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devrim
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WDS Configuration

Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:41 am

Hi,
For a while i investigate WDS configuration. However i found some information that confused me..

Wikipedia have entry for WDS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_D ... ion_System

"Wireless throughput is cut approximately in half for each WDS repeating "hop", i.e. an AP that data flows through before hitting the wired network. This is because all transmissions use the same channel and radio and must be retransmitted to reach the wired LAN."

So i wonder that this limitation is also valid for Mikrotik ROS?
Could somebody share their knowledge with us?

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Re: WDS Configuration

Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:59 pm

So i wonder that this limitation is also valid for Mikrotik ROS?
Obviously. This is a phisical limitation, and there aren't way to substract from it.
 
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Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:19 pm

even if we use 2 Wireless card ??? 5g for WDS link , 2.4g for clients ??
 
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Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:48 pm

If 5GHz are connected to only one other point (Point-to-Point link), the bandwidth will not limited, becouse it is a PtP link!
 
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Bandwidth division

Tue Dec 05, 2006 5:12 am

What if mostly all of the APs see each other?
I have 30 APs running WDS at 5.8 GHz.
Only 2 of them reach reach the Internet "bouncing" in another AP. All of the others see directly the AP that routes to the Internet.
Do these AP interfere with each other, making worse the network, or bandwidth division occurs only when they "bounce"?

How many WDS APs can I add to the network? (I'm using RB532 y RB112)
Is it the same if I use dynamic or static WDS? (regarding performance)
 
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Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:13 am

thats why there is 2 WDS modes - dynamic and static.

in dynamic you see what peers can connect then you decide your network topology and set static wds according what you saw in dynamic mode, limiting to 3 wds links on one peer or so, (you should consider how many peers connect to each other depending on your needs)
 
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Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:41 pm

My central AP is connected with every client (still, clients are configured as ap-bridge in WDS mode), almost 20 clients in one radio!
Is this wrong?
I mean, is WDS designed for few connections?
How many?
 
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Fri Dec 22, 2006 8:49 am

Chofex,
All clients have WDS, in other words 20 WDS interface on the one AP ?
 
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Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:14 pm

as far as i know, than it is available traffic/<WDS count> so, there is nothing left :roll:

correct me if i am wrong
 
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Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:25 pm

its more directed towards if you have 20mbps from AP to one wds. Then from that wds to another wds/client you will only get 10Mbps, ie...hops. It doesn't mean if you have 10 wds connected to an AP then you will only get 2Mbps to each.

Of course keep in mind that if you have a 54Mbps connection for 10 devices theoretically you would get 5.4Mbps to each device(this is just connection speed not taking in consideration if you only get a 5Mb pipe..)
 
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Sun Dec 24, 2006 4:56 am

sergejs, that's correct. Right now I'm counting 13 WDS bridges working in my RB532 from one radio, and 3 more in the second radio. But I'm sure there are a few more clients, they've just powered off them!
Am I wrong in doing this?
How should I configure my network? I'm planning 40 clients per radio!

janisk, I didn't understand your comment. Please, explain yourself.

defek7, thanks, I had understood just what you told me, but I wasn't sure 'cause I'm getting too little bandwidth... and drops, that's what worries me most.
 
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Sun Dec 24, 2006 6:05 am

WiFi is half duplex, therefore to repeat you loose half your bandwidth. Otherwise use two radios.

Doesn't have anything to do with WDS specifically, they're just saying that repeating using WDS will demonstrate that behavior.

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