Hi, I'm testing the router RB951G with the new ISP bandwidth Movistar in Spain to 300 Mb and you can not get the maximum 300 MB. The maximum obtained is far about 260 Mb.

We tried FastTrack but the result is very bad that we lost about 15 or 20 Mb, is this normal? With FastTrack not it be better?

Thanks in advance.

You call that "very bad"?
Did you verify that the full 300 Mbit is available when you omit the router?
Note that those speeds, when specified on cable networks, are actually a shared speed within a small area.
So you will not have the full speed available, but only what is left over when subtracting the usage by your neighbors.
(on fiber and DSL this is usually different)

If the problem is in your router your cpu usage will be very high.
If the cpu usage of the router stay low then it is not the problem.
Fasttrack can help with that a lot if setup correctly.

The cpu used normaly is very low, between 0 and 5 %, only is high when I do the speed test, then the cpu can be 100%, but if enable fasttrack then the result off speed test is 10-20 Mb worst.

I am technical computer specialist, testing the router do with only a PC and wired, not wifi, and under the same conditions with the free router Movistar get up to 315 Mb and the Mikrotik I'm 260 Mb (with Mikrotik cpu overclock at 700 Mhz)

Regards

Hi,

I have the same problem with Movistar, I think Fastrack does not support PPPoE connections yet,...I hope will be implemented in future versions.

Regards.

Same problem with Movistar 300mb/30mb


My best mikrotik download test 207mb/30mb

with movistar router 301mb/32mb

Router: RB751G-2HnD - 6.27

I am getting the same issue, bur not just Movistar, any kind of FAST internet (over 200 Mbps aprox).

Is so difficult to get the full speed, but if I setup the cheap router from the ISP we can achieve the speed.

With Avatel, in a customer, we have 200/200 (guarantee)... If I setup a SINGLE mark conn/packet, the speed downs to 100/120 Mbps... Just, with out any kind of rules, I got 200 Mbps..

Do we need to use a bigger router/cpu for fast internet? OR are we doing something wrong?

Router: RB751G-2HnD - 6.27

You need upgrade to 6.29.1 and enable fasttrack

Do buy a rb850, relatively inexpensive and very much fast enough.

You would read the post, I have two routers with 6.29.1 version and with fasttrack I have worst results

But the fast track doesn't allow ip mangle and many useful stuff.

I was happy with my two mikrotik, she thought it was good, and a year they have only served to me, as soon as I got more speed the router not can to process the information, is that the problem was that the cpu is too slow, I am very disappointed.

I have looked to sell it to exchange for 800gx2 is that nobody wants these routers and gx2 is more of the duoble cost than RB951 , not will be valid for the extension of movistar in the next months at 100 Mb , only 700 Megabyte un the tests. The bad quality routers of movistar can wirk easily at this soeed whithout messing up the hair, so this routers have been for my bad buy software in the operation in that I like, but in a short time nit work, can not be spent 140 € or just use it for year

And from this point of view, the power of answer and support has been Mikrotik zero.
About fastrack use… need to use filters and rules, so it is a bit like in those condition, I think not is valid if not work wot them

Regards

you need to do all kind of mangle, queuing and firewalling at 300 mbit throughput??

you need a CCR 1009 with passive cooling

I can't understand this answer, is incredible for me not receve solutions and have to read this thinks... My router is in my house not is profesional use, in forums in Spain all proole talk about this, I would like can use all the bandwith that I pay to my provider. I not need all bandwith, you need go to 240 km/h with you car? If your car not run at 120 yo would be happy?

I not need all you say, but I need only filter and 30 or 40 simples rules for work with a sumple nass with NAT for the ports for their applications... Torrent, vpn, very easy and simple use.

Sorry but you argument for fire my opinion is not valid :

The comtrend vg-8050 from movistar support very better the connection at 300 mb and what say at 1000 Mb that RB851G and 800gx2, what are you saying? You not understand this? Do you want to see my captures for comtrend vs mikrotik? If the router movistar gifts wgy pay mo ey for other you can't use all your bandwith? Can you answer this?

I can't understand this answer, is incredible for me not receve solutions and have to read this thinks... My router is in my house not is profesional use, in forums in Spain all proole talk about this, I would like can use all the bandwith that I pay to my provider. I not need all bandwith, you need go to 240 km/h with you car? If your car not run at 120 yo would be happy?

I not need all you say, but I need only filter and 30 or 40 simples rules for work with a sumple nass with NAT for the ports for their applications... Torrent, vpn, very easy and simple use.

Sorry but you argument for fire my opinion is not valid :

The comtrend vg-8050 from movistar support very better the connection at 300 mb and what say at 1000 Mb that RB851G and 800gx2, what are you saying? You not understand this? Do you want to see my captures for comtrend vs mikrotik? If the router movistar gifts wgy pay mo ey for other you can't use all your bandwith? Can you answer this?

If you don't want to buy a routerboard that's quick enough, just use the provider supplied cpe.

Error, can be deleted

1. I have two router RB951G and one RB751G, not is question about choose between buy a router or use the router of the provider.

2. My cpu usage is only 3% when I do the test, the test is done with ethernet cable and I receive 100% sure more of 300 MB.

3. With the provider's router Comtrend vg-8050 from Movistar the speed is more hight that 300 Mb, about 315 Mb and work perfectly.

4. When I change the Comtrend router for my RB951 only Malosa script for Movistar the speed is about 230 Mb only, I can have more speed with overclocking the cpu, so is this the problem, is needed cpu more faster. When I add my few filter rules and NAT rules, then the speed only is of 210-230 Mb. I am not using queue simple or queue tree or mangle, so this not is the problem.

5. I love Mikrotik, and all things I can do, but in this post... who want help to say any solution? People only talk defending Mikrotik. The question not is if Mikrotik yes or not of if Mikrotik us provider´s router, the question is the 850gx2 is expensive for me and not is sufficient so In the forums in Spain the people are selling will wait to other router that can support 1000 Mb or higher or other manufacturer that support this speed.

The question is I think :

1. This fastantic router has becomo to be old too son.

2. The next generation not is valid for me becouse not support 1000 Mb for the next Movistar bandwith

I am expert user but I not need very very special requeriments, only nat and a few filter rules, so the comments about I not buy Mikrotik or I need very high requeriment , these comments simply too many. There seems to be too fanatical or advocate mikrotik here and nobody brings no solution, only fight against someone who has bought some apparatuses and makes it obsolete and no one seems to recognize.

As I say I was looking for a solution and as option to buy a model to support this speed, but the RouterBoard 850Gx2 (mistakenly I think I put before the 800) the cost is higher 131 € and it does not have wifi, so the cost is almost double what cost me the RB951 and also not worth me to the next Movistar hop rate to 1000Mb (is near this announce), which does not make sense to buy now to occur as the RB951.

I'm just showing a question and waiting for Mikrotik take action on the matter, it is not for everyone criticize or put to debate with me, the facts are the facts and for domestic buyers RB751 Mikrotik and RB951 the 850gx2 not solution nor is it already has limitations or the cost.

Regards

P.D. Excuse me for the double post, but I can't modify the post and that wrote from the phone and I Submit without finish to modfy my post.

I can't understand this answer, is incredible for me not receve solutions and have to read this thinks... My router is in my house not is profesional use, in forums in Spain all proole talk about this, I would like can use all the bandwith that I pay to my provider. I not need all bandwith, you need go to 240 km/h with you car? If your car not run at 120 yo would be happy?

I not need all you say, but I need only filter and 30 or 40 simples rules for work with a sumple nass with NAT for the ports for their applications... Torrent, vpn, very easy and simple use.

Sorry but you argument for fire my opinion is not valid :

The comtrend vg-8050 from movistar support very better the connection at 300 mb and what say at 1000 Mb that RB851G and 800gx2, what are you saying? You not understand this? Do you want to see my captures for comtrend vs mikrotik? If the router movistar gifts wgy pay mo ey for other you can't use all your bandwith? Can you answer this?

If you don't want to buy a routerboard that's quick enough, just use the provider supplied cpe.

totally agree

This afirmation is false, RB951G and RB850 are more slow than Comtrend VG-8050 from Movistar.

You job for Mikrotik? Please say any that can help to all person that we have write in the post that Mikrotik is more slow that the Movistar's router, and not try to lie to the people, the Mikrotik can be more practical, and efficient, may be more complete in general, but not is enough faster, in fact is the most slow.

Please say the true, Comtrend from Movistar ACTALLY IS MORE FASTER THAST ALL MIKROTIK MODELS LIKE rb751,RB951 and rb850g/gx2 and the same of last model from the other manufactures.

Mikrotik is sleeping? Or all Mikrotik personal are writing in this post? Please work more and better to solve our problems, the customers we can't buy new router every year.

I can't understand this answer, is incredible for me not receve solutions and have to read this thinks... My router is in my house not is profesional use, in forums in Spain all proole talk about this, I would like can use all the bandwith that I pay to my provider. I not need all bandwith, you need go to 240 km/h with you car? If your car not run at 120 yo would be happy?

I not need all you say, but I need only filter and 30 or 40 simples rules for work with a sumple nass with NAT for the ports for their applications... Torrent, vpn, very easy and simple use.

Sorry but you argument for fire my opinion is not valid :

The comtrend vg-8050 from movistar support very better the connection at 300 mb and what say at 1000 Mb that RB851G and 800gx2, what are you saying? You not understand this? Do you want to see my captures for comtrend vs mikrotik? If the router movistar gifts wgy pay mo ey for other you can't use all your bandwith? Can you answer this?

If you don't want to buy a routerboard that's quick enough, just use the provider supplied cpe.

And stop trolling.

Can you set your comtrend with the same configuration complexity? Can it do the same job for you instead mikrotik router? And with better performance? If yes. Why are you complaining here?

Anyway if you get worse results with fasttrack, you probably misconfigured something. There are also performance differences according to queue type you use on interfaces.

Actually, with connection tracking off, a 951g does the gigabit just fine, pure routing. With pppoe, probably not.
You might just the provider cpe to do that and deploy the Mikrotik behind it.
I'm fuzzy on what FastTrack actually is and what its limitations are, so you'd have to experiment on that and expect strange results.

Or, buy a faster one. It's not going to get magically quicker on its own.

In the comtrend we cant setup configuration like in a Mikrotik. And we know it.

But, in my customer routers, with the Comtrend I got the 300 Mbps with 20 or 30 dst-nat for incoming port, like cameras, RDP and etc

In the mikrotik, if I setup 2 or 3 dst-nat for cameras, the speed drops automatically from 300 to 250/260......

In the comtrend I can prioritize the voip. In the mikrotik, when I did it, mangle-packet mark/connections the speed comes down to 150...

I love mikrotik, and I won't change it right know, but something is wrong in the performance/or something... I don't know...

There is nothing wrong at all. The isp cpe probably is a cheap chip that does exactly what is needed in hardware and nothing else. Mikrotik is an all purpose router that does it all in software.
And don't complain that it's slow. Go buy a $2000 cisco router and see how fast that is in comparison.

Post the problematic firewall rules list export here. Maybe someone could give you some hint.

And stop trolling.

The one is trolling here are you and the persons that not have respect for me and the persons that we are asking to Mikrotik salling our router not can´t give the needed service:

Trolling is: "a troll is someone who exists to hurt people, cause harm, and break a bunch of stuff because that's something brutish trolls just … do, isn't it?"

That I have to buy other product? Ok, wich product? RB850gx2... this cost of this router is about 132 € and not support the next speed to 1000 Mb.... only about 700-800 Mb and not have wifi and the cost is the doble of my RB951g of the last year, so what´s are you telling? I have to buy to my house a router for a big company? I prefer not adjective qualify with these comments.

If any person write telling my router Mikrotik that I bougth recently not work and the free router from provider work perfectly, router of low quality (in difference with Mikrotik wich all person here think is a great rotuer, and I write this by myself in previous posts, so, this not is the question) and barkas and other persons answer telling:

- barkas: "Do buy a rb850, relatively inexpensive and very much fast enough." [relatively inexpensive no, is false, is the double of the cost of RV951G and without Wifi, 70 vs 140]
- chechito: "you need a CCR 1009 with passive cooling" [I was looking in amazon, the price is only about 400$, ok, may be you want gift one unit to zinkpad,Tesl4, hgonzale and me]
- If you don't want to buy a routerboard that's quick enough, just use the provider supplied cpe. [remember here quick enough is relative, becouse Mikrotik do a lot fo things the free router not do, but not is more faster, else I not would have open this post]
-barkas: "stop trolling"

I think this users and speccially barkas need to have more respect to the users that zinkpad,Tesl4, hgonzale, and me and a lot of in the spanish formus that have recently routers Mikrotik and that you say "we will have to buy other again?"

This is like going to the mechanical with bmv from 2.014 and say that does not go 120 km / h and the dependent respond and with cockiness "yet, please buy a top model", that is what you are doing, barkas and chechito, perhaps you may become people with lots of money and that you swin in the abundance, but I not, so pleas not answer so to me and other persons, this is not helpfull and no, we will not be silent and less for you.

We are customers of Mikrotik and not is logic nor reasonable answer us so. To say that are not needed support forums. Clearly pulling this router and buying one that serves for a company of 100 employees there will be no problem, but is not that what is here and except for two or three comments've all come to tell us to buy another, Barkas, that it is trolling, if you not want help to us, please not answer to my post, thanks.

I work with clients in life and I will respond well happen angry people saying buy yourself another as if we were stupid.

Jarda, thanks for your post, I am out of my house, wen I arrive to my house I will write my setup but I have done a lot of tests, and if I disconnect all my services in my network, all work, and overclocking from 600 mhz to 700 I get a few more of 300 Mb, but when I connect the cables and the router start to receive socket to connect, I think I have about 10 permanent connections, then the speed only can be between 230 or 260 Mb (with cpu overclock to 700 and with fasttrack) with cpu at 600 the speed is beween 207 and 220 Mb.

Regards

RB850Gx2 is still relatively low cost. If you buy an enterprise level connection from a big provider at this speed, the cpe will most likely be a Cisco asr1000 series router, which is truly expensive.

Then, understand that the people here do this for fun in their free time. I have zero patience for you ranting about your router being too slow but not wanting to invest in a faster one.
The router is exactly as fast as advertised. I know because I own one and tested it.
So we offered three options - simplify your configuration or buy a faster one or go with what your provider gives you.
But you don't want any of those and blame us - well, I can't help you then and watch this thread out of morbid curiosity anyway, because you're not the first poster on the road to entertaining fail.

The router is exactly as fast as advertised. .

Ok, great, al least, how many post are needed for someone to recognize that the router does not give more of themselves? Finaly to have use the magic word, but you invert the words... "as fast as advertised" or the same not is more faster or is more slow that the router of the provider.

The discussion began when someone in this case it makes me look silly for wanting to use my bandwidth and not buy another router in less than a year.

the solution is to buy another? okay. Forums for now I'll have to copy him his words so that users understand that because these are so cheap routers need to be changed each year, to see what they think..

do calculations:
RB951G cost was about 70 €, the router of provider free, and RB850Gx2 the double, 132 €

You say 70 € is low cost and 132 € is low cost.... yes for enterprise is low cost, but this router is for residential users for our houses, not for enterprise.
Please only show to us the link with the specification that you say this is advertised, I was looking for that and not found it. I am software programmer, not expoert in network and may be not have understood, and may be you can clarificate to the world the maximun speed becouse in the forums the people are crazy trying setup better their routers. and I not have woud have to be here opening and writing in a post in which it is asked support discussing whether it is slower than one that is clearly faster (if not he would not have never opened this post)

You can show now to us, is easy, the link and the name of the technical specification for the maximum speed, so I will post that specification of all potencial routers to residential users to advertise with the limitation ot this router and th RB580G2 that now all users want buy without know the maximum bandwith.

Please wirte the link and the maximum specification that you say "as advertised" and then this post will can be closed.

You are great. I doubt you write in this post the link with the feature that you say, and I applaud you if you do.

Regards

http://routerboard.com/RB951G-2HnD

You're welcome.

And FYI Mikrotik routers are primarily for enterprise users.

http://routerboard.com/RB951G-2HnD

You're welcome.

And FYI Mikrotik routers are primarily for enterprise users.

Which is the feature for maximum bandwith for pppoe?

At least you can see mode bridging and routing and talk about 25 filter rules, I have 9 filters rules and 39 nat not active when do the test, but between 4 and 39 I have the same result.


This is my setup for the user ask before:

1. Fliter rules (in the specification talk about 25, I have only 9 enable


2. NAT rules, 39 lines, only redirect ip´s not in use when I do the test


3. Onlty default Malosa automatic Mangle


4. Not simple queue


5. Not queue tree


I think not is very special, the cpu is in lower use when I do te test at 2-3% and when I do the test then go up until 80-93%.

Regards

http://routerboard.com/RB951G-2HnD

You're welcome.

And FYI Mikrotik routers are primarily for enterprise users.

Which is the feature for maximum bandwith for pppoe?

At least you can see mode bridging and routing and talk about 25 filter rules, I have 9 filters rules and 39 nat not active when do the test, but between 4 and 39 I have the same result.


This is my setup for the user ask before:

1. Fliter rules (in the specification talk about 25, I have only 9 enable


2. NAT rules, 39 lines, only redirect ip´s not in use when I do the test


3. Onlty default Malosa automatic Mangle


4. Not simple queue


5. Not queue tree


I think not is very special, the cpu is in lower use when I do te test at 2-3% and when I do the test then go up until 80-93%.

Regards

The numbers are for connection tracking off, so no nat etc.
What I wrote above is still true, the device is probably too slow but you probably knew that before your first post here.

The numbers are for connection tracking off, so no nat etc.
What I wrote above is still true, the device is probably too slow but you probably knew that before your first post here.

Hi, at any time I wanted to generate controversy as you have wanted to indicate, but I bother certain types of reviews that trivialize the things I've done a thousand tests and could not more, but the strangest thing is that with FastTrack got worse, and it did not seem logical.

Before posting I was informing me, because in the forums is a danger that one is criticized for not informed before asking you run, and after reading the FastTrack seems to not work on certain conditions, VLAN, NAT, etc. But one thing do not do it, and another that works worst and thought I could be doing something wrong. I posted in Spanish forums and am probably one of the most testing've done and other people are a little lost.

Do not quite understand your last sentences, I am not native English, some other things I have to translate and use google translator.

I do not understand the suspicion that possibly already knew before posting.

I put the post because I ran out of ideas what to try to make the team last me more than a few months, do not think you have to suspect that there are other purposes behind.

The options are to stay with what I have, losing part of my bandwidth between 13.5 and 20% or buy a router that also last me one year, or buy another brand that I know and surely not like that Mikrotik.

With the data from Mikrotik, with 25 filter rules (I not kwno if this is the same of nat, for me is different thinks), the maximum bandwith for RB951G are 244 Mb... but for the 850Gx2 then only are 488,2.. yes, is sufficiente for 300 Mb, but not for work with the next hope in the next six months at 1000Mb, so I think a lot of users can be pay the double for win only 60 or 75 Mb becouse actually 300 Mb is the maximum and after they will be more angry than me becouse 488 is less or the middle of 1000Mb.

I think it is legitimate that users who buy this model as the latest and we're going to last very angry and cheated, or is it not understandable that?

Regards

Also if your modem offers "ppp-ip extension", you should definitely try that--it will terminate the PPPOE session on the modem and bridge (well, not really bridge but the idea is the close enough) the IP data to the LAN port. That will relieve your Mikrotik from dealing with PPPOE so it can use the accelerated goodies.

Is your ISP really not 1500B MTU capable? One would think that by now they would be--have you tried turning off the automatic PPPOE MSS clamping rule?

As an ISP guy, I have to say: it sucks that your ISP inflicts PPPOE on you and your 300Mbit service!

No. Gigabit means rb1100ahx2 or ccr anyway.
You can not expect a 70eu router to do everything you could ever want. There are performance considerations when buying a router which you ignored completely and you have nobody to blame for that but yourself.
Instead you feel cheated and blame Mikrotik, the forms and everyone else.

Nobody cheated you, you didn't read the data sheet, you got what you paid for, now move on.

I would begin with a thorough cleanup of rules, especially expensive rules that add processing overhead.

Why are you adjusting the MSS? Do you _really_ have a problem with that?

Javier I'm afraid the "problem" comes with the 951 being a "general purpose router" having to encapsulate all traffic to PPPoE by using the routers CPU.

The comtrend most probably has this accelerated by hardware, that's why it handles 300Mbps with no problem. But as you already know, it brings other problems on its own.

Unless some kind of optimization is doable by Mikrotik part, the only way to handle this right now is by CPU power.

Have you tried cloning the comtrend ether mac address on the mikrotik ethernet wan interface? (advisable to use ether1 though I think that's already what malosa's scripts do).

I noticed a difference in speed when I did this (to be able to recover the connection after a power-loss, as the ONT won't let the mikrotik to link otherwise)

javierc, please send us your supout.rif file and if possible, remote access to your device. Maybe we can see how to optimize your setup.

Any news regarding this? Is a common issue in Spain...

Also if your modem offers "ppp-ip extension", you should definitely try that--it will terminate the PPPOE session on the modem and bridge (well, not really bridge but the idea is the close enough) the IP data to the LAN port. That will relieve your Mikrotik from dealing with PPPOE so it can use the accelerated goodies.

Is your ISP really not 1500B MTU capable? One would think that by now they would be--have you tried turning off the automatic PPPOE MSS clamping rule?

As an ISP guy, I have to say: it sucks that your ISP inflicts PPPOE on you and your 300Mbit service!

yeah pppoe its from adsl times when was expected to do tunneling over ATM networks, now ethernet and IP its everywhere

Hi,

As many others users in this thread I have the same problem with Movistar. Before the RB951G I had a TL-WR1043ND-v2.1 with OpenWRT CC and my speedtest was ~230Mbps...

With the Comtrend Vg-8050 I got 300Mbps without problems, but I noticed the Comtrend has x2 CPU cores 400Mhz...okay, then I thought the problem was that I had no enough CPU...

A friend of mine bought an Asus RT-N66U (one core CPU) and he installed DDWRT on it, and also the speedtest was ~200-250Mbps...but surprise, with the original firmware got 300Mbps without problems, and the CPU was about 6%-10%

Then I bought my MT thinking the problem was OpenWRT and DDWRT (no NAT hardware acceleration), and keeping in mind that I need a router with VLAN support for Movistar (VLAN6-Internet, VLAN2-IPTV, VLAN3-VoIP)....but unfortunately is not enough...

Why the RT-N66U can reach the 300Mbps with x1 CPU core???

Regards!

PD: please, keep in mind that I'm not a networks specialist.

javierc, please send us your supout.rif file and if possible, remote access to your device. Maybe we can see how to optimize your setup.

Hi , how can I send the supout.rif to you?

Regards

I am not sure if I am getting erratic performance from the RB2011 or if the ISP started getting overloaded with the recent rollout of higher speeds.

I have the impression I get good performance more consistently if I connect directly to the modem.

Fastrack and not too many rules.

No PPPoE or Spain, but NAT (so double NAT in total).

I tried disabling the NAT on the Mikrotik, but then I cannot ping or connect to the modem, although I reach the internet. The modem can only be configured with a 255.255.255.0 netmask, so I used /25 networks on the routerboard for this trial.

Sometimes I get the top performance this connection is giving me (490Mbps), but mostly it falls a lot.

Looking further, I am inclined to blame the RB2011.

But the speed seems to be maxing out at around 50% CPU.

I tried getting rid of the NAT on the Mikrotik but with the crippled modem from the ISP, it doesn't seem possible.

javierc, open a ticket linking to this post, and send the supout file to support@mikrotik.com including the ticket #

*** I found how to make it route fast !!! ***

You have to take the port out from the RouterOS bridge.

So now the port goes straight to the CPU for routing.

This means forgetting about wire speed switching for this port.

So you have to choose between fast routing or fast switching for the port.

Myself, I see this now as the #1 area for Mikrotik to improve .

I see consistent 490Mbps from the fast locations now on RB2011.

I've even hit 505Mbps once with one of the tests now, higher than the contracted 500Mbps bandwidth.

If you have webfig or winbox open, the performance will drop a lot in any case. I don't know of a good way to measure the router load during these tests, suggestions welcome.

javierc, open a ticket linking to this post, and send the supout file to support@mikrotik.com including the ticket #

I not know how open a ticket, where is the link or the information to do it?

Thaks

Just send the email and see...

javierc, please send us your supout.rif file and if possible, remote access to your device. Maybe we can see how to optimize your setup.

Hi normis,

As you can see in previous javierc's screenshots, we have 2 change MSS rules on mangle section.

In an hypothetical case that RouterOS will support FastTrack on PPPoE connections, these rules will make disable FastTrack???...

Thanks!

Just send an email citing what normis said, and the link to this post.

Though something in 6.30 changelog caught my attention?

Just send an email citing what normis said, and the link to this post.

Though something in 6.30 changelog caught my attention?

I think someone of MT support should reply on this thread, because there are more people "affected". Movistar are migrating theirs users from 100/10 to 300/30, and there are a lot of confusing in Spanish forums...sell their RB951G or wait until MT say if FastTrack on PPPoE will help us to reach 300/30, or simply say: "guys, you need other router with more CPU".

Anyway, I'm not saying the problem is MT, the problem is that the FastTrack feature launch have coincided with the Movistar migration, and all people have hope on this feature.

Regards!

*** I found how to make it route fast !!! ***

You have to take the port out from the RouterOS bridge.

So now the port goes straight to the CPU for routing.

This means forgetting about wire speed switching for this port.

So you have to choose between fast routing or fast switching for the port.

Myself, I see this now as the #1 area for Mikrotik to improve .

I see consistent 490Mbps from the fast locations now on RB2011.

I've even hit 505Mbps once with one of the tests now, higher than the contracted 500Mbps bandwidth.

If you have webfig or winbox open, the performance will drop a lot in any case. I don't know of a good way to measure the router load during these tests, suggestions welcome.

I have the suspicion this last comment, which applied when running webfig or winbox also on the bandwidth test client motivated the alpha release of the Tik App.

The Tik App is great! I could now monitor the load with hardly any impact on the bandwidth test performance.

500Mbps on RB2011 no problem using upto 65% CPU.

javierc, please send us your supout.rif file and if possible, remote access to your device. Maybe we can see how to optimize your setup.

Hi , how can I send the supout.rif to you?

Regards

Hi javierc,

Finally have you contacted with support team??

Regards!

*** I found how to make it route fast !!! ***

You have to take the port out from the RouterOS bridge.

So now the port goes straight to the CPU for routing.

This means forgetting about wire speed switching for this port.

So you have to choose between fast routing or fast switching for the port.

Myself, I see this now as the #1 area for Mikrotik to improve .

I see consistent 490Mbps from the fast locations now on RB2011.

I've even hit 505Mbps once with one of the tests now, higher than the contracted 500Mbps bandwidth.

If you have webfig or winbox open, the performance will drop a lot in any case. I don't know of a good way to measure the router load during these tests, suggestions welcome.

This solution is FAIL. As multicast DNS will not cross subnets, my computer cannot find the multifunction printer.

So Mikrotik must either find a way of fast routing while in a bridge, or provide the multicast forwarding solution so many people ask for.

Common problem in Spain with Movistar due to PPPoE... so now it's impossible to reach the current 300/30 with Mikrotik.

Do you think the new functionalities I saw in the 6.30 changelog will improve this situation for PPPoE users?

Thanks

There is a solution to get 300 mbps (and much more) with Movistar. You can make the ONT handle the pppoe connection. After that FastTrack will be enabled in the Mikrotik.

I have been using this approach for a couple of months, with TV, Voip, hostspot... without any problems. I also got rid of TV pixelations that used to happen under load.

http://routerboard.com/RB951G-2HnD

You're welcome.

And FYI Mikrotik routers are primarily for enterprise users.

Yeah, true enterprise. That's why we see 1000 bugs every new version. I mean in every version atleast 1 major stuff is broken. Come on.... Mikrotik is a cheap alternative to a true enterprise stuff. That's all. I can start by pointing at CCR's.... reboot, factory defaults, port flapping,... it's been more then a year that this device was in my closet because IT WAS UNUSABLE in enterprise enviroment.

EDIT:

I wouldn't have writtent anything if it weren't for such "smart" comments.

http://routerboard.com/RB951G-2HnD

You're welcome.

And FYI Mikrotik routers are primarily for enterprise users.

Yeah, true enterprise. That's why we see 1000 bugs every new version. I mean in every version atleast 1 major stuff is broken. Come on.... Mikrotik is a cheap alternative to a true enterprise stuff. That's all. I can start by pointing at CCR's.... reboot, factory defaults, port flapping,... it's been more then a year that this device was in my closet because IT WAS UNUSABLE in enterprise enviroment.

you can use our new bugfix software branch, in this branch no new features are added, only fixes. it is very stable for a while now. maybe the CCR had issues when it was just released, but not for some time now. Works really good for many large companies

There is a solution to get 300 mbps (and much more) with Movistar. You can make the ONT handle the pppoe connection. After that FastTrack will be enabled in the Mikrotik.

I have been using this approach for a couple of months, with TV, Voip, hostspot... without any problems. I also got rid of TV pixelations that used to happen under load.

Hi JuanRamiro,

Could you please tell us how to do this? I know a lot of users that are waiting for a solution like the one you said.
I guess it depends also on the ONT model you have.

Best regards!

My ONT is the Huawei HG8240 so I followed the instructions on this page to get the pppoe on the ONT. How is your Spanish?

http://goo.gl/8LXQPm

I will now try to "briefly" describe the changes I have done.

On the ONT:
1. I configured the pppoe connection (following the instructions in the url above) and I made it available on ports 2, 3 and 4 trough routing/NAT. The local IP for the ONT is 192.168.0.1/24 but you could change it if you want.
2. I also configured the DMZ with the Mikrotik IP address (192.168.1.2)
3. I left port 1 in bridge mode so I could access vlans 2 and 3 (for TV and VoIP) from the Mikrotik router.

In the Mikrotik router:
1. I connected a second cable from eth2 to the port 2 of the ONT. In this interface I added an IP address (192.168.1.2) and made 192.168.0.1 (the ONT) as the default gateway.
2. So now I have access to vlans 2 and 3 in eth1, and NATed Internet in eth2. These two interfaces are now the wan interfaces for the Mikrotik. The rest of the ports (3 and up) are now the (Mikrotik) LAN ports. I configure eth3 as master port and the rest of the ports of the switch slaves of that port. If you have another switch (like in the RB2011) you can bridge the switches as usual. You can also add the wlan interfaces to this bridge if you need it (I do).
3. My LAN uses 10.0.0.0/24 so I add 10.0.0.1 to eth3 (the master port) or to the bridge if you have it.
4. I enabled NAT (masquerade) in eth2 to give Internet access to the rest of the LAN . Yes this makes this configuration "double NAT", but that shouldn't be a problem in most cases. Because the IP of the Mikrotik is the DMZ in the ONT your ports mappings in the Mikrotik will still work.
5. Now everything should work the same as before, but we can now configure FastTrack and get 300 mbps of Internet speed with about 40% of CPU (in my case).

Notes:
Some configurations use a filter in the bridge to avoid the TV multicast traffic go to the wlans (or other interfaces in which you don’t want this constant traffic). This is not desirable as it is very CPU consuming and it is prone to TV traffic errors (TV pixelation).
For this purpose I use the switch chip features which makes this more reliable, easy to configure and consumes not CPU at all. This is what I do:
/interface ethernet switch rule
add src-address=172.0.0.0/8 dst-address=239.0.0.0/8 new-dst-ports=<<nombre_del_puerto_del_deco>> ports=<<nombre_del_puerto_de_la_ONT_bridge>> switch=switch1
/interface ethernet switch port set <<numero_de_puerto_del_deco>> vlan-header=always-strip

Where:
<<nombre_del_puerto_del_deco>>: name port of the Mikrotik router you have you TV decoder connected to (eth3-Decoder in my case)
<<nombre_del_puerto_de_la_ONT>>: name port of the Mikrotik router you have the ONT connected to (eth1-ONT-Bridge in my case)
<<numero_de_puerto_del_deco>>: port number of the Mikrotik router you have the TV decoder connected to (3 in my case)

The only requirement is that de TV decoder is connected to a port on the same switch as eth1 (usually 3, 4 or 5).

With this configuration I have done a test: While simultaneously “watching” 3 hd channels and making two VoIP calls, I made a speed test and got the usual 306+ mbps with 40% of CPU usage in a RB2011 Mikrotik router. That made a total of around 340 mbps go smooth, with no TV pixilation or choppy VoIP.

After a few months using this configuration I have had 0 problems so I encourage you to use it. Not only because you will get the 300 mbps Internet speed (regadrless of the number of channels you are watching) but more important because you will not overload the Mikrotik CPU which leads to packets loss.

If you need more information, you can find it in the adslzone forum thread (in Spanish, whre I first posted this solution) or ask here. I am Spanish so I prefer the first one.

CIAO

Edited: changed URL at the top to make it work

Thank you so much!!!
I'm Spanish, so no problem at all following that link. Anyway you also clarified it here for English readers.

I'll have to try if I can follow these steps with my ONT (one of the first one Movistar deployed), the white one.

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Notes:
Some configurations use a filter in the bridge to avoid the TV multicast traffic go to the wlans (or other interfaces in which you don’t want this constant traffic). This is not desirable as it is very CPU consuming and it is prone to TV traffic errors (TV pixelation).
For this purpose I use the switch chip features which makes this more reliable, easy to configure and consumes not CPU at all. This is what I do:
/interface ethernet switch rule
add src-address=172.0.0.0/8 dst-address=239.0.0.0/8 new-dst-ports=<<nombre_del_puerto_del_deco>> ports=<<nombre_del_puerto_de_la_ONT_bridge>> switch=switch1
/interface ethernet switch port set <<numero_de_puerto_del_deco>> vlan-header=always-strip

Where:
<<nombre_del_puerto_del_deco>>: name port of the Mikrotik router you have you TV decoder connected to (eth3-Decoder in my case)
<<nombre_del_puerto_de_la_ONT>>: name port of the Mikrotik router you have the ONT connected to (eth1-ONT-Bridge in my case)
<<numero_de_puerto_del_deco>>: port number of the Mikrotik router you have the TV decoder connected to (3 in my case)
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If you don't want to bother with the configuration change on the ONT, you can just try the above trick to filter the TV multicast more efficiently. This can sometimes reduce the CPU load, so it can be dedicated to increase the Internet speed. And most important, you will get rid of TV pixelation caused bythe CPU overload because the TV traffic will now not even go through the CPU, so it doesn't matter if it is overloaded or not.

So first you can try this "multicast filter trick" that is very easy to setup and do some tests before deciding if the ONT configuration change is worth it.

http://routerboard.com/RB951G-2HnD

You're welcome.

And FYI Mikrotik routers are primarily for enterprise users.

Yeah, true enterprise. That's why we see 1000 bugs every new version. I mean in every version atleast 1 major stuff is broken. Come on.... Mikrotik is a cheap alternative to a true enterprise stuff. That's all. I can start by pointing at CCR's.... reboot, factory defaults, port flapping,... it's been more then a year that this device was in my closet because IT WAS UNUSABLE in enterprise enviroment.

EDIT:

I wouldn't have writtent anything if it weren't for such "smart" comments.

I'm will aware of that. But then as an example, Cisco is not much better (before 6.30, which was a bad release, though better than 6.31).
Enterprise means you test all the features you will use thoroughly before you deploy anything. My experience with Cisco has also been that you have to choose your software release carefully.

That aside, the features and interface make Mikrotik an enterprise product.

That aside, the features and interface make Mikrotik an enterprise product.

That's like saying, a Mercedes with a flat tire and broken window is ready for racing. On paper yes, real life = no.

Problem with the proposed solution is we will be doing double NAT... a no-no.

The best route would be using ppp ip-extensions if the ONT supports it, but it doesn't seem to be the case.

Second best option would be using ppp ip-extensions if the Movistar router supports it; old routers (comtrend) supported it; new (Mitrastar) doesn't seem to support it.

1. Problem with the proposed solution is we will be doing double NAT... a no-no.

2. The best route would be using ppp ip-extensions if the ONT supports it, but it doesn't seem to be the case.

3. Second best option would be using ppp ip-extensions if the Movistar router supports it; old routers (comtrend) supported it; new (Mitrastar) doesn't seem to support it.

1. As I said, yes, this would be a double nat configuration. But that is usually not a problem, depending of what you need to do.
2. I totally agree with you. But My ONT (HG8240) does not support it.
3. I totally agree with you here too. I have the Comtrend router, which supports "IP Extension" but I don't want to add it to my network (it is turned off... in the drawer). I prefer the double nat solution, which is not a problem in my configuration. This way I have everithing running smoothly with only ONT + Mikrotik... and I can keep the Comtrend router turned off.

could you post your config.rsc you are using on this testing, I would like to try with a RB2011
regards

could you post your config.rsc you are using on this testing, I would like to try with a RB2011
regards

Who... me?

My config is very long and full of stuff... I will soon prepare a config you will be able to download to test this setup (ONT as a router)

ROS 6.35rc12 includes support for FastTrack over pppoe. I have tried it with my RB2011 and now it reaches 300 mbps with the cpu at about 45%. I am using Movistar pppoe.

Ooppss *) pppoe-client - implemented fastpath support.... ????
it works over RB2011 but it does NOT work over RB3011.

Same fiber connection (300/30 Mbits) and RouterOS configuration testing RB2011 and RB3011, with these results:
- RB2011...6.34.2 - CPU usage 100% (298 Mits)
- RB2011...6.35rc12 - CPU usage between 32-38% (305 Mbits)
- RB3011...6.35rc11 and sooner - CPU usage TOTAL: 45%, ONE CPU 80-90%, the OTHER CPU 2-3% (305 Mbits)
- RB3011...6.35rc12 - CPU usage TOTAL: 45%, ONE CPU 80-90%, the OTHER CPU 2-3% (305 Mbits)

Symthom: FP RX counter for PPOE client conection is always zero in RB3011 (not for FP TX...)

Yes, this post is duplicated...just to avoid people going on with RB3011 until..polished?

Tok tok

I was suffering the very same problem that is described in this thread with Movistar in Spain. My 951G-2HnD was unable to get over 200 Mbps, due to the CPU being exhausted. After applying fasttrack it is now reaching 312 Mbps downstream AND upstream without any CPU overusage.

I would like to thank the Mikrotik team for the great work they have done bringing FastTrack to the pppoe client.