MikroTik News June 2019 (Issue #89)

Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:55 pm

In this MikroTik newsletter:

* Introducing LtAP - a heavy-duty 4G (LTE) access point with GPS support
* wAP ac LTE - powerful and versatile dual-band wireless access point with LTE support
* LHG 60G - a high speed 60 GHz CPE point-to-multipoint unit, perfect solution for crowded wireless spectrum
* Gigabit Passive Ethernet Repeater (GPeR) - best way to extend your Ethernet network in the trickiest spots
* New MikroTik LoRa products- Internet of things has never been so affordable
* WiFi on Mount Everest
* MikroTik goes to space
* Upcoming MUM events in 2019

Download newsletter here:
https://download2.mikrotik.com/news/news_89.pdf

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mada3k · Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:17 pm

LtAP looks really promising but WHY only 16MB of flash? Is a couple dollars really worth sacrificing future compatibility?

sutrus · Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:40 pm

16Mb Flash is maximum for QCA9531 Qualcomm CPU.

Lupin · Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:37 pm

* New MikroTik LoRa products- Internet of things has never been so affordable

When will they be available for purchase?

Paternot · Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:19 pm

When did they move the Cristo Redentor statue from Rio de Janeiro to Santa Cruz de la Sierra, Bolivia?

Scratch head. Think about it. Take a look through window... nope, it's still there.

At page 7 - future MUMs - either the last picture or the last description is wrong. It says Santa Cruz de la Sierra, but this is a Rio de Janeiro picture!

Phaere · Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:53 pm

Still no CRS354 switches..
Announced more then year ago. Another RouterOS v7?

ErfanDL · Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:04 pm

Developing ROS7 is easier than sending mikrotik to space!!!!!!!

Sent from my C6833 using Tapatalk

Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:13 pm

Thank you very much for the interest about upcoming MikroTik products.
As it was announced during the MUMs, LoRa devices are planned at the end of this year.
The same applies for 48 ports switches.

R1CH · Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:55 pm

I'm a bit disappointed seeing only 2.4 GHz radios on products sold in 2019. In urban areas 2.4 GHz is unusable. The QCA9531 chipset is over five years old now, there really should not be new products coming to market based on it.

cyon · Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:04 pm

Still no CRS354 switches..
Announced more then year ago. Another RouterOS v7?

I'm waiting as well!

r00t · Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:17 pm

Nice. Now bring two GigE LAN ports to all 60GHz gear. WAP ltAC shows how it can be done.

kamillo · Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:59 pm

Not a first mistake like this, you should claim your free MUM ticket.
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=135236&p=666260&hi ... et#p666260

Paternot · Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:14 am

Not a first mistake like this, you should claim your free MUM ticket.
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=135236&p=666260&hi ... et#p666260

LOL
True enough

lindagriffithh · Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:00 am

So is Wi-Fi already available on Everest?

Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:06 am

When did they move the Cristo Redentor statue from Rio de Janeiro to Santa Cruz de la Sierra, Bolivia?

Scratch head. Think about it. Take a look through window... nope, it's still there.

At page 7 - future MUMs - either the last picture or the last description is wrong. It says Santa Cruz de la Sierra, but this is a Rio de Janeiro picture!

The picture is correct and is from Santa Cruz. There is no Christ statue in the image

Maybe look closer.

djdrastic · Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:32 am

We are heading towards 2020 and we still don't have any information about the CRS354

The big issue I see for some of those switches by the time they are released QSFP might be a dead standard more or less.
Starting to get hard to find modules , as everybody and their mother has now focused on getting into the QSFP28 and SFP28 space.

Waiting to see what Mikrotik have in store for the future to replace the CCR series as well.

Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:50 pm

The big issue I see for some of those switches by the time they are released QSFP might be a dead standard more or less.
Starting to get hard to find modules , as everybody and their mother has now focused on getting into the QSFP28 and SFP28 space.

I 100% agree

hooyao · Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:57 pm

That's on Nepal side, on the China side, there are 4G full bar signals.

Paternot · Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:50 pm

When did they move the Cristo Redentor statue from Rio de Janeiro to Santa Cruz de la Sierra, Bolivia?

Scratch head. Think about it. Take a look through window... nope, it's still there.

At page 7 - future MUMs - either the last picture or the last description is wrong. It says Santa Cruz de la Sierra, but this is a Rio de Janeiro picture!
The picture is correct and is from Santa Cruz. There is no Christ statue in the image Maybe look closer.

It doesn't have it now.

pe1chl · Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:57 pm

So is Wi-Fi already available on Everest?

It is required for Google Traffic to show the traffic situation... which is important when you do not want to end up in a traffic jam.

alnet · Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:13 pm

We are heading towards 2020 and we still don't have any information about the CRS354

The big issue I see for some of those switches by the time they are released QSFP might be a dead standard more or less.
Starting to get hard to find modules , as everybody and their mother has now focused on getting into the QSFP28 and SFP28 space.

Waiting to see what Mikrotik have in store for the future to replace the CCR series as well.

Ok, it's amazing that the CCR1072 is still the biggest Hard, I'm a fan of Mikrotik, but in the ISP where I work, we are with a troughput of almost 20Gb, reaching almost saturate some 10Gb interfaces and with a CPU that peeks already 50% (it's a BGP core) and I have nothing to offer superador (I do not evaluate putting x86 and dealing with generic hard). They want to migrate brand and I still resist but I need new CCR !!!! Minimum of 10 SFP + and 2/4 SFPQ-QSFP28 equipment to have uplink between 40 and 100Gb. It would be a pity if they did not reach the market's needs in time, because the core once they are migrated is expensive to make changes.

I trust Mikrotik. I do not lose hope.

djdrastic · Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:33 pm

We are heading towards 2020 and we still don't have any information about the CRS354

The big issue I see for some of those switches by the time they are released QSFP might be a dead standard more or less.
Starting to get hard to find modules , as everybody and their mother has now focused on getting into the QSFP28 and SFP28 space.

Waiting to see what Mikrotik have in store for the future to replace the CCR series as well.
Ok, it's amazing that the CCR1072 is still the biggest Hard, I'm a fan of Mikrotik, but in the ISP where I work, we are with a troughput of almost 20Gb, reaching almost saturate some 10Gb interfaces and with a CPU that peeks already 50% (it's a BGP core) and I have nothing to offer superador (I do not evaluate putting x86 and dealing with generic hard). They want to migrate brand and I still resist but I need new CCR !!!! Minimum of 10 SFP + and 2/4 SFPQ-QSFP28 equipment to have uplink between 40 and 100Gb. It would be a pity if they did not reach the market's needs in time, because the core once they are migrated is expensive to make changes.

I trust Mikrotik. I do not lose hope.

I'm not that hopeful tbh . Our 1036/1072's we've mostly replaced with ER-8-XG's and ONIE switches.
At the end of the day we have to solve problems as Net Engineers.

krafg · Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:38 pm

The best news of the year. Thanks a lot MikroTik.

Regards.

DSK · Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:16 pm

When should we expect the 16 port reverse PoE switches?

r00t · Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:52 pm

16Mb Flash is maximum for QCA9531 Qualcomm CPU.

This really sucks.
Maybe look at the possibility of having microSD slot or moving ROS system partition to USB stick (and having USB port on the device itself in a first place...)?

Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:39 am

Nice seeing a picture of a Mikrotik Metal on the lifting mechanism of SpaceX Falcon rocket

- Probably not using nv2 because the cell size/distance will get bigger/farther as a Falcon rocket lifts off and climbs up … (unless the nv2 cell size is preconfigured for maximum distance that will be used) ((( if it were me - I would use nv2 (large cell size) & super channel
- Probably using Super Channel
- Probably using a watchdog and also a watchdog script
- Probably using netwatch to keep the arp table populated
- Possibly the CPU might be running a tad bit slower than factory default (to increase reliability)
- Not MiMo - thus more power per polarity and greater receive sensitivity to pluck out a signal from the noise
- Possible 5 or 10 MHz channel width setting for the clearest signal possible in high noise environments
- And best of all , if there is a total melt-down where there is a reset to defaults, there is still a mac-telnet available to recover a system.

I like

I guess I should of read more prior to posting - I think the Mikrotik is may be mounted on a crane - not a rocket ...

Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:28 am

Lifting mechanism, yes

Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:57 pm

Lifting mechanism, yes

My bad for not reading the complete article - lol
However - ya got to admit , it would of been totally cool if the Mikrotik Metal was on a rocket

North Idaho Tom Jones

Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:59 pm

Lifting mechanism, yes
My bad for not reading the complete article - lol
However - ya got to admit , it would of been totally cool if the Mikrotik Metal was on a rocket
Which brings up an interesting question - what is the maximum possible distance that could be achieved ???

North Idaho Tom Jones

marekm · Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:10 pm

Could the new LtAP be used as GPS-based stratum-1 NTP server? I know previous devices didn't support 1PPS but perhaps you did route that one additional signal from the GPS module to CPU GPIO this time? Or do we still have to use a Raspberry Pi for that?

hova888 · Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:06 am

16Mb Flash is maximum for QCA9531 Qualcomm CPU.
This really sucks.
Maybe look at the possibility of having microSD slot or moving ROS system partition to USB stick (and having USB port on the device itself in a first place...)?

+1

Netspeed · Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:31 pm

* New MikroTik LoRa products- Internet of things has never been so affordable
When will they be available for purchase?

Yes this is the second press release these have appeared in isn't it?
and still nothing available yet.

muetzekoeln · Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:13 am

Could the new LtAP be used as GPS-based stratum-1 NTP server? I know previous devices didn't support 1PPS but perhaps you did route that one additional signal from the GPS module to CPU GPIO this time? Or do we still have to use a Raspberry Pi for that?

+1

I like this idea. Stratum 1 server by Miktrotik, cheap to buy. At least for the time waiting for IEEE1588:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=45934&p=709727&hilit=ntp#p709727

Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:08 am

Could the new LtAP be used as GPS-based stratum-1 NTP server?

I really hope so!

Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:12 am

Not with the current NTP server implementation, although LtAP and LtAP mini hardware do support it. So, I hate to say it, but theoretically only will be possible to work on Stratum in v7

gutekpl · Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:37 pm

wAP ac LTE - powerful and versatile dual-band wireless access point with LTE support

My original plans was to put standard wAP AC outside home as garden access point. Can wAP ac LTE be configured to act both as garden AP and LTE backup ISP when main ISP (fibre coming to hap ac2 via media converter) will be dead?

pe1chl · Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:51 pm

Can wAP ac LTE be configured to act both as garden AP and LTE backup ISP when main ISP (fibre coming to hap ac2 via media converter) will be dead?

The nice thing about MikroTik devices is that all of them run the same software so all of them can do such things.
You can "split" the functions (AP and LTE) and feed them to your home router over separate VLANs on the cable and then do anything you like w.r.t. failover.

asterisco · Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:35 pm

In this MikroTik newsletter:

* New MikroTik LoRa products- Internet of things has never been so affordable

Hi,
really interesting!!
I wonder this is v1 semtech reference design. Any chance to move to v2 which includes TDoA geolocation (and gps for precise timing)
Regards
Antonio

dlausch · Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:43 pm

* New MikroTik LoRa products- Internet of things has never been so affordable

Are there further release dates known yet?

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