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One Way Satellite

Sat Sep 08, 2007 7:58 pm

Dear All,

I have 3 NIC on MT:

firts NIC use for One Way Satellite [Downstream Only], IP 69.88.3.105/29, DNS 168.215.210.50 from 1st ISP.

Second NIC for Upstream, IP 192.168.40.22/30 from 2nd ISP that have upstream and downstream.

Third NIC for Local Network, IP 192.168.100.6/30

How to route the local network using first NIC for download and Up load using the second NIC?

Thank you
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Re: One Way Satellite

Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:05 am

I only have limited knowledge of one way Satellite, but my understanding was you had to use a dialup back channel direct to the Satellite ISP in order to initiate the download over the Satellite link? I can't see any way of doing this over a standard two way connection unless the Satellite ISP will support the back channel over a VPN or PPPoE link.

I suggest you talk to the technical guys at the Satellite ISP, until we know whether it requires a dialup or will support a VPN/PPPoE connection there's no way to advise on how to configure the MT router.

Who is the one way Satellite ISP? There might be something on their website to get us further down the road.
 
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Re: One Way Satellite

Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:25 am

Sir,

I am using two ISP as bellow:

1. easyway for satellite downlink using agila2, url ://www.easyway.web.id
2. Lintasarta for Wireless BWA uplink and downlink, url://www.lintasarta.net

DVB Box from Novra technology type novra s75, url://www.novra.com

Thank for your reply.

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Re: One Way Satellite

Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:33 pm

The EasyWeb site indicates they support a VPN connection for the back channel.

To configure the MT router, connect using Winbox, go to the PPP section and create a PPTP Client.

In the General tab, give the connection a suitable name, e.g. Satellite.

In the Dial Out tab, enter the server hostname, vpn1.argonhost.com, insert your username and password in the appropriate boxes. I suspect that you need to change the profile to default, i.e. no encryption. Try it with no encryption first, you can always test the encrypted mode later if you need it. Check (tick) the "Add default route" checkbox.

Leave your existing default route in place for the BWA connection, but give it a higher cost, that way if the VPN connection fails you at least still have some service via the BWA connection.

If you have any problem connecting the PPTP session, go into the MT log file set up and add debugging for PPTP.

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Re: One Way Satellite

Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:18 pm

You can't have one interface downloading only and the other uploading only. Your customers would have problems with MSN and https to name a few. This is because the packets originating from one ISP would have to return to that same ISP and not the second.
 
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Re: One Way Satellite

Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:02 pm

Stuntshell,

Read the solution before you comment. Whilst the underlying BWA connection is to a different ISP, the effective connection is via a VPN tunnel to the Satellite ISP.

This is documented on the Satellite ISP's website as a solution for a single PC which acts as a Gateway using Microsoft's Internet Sharing mechanism. I see no reason why the same VPN set up shouldn't work with the MT router, functionally it's doing the same job.

The Satellite ISP must have a dynamic routing mechanism which detects the user's sending address from the VPN login and returns the packets to the static IP address linked with the login. It may well be necessary for the MT router to be configured to do NAT. PCs downstream of the MT router need to be "hidden" behind NAT as the Satellite ISP won't know how to route to these private IP addresses.
 
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Re: One Way Satellite

Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:44 pm

Hey guys,

This is not so hard configuration, though I had a link like that. Downlink from DVB (sat) and uplink from another ISP, and by the way I have configured it in linux not with the MT OS cause I haven't had any MT OS that time. I'll send the whole configuration within 24 hours cause it is not in my head right now :) , one thing I can tell that the ISP from which you want to use the uplink they should route your downlink IP address in their router.

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Re: One Way Satellite

Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:18 pm

effendi:
where are your location ?
perhaps i can solve it quick by coming to your place.

8)

just mail me: riomartin et bloomasia dot com
 
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Re: One Way Satellite

Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:05 am

O cool we have a life saver here, nice to know that, so I don't have to put any thing now.

doing good t3rm.

Take Care
 
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Re: One Way Satellite

Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:25 am

O cool we have a life saver here, nice to know that, so I don't have to put any thing now.

doing good t3rm.

Take Care

Thats some good humor right there... :lol:
 
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Re: One Way Satellite

Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:48 pm

That because we are coming from the same location, Indonesia ..
ha ha ha ha ..

hope i cant get lots of friend using Mikrotik.
So when i get troubles, i'm not alone .

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Re: One Way Satellite

Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:49 pm

hulk-bd:

Please put your things in here .. 8)
 
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Re: One Way Satellite

Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:37 pm

yes... hulk bd... put your thing here, waiting.... :D
 
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Re: One Way Satellite

Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:57 pm

hulk-bd:

Please put your things in here .. 8)
Ok see, this thread is beginning to get a bit "weird" ... :?

Lets just calm down for a minute ....
 
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Re: One Way Satellite

Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:58 pm

I'm sorry to be late,

I can't give you the whole configuration here but I can tell you how I have done it at my side few years ago. Ok first of all from one onway SAT (DVB) you only get few real IP (static) but you can't get any gateway address here right? I mean Effendi would not get any geteway address from his DVB provider, am I right effendi? cause from DVB you can only download but can't upload anything so there will be no gateway address from DVB. ok so from your 2nd ISP which you can do both (DL/UL) you will get a gateway address, the thing is like you have to route your downlink IP through your 2nd ISP which is giving the both way traffic. you have to tell them to route your DVB IP from their router if they don't route your DVB IP you can't use your downlink from the DVB. Am I clear here? This is the situation so do your math and configure your MT OS like that too.

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Re: One Way Satellite

Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:33 pm

Got your idea, but questions came up.
Would it be still working if the one way DVB is down, i meant automatically download goes thru the 2nd ISP's gateway , or do we have to tell the ISP to change the configuration?

and would i still be able to do downloading from the 2nd isp with these configuration?

last question would be, if the DVB provider only provides private ip, would that still works?
:D

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Re: One Way Satellite

Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:14 am

ok ya it's a good question, when your DVB SAT will be down then I don't think your 1st provider (Both way traffic provider) have to do anything at their end cause they already route their given IP (not your DVB provider IP) and the downlink from their end will run beside your uplink, but you have to configure your MT OS as when your DVB downlink will go down it(MT OS) will automatically switch to the 1st ISP downlink. And I don't think the DVB provider gives private IP cause you'll need a public IP address to route their downlink. I don't know am I make myself clear to you or not.

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Re: One Way Satellite

Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:38 pm

oAnd I don't think the DVB provider gives private IP cause you'll need a public IP address to route their downlink.
Unfortunately, i got a NATted IP address of 10.11.1.154 while gateway ip is 10.11.0.1
There's a real Public IP address though, but can the ISP 2 use it?
 
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Re: One Way Satellite

Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:31 pm

t3rm,

Hi.. I am in Pontianak, Kalimantan Barat

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Re: One Way Satellite

Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:34 pm

hulk-bd,

Thank you, all you are says is right!!!

:)
 
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Re: One Way Satellite

Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:36 pm

Dear Effendi, you are welcome. I'm really happy to make myself helpful to my friends here.

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