Hi,

Currently I have RB450G, and I really like RouterOS. I'm looking to upgrade my internet connection to a Gigabit one, and I think that I'll need a new router also.

Any suggestions for a Gigabit NAT/RouterOS capable router?


LE: Forgot to mention, the connection type is PPPOE.

Until I read "PPPoE" I wanted to advise on using an Ubiquiti EdgeRouter Lite. But the EdgeRouter Lite does not have PPPoE hardware accelerated. 1 Gbit/s of PPPoE is a LOT.. What about buying a modern Intel Atom / Pentium J based board and install the x86 version of RouterOS on it?
Maybe the CCR handles this kind of traffic just fine, but I have no experience with that.

I also don't know about the status of PPPoE on consumer routers (Netgear e.a.). Maybe theze DO have good hardware acceleration for PPPoE.

onnoossendrijver, thank you for your reply.

1)I was thinking about an Atom board, but the whole thing gets complicated, needs more aditional stuff to buy,eats more space, pricey, and also more power hungry.

2)That CCR should do the job just fine, but it's also pretty expensive.

3)Consumer-grade routers that handle gigabit pppoe already exist, and they're cheap at ~100$.
For example TP-Link TL-WDR3600.

The problem is that I'll miss RouterOS.

When I posted the topic, I was hoping that I could do something to save my RB450G from being replaced. I guess that there's nothing left to do.


LE: One more thing, only the WAN interface uses PPPOE. This is the type of connection that the provider offers. Behind the router it will be only NAT+DHCP, and a small number of physical computers(less than 5).

depending on how much traffic you can actually get from the provider, and how much other services can provide over the internet, you could look into RB2011. Also, there is a possibility of use of PPC heavyweights that could give you desired throughput (RB1100AH, RB1100Hx2).

Hi,

Currently I have RB450G, and I really like RouterOS. I'm looking to upgrade my internet connection to a Gigabit one, and I think that I'll need a new router also.

Any suggestions for a Gigabit NAT/RouterOS capable router?


LE: Forgot to mention, the connection type is PPPOE.

MikroTik RB493G = more Ports, more power and more wireless capabilities
MikroTik RB800 = if not many ports are needed but power is a really wish
MikroTik RB2011 = really powerful and high port density + wireless capabilities
MikroTik RB1200 = much more power but silent (fan less)
MikroTik RB1100AHx2 = many GB LAN ports, much power, strong vpn capabilities (IPSec)

CCR-1009 will be in my eyes the super thing for the future at home.

http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/deta ... TL-WDR4300
Achieves blazing WAN to LAN throughput of over 800Mbps with hardware NAT

http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/deta ... TL-WDR4300
Achieves blazing WAN to LAN throughput of over 800Mbps with hardware NAT

I'd love to see it actually achieve 1 Gbps of NAT throughput....

It probably does. All those routers do NAT in hardware. I tested a Dlink DIR-868L a few months ago.. 1Gbit/s NAT was no problem.

It probably does. All those routers do NAT in hardware. I tested a Dlink DIR-868L a few months ago.. 1Gbit/s NAT was no problem.

Wow... Wonder if MikroTik will add hardware NAT.

http://www.tp-link.com/en/article/?faqid=465

Here is a nice chart for TP-Link Routers.

Isnt hardware NAT just a marketing term for fast path ?

Isnt hardware NAT just a marketing term for fast path ?

http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Fa ... th_support

Looking at that it would seem that NAT doesn't work via fast path.... But not sure.

Hi,

Currently I have RB450G, and I really like RouterOS. I'm looking to upgrade my internet connection to a Gigabit one, and I think that I'll need a new router also.

Any suggestions for a Gigabit NAT/RouterOS capable router?

LE: Forgot to mention, the connection type is PPPOE.

MikroTik RB493G = more Ports, more power and more wireless capabilities
MikroTik RB800 = if not many ports are needed but power is a really wish
MikroTik RB2011 = really powerful and high port density + wireless capabilities
MikroTik RB1200 = much more power but silent (fan less)
MikroTik RB1100AHx2 = many GB LAN ports, much power, strong vpn capabilities (IPSec)

CCR-1009 will be in my eyes the super thing for the future at home.

RB493G has the same CPU as RB450G ... RB2011 is about 30% more powerfull than RB450G ... RB800, RB1200, RB1100AHx2 could be considered as a proper upgrade to RB450G ...

JF

Was in the same situation, decided to with a HP Microserver Gen8 that I plan to upgrade later for storage as well (under ESXi).

Here are the stats :

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Torrents cap out at ~700 mbps with ~80% cpu load.

Btw, a dual core atom handles ~450 mbps max over pppoe so you'd need something a bit stronger.

Currently I have RB450G,

If it is even actual, the RB850Gx2 would be great,
announced at the actual MuM at Venice!

RB850Gx2
- RB450G replacement, same form factor
- 500Mhz Dual Core PPC Processor
- hardware acceleration
- 512MB RAM

I'd use it just to unpack/pack pppoe frames and NAT everything to another router ...
So far, yes .. I've seen routers that can do stock gigabit over pppoe, the problem being that their hardware nat implementation is rubbish and people from openwrt won't have that into their firmware BUT I LIKE OPENWRT !!!!
Anyhow, I'm a home user. Yes, my provider gives gigabit PPPoE. I know I won't reach always reach gigabit since I'm dependent on the upload speeds of the peers where I'm downloading from BUT my providers is very big. And it has a great national peering. Alot of us mainly only do local/national traffic so we tend to reach the gigabit limit, the only problem I have right now is that I can't get that with any openwrt on my tp-link wdr3600 OR on my netgear wndr3700 ( I can barely wait for the linksys wdr1900ac ). I also got an atom d525 box which doesn't seem to be able to handle the gigPPPoE properly... buying something bigger isn't really an option since I don't need something bigger ( it would do its job just fine if it weren't for this pesky ppppoe ). Buying a CCR is expensive, bulky and alot of unneeded ports ( sfp's and stuff ).
If I could get something ~ < 150$ that would be as small as the rb750 with just 2 ports one wan, one lan ( 1:1 nat ) .. that'd be great !

Review of tp-link throughput lan-wan.

http://www.redeszone.net/tp-link/tl-wdr4300/

In spanish.

Enviado desde mi XT925 usando Tapatalk 2

Hello dexter001,

If I could get something ~ < 150$ that would be as small as the rb750 with just 2 ports one wan, one lan ( 1:1 nat ) .. that'd be great !

The RB850Gx2 is announced for $ 129,00 and comes with the same form factor
as the RB450G and it fits also in the same case for something around $ 20,00
so this is in total then $ 149,00 what could now the problem?

No problem, can barely wait for it ! I just hope it'll manage to do the gigabit pppoe without too many headaches. I mean, I hope it won't get its CPU to 100%.

Hello again dexter001,

No problem, can barely wait for it !

You have more then one choice like I am seeing it right!
RB450G will be narrow down in price because the replacement will
be available then, but on this Router you will be able to install natively
also OpenWRT!!! Also likes the RB435G or RB493G will be able to run OpenWRT
natively and based on the addon cards you will have more options then like
RouterOS is offering you!
- Soekris vpn1411 miniPCI card for more VPN throughput
- Lannic 100A miniPCI card for faster DPI
- and WLAN cards like you want to insert is also able to do.

I just hope it'll manage to do the gigabit pppoe without too many headaches.

Plain SPI & NAT would not be the problem if this is for home usage, as I see it right
but if you now turning on all options and functions RouterOS is offering you, you would be
never happy with a smaller router, then perhaps it would be great to save the money until
you are able to buy a router such as a RB800 or RB1200 then you would be more happy
with all those things.

I mean, I hope it won't get its CPU to 100%.

This is owed to the circumstances that you are turning on many
different options and this is narrow down the performance of each other router also!
What you thing I really turn on many options on a DD-WRT or OpenWRT router
likes VLANs & ACLs, QoS, DPI, SPI&NAT, Firewall rules, queues and so on,
this is also narrowing down the performance of each other router!

Sorry for waking up the old thread

I have an ubiquity edgerouter lite ( cavium dual core ). It does the job so far,capped at 750M over pppoe but with all the PBR and iptables and stuff. I was wondering if there is any comparison of RB850Gx2 with the ERL ?
I need it to do:
PPPoE @ gigabit ( or closest ).
Over this PPPoE link I'll have this:
Some port forwards for a machine
PBR for one OpenVPN tunnel ( routing a static class for myself )
A PPTP connection ( with some custom routes to it and SNAT )
A DHCP Server ( with ipv6 from the class I get over the PPPoE dynamic delegated ipv6 )
A HE.NET IPV6 Tunnel ( with PBR that I don't want to use the dyn ipv6 from PPPoE )
A couple of custom firewall rules.

The current box does this ( the only thing I didn't get to set up right is the dhcp v6 with the delegated class .. because I haven't figured it out. But the rest seems to work just fine with a low load ( 1 - 2 % cpu .. and 10% mem ).

What do you guys think ? Maybe mikrotik will send one for testing purposes ! I'm planning on getting one anyway and post the differences and setup on both.

I know that this is an oldthread but i want to share with you the tests i've made with 850Gx2 and CCR1009-8G-1S-1S+

The 850Gx2 can handle only about 600Mbps with cpu 100%, no firewall rules, only nat over pppoe.
Now i'm using a CCR1009, wan connected to port 8 (ports 1-5 are not directly connected to tile cpu). The wan - lan speed with 20 firewall rules and nat over pppoe is about 890Mpbs with 5% cpu load and underclock at 800Mhz