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indoor case for the new RB922UAGS-5HPACD

Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:29 pm

Hi,

i dont can find some indoor case for the new RB922 ?!?!?!?!?
the CA411-711 looks like it works but the front is without a hole or cut for the 3rd ETH Port ??????

mikrotik dont thinking about that ????
 
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Re: indoor case for the new RB922UAGS-5HPACD

Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:54 am

"ac" and indoor not sound good togheter...
 
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Re: indoor case for the new RB922UAGS-5HPACD

Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:17 am

Oh im thankful for any help...


Please let me now why ?

I need some new wireless ap at home... My RB751g makes to much trouble... Connection aborts and and and...

I want to buy a stable wireless ap to use my home network with ipads and iphone... All other things going on over my rb2011 rack mount 24x gbit switch wired...


What do you think about 5ghz ? Maybe the RB912 5HPnd better for me ? Or the mAP ?

I need your response to buy the right thing...
 
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Re: indoor case for the new RB922UAGS-5HPACD

Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:01 am

My only response, (for experience, I have one WISP and one Computer Shop), is:

>>>...stable wireless ap [...] with ipads and iphone...

You jocking?
stable & iToys are hard to see on same place... (also on any other mikrotik competitors products).

About the 751G: export the wireless config on the forum [/interface wireless export compact], and specify what routeros version have, thanks.
 
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Re: indoor case for the new RB922UAGS-5HPACD

Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:10 pm

751g of this is an unstable wireless AP is known.
but that is not problem-apples.

My question is why is not suitable an 802.11ac router for indoor?

and what do you recommend for indoor?
all new device did come out ... (not just apple) has a receiver 802.11ac

So no one can be in the future with current standart indoor smartphone or tablet use? only in the garden or at a hotspot? : D

I would like to only understand why no ac is recommended for indoor use. and what should I do as an alternative.
 
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Re: indoor case for the new RB922UAGS-5HPACD

Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:21 pm

"ac" and indoor not sound good togheter...
I also would like to hear why .ac doesn't sound good indoor? :o
 
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Re: indoor case for the new RB922UAGS-5HPACD

Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:54 am

I would like to see a case also.

"ac" and indoor not sound good togheter...
Really!? Please explain, this should be good.
 
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Re: indoor case for the new RB922UAGS-5HPACD

Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:48 am

Simple, is like to "convert" 5GHz classical unoverlapped 20MHz channels, to 80MHz full overlapped channels, like on 2,4GHz.

There are not big or really relevant advantage to use only 20MHz channel and one or more spatial streams compared to 802.11n.

Usually pc, phones, and other, like already on 802.11n, are not tuneable from this point of view, do not support more than 20 mhz channel,
do not have more than 1 antenna to tx and one fot rx (and sometime have only one antenna...) or can only be used indoor frequencies, on regulatory domain.

On Routerboard you can set/do anything, but if the device do not support extended configuration opotion, you can not do any for prevent channels overlapping between AP.
And channels overlapping = interferencies = "ac" are "converted" like 2.4GHz

On Italy (and others) usable indoor channels are from 5180 MHz to 5320.
Max unoverlapped 802.11a AP=8
Max unoverlapped 802.11n (20+20) AP=4
Max unoverlapped 802.11ac (20+20+20+20) AP=2
And the last line make clear one thing: on 2.4GHz usually are usable 1 - 6 - 11 scheme for mitigate interferencies, on "ac" are usable only 2 unoverlapped sum of channels. the third AP interfer surely to the other 2.

And for the end: the max EIRP is the same: more channels = less power for each channel... again with RouterBoard you can set everything, but the smartphone, laptop, etc. is near impossible to set that parameter.
 
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Re: indoor case for the new RB922UAGS-5HPACD

Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:39 am

If you design enterprise WLAN with many APs you probably have to plan around non-overlapping 20mhz or 40mhz channels, but this also doesn't mean that you can't take advantages of 802.11ac can provide and use 80mhz channels then available.

But for SOHO users or house owners with heavy multimedia demands, or gamers with increasingly popular mini itx plus good wifi adapter builds etc. 802.11ac provides finally realistic wifi solutions. Of course smartphones/tablets are normally crap 1x1 designs, but these are not the only wifi clients.
 
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Re: indoor case for the new RB922UAGS-5HPACD

Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:16 pm

I use ac AP product from another vendor for my home/office usage and it works like a charm ... throughput is higher than n products and it saves time shifting large files from and to my fileserver ... I will upgrade my rb912-2hnd (curently with r11e-5hnd) card as soon as r11e-5hacd becomes available in my country. rb922 is an interesting product and a case for it would be very welcome. I hope mikrotik makes a case with 4 antenna holes for it.

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Re: indoor case for the new RB922UAGS-5HPACD

Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:41 am

But for SOHO users or house owners with heavy multimedia demands, or gamers with increasingly popular mini itx plus good wifi adapter builds etc. 802.11ac provides finally realistic wifi solutions. Of course smartphones/tablets are normally crap 1x1 designs, but these are not the only wifi clients.
But they make 90% of the market.
Imho 802.11ac is a nice gimmick in a market that needs to show, and sell, every so many years something completely new. So consumers will buy the latest and the industry makes money again. But in reality real improvements are not by far on what is promised..

Industry and professional user can make better use of latest technology but it comes at a price and a lot of effort.... It's not as simple as grabbing some 'ac' devices and you upgrade your network to the latest, much faster, performance.

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