nothing there that I saw.

The x86 DOWNLOAD page of mikrotik officially states:
- x86 does not currently support Nv2 (requires RouterBOARD hardware)
- x86 may be supported in the future

I didn't download the packages. I just implement what my superiors tell me to do. Their instruction was to upgrade the network of close to 1100 routers to ver 5.00 The only reason why I came here was to enquire about the user manager. Anyway, it doesn't make sense to me that Nv2 works well on x86 under 4.17, but won't work on 5.00

And that is why it was a near miss for me.

ditonet · Sat Apr 02, 2011 1:17 am

Hi,

*) winbox - added more detailed /interface ethernet stats;

On RB433AH 'Overall Stats', 'RX Stats' and 'TX Stats' tabs are filled with zeros, not with stats data.
Bug or I missed something?
Currently I'm not able to test this on other RBs.

Regards,

sbajic · Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:42 am

I have problem with CPU load 100% after upgrading from 4.16 to 5.0 all the time. Before it was never 100% all the time.

I can't upgrade firmware from 2.28 to 2.33. I give upgrade command and get message that it is upgraded sucessfully, and to reboot it. After reboot I see that it is still on 2.28 version firmware, and that available version for upgrade is 2.33.

Also, in winbox new version when I open interfaces windows and ppp window I don't see anything. After some time I get message in this window ERROR: timeout

It is RB750 router. Can anyone help me with this problems.

Regards,
Sasa
The same problem but fw upgrade passed successfully from terminal window.

Sometimes you have to do the firmware update 4 or 5 times to get it to work. That's how I got mine to work on RB750... just keep trying it, and rebooting... and it will finally work.

I have tried about 6 -8 times to upgrade it from winbox and from terminal but no success

still trying. I am a always optimistic and I let it work for a day and then try again to upgrade firmware. Maybe it needs to work for little

and then will accept upgradde of fw

petro25 · Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:34 am

1) problem EoIP Ceases to pass the traffic (rb750 rb433AH)
The following helps
/interface eoip disable eoip-tunnel1
/interface eoip enable eoip-tunnel1

2) On distance more than 40 km disgustingly work the nv2
Sharply level of a signal falls and level of noise raises. Inclusion interface deenergizing helps
on the bridge rx -70 to -84 noise -115 to -97
on the station bridge All in norm

You interchange the position of base and client options
The picture changes too
Problems on bridge

10:20:04 wireless,info 00:0C:42:62:E3:9A@wlan1: disconnected, control frame timeou
t
10:20:06 wireless,info 00:0C:42:62:E3:9A@wlan1: connected
10:20:09 wireless,info 00:0C:42:62:E3:9A@wlan1: disconnected, control frame timeou
t
10:20:10 wireless,info 00:0C:42:62:E3:9A@wlan1: connected
10:20:14 wireless,info 00:0C:42:62:E3:9A@wlan1: disconnected, control frame timeou
t
10:20:15 wireless,info 00:0C:42:62:E3:9A@wlan1: connected

nstreme Works without ruptures but a bit more slowly

nv2 42км r52Hn

tdma 4 ms
radius 50 км

_______________________________________________________________________

56 km nv2 rb411 r52hn

11:16:49 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: connected
11:51:54 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: reconnecting
11:51:55 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: connected
12:13:14 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: reconnecting
12:13:14 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: connected
12:24:30 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: reconnecting
12:24:30 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: connected
12:35:27 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: reconnecting
12:35:28 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: connected
12:37:08 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: reconnecting
12:37:08 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: connected
12:37:48 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: reconnecting
12:37:48 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: connected
12:40:38 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: reconnecting
12:40:38 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: connected

tdma 3ms
radius 60

I can help with testing nv2 on distances from 40 to 60 km

Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:43 am

Version 4 has one particular issue I'm wondering about; IPSEC SA's usually have to be flushed if a tunnel is interrupted between a RouterOS device and a non-RouterOS device. Has this been corrected in Version 5?

There is one option added,
*) ipsec - added command kill-connections under remote-peers;
DPD allows to overcome the problem too, but it should be supported by both ends.
Low value for lifetime on both ends could be used too.

Hi,
There is a still issue with BGP (session only on ethernet/tunnels) and WLAN (no bgp peers), where there switch and someone is present on WLAN and then disconnect.
After this, routing gets 100% CPU usage on RB433. Only way is reboot router.
Support: Ticket#2011021266000179 (sent last supout.rif from 5.0)
I wondering when it's will be fixed, or I have to buy standalone access point.
I think that if the WLAN interface will be always up, even there is no client then should be working without crashing routing process.

We are working on your problem.

I have problem with CPU load 100% after upgrading from 4.16 to 5.0 all the time. Before it was never 100% all the time.
I can't upgrade firmware from 2.28 to 2.33. I give upgrade command and get message that it is upgraded sucessfully, and to reboot it. After reboot I see that it is still on 2.28 version firmware, and that available version for upgrade is 2.33.
Also, in winbox new version when I open interfaces windows and ppp window I don't see anything. After some time I get message in this window ERROR: timeout
It is RB750 router. Can anyone help me with this problems.
Regards,
Sasa
The same problem but fw upgrade passed successfully from terminal window.

Do you have the same issue on just one or few RouterBOARDs?

Hi,
*) winbox - added more detailed /interface ethernet stats;
On RB433AH 'Overall Stats', 'RX Stats' and 'TX Stats' tabs are filled with zeros, not with stats data.
Bug or I missed something?
Currently I'm not able to test this on other RBs.
Regards,

Thank you very much for the problem. We will test it on Monday.

drixter · Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:23 am

drixster, will putting the AP in a bridge and run your stuff off bridge?
Bridge is always up.

Seems to be good workaround

but I don't trust it.

MediaWisp · Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:50 am

Hello Petro

I also have problems with NV2 seems very unstable both in terms of signal levels that the CCQ, if I work with nstreme the link is obviously more stable but also slower.
Initially I used both the chain is 0 and the 1 (0 = Horizontal 1 = Vertical) also I had disconnection problems, but now I'm using only the chain is 0 for TX and RX are able to stabilize the link but I have not solved the problem according to what he says you should have Mikrotik performance and very low latency, I have to settle for 40ms and 54Mb/19Mb

Myron · Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:47 pm

hey guys

anyone here had an issue in RB450G after upgrading to version 5?

thanks

Myron · Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:02 pm

ohhh myyyy whats wrong?

jan/01/1970 08:00:06 system,info verified user-manager-5.0-mipsbe.npk
jan/01/2002 09:00:02 system,error license does not support new version of user-manager-5.0
jan/01/2002 09:00:02 system,info verified system-5.0-mipsbe.npk
jan/01/2002 09:00:02 system,error license does not support new version of system-5.0
jan/01/2002 09:00:02 system,info verified security-5.0-mipsbe.npk
jan/01/2002 09:00:02 system,error license does not support new version of security-5.0
jan/01/2002 09:00:02 system,info verified routing-5.0-mipsbe.npk
jan/01/2002 09:00:02 system,error license does not support new version of routing-5.0
jan/01/2002 09:00:02 system,info verified routerboard-5.0-mipsbe.npk
jan/01/2002 09:00:02 system,error license does not support new version of routerboard-5.0
jan/01/2002 09:00:02 system,info verified ppp-5.0-mipsbe.npk
jan/01/2002 09:00:02 system,error license does not support new version of ppp-5.0
jan/01/2002 09:00:02 system,info verified ntp-5.0-mipsbe.npk
jan/01/2002 09:00:02 system,error license does not support new version of ntp-5.0
jan/01/2002 09:00:02 system,info verified multicast-5.0-mipsbe.npk
jan/01/2002 09:00:02 system,error license does not support new version of multicast-5.0
jan/01/2002 09:00:02 system,info verified mpls-5.0-mipsbe.npk
jan/01/2002 09:00:02 system,error license does not support new version of mpls-5.0
jan/01/2002 09:00:02 system,info verified ipv6-5.0-mipsbe.npk
jan/01/2002 09:00:02 system,error license does not support new version of ipv6-5.0
jan/01/2002 09:00:02 system,info verified hotspot-5.0-mipsbe.npk
jan/01/2002 09:00:02 system,error license does not support new version of hotspot-5.0
jan/01/2002 09:00:02 system,info verified dhcp-5.0-mipsbe.npk
jan/01/2002 09:00:02 system,error license does not support new version of dhcp-5.0
jan/01/2002 09:00:02 system,info verified advanced-tools-5.0-mipsbe.npk
jan/01/2002 09:00:02 system,error license does not support new version of advanced-tools-5.0

skillful · Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:31 pm

Have you updated the licence to the new 8-digit format?

What is the output of

/system license print

Swordforthelord · Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:11 pm

There is one option added,
*) ipsec - added command kill-connections under remote-peers;
DPD allows to overcome the problem too, but it should be supported by both ends.
Low value for lifetime on both ends could be used too.

Thank you, I tried DPD and it seems to work.

lekozs · Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:01 am

you are wrong, Nv2 is very much architecture dependent, there are many technical reasons which cause difficulties.
... Well I really hope this is an April fools joke...
Not a joke, it's been noted for at least a few days that it doesn't work with x86... although if you look back, at least 1 person got nv2 to work with x86 anyway.

I have been using NV2 protocol on x86 boards since 5.0RC5... I admit, the RC11 wasn't passing traffic on a WDS bridged link (my post here) but a downgrade to RC10 solved my problem.
When did it stop functioning actually?
Right now I have 3 PTP links using nv2, all on x86 boards with RC10.
Even though the OP said, he tried, and got it working, I am afraid to upgrade...
Will somebody from MT staff explain, *exactly* what isn't working with NV2 in ROSv5.0 on x86 boards?

mjoksimovic · Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:13 am

I have only one RB750, not few.

Xymox · Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:11 am

FAIL..

750G.. Upgraded from RC11 to 5.0 by dragging the new file into the file section of winbox and rebooting. Winbox started loosing connection with the router right after reboot. Opening the firewall in winbox produced completely blank pages. Then a disconnect.. I did a power cycle and when I looked at the firewall again with winbox it showed stuff again, but then CPU went to 100% and stayed there. Reboot would stop the 100% but if I did anything it would jump back to 100% again and stay there.

Not sure if traffic went thru it..

Downgraded to RC11 and everything worked fine again..

Ive done all the RC's and never had any problem until now Yea that was a fail for sure...

it never generated a support file

vladislav · Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:12 am

I have upgraded my RB1100 from 4.17 to RouterOS 5.0.
I use SNMP for retrieve data from routerboard. The problem is - while using snmp cpu RB load is about 100%
This image shows RB work without SNMP

This image show RB work with SNMP

Sorry for my English.

Added:
If change snmp trap version from 1 to 2 - CPU load becomes normal.

Xymox · Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:53 pm

Again using my 750G Doing a netinstall using 5.0 and using the default settings works. No issues..

Going to paste my settings into the terminal and lets see what happens...

NetworkPro · Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:14 pm

Sometimes I downgrade to 4.something in hope that EVERYTHING on the flash will be overwritten.

Then I try 5.x again hoping that I would get kind of a "clean" install of v5.x and not one that has mixture of different 5.x sub-versions.

A NetInstall to the router is also a good idea in my opinion.

P.S. I recall that earlier with one of the betas or RC's, me and support noticed that there was a mixture of versions on the router which caused SNMP problems.

Xymox · Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:23 pm

Netinstall and a loading of defaults with 5.0 and then loading only my required settings from a edited down export of my 5RC11 seems to have fixed things...

So far no issues with 5.0.

Must say tho. I think doing what I did, netinstall + default config and then pasting in scripts to configure might be a good idea. A clean slate is always good... I like when netinstall says "Partitioning and reformatting".

One thing I noticed.. The 750G reports a system health voltage of 2416.9 Vdc. Im pretty sure my dc adapter is not putting out 2.4kV..

Well last i checked anyway.. hehehe...

Myron · Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:25 pm

Have you updated the licence to the new 8-digit format?

What is the output of
Code: Select all
/system license print

heres the output

[myron@Kamote] /system license> print
software-id: "9CR1-V147"
upgradable-to: v4.x
nlevel: 5
features:

jtroybailey · Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:27 pm

Have you updated the licence to the new 8-digit format?

What is the output of
Code: Select all
/system license print
heres the output

[myron@Kamote] /system license> print
software-id: "9CR1-V147"
upgradable-to: v4.x
nlevel: 5
features:

Well that says you can only upgrade to v4

NetworkPro · Sun Apr 03, 2011 2:05 pm

Then upgrade to 4.17 and you will from then on be able to upgrade to 5.0

Myron · Sun Apr 03, 2011 2:28 pm

Then upgrade to 4.17 and you will from then on be able to upgrade to 5.0

awwww okies

thanks!

NetworkPro · Sun Apr 03, 2011 2:36 pm

Don't forget a /system routerboard upgrade + reboot to update the bootloader/lower level firmware as well.

BlackbirdSDH · Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:10 pm

Hi,

I use the user-manager on ROS 4.16 as radius to authenticate about 180 users via pppoe at my access concentrator.
I would like to upgrade to ROS 5.0 and use the new user-manager. Is there any chance of save the database of the ROS 4.16 user-manager and use it at the 5.0 user-manager? I'm afraid of a complete new setup. Is the "old" database compatible to the new user-manager? Do I have to setup the servers and other stuff new?

Thanks.

sbajic · Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:30 pm

I find out what is causing 100% CPU load all the time. It is ppp process when I look in profile menu it is consuming from 75-93% CPU. But there is anything which can so much load CPU (I have one pptp-out and one ovpn-out) connection.

Have anyone any idea about this?

NetworkPro · Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:24 pm

I suggest you try it like this:

- backup current working RouterOS config (.backup) and current UM database if possible
- test the backups by restoring them on another router or on a Demo install running on x86 VMWare etc
- If you tested the backup on a licensed installation - try to upgrade that and test
- Upgrade the productions system and prepare for the case its not working OK. Test everything and if you need to - install the old version and restore its backups again.

- Report here if it worked.

Thank you.

shrek777 · Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:58 pm

yesterday our routeros v5.0 sudenly crached, it was on, lan was blinking but no ping, no winbox search, so when i restart it it works again.

downgrade to 4.17 again

Belyivulk · Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:18 am

We've upgraded about 40 non critical routers to 5.0 from as low as 2.9.51 (had to go to 3, then 4 then 5 lol!) - our experience so far has been quite pleasant - better than any other major release so far, so well done MT!

Xymox · Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:32 am

I think it would be good if we all posted what hardware/model we updated and what method we used to update (drag over update in winbox or netinstall,, etc ) and what results occurred.

NetworkPro · Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:18 am

It may be safe to assume that it works, EXCEPT in the conditions that we report.

I have issues with Verbatim USB Flash booted on Intel platforms from the past decade. After a while - the Stores are lost and router needs to be rebooted by logging in with just admin<blank>.

I still like latest improvements so 5.0 is in production. On the affected machines - there is a script that auto reboots the router in case event of Store=<nothing> is hit.
Later on I will turn on store debug and make the script send me the logs via email before rebooting the router.

Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:39 am

yesterday our routeros v5.0 sudenly crached, it was on, lan was blinking but no ping, no winbox search, so when i restart it it works again.

downgrade to 4.17 again

Looks like my RB133c problem. Ethernet link up but RB considered it down.

vaizki · Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:06 am

So is the BGP memory leak fixed?

I'm still running 4.13 that came installed on our RB1100, but it's leaking memory running BGP. We're taking full routes from one peer and just default route from another. So about 350k prefixes. Memory use seems to creep up... And now I'm wondering should I just go to 4.17 or 5.0 here.

(as you can see, we started running BGP mid-week 12)

janisk · Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:15 am

I find out what is causing 100% CPU load all the time. It is ppp process when I look in profile menu it is consuming from 75-93% CPU. But there is anything which can so much load CPU (I have one pptp-out and one ovpn-out) connection.

Have anyone any idea about this?

please create supout.rif file on that router and send it to support@mikrotik.com

Xymox · Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:20 am

Well I think its still good to say what works, not just what doesn't

Netinstall 5.0 on a 450G and 750G worked flawlessly. No problems so far. I did each a few times and they worked every time..

Upgrading from RC11 by dragging and dropping the file using winbox on both failed. 100% CPU, weird winbox stuff, loss of connection from winbox, no autosupport files..

netmaster · Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:39 am

RB450G and 5.0
I trying to make Ether1 as a standalone port with removing it from the switch group. Start from default config, commands below has been working up to 4.17, but not anymore.

[admin@MikroTik] > interface bridge port remove [find]
[admin@MikroTik] > interface bridge remove [find]
[admin@MikroTik] > interface ethernet switch set switch1 switch-all-ports=no
mirror-source does not belong to switch
[admin@MikroTik] >

what does it mean with "mirror-source does not belong to switch" ?
Is there any document or other information about CLI changes between 4.x and 5.x ?

kirshteins · Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:46 am

what does it mean with "mirror-source does not belong to switch" ?

It is shown because of the bug. It will be fixed.

Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:17 am

I would like to clear up some confusion about x86 and Nv2 protocol issues that are mentioned on the download page

- x86 does not currently support Nv2 (requires RouterBOARD hardware)
x86 may be supported in the future

Nv2 protocol can be enabled on x86 and will allow this setting in the future. We have had less than ten reports of the problems below, so we consider that it may be an issue specific to certain x86 hardware configurations -- but we can not guarantee that you will not encounter this problem. If you must use an x86 device with Nv2 protocol, it is suggested that you test and monitor a device before deploying it broadly through your network.

These problems may affect clients and APs, but as far as we can determine the issue only becomes a problem when seen on an x86 AP.

We have seen 2 issues with x86 boxes that are using Nv2 wireless protocol on v4.x (with wireless-nv2 package installed), v5.0rcX and v5.X:
1) You will experience unstable performance/disconnections when using x86 router in Nv2 wireless protocol network.
2) We have received reports from clients that their x86 routers hangs/freezes when they use Nv2 wireless protocols on x86 router.

About the first issue - it is hardware related and currently we haven't found any workaround for that.
About the second issue, we were unable to reproduce this problem, that is why we haven't found a solution for that.

Beccara · Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:56 am

I would like to clear up some confusion about x86 and Nv2 protocol issues that are mentioned on the download page
- x86 does not currently support Nv2 (requires RouterBOARD hardware)
x86 may be supported in the future
Nv2 protocol can be enabled on x86 and will allow this setting in the future. We have had less than ten reports of the problems below, so we consider that it may be an issue specific to certain x86 hardware configurations -- but we can not guarantee that you will not encounter this problem. If you must use an x86 device with Nv2 protocol, it is suggested that you test and monitor a device before deploying it broadly through your network.

These problems may affect clients and APs, but as far as we can determine the issue only becomes a problem when seen on an x86 AP.

We have seen 2 issues with x86 boxes that are using Nv2 wireless protocol on v4.x (with wireless-nv2 package installed), v5.0rcX and v5.X:
1) You will experience unstable performance/disconnections when using x86 router in Nv2 wireless protocol network.
2) We have received reports from clients that their x86 routers hangs/freezes when they use Nv2 wireless protocols on x86 router.

About the first issue - it is hardware related and currently we haven't found any workaround for that.
About the second issue, we were unable to reproduce this problem, that is why we haven't found a solution for that.

And THAT is how you say a feature that was in testing has been removed from release

This:

you are wrong, Nv2 is very much architecture dependent, there are many technical reasons which cause difficulties.

Is how you insult your clients. I doubt anyone outside of MT understands the in's and out's of your NV2 protocol so when you pull NV2 support from x86 the rest of the world is going "what?" a CPU is a CPU.

Thanks Uldis for taking the time to explain the issue to us all

BlackbirdSDH · Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:23 am

I got a problem upgrading a 450G last night from 4.17 to 5.0. The board didn't come up after rebooting. Unplug and plug power back solved the problem, the RB came back with installed 5.0.

asus · Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:23 pm

new userman stable in 5.0 OS???

Jeeves · Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:58 pm

So is the BGP memory leak fixed?

I'm still running 4.13 that came installed on our RB1100, but it's leaking memory running BGP. We're taking full routes from one peer and just default route from another. So about 350k prefixes. Memory use seems to creep up... And now I'm wondering should I just go to 4.17 or 5.0 here.

(as you can see, we started running BGP mid-week 12)

I've tested 5.0 on a RB1100 with a full BGP feed. CPU is at about 80-100% usage constantly. MT says it has to do with new routecalculation and that it's 'normal'. I'm going to run with three (maybe four) full feeds and will be buying x86 hardware for that.

IMHO, the RB1100 with 5.0 is not suitable for full BGP feeds.

petro25 · Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:55 pm

Uldis That will tell about the report nv2 on distances more than 40 km ?

Whether the help in testing is necessary?

Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:02 pm

So is the BGP memory leak fixed?

I'm still running 4.13 that came installed on our RB1100, but it's leaking memory running BGP. We're taking full routes from one peer and just default route from another. So about 350k prefixes. Memory use seems to creep up... And now I'm wondering should I just go to 4.17 or 5.0 here.

(as you can see, we started running BGP mid-week 12)
I've tested 5.0 on a RB1100 with a full BGP feed. CPU is at about 80-100% usage constantly. MT says it has to do with new routecalculation and that it's 'normal'. I'm going to run with three (maybe four) full feeds and will be buying x86 hardware for that.

IMHO, the RB1100 with 5.0 is not suitable for full BGP feeds.

This is correct, that in v5.0 you will see higher CPU usages with BGP. It is due to more frequent nexthop calculations which is made to address several problems where nexthops were not updated correctly. CPU usage depends on how frequently peer receives updates (more frequent updates will cause higher cpu usage).

We are working to improve performance, but until then users who experience too high CPU usage will require faster hardware.

Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:03 pm

Beccara,

And THAT is how you say a feature that was in testing has been removed from release

Read again my post. We haven't removed anything, you can still choose Nv2 protocol on x86 router.

Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:07 pm

Uldis That will tell about the report nv2 on distances more than 40 km ?

Whether the help in testing is necessary?

Please write to support with that report and include the support output files, we will try to look more detailed.

petro25 · Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:10 pm

I resulted schedules above
At what moment to do "support output" communication normally only for not clear reason fades or reconect. Sometimes even wotchdog works thus on nstreme 100 % quality
Why on nv2 more low signal level??
Same the transmitter and receiver characteristic instead of the protocol?

Where and with what heading send files ?

vaizki · Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:20 pm

This is correct, that in v5.0 you will see higher CPU usages with BGP. It is due to more frequent nexthop calculations which is made to address several problems where nexthops were not updated correctly. CPU usage depends on how frequently peer receives updates (more frequent updates will cause higher cpu usage).

We are working to improve performance, but until then users who experience too high CPU usage will require faster hardware.

So is the 1100AH enough hardware to throw at a full feed BGP router? I do not want to go to x86 hardware, BGP is the reason I bought a RB1100 in the first place... And if I can get the CPU to handle it, is the memory leak still there?

Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:26 pm

This is correct, that in v5.0 you will see higher CPU usages with BGP. It is due to more frequent nexthop calculations which is made to address several problems where nexthops were not updated correctly. CPU usage depends on how frequently peer receives updates (more frequent updates will cause higher cpu usage).

We are working to improve performance, but until then users who experience too high CPU usage will require faster hardware.
So is the 1100AH enough hardware to throw at a full feed BGP router? I do not want to go to x86 hardware, BGP is the reason I bought a RB1100 in the first place... And if I can get the CPU to handle it, is the memory leak still there?

We are not able to repeat any memory leaks in v5.
In our tests RB1100AH handles two BGP feeds without any problems (max CPU usage during frequent updates is 48%). However Jeeves have peers that sends updates more frequently and his RB1100 is unable to handle it (CPU is fully loaded constantly).

petro25 · Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:43 pm

HAS SENT ON MAIL FILES
I can give access and include by turns different protocol

Then for communication write icq or skype

petro25 · Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:55 pm

nv2-noise-floor-offset How set it?

Has found about results I will write

On 56 km hasn't helped
Though quality of 82/97 %

20:27:55 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: disconnected, control frame timeout
20:27:57 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: connected
20:28:05 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: reconnecting
20:28:05 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: reconnecting
20:28:05 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: connected
20:28:49 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: disconnected, control frame timeout
20:28:51 wireless,info 00:0C:42:64:52:7B@wlan1: connected

alexspils · Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:06 am

i have a wds link on x86 P3-1000 with 5.0 and nv2.Its online 4 days and seems stable.no disconnects, no freezing.With some rc`s router was freezing with nv2. I have configured watchdog, if freeze will accour, i will have supout files....

Egate · Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:05 am

Virtual Ap seem to still be not working. Is this correct?

Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:09 am

Thank you very much for your reports and comments.
Please, start new topic for specific features discussions and problem reports, otherwise it is too difficult to follow up different issues in current thread.

Beccara · Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:01 pm

Just wanted to say a big congrats to MT on the 5.0 release.

So far in our experiences ROS X.0 releases normally have a major bug or two that take a while to fix or have some big issue that stops us from deploying it on even one production CPE but ROS 5.0 release is the best we've seen out of MT. We've deployed this to RB112 and RB133's running either 2.9.51 or 3.30 because ROS 4.x simply slowed them down too much and made them go funny, upgrading from 2.9.51 even tho it takes a couple of hours to ROS 5.0 gives them a new lease on life, They are fast and responsive and stable.

So congrat's MT this is shaping up to be a bloody good version

Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:11 pm

Thank you Beccara. Sorry that my previous comment upset you.

Also, I guess we can now move the v5 discussions out of the "beta" forum. Please post all v5 related questions in the "General" or other sections.

Beccara · Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:18 pm

It didn't upset me it's just that MT can be lacking in detail sometimes in their answers to questions on here, I've found in my time personally of supporting users that if you tell them why something wont work rather than it just wont work they are happier overall with you

To the general forums!

Xymox · Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:50 pm

So its time then to start a new beta ? hehehehe...

Im still after HDCPv6

Just joking. Yes im sure you guys will be very busy in the upcoming weeks.

Im very happy with 5.0. I got used to all the new features over the months with the RC's, I can imagine someone going from 2.9 or 4.x must be really impressed with all the new things... Even the RC's have been pretty polished. Im used to other companies RC's causing bricks and all sorts of serious issues. None of the RC's caused me any issues. This has been a very clean development overall.

vlada1 · Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:55 pm

Hi ,

i just upgrade RB433 from 4.11 to v5 and canot ssh to router .
it accept connection but dont accept password.
Same password works over winbox on same router.

Regards

Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:59 pm

Virtual Ap seem to still be not working. Is this correct?

VirtualAP feature isn't made for the Nv2 wireless protocol. For the rest wireless protocols it should be working.

Chupaka · Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:21 pm

i just upgrade RB433 from 4.11 to v5 and canot ssh to router .
it accept connection but dont accept password.
Same password works over winbox on same router.

seems like you're using certificate for that user - that way, you cannot connect via ssh with password; use your certificate. or simply remove all ssh keys

/user ssh-keys remove [find]

xezen · Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:19 pm

usermanager giving problems does it work?

ekkas · Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:51 pm

Usermanager works, but not 100%, there are a few issues.
If you want to upgrade from 4.xx then be sure you don't have paid customers that have time/vouchers in use... Don't ask...
Also don't try and do it remotely, you'll need new setups and train the persons using it for the new way of doing things.

vdeluca · Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:28 am

Got problems on 5.0 on RB1000.

The router runs ok for a couple of hours, but after 3 ou 4 hr running OK, it starts the cpu starvation (100%) and all PPPoE tunnels goes down.

Didn't able to downgrade, or even uninstalling a 5.0 package (tried uninstall ipv6 for example).

All tries is followed by:

dec/31/2001 22:00:01 system,error,critical System rebooted because of kernel failu
re

Send the supout and waiting for an emergently answer, because we are unable to downgrade and having heavy troubles at my core network.

adryfia · Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:10 am

I found bugs in userman v.5.0, in profile can't change when voucher start just start now. Once the voucher is made it will be directly active without user login. So mikrotik team please fix this bugs.

vlada1 · Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:27 am

Chupaka ,

i done that and still cant log in , changed pass to admin user and still cant ,
then i create new user and i log in whit new username.

Regards,

arpadffy · Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:25 pm

Hello,

I have noticed that in webfig ->IP->Firewall->NAT list the Src. Port and Dst.Port columns are empty while in the same time the webfig detailed view of the rule shows correctly.
This is not a major issue, but it is hard to identify the right rule that needs to be changed.

Thank you in advance.

Regards,
Z

janisk · Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:12 pm

Hello,

I have noticed that in webfig ->IP->Firewall->NAT list the Src. Port and Dst.Port columns are empty while in the same time the webfig detailed view of the rule shows correctly.
This is not a major issue, but it is hard to identify the right rule that needs to be changed.

Thank you in advance.

Regards,
Z

working on this.

Egate · Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:31 pm

Virtual Ap seem to still be not working. Is this correct?
VirtualAP feature isn't made for the Nv2 wireless protocol. For the rest wireless protocols it should be working.

This will cause problem but will open new topic. Thanks Aldus.

deivisfp · Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:59 pm

Is there any prevision to fix the OSPF virtual links?
It's not possible to create a multi-area topology without that.

Thanks.

nahuelon · Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:35 pm

I have updated to 5 version. I have problems with TFTP provisioning.
I receive the "tftp error ERROR code:0 string:permission denied!" and I need to go back downgrading to 4.17 version.
Thank you very much!.

janisk · Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:42 pm

what tftp entries you have? maybe there is something messed up with address part, that will not allow you to read that file? Please check that.

nahuelon · Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:12 pm

The configuration is too simple.
I have a file called "plus.cm" and only one TFTP entry with Req. and Real Filenameentry "plus.cm".
I do not use regex to write the TFTP entry.
The strange is I have a working 4.17 version, I upgrade to 5 and it doesn't work anymore. I downgrade to version 4.17 and start working ok again. Without any configuration changes.
I you need some screenshot let me know because I have to upgrade to 5 and cut the services (because is a produccion device).
Thank you very much.

arpadffy · Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:10 pm

I have noticed that in webfig ->IP->Firewall->NAT list the Src. Port and Dst.Port columns are empty while in the same time the webfig detailed view of the rule shows correctly.
This is not a major issue, but it is hard to identify the right rule that needs to be changed.
working on this.

Unfortunately, not on mine

Could you please help me what I am doing wrong.

Thank you in advance.

Regards,
Z

WirelessRudy · Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:15 am

Unfortunately, not on mine
Could you please help me what I am doing wrong.

Thank you in advance.

Regards,
Z

Did you set any src or dst address at all? In your case both config windows don't show them.
Double click on the rule to see what is actually set. You'll find much more settings not available in the default colums...

Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:39 am

Also try another browser, you are using a very old version of internet explorer, it has thousands of bugs.

Chupaka · Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:45 am

you are using a very old version of internet explorer

[offtop]where did you see that? %)[/offtop]

WirelessRudy · Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:58 am

you are using a very old version of internet explorer
[offtop]where did you see that? %)[/offtop]

Here you are, MT guru's always know more than us!

Probably some old sovjet style left over software embedded in MT-Ros to spy on users. Next thing Normis comlains about shoes I'm wearing!

iw4eky · Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:46 am

I upgraded an RB running 4.16 to 5.0 that had the NV2 package installed and when the router came back up it didn't have any wireless package enabled and lost all the wireless settings. Is there any way around this issue?

I lucked out in this case because it was the local side that I upgraded, but it could have resulted in a frustrating truckroll.
Same problem. RB433 4.16 to 5.0 Upgrade Fail (Disconnect)
NV2 package has been disabled

I had the same problem.

Transferred 5.0 via ftp to two different RB433AH working on 4.17 (bootloader 2.23) with wireless-nv2 enabled and one R52n each: rebooted and then "wireless" package was disabled in both devices, so no "wireless" tab on winbox at all.

Luckily the devices were connected on ethernet as well, so I had the chance to configure both wireless interfaces again (from scratch).

EDIT: Ok, just got the newsletter and seen it's fixed on ROS 5.1. I'll verify on Monday!

arpadffy · Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:28 pm

Hello,

Unfortunately, not on mine
Could you please help me what I am doing wrong.
Did you set any src or dst address at all? In your case both config windows don't show them.
Double click on the rule to see what is actually set. You'll find much more settings not available in the default colums...

I have problems showing the src and dst ports and not addresses... the addresses are shown, but not the ports.

Also try another browser, you are using a very old version of internet explorer, it has thousands of bugs.

I use Firefox on Linux and Chrome on Windows environment with same result

Regards,
Z

Fumi · Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:16 pm

Problem with API in 5.0??

/interface/monitor-traffic
?interface=ether1
=once=

result:
!re=rx-packets-per-second=49=rx-drops-per-second=0=rx-errors-per-second=0=tx-packets-per-second=56=tx-drops-per-second=0=tx-errors-per-second=0

where is tx/rx bites/s ??

Tanker · Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:04 pm

Just a short note to say thank you for ALL the effort which has gone into V5.0 (and the pre-releases!!)

We have wirelessly upgraded all our BSS & BST's and not one single hitch..!!

NV2 is marvelous and - generally - this version has improved the flexibility and control on the network enormously.

thanks again and keep up the good work.

btw - RB1100AH.. sheeeeeesh!!! - fantastic.

Tanker

Chupaka · Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:07 pm

Problem with API in 5.0??

/interface/monitor-traffic
?interface=ether1
=once=

result:
!re=rx-packets-per-second=49=rx-drops-per-second=0=rx-errors-per-second=0=tx-packets-per-second=56=tx-drops-per-second=0=tx-errors-per-second=0

where is tx/rx bites/s ??

yep, that 'strange' command gives strange result. correct one is "=interface=ether1", not "?interface=ether1"

saaremaa · Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:46 pm

Problem! Can not download the latest version of the ROS 5.1

Chupaka · Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:56 pm

use torrent

surfnet · Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:58 pm

I too cannot download ROS 5.1, I can download 4.17, but 5.01 gives me errors

Chupaka · Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:59 pm

use torrent, too

saaremaa · Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:01 pm

use torrent