Merge 2 DSL Lines and Give High Speed to your clients

rajamani779 · Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:45 am

Hello,

Previously i have some problems about Gateway Fail over but now that is solved. Now i have another problem please help me as soon as you can.

I have 2 dsl lines. Both have 4 mb Package. i want to merge both speed and want to give our customer high speed. After merging both dsl lines total speed will 8mb. So after 1 fail over user converted to 4 mb.

Please help me....

Waiting for your answers.

yogii · Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:31 am

i think its not possible, ask about it to your isp first.

Egate · Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:52 pm

Not possible. This is called bonding and your service provider has to support it. Some do but they supply there own routers. Closes is with PPC but the max speed will be 4 Meg although with some download managers it might appear as though you run 8 Meg because they are using both lines.

Sanity · Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:21 pm

Not possible. This is called bonding and your service provider has to support it. Some do but they supply there own routers. Closes is with PPC but the max speed will be 4 Meg although with some download managers it might appear as though you run 8 Meg because they are using both lines.

VERY Possibly if you have a concentration point outside to combine the lines again (and then use an IP address from there). Sadly Mikrotik decides to ignore the base technology to make that simple (MultiLink PPTP, including a server)

Withtou that you need to:

* Estbablish multiple PPTP links that appear on different adsl lines (easiest: hardcode /32 routes, use different target ip addresses on concentrator)
* Either use nth rules on both ends to distribute traffic over the links, OR put an EOIP / VPLS links over each, then use ethernet bonding.

PFsense and some others supposedly handle that a lot better, but Mikrotik does ignore this area. My biggest complaint - I would love to see proper PPTP handling on both sides with 5.x / 6.x. Like you I am in a similar situation - for an office where the biggest connection I can get is pathetic, sadly

alikhan8207 · Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:19 pm

It is very Simple Just call me i will give you manually setup.

Thank's

Ali Khan
alikhan@aanetworks.com.pk

rajamani779 · Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:33 am

anyone else help me.. becoz ali bro is ask for some installation charges..

n21roadie · Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:03 pm

anyone else help me.. becoz ali bro is ask for some installation charges..

How much and will it work?

rajamani779 · Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:45 pm

anyone else help me.. becoz ali bro is ask for some installation charges..
How much and will it work?

Hello n21roadie,

His charges are 5000 PKR or 60$. But i think its too much just for some settings and help.

Can you help us.

Sanity · Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:56 pm

anyone else help me.. becoz ali bro is ask for some installation charges..
How much and will it work?
Hello n21roadie,

His charges are 5000 PKR or 60$. But i think its too much just for some settings and help.

Can you help us.

Whow. Get real. I currently charge 100 USD per hour on a LONG TERM project (i.e. I am on there full time for about 8 months now), granted not for router configuration, but still.... there are areas you dont get a plumber for that. 60 USD, depending where you are, is peanuts for something that likely takes some hours thanks to a user being over his head with pro equipment (and there is no doubt that Mikrotik is NOT an end user router, but one made for people knowing a little bit what they do).

Btw., it really is not that complex, if you have a central router to work things to. I am right now watching a router happily downloading 9-11 mbit over dual 6mbit connections

Can not say i like the CPU load on the office side too much, though...

aacable · Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:23 am

anyone else help me.. becoz ali bro is ask for some installation charges..

Here is a complete guide to combine 4 DSL WAN links using Mikrotik PCC, in case anyone need it.

http://aacable.wordpress.com/2011/06/04 ... t-by-zaib/

4wan-dsl-pcc.png

Egate · Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:30 pm

Thanks aacable, maybe put it as a WIKI as well. Great writeup. Have you ever tried different setups to get the balancing more even. With this set up you always get that one or two lines would use much more data than the other once, or maybe one line would be congested while nothing happens on the other lines.

Sanity · Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:45 pm

he can not because this is not what you can do with PCC. PCC can only ever assign one connection to one line.

The only way to combine speeds is:

* Use multiple VPN links to a central outside point (like a mikrotik in a data center)
* use nth routing to distribute packets over the VPN connections.

Finished.

rajamani779 · Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:11 pm

Thanks everyone for replying.

i merge my dsl lines and getting both speed.

salman317 · Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:27 pm

@rajamani779

how u do the configurations for merging the lines

salman317 · Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:29 pm

rajamani779

how u do the configrations for merging the lines

Egate · Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:57 am

Reed the posts. aacable gave you a ling http://aacable.wordpress.com/2011/06/04 ... t-by-zaib/ with his setup and you could search the wiki for PCC sharing.

rajamani779 · Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:38 pm

rajamani779

how u do the configrations for merging the lines

You can check the above aacable link. if not understand then you can pm me i will do settings for you.

aacable · Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:11 am

rajamani779
how u do the configrations for merging the lines

http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Mikrotik_ ... _using_pcc

http://aacable.wordpress.com/2011/06/04 ... t-by-zaib/

aacable · Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:31 am

Thanks aacable, maybe put it as a WIKI as well. Great writeup. Have you ever tried different setups to get the balancing more even. With this set up you always get that one or two lines would use much more data than the other once, or maybe one line would be congested while nothing happens on the other lines.

At my friend's setup, All 4 DSL Lines were of un equal speed, 2 Lines with higher n 2 with lower bandwidth links, that's why you are seeing un equal link speed in the screen shots. However
However if you want to force MT to use one link more then other, for example WAN4, you can add more PCC lines but assigning the same two marks to a specific link , something like


add chain=prerouting dst-address-type=!local in-interface=Local per-connection-classifier=src-address:4/0 action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=WAN1_conn passthrough=yes
add chain=prerouting dst-address-type=!local in-interface=Local per-connection-classifier=src-address:4/1 action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=WAN2_conn passthrough=yes
add chain=prerouting dst-address-type=!local in-interface=Local per-connection-classifier=src-address:4/2 action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=WAN3_conn passthrough=yes
add chain=prerouting dst-address-type=!local in-interface=Local per-connection-classifier=src-address:4/3 action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=WAN4_conn passthrough=yes
add chain=prerouting dst-address-type=!local in-interface=Local per-connection-classifier=src-address:4/4 action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=WAN4_conn passthrough=yes

cicserver · Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:45 am

rajamani779
how u do the configrations for merging the lines
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Mikrotik_ ... _using_pcc
http://aacable.wordpress.com/2011/06/04 ... t-by-zaib/

This link really helped me , I have now merged 4 DSL lines, (10Mb each line) and I am now getting average of 35/36 MB in peak timings. Previously I was using TPLINK 4 wan load balancer but it had issues with secure sites , Download broken and streaming, but this pcc method gave me best performance (around 95% ok) so far.

thanks !

Egate · Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:00 pm

However if you want to force MT to use one link more then other, for example WAN4, you can add more PCC lines but assigning the same two marks to a specific link , something like

Thanks for reply. Have actually got a setup with 8 lines balanced using PCC, understand what you say. If you have a look at your total data used you will notice that the two with same speed is more or less equal. Unfortunately restarted router Monday but data sines then for each interface used is 5.2G, 1.3G, 5.4G, 3G, 4.7G 3G, 7.8G, 7.3G. From this you can notice that the lines is not used equal. After a month the difference is between 50Gig to 70 Gig It appears to me as though the last lines in the PCC group uses less traffic. I know you can manually assign a user to a link, but this is why u use PCC to do it automatic and it does a decent enough job, would just like a better balancing job.

yogii · Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:41 am

rajamani779
how u do the configrations for merging the lines
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Mikrotik_ ... _using_pcc
http://aacable.wordpress.com/2011/06/04 ... t-by-zaib/
This link really helped me , I have now merged 4 DSL lines, (10Mb each line) and I am now getting average of 35/36 MB in peak timings. Previously I was using TPLINK 4 wan load balancer but it had issues with secure sites , Download broken and streaming, but this pcc method gave me best performance (around 95% ok) so far.

thanks !

hello cicserver, please let mo know about gateway of each DSL, is 4 dsl in same gateway?

thanks..

Ibersystems · Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:49 am

anyone else help me.. becoz ali bro is ask for some installation charges..
Here is a complete guide to combine 4 DSL WAN links using Mikrotik PCC, in case anyone need it.

http://aacable.wordpress.com/2011/06/04 ... t-by-zaib/
4wan-dsl-pcc.png

What if one of your routers lose connectivity to internet? xD

saintofinternet · Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:25 am

can i use this for the bonding of 2 USB Dongles ( same service provider ) with 2G PPP links on Routerboard with USB ports.

rjickity · Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:35 am

Yes

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saintofinternet · Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:08 pm

Yes

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request to guide a bit further with script avaliable... if any??

rjickity · Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:54 am

The pcc method on the wiki is suitable. Having a mobile service rather than ethernet doesn't make much difference, your wans would probably be ppp rather than ether.

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saintofinternet · Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:57 am

seems like when using the USB 3G Bonding... the mentioned system does not work....

need something to bond the 2 USB 3G sticks

saintofinternet · Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:05 am

updates please!!!!

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