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DS3 cards

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 6:38 pm
by Hammy
I was looking around and saw that beginning 2.5, there was a driver problem with LMC DS3 cards. I am looking at the wanPCI-1T3, but I am open to any DS3 card. Have the driver problems been resolved?

LMC / SBE DS-3

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 9:59 pm
by csickles
I have one of the DS3 cards and V2.8xx sees it. and will "Start the card"
The card shows the correct LEDs when on "loopback" and in "open" mode .(IE a coax loop cable installed and clock set to internal)

I do not have a DS3 cir. to test data transfer at this time.
I asked for the driver to be reinstalled (had been removed) Jhon and the crew updated their drivers (SBE had not done it yet...) but the client that wanted DS-3 has not installed the service yet.

So I can say that the card is "SEEN" and seems to work but I can not swear to data transfer (Yet) (I may just buy another card and set them up in a "Null Cir. Config). I have a relationship and source for SBE / LMC product, so if the need is great enough I will do the nessisary testing and make the cards avail. at a low cost.

Craig

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:12 pm
by BelWave
Can you provide any additional information regarding the DS3 cards? I thought LMC was out of business? Is there a new company that makes a DS3 card? Is there an OC3 card available?

Will MikroTik confirm they support a DS3 card?

Thanks,

Brad

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:51 am
by cmit
I think the cards are continued by SBE, here the link to the DS3 PCI card:
http://www.sbei.net/pages/products/wanadapt1t3.htm

Hope that helps...

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:18 am
by BelWave
Yah, I found that page as well, but thank you for posting it.

Hey Craig,

Will you check with your SBE/LMC source and see what price they can come up with for these cards?

Thanks,

Brad Belton

SBE T3

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:48 pm
by csickles
Will Do..

Spoke with SBE today.

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:48 am
by csickles
I have spoken with SBE today.
I am waiting on pricing arangements.
I am also working on getting Eng. samples for Mikrotik to verify opperarions.

Having a rough number of people who want them would help me drive the cost down.

If you are interested in T3 cards please post a reply and provide a guess of how many you may use.

Thanks !!

Craig

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:29 am
by BelWave
I know of one or two ISPs aside from myself that are interested in these cards if they can be bought for a reasonable price. I know reasonable is a relative term, but let's see what SBE can do before we indicate what we see as reasonable. <grin>

I know I could use four pretty much immediately.

Thanks,

Brad

Re: Spoke with SBE today.

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:44 am
by jonbrewer
I have spoken with SBE today.
I am waiting on pricing arangements.
I am also working on getting Eng. samples for Mikrotik to verify opperarions.

Having a rough number of people who want them would help me drive the cost down.

If you are interested in T3 cards please post a reply and provide a guess of how many you may use.

Thanks !!

Craig
I am very interested in picking up two so I can use some inexpensive 38GHz DMR units that have DS3 interface (and 45mbps full-duplex throughput!). Price would have to be down around the 1k USD range to make it worth using the cards instead of external Ethernet to DS3 converters.

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:08 am
by Frank_833
Last week I tested one of these cards at the CO. Worked fine w/2.9beta7. Waiting for the fibre run to be finished to put in in production.

Paid $1900 for the card.

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:59 pm
by BelWave
$1900.00 ... ouch! Yes, the RAD DS3 to 10/100 convertors are half that.

Where did you buy the DS3 PCI cards? Were they the SBE brand?

Best,

Brad

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:01 pm
by Frank_833
Got the card at one of the SBE listed suppliers. Don't remeber which one, but looked around and all the prices seemed to be about the same.

$1900 aint cheap. But with a new P4 + MT license + 4 port ethernet card and the total is about $3500 for a DS3 Router + Firewall + Bandwidth manager.

Would have paid every bit of $3500 for a used CISCO that would have done nothing for us except provided the DS3 interface.

Our DS3 is scheduled to go in this week. Once it's in, I'll order a second card for a backup machine.

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:37 am
by BelWave
No question what you have built is a better value and far more powerful than even the 7200 series Cisco. I know first hand after removing a 7204VXR and installing a MikroTik P4 3.2GHz and DS3 card.

Tests showed that while under typical midday traffic load with similar firewall rules the MikroTik router produced 10mb more throughput than the Cisco with a NPE-400 engine. The MikroTik was also configured with a couple hundred Simple Queues, so it's fair to say the MikroTik was doing far more work than the Cisco and still outperformed the Cisco.

We have just installed a MikroTik with Intel GB fiber interfaces for another facility we just turned up. The box fly’s with PCI-X GB fiber cards and two Intel quad 1000MB PCI-X cards.

BTW, I still think $1900 is too much for the SBE DS3 card. I'm pretty sure I was quoted right at or just below $1500. Hit me offlist if you are interested in comparing reseller notes.

Best,

Brad