When coming AC Wave2 chip?
Planned this year or not?

I hope MikroTik will announce it in MUM Denver tomorrow

If yes, please write here!

Thanks!

Have news for us?

Looks like there are not news about AC Wave 2.

Only new in US MUM was a new chipset improvement of actual 802.11 ac wave 1 up to 700 mbps

Maybe they are waiting on 802.11ac Wave2 chipset pricing to come down.

Building outdoor products with MU-MIMO requires support both at the AP and the CPE for best performance.

Only new in US MUM was a new chipset improvement of actual 802.11 ac wave 1 up to 700 mbps

Where was this mentioned? Is there any document?

Maybe they are waiting on 802.11ac Wave2 chipset pricing to come down.
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I am asking myself how much an wave2 chipset actually costs. Do you have any pricing information?

Only new in US MUM was a new chipset improvement of actual 802.11 ac wave 1 up to 700 mbps

Was there a reference for this?

edit: anuser beat me to this!

MikroTik haven't published the ppt slide yet.

This information is from my trainers colleagues, who attended Denver MUM.




Regards.

Impressive.... UDP test but impressive. 80Mhz ? or 160 Mhz ?

When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Looks like Not this year!

very bad!!!

700 meg wireless throughput, year right. You ain't gonna get that without the following:
- A faster CPU on the motherboard
- A 160 MHz wide frequency channel 2x2 , or a 40 MHz wide 6x6 channel.

Don't get me wrong. I am wanting a 160 MHz wide 2x2 AC wireless card and can use it now. ((( My 80 MHz Ceee 2x2 networks can only deliver about 500 meg max ))).

North Idaho Tom Jones

700 meg wireless throughput, year right. You ain't gonna get that without the following:
- A faster CPU on the motherboard
- A 160 MHz wide frequency channel 2x2 , or a 40 MHz wide 6x6 channel.

Don't get me wrong. I am wanting a 160 MHz wide 2x2 AC wireless card and can use it now. ((( My 80 MHz Ceee 2x2 networks can only deliver about 500 meg max ))).

North Idaho Tom Jones

Those are old slides. We can get more now.

700 meg wireless throughput, year right. You ain't gonna get that without the following:
- A faster CPU on the motherboard
- A 160 MHz wide frequency channel 2x2 , or a 40 MHz wide 6x6 channel.

Don't get me wrong. I am wanting a 160 MHz wide 2x2 AC wireless card and can use it now. ((( My 80 MHz Ceee 2x2 networks can only deliver about 500 meg max ))).

North Idaho Tom Jones

Those are old slides. We can get more now.

normis, on a 2x2 connection , what is the Mikrotik-current-hardware and Mikrotik-near-future-planned-hardware fastest connection rate and throughput rate possible.

Those are old slides. We can get more now.

This may be true, but wave2 is not just about speed but also much better simultaneous multi-client operation. This is good for highly congested areas (hotspots, universities, hotels, events, ...). I have not tested any wave2 product myself, but when talking with people who have, they say it works much better in situations where you have lots of users on a single AP.

So... when can we expect wave2 product from mikrotik?

JF.

700 meg wireless throughput

Those are old slides. We can get more now.

What is now possible? Is this only between Mikrotik devices? What can be expected with capsman manager forwarding? I'm currently seeing nowhere near 700 with 6.40.3 on hap ac (support said 700mbps driver update was included as of 6.40RC18)

700 meg wireless throughput

Those are old slides. We can get more now.

What is now possible? Is this only between Mikrotik devices? What can be expected with capsman manager forwarding? I'm currently seeing nowhere near 700 with 6.40.3 on hap ac (support said 700mbps driver update was included as of 6.40RC18)

No, we tested with iperf from a Macbook Pro (because it has a good wifi wireless chip with 3 chain antenna, not a lot of client devices have them).
We could get around 800Mbit in perfect conditions. This was more to test the capability of the device, this is not normally possible with regular download in public area.

I can get 748megabits over a 60-second iperf3 UDP test, with some intervals being as high as 948megabits. This is with an older MacBook Pro and the WAP ac being on the other side of 1 wall, total distance of ~15'.

Ubiquiti recently came out with their 4x4 Wave2 AP with MU-MIMO. Hopefully we see something from Mikrotik in response!

https://unifi-shd.ubnt.com/

the Mikrotik cAP AC just passed FCC compliance and has an 802.11ac Wave2 capable chipset.

So it looks like we will have Wave2 #soon

But Support for QCA9984 etc is missing at moment

the Mikrotik cAP AC just passed FCC compliance and has an 802.11ac Wave2 capable chipset.

So it looks like we will have Wave2 #soon

You are right. First wave2 chipset from Mikrotik
https://fccid.io/TV7CPGI5ACD2ND/Interna ... os-3602640

Will be nice to see this in the hap ac lite and hap ac. There is also a gap for a model between those.

According to unconfirmed information in first half of Jan 2018 will be anounced new SOHO Acess Point with Wave2 support instead hAP AC (+ ISP version with SFP support)
We wait

PS:I'm more concerned about the poor quality of antennas, which affects the range. This is the biggest problem!
They do not have a good specialist in this field.

I have seen model numbers floating around that line up with what you are saying, so with any luck we will have new home AP's from Mikrotik early next year.

TBH a lot of products are due a SOC upgrade, CRS1xx, RB2011, hAP AC Lite, hAP AC, cAP, wAP AC..

I agree, Mikrotik need to focus on the antennas to improve RX performance on their AP's. When we test wAP AC vs Cambium e400, the Cambium has much better RF performance due to the better antenna design.

TBH a lot of products are due a SOC upgrade, CRS1xx, RB2011, hAP AC Lite, hAP AC, cAP, wAP AC..

I agree, Mikrotik need to focus on the antennas to improve RX performance on their AP's. When we test wAP AC vs Cambium e400, the Cambium has much better RF performance due to the better antenna design.

As long as they all come with SFP's

@XDefender

i think there is no new Wireless Device offense from Mikrotik,
We are looking to Another Systems / Vendors for the Future!

Mistry7

@XDefender

i think there is no new Wireless Device offense from Mikrotik,
We are looking to Another Systems / Vendors for the Future!

Mistry7

We unfortunately are also being forced into changing to another vendor, its very frustrating to read that other vendors using similar chipsets with a simpler OS have vastly superior performance.

Yeah disappointing
I sayed It some years ago Mikrotik change focus from WISP Wireless to Home Wireless and Enterprise Routing

Yeah disappointing
I sayed It some years ago Mikrotik change focus from WISP Wireless to Home Wireless and Enterprise Routing

Can someone explain the financial logic of moving away from customers (WISP's) who volume purchase?

As you guys probably know, MikroTik does not comment on unannounced products. You will have to wait and see what we have to show in one of the upcoming MikroTik user meetings, most likely the big European MUM in spring. As to which features have to prioritised - that is a thing where everyone has their own opinion, I guess.

As you guys probably know, MikroTik does not comment on unannounced products. You will have to wait and see what we have to show in one of the upcoming MikroTik user meetings, most likely the big European MUM in spring. As to which features have to prioritised - that is a thing where everyone has their own opinion, I guess.

I hope any new products that come out from Mikrotik will address new markets such as faster,larger more capability, and hopefully hit a home run with core high-end NOC equipment and address fiber-to-the-home markets with CPEs that have a complete package (fiber, wireless, VoIP & battery backup).

What ever Mikrotik comes out with, I'm sure it will be what many admins have been asking about and talking about in these forums. I always look forward to seeing what's new.

North Idaho Tom Jones

Oh look 160Mhz channel support

Then i will try my Wave 2 pcie Modules again in the M11G
Hope for Qualcomm 9888 support.....

As you guys probably know, MikroTik does not comment on unannounced products. You will have to wait and see what we have to show in one of the upcoming MikroTik user meetings, most likely the big European MUM in spring. As to which features have to prioritised - that is a thing where everyone has their own opinion, I guess.

Well, FCC shows a lot of information. No need to comment on it That cAP ac is "cute"

no luck,
Qualcomm Atheros QCA9888 “Besra” Series is still not supportet


mistry7

You can continue to talk mysteriously about your products that will appear. But I'm sure, by that time, many will switch to others.
We are disappointed in your products!
Your WiFI products are outsiders !!!!

Well, I switched to MikroTik wifi access points (WAP AC, HAP AC) because of its features in CAPSMAN. And I´m looking forward to those cAP AC devices when they are ready to ship some time in (hopefully) Q1/2018.

Looking at the pictures of the "cAP AC", it has an PoE In and PoE Out port. I am asking myself whether it is possible to run an "cAP AC" behind another "cAP AC"...

When will the driver come for wave2 ?

don´t ask

I don't expect them to come anytime soon