hello i made a setup of 4 different vlans which i need not to contact each other, added firewall rules, route rules, 2 different pppoe connections so 2 vlans get different public ip. so far ok but there is a problem. router cannot connect to internet itself to update clock and firmware. i have manually splitted routes to pppoe interfaces via route marks and everything works this way but the router itself cannot connect to internet (maybe cannot find default route but it doesnt work when i check to add default route to pppoe) if i ping to eg google from ping tool without defining a pppoe-out interface the ping times out but when i define one then pings normally. i tried to add an extra route to one wan interface without defining routing marks then the router connects to internet but everything else doesnt. how can i tell router to use one public interface for itself (without use the add default route option)???? or how can i grab and mark traffic from itself to add a new route with routing mark (not blank)???

chain=output is for traffic outgoing from the router itself. Try to mark in mangle and see if it helps.

yes already did that (marked chain output and added to route) although the counters begin to rise, again no internet and no internet from local interfaces. i will try to rebuild the whole configuration and return with results.