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Intel vPro with Mikrotik RouterOS

Sun Nov 19, 2006 6:15 pm

Hi guys,
I'm so excited with vPro to see if we can use it in Mikrotik platforms to
remotely control the Pc-based routers, this vPro is one cool thing for us
because it has chips and firmware at hardware level that can turn on or
even let you know if your routeros has gave such stupid message:

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and cannot run the network services... I hope routeros will also interact
with it in near future to send message to server like dude from mikrotik
to let the server know that operating system is failing... I think the intel
fellas has developed something for windows or perhaps linux.

but since Mikrotik is scrictly a confidential area that does not have API
and SDK package ready it is not possible for us to this...

if you can get hand on Intel vPro mainboard which first one is :
BOXDQ965GFEKR that supports vPro. just install RouterOS and let us know if it really works

in fact I am thinking about changing my whole PC-based network into
something like this.. and even if mikrotik does not stop being so close
I want to move out to something open source to allow flexibility.
 
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Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:03 pm

but since Mikrotik is scrictly a confidential area that does not have API
umm, wrong?
http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=11616

regarding vPro ... we will see what it is.
 
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Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:24 pm

but since Mikrotik is scrictly a confidential area that does not have API
umm, wrong?
http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=11616

regarding vPro ... we will see what it is.
I believe we've talked about this before.
API you're talking about is not allowing internal access
to compile a NPK package for mikrotik.

it will only allow to do some remote connection management like
winbox which won't help intel vPro or anything that is going on
inside the box...

I dont believe we can achieve C++ like compile by using Python...
it doesn't make sense to me...

Thanks for the reply
 
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Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:27 pm

this will never happen, or it will mean the end of routeros. if you want to make your own packaged, why exactly you need routeros at all?
 
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Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:37 pm

this will never happen, or it will mean the end of routeros. if you want to make your own packaged, why exactly you need routeros at all?
I give you an example...

why do you need to install software on windows? RouterOS is standing for Router Operating System (I assume)

Operating Systems needs softwares to run on them... one company alone may not be the provider of all software needs.

for instance, by doing so other third party company can develop driver for RouterOS, if we need a driver badly we can do it ourself.

if we need to make our own Hotspot package we can do it ourself.

if we need to interact Intel vPro with RouterOS we can do it ourself without waiting for Mikrotik to do it for us.

doesn't it save a lot of your cost and money?

why should it be the end of RouterOS? it is the start of evolution in router operating system platforms... you can take a bigger cut of router business big time when you have 10 major software developer company providing package for RouterOS

at the other hand they can interact their external package inside RouterOS...
 
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Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:41 pm

the most value is in our programs, drivers, support and the interface. if you take that away, and replace with your own packages and no support - what's the value of that? we will not give you support if you make some crazy app that crashes the OS.
 
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Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:59 pm

the most value is in our programs, drivers, support and the interface. if you take that away, and replace with your own packages and no support - what's the value of that? we will not give you support if you make some crazy app that crashes the OS.
of course microsoft for isntance won't give customer support or patch to fix Adobe Photoshop's caused crash...

that's one obvious thing. but is it microsoft that develope all drivers? or is it the vendor company?

is it not possible to find out from logs that which application and variable or method or function caused the crash? to report user to uninstall faulty package from the system...

it is basically dummy's idea that if photoshop crashes is because of the windows.

and we're not dealing here with basic users when we're talking about RouterOS...
 
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Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:23 pm

take away what i wrote and you have your basic linux.
 
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Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:55 am

I really like the simplicty of mikrotik, but I really would like support for more wireless cards...and this would be great thing then...
 
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Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:10 am

Why there is no Plug-ins or Add-ons for MT ROS ?
its the secret of success of other giant softwares like 3D-studio MAX , Adobe photoshop and Premiere .. etc .
 
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Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:48 am

your opinion is of great value to us, thank you all for suggestions. right now we do not have a plan to make something like that, but that might change someday.
 
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Re: Intel vPro with Mikrotik RouterOS

Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:44 pm

Dear all at Mikrotik and in the Community,

even since this post is a couple of years old, i am wondering wether 3rd party extensions would be possible as of today at all.
i fully understand the concerns of mikrotik to create huge reliability and support issues as long as every developer can just add some stuff to the router os and causes it to malfunction or crash. that would actually provide a bad market reputation since it will go back to mikrotik first and not to the 3rd party.

on the other hand, their might be a lot of niche solutions and add-ons that just does not make sense to mikrotik to develop into the standard. other people or niche markets would have a great benefit out of this 3rd party package and thus would vote vor mikrotik instead of any other solution since the routeros is the most sophisticated and powerfull platform i know and also most flexible in combination with any x86 and routerboard platform.

but think of the extraordinary success of the iPhone from apple. this success was not created by the device and the lifestly of apple alone. it was actually created from the business eco-system build with the appstore and the capability for everybody to develop add-ons and 3rd party applications with or without value. after only 2 years, more than 75.000 apps have been developed for the iphone, more than 1,8 billion downloads have been made and more than 750 million usd have been paid for those downloads by the users. however, apple is very strict in certify and reject applications that they don not like or would screw the users somehow.

would it not be great having such a capability and platform for the mikrotik platform as well?

i am not your marketing guy but i do think this will be a great opportunity for mikrotik to gain an even bigger market share in all different levels since the eco-system than is driving your business with it's own dynamics much faster and broader than any one single company would ever be able to. even apple.

what do you think?
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Re: Intel vPro with Mikrotik RouterOS

Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:26 pm

I agree . +1
 
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Re: Intel vPro with Mikrotik RouterOS

Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:48 am

What kind of 3. party software do you need???
I don't really see a need for this... Mikrotik should use the time for fixing bugs and making RouterOS better and better!
And about the Apple AppStore, other's have try'd to copy the concept and are failling!
Do Cisco or Juniper have an "AppStore", i don't think so, there may be a reason for this?

Have you seen how many "Flashlight" And "Battery monitor" App's there is, in the AppStore???
Mikrotik don't need to waste time on processing App's that makes my router go blinky blinky...


Just my point of view!
 
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Re: Intel vPro with Mikrotik RouterOS

Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:06 am

Intel vPro = rubbish
 
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Re: Intel vPro with Mikrotik RouterOS

Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:04 am

The metarouter feature supports WRT images and you can make your own Linux images. No direct access to hardware at the moment, but you can add your own (non-hardware) features to a routerboard running routeros and a virtual machine running your image.