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looking for the best wifi router (ISP)

Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:15 pm

Hi, can someone point me at the best Wireless home router setup?


We plan to give 100/100 mbps internet connection to our customers.
We want 5 and 2.4 band (5g 3 chains are not important since almost mobile device are 2 chains max)
all ports 1gb
Poe ports
Router OS
We need a good wifi coverage, not important to reach full speed at -80. But yes if we are close to the router.
It can be combo, ex : poe router 1gb + wifi radio such as wap ac


We tried :

Wap AC and RB952Ui-5ac2nD, but the wifi speed is very horrible. Never more than 50-60 mbps on a clean 5 ac channel with -55db The wan capable of 125mbps.



Any product suggestion ?
 
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Re: looking for the best wifi router (ISP)

Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:00 pm

Don't think you'll ever see the (real world) speeds you want on point to multi-point connections...

Definitely no where near those speeds with a -80 signal.
 
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Re: looking for the best wifi router (ISP)

Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:56 pm

Don't think you'll ever see the (real world) speeds you want on point to multi-point connections...

Definitely no where near those speeds with a -80 signal.

@ -60 I can certainly reach up to 100mbps. If you read my previous post : I said that is not important to reach this speed at -80. We consider that -80 is too far from the router.

But at a closer range and with -60, I should reach decent speed. Other ac router can do. I can't believe mikrotik are not able too.
 
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Re: looking for the best wifi router (ISP)

Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:22 am

wAP AC and RB952Ui-5ac2nD, but the wifi speed is very horrible. Never more than 50-60 mbps on a clean 5 ac channel with -55db The wan capable of 125mbps.
See here.
 
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Re: looking for the best wifi router (ISP)

Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:40 am

wAP AC and RB952Ui-5ac2nD, but the wifi speed is very horrible. Never more than 50-60 mbps on a clean 5 ac channel with -55db The wan capable of 125mbps.
See here.
hAP AC & wAP AC are the best! I can do over 150Mbps on my cell phone. Many times poor results are poor channel selection or channel widths. The receive sensitivity and antenna gain make the hAP & wAP AC a winner for me. Now that being said the " AC lite" offerings suck horribly. I get that they are budget but I would not even offer one to my mother in law.

I want receive sensitivity and antenna gain. Function matters a whole lot more vs cuteness.
 
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Re: looking for the best wifi router (ISP)

Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:18 am

wAP AC and RB952Ui-5ac2nD, but the wifi speed is very horrible. Never more than 50-60 mbps on a clean 5 ac channel with -55db The wan capable of 125mbps.
See here.
hAP AC & wAP AC are the best! I can do over 150Mbps on my cell phone,
Yes, and the OP is speaking about ISP services. 1) Outdoors, 2) multiple clients connected to the AP, 3) interference on spectrum... There's a huge difference to having an AP indoors with 1 or 2 devices connecting to it, vs. outdoors and having multiple diverse clients at distance connecting to it.

I remain by what I said before... Not going to happen in an "ISP" environment.
 
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Re: looking for the best wifi router (ISP)

Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:46 am

wAP AC and RB952Ui-5ac2nD, but the wifi speed is very horrible. Never more than 50-60 mbps on a clean 5 ac channel with -55db The wan capable of 125mbps.
See here.
hAP AC & wAP AC are the best! I can do over 150Mbps on my cell phone,
Yes, and the OP is speaking about ISP services. 1) Outdoors, 2) multiple clients connected to the AP, 3) interference on spectrum... There's a huge difference to having an AP indoors with 1 or 2 devices connecting to it, vs. outdoors and having multiple diverse clients at distance connecting to it.

I remain by what I said before... Not going to happen in an "ISP" environment.

So I am reading it like what is a good router for my customers.

If he is starting a WISP he will soon get a realistic expectation of customer speeds , TDMA, and half duplex TCP behavior and the why did I start a WISP moment ;)
 
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Re: looking for the best wifi router (ISP)

Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:35 pm

sorry for this big delay!


Yes I mean INDOOR router. All the structure and wireless network is made. We can test 100mbps+ to the CPE antenna, and now we want to keep this speed at home for a descent signal.
 
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Re: looking for the best wifi router (ISP)

Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:26 am

What cpe antennas are you using to get that kind of throughput ?
 
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Re: looking for the best wifi router (ISP)

Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:38 pm

backhaul are airfiber (ubiquiti)

AP are airprism + hor 30deg 18dbi (rf element)

CPE are litebeam AC or Powerbeam AC

20mhz width, but we only install client in 5km far from the AP to keep 8x modulation and Good CINR.