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mfrabbibd
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Need help for that configuration..

Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:06 am

Hi, Dear Mikrotik guys, I need to implement this setup. Please guide me the right solutions. I'm getteing internet from CCR 1009 Series Router's (ether2)Lan Port.
It's a hotspot server. Ether2 is connected to a 24port switch. I also have 4 RB951Ui2Hnd all connected to the switch. all I want a Single SSID will be broadcast for my client from those 4 RB 951Ui2Hnd.
Whenever my client search for wifi network they will get a single SSID & they can roam around the 4 RB 951Ui2Hnd without facing any problem.
Is it possible? Please help me providing the 4 RB 951Ui2Hnd's configuration.
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Re: Need help for that configuration..

Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:17 am

Anyone???


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Re: Need help for that configuration..

Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:30 am

hi mikrotik man
yeah this is posible right now with a beautiful feature that called WDS on wireless
you connect 4 APs together and replicate with each other and you see one ssid actully right now
or you can use a capsman feature on routeros
there are two way ,depend on you which way you like do
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Re: Need help for that configuration..

Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:51 am

Hi.

this should not be a problem. You either configure the same SSID on all four RB951Ui2Hnds, or you configure CAPsMAN on the CCR and make the four RB951Ui2Hnd CAPsMAN-Clients. See https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:CAPsMAN for details.

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Re: Need help for that configuration..

Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:32 pm

hi mikrotik man
yeah this is posible right now with a beautiful feature that called WDS on wireless
you connect 4 APs together and replicate with each other and you see one ssid actully right now
or you can use a capsman feature on routeros
there are two way ,depend on you which way you like do
good luck
Hi Friend, I want to connect all the ap through Ethernet cable with the switch. So why WDS!


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Re: Need help for that configuration..

Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:49 pm

hi mikrotik man
yeah this is posible right now with a beautiful feature that called WDS on wireless
you connect 4 APs together and replicate with each other and you see one ssid actully right now
or you can use a capsman feature on routeros
there are two way ,depend on you which way you like do
good luck
Hi Friend, I want to connect all the ap through Ethernet cable with the switch. So why WDS!


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wds gives you a mobility connection , wireless cloud , stability user up time in all area of wireless network

if you dont want play with WDS you can set similar config in each access point and user seeing one ssid
 
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Re: Need help for that configuration..

Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:54 pm

hi mikrotik man
yeah this is posible right now with a beautiful feature that called WDS on wireless
you connect 4 APs together and replicate with each other and you see one ssid actully right now
or you can use a capsman feature on routeros
there are two way ,depend on you which way you like do
good luck
Hi Friend, I want to connect all the ap through Ethernet cable with the switch. So why WDS!


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wds gives you a mobility connection , wireless cloud , stability user up time in all area of wireless network

if you dont want play with WDS you can set similar config in each access point and user seeing one ssid
So according to your concept, I should not connect all ap’s through lan cable to the switch accept one ap right? If other three ap’s connected through wireless with each other those should be in line of sight for getting better performance right!


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Re: Need help for that configuration..

Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:03 pm

hi mikrotik man
yeah this is posible right now with a beautiful feature that called WDS on wireless
you connect 4 APs together and replicate with each other and you see one ssid actully right now
or you can use a capsman feature on routeros
there are two way ,depend on you which way you like do
good luck
Hi Friend, I want to connect all the ap through Ethernet cable with the switch. So why WDS!


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wds gives you a mobility connection , wireless cloud , stability user up time in all area of wireless network

if you dont want play with WDS you can set similar config in each access point and user seeing one ssid
So according to your concept, I should not connect all ap’s through lan cable to the switch accept one ap right? If other three ap’s connected through wireless with each other those should be in line of sight for getting better performance right!


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this name is WDS
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and second way if you want each ap connected to switch via cable and had one ssid in all of network area you should have similar config in each ap
 
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Re: Need help for that configuration..

Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:19 am

hi mikrotik man
yeah this is posible right now with a beautiful feature that called WDS on wireless
you connect 4 APs together and replicate with each other and you see one ssid actully right now
or you can use a capsman feature on routeros
there are two way ,depend on you which way you like do
good luck
Hi Friend, I want to connect all the ap through Ethernet cable with the switch. So why WDS!


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wds gives you a mobility connection , wireless cloud , stability user up time in all area of wireless network

if you dont want play with WDS you can set similar config in each access point and user seeing one ssid
So according to your concept, I should not connect all ap’s through lan cable to the switch accept one ap right? If other three ap’s connected through wireless with each other those should be in line of sight for getting better performance right!


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this name is WDS
====================
and second way if you want each ap connected to switch via cable and had one ssid in all of network area you should have similar config in each ap
If so there should be a huge interference & noise will be increase. Please correct me if I’m wrong.


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Re: Need help for that configuration..

Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:04 am


Hi Friend, I want to connect all the ap through Ethernet cable with the switch. So why WDS!


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wds gives you a mobility connection , wireless cloud , stability user up time in all area of wireless network

if you dont want play with WDS you can set similar config in each access point and user seeing one ssid
So according to your concept, I should not connect all ap’s through lan cable to the switch accept one ap right? If other three ap’s connected through wireless with each other those should be in line of sight for getting better performance right!


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this name is WDS
====================
and second way if you want each ap connected to switch via cable and had one ssid in all of network area you should have similar config in each ap
If so there should be a huge interference & noise will be increase. Please correct me if I’m wrong.


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look , you will not had interference or noise
you will have a cloud of wireless that work very good and excellent for users and you and have a same ssid in all of area and when users have movement from one point to another point of network they weren't disconnect this means you have a stable wireless network
but if you want have a cable connection with ap you must set as similar configuration ineach ap to have a same ssid in all of area and in this model of config users when had movement in you network and uuser connected to ap for example number 1 and user movement to area that ap for example number 2 is there , so user because of movement disconnect from ap number 1 and user must be connected to ap number 2 again
 
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Re: Need help for that configuration..

Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:05 pm

wds gives you a mobility connection , wireless cloud , stability user up time in all area of wireless network

if you dont want play with WDS you can set similar config in each access point and user seeing one ssid
So according to your concept, I should not connect all ap’s through lan cable to the switch accept one ap right? If other three ap’s connected through wireless with each other those should be in line of sight for getting better performance right!


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this name is WDS
====================
and second way if you want each ap connected to switch via cable and had one ssid in all of network area you should have similar config in each ap
If so there should be a huge interference & noise will be increase. Please correct me if I’m wrong.


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look , you will not had interference or noise
you will have a cloud of wireless that work very good and excellent for users and you and have a same ssid in all of area and when users have movement from one point to another point of network they weren't disconnect this means you have a stable wireless network
but if you want have a cable connection with ap you must set as similar configuration ineach ap to have a same ssid in all of area and in this model of config users when had movement in you network and uuser connected to ap for example number 1 and user movement to area that ap for example number 2 is there , so user because of movement disconnect from ap number 1 and user must be connected to ap number 2 again
So you are suggesting WDS system, ok but what will happened if ap’s are not in line of sight!


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Re: Need help for that configuration..

Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:56 pm

To my opinion, WDS system only makes sense if you have no possibility to connect the APs to the rest of the network using cables. The price you pay is that the AP connected using WDS has to receive a packet from the client and re-send it to the next AP in the chain, so the available bandwidth falls to 1/2.

So my solution would be to run CAPsMAN on one of the machines, at best the CCR1009, controlling all the wireless interfaces of all the RB951. You would end up having all configuration centralized at the CCR1009 as all you need to tell the 951s is where their CAPsMAN is and that they should let it control both their wireless interfaces.

As you have no other connection to the internet but via the CCR1009, there is no point in using things like local forwarding, so the 1009 will see all the wireless interfaces as its own ones.
 
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Re: Need help for that configuration..

Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:12 pm

To my opinion, WDS system only makes sense if you have no possibility to connect the APs to the rest of the network using cables. The price you pay is that the AP connected using WDS has to receive a packet from the client and re-send it to the next AP in the chain, so the available bandwidth falls to 1/2.

So my solution would be to run CAPsMAN on one of the machines, at best the CCR1009, controlling all the wireless interfaces of all the RB951. You would end up having all configuration centralized at the CCR1009 as all you need to tell the 951s is where their CAPsMAN is and that they should let it control both their wireless interfaces.

As you have no other connection to the internet but via the CCR1009, there is no point in using things like local forwarding, so the 1009 will see all the wireless interfaces as its own ones.
Dear Sindy, Thanks for your suggestions. Yes I’m also thinking of it. My all AP’s are connected directly through Ethernet cable with the 24port Switch. Actually I didn’t practice CAPsMAN before so no idea how it works. Can you please give me some suggestions or configuration samples regarding CAPsMAN? All I want only a single SSID will be found whenever my client search for WiFi network. Another thing does CAPsMAN works with Hotspot Server which is on my CCR?
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Re: Need help for that configuration..

Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:02 pm

Yes I’m also thinking of it. My all AP’s are connected directly through Ethernet cable with the 24port Switch. Actually I didn’t practice CAPsMAN before so no idea how it works. Can you please give me some suggestions or configuration samples regarding CAPsMAN? All I want only a single SSID will be found whenever my client search for WiFi network. Another thing does CAPsMAN works with Hotspot Server which is on my CCR?
Regards.
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CAPsMAN and Hotspot are different layers so yes, it will work.
Make sure that all the APs have IP address from the same subnet like the CCR does (use static addressing or DHCP server on CCR and DHCP clients on CAPs, whatever you prefer). This will be your "management subnet".

On the CAPsMAN, do the following:
create a bridge dedicated for hotspot clients, with its own local IP address of the CCR, DHCP server, pool, and DHCP "network", and give it some name - I refer to it below as "the_bridge_for_hotspot_clients". This will be the subnet for the wireless clients. It is not mandatory to separate the management subnet from the client one but it is a good practice.

Then configure the CAPsMAN:
/caps-man security
add authentication-types=wpa2-psk encryption=aes-ccm group-encryption=aes-ccm name=security_profile_1 passphrase=your_passphrase
/caps-man configuration
add country=your_country_name datapath.bridge=the_bridge_for_hotspot_clients mode=ap name=the_only security=security_profile_1 ssid=your_SSID
/caps-man manager
set enabled=yes
At the CAPs, do the following (one CAP at a time):
/interface wireless cap
set caps-man-addresses=10.0.0.1 enabled=yes interfaces=wlan1,wlan2
where the 10.0.0.1 is the actual IP address of the CAPsMAN in the interconnect subnet and "wan1,wan2" is the list of wireless interfaces of the CAP which should be controlled by the CAPsMAN.

After configuring the first CAP, look at the CAPsMAN, you should see all interfaces of that CAP in the "CAP interfaces" list. Edit the interface - give it a name, set its configuration to "the_only", and configure the radio frequency, channel configuration, modulation scheme etc.

One of few drawbacks of CAPsMAN is that the frequency has to be entered by hand rather than chosen from a fixed list so use the "frequency" drop-down menu in the wireless configuration on the CAP to learn the list of available frequencies in the band.

When done with one CAP, activate the following one etc.