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RouterBOARD 133 freezes

Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:46 pm

I have a RouterBOARD 133 with RouterOS 2.9.42, configured as a transparent traffic shaper (on LAN, no Wifi), shaping a 10MB line, about 200 users, CPU load about 20% with some spikes up to 40%.
The RB freezes every couple of minutes, I had to set the Watchdog to ping (to the gateway), then it reboots after the freeze, but this is no real solution.
The log shows only: "watchdog cannot ping address X.X.X.X, rebooting"
What could be the problem?
- too much traffic
- too many users
the CPU load seems to be OK

P.S. The 10MB line and 200 users is a stress test, the RB is planned for a 1MB line, 20-30 users, but will it be stable?
 
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Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:24 pm

whats the power supply?
 
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Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:50 pm

18V 1,33A 24W
 
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Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:23 am

It could just be a bad board. Mikrotik is great and all but, some times you will get a bad board. But I have never got one. Knock on Wood! LOL

Then again it could be a bad config!!
 
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Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:36 am

Seems not to be a bad Board, I have tried a second one with the same result :-(
I have also tried the RB on a small LAN - 256k line, 6 users, no freeze till now.
A bad config can cause freezes with higher loads? OK, I'll try to play with the config ...

I've instaled RouterOS demo licence on a PC, loaded the config from the RB and it work flawless, yet ...
So the config seems to be OK.
Shall I try the beta RouterOS on the RB or is it meaningless and the RBs are simply bad?
 
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Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:05 am

So, have you actually tried hooking a serial cable up to it when it is non-responsive on its ethernet port after turning the watchdog off to see what's going on?

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Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:28 am

So, have you actually tried hooking a serial cable up to it when it is non-responsive on its ethernet port after turning the watchdog off to see what's going on?

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I didn't, it's a good idea :-) thanks
Now I have a working serial cable, what should I look for, when the RB freezes?
 
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Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:09 pm

I tried the serial console (Watchdog ping disabled), when the RB freezes (after cca 30 min of uptime), the ethernet interfaces (/interface ethernet monitor) have no link and autonegotiation is disabled, the rest of the RB seems to work normally, nothing in the log.
After a couple of minutes the link is back, autonegotiation still disabled, speed is down from 100MB to 10 MB, network connection to the RB not working.
I rebooted the RB via the serial console, it took cca 5 minutes to the next freeze. This time also the serial console was frozen, after cca one hour the console was "unfrozen", the rest was the same, nothing in the log, no network connection.
Maybe there is some more detailed log, where I can figure out, what is happening with the RB?
 
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I would be tempted to watch the output of the power supply (multimeter), or swap it out.
There is a chance that could be faulty :)

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Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:13 pm

I had this same problem and it was traced down to the cat5 being pinched.

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Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:23 pm

I've tried 2 different power supplies, no (significant) voltage drop on load.
I've also tried to connect the RB between two PC and made a 100% RB CPU load by file copying - the RB was stable, so I don't think it is a power supply problem.
I've also tried several CAT5E cables and the RB still freezes ...
 
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:42 pm

Is there a switch in the system config?

Try another port or another switch..

Switch ports do go bad..

Craig
 
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Same Problem, but on an RB112

Wed May 02, 2007 4:08 am

Sounds like the problem I'm facing on a link using RB112 boards. Mine are at a remote site, so I cannot see the LEDs.

After anywhere from minutes to hours, the RB appears to stop listening on eth1 and will not respond to pings. Does not appear to be too much correlated to activity on the wlan1 port or the eth1 port.

Power 13vdc, 1A regulated) is supplied via the coaxial input, not PoE. Power appears clean and reliable. Seems that "sometimes" it spontaneously recovers after an indefinite period, but on the other hand I've had to call someone to cycle power.

RB eth1 is 192.168.1.26 on a local subnet 192.168.1.0/24, there's a Linksys WRT54G AP/router/gateway at 192.168.1.1, and my remote access computer is via ethernet at 192.168.1.80. I surf in via ultraVNC to that machine, and am generally able to control the RB remotely. The RB talks via WDS to an even more remote 192.168.2.0/24 subnet.

No serial access from my location, will have to travel 40 miles to get to the DB9, which may be the next thing I have to do...

Cheers - Jon
 
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Wed May 02, 2007 1:22 pm

Is there a switch in the system config?

Try another port or another switch..

Switch ports do go bad..

Craig
There is a CISCO 2611 router connected to one interface and a 3Com 4924 switch to the other, I've also tried to connect ordinary hubs between the RB and the CISCO and the 3Com - no change.
 
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Thu May 03, 2007 8:48 pm

I have the same problem where one of my RB133 boards will randomly lockup. The only solution is a power cycle.

Although it crashes randomly, I can force it to crash by doing this:

http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=15070

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