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wAP LTE SIM Personal Hotspot Limits - Three UK

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:10 pm
by HarvSki
In the UK the carrier "Three" has some good deals on SIMs but they spilt the data allowance up into Personal Hotspot and Use by the phone. I'm not sure how the separation is done, possibly traffic tagging on the phone. How does the wAP LTE deal with this, is it configurable?

Thanks

Re: wAP LTE SIM Personal Hotspot Limits - Three UK

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:24 pm
by uldis
We are not aware of that. Maybe the Personal Hotspot uses different APN?

Re: wAP LTE SIM Personal Hotspot Limits - Three UK

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:46 pm
by HarvSki
That might be it, there are 2 APNs listed when I use the SIM in an adroid phone:

Name | APN | APN Type
3 | three.co.uk | default, mms, supl
3 Hotspot | 3hotspot | dun

Perhaps I'll have to buy a wAP LTE and test it out.

Re: wAP LTE SIM Personal Hotspot Limits - Three UK

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:12 pm
by uldis
you can check maybe someone else responds on the Three UK connection details.
wAP LTE kits should be available for order from the distributors.

Re: wAP LTE SIM Personal Hotspot Limits - Three UK  [SOLVED]

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:39 am
by HarvSki
wAP LTE works perfectly with 3 (three.co.uk) in the UK, so far they are seeing the traffic as coming from the "phone" and not the limited hotspot.

Re: wAP LTE SIM Personal Hotspot Limits - Three UK

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:44 am
by jspool
@HarvSki How is the LTE signal strength with the built in antennas? I am curious how they perform. what kind of speeds do you see? Thanks.

Re: wAP LTE SIM Personal Hotspot Limits - Three UK

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:59 am
by HarvSki
I'm using it on a steel boat, the signal inside the boat on a phone is highly variable and data patchy, previously using the hotspot on a MotoG3 in the Window was giving about 5mbps and occasional dropouts, not with the wAP LTE mounted on a very short pole on the roof about 75cm higher reliably getting 10mbps up/down. Will post more info and perhaps test with wAP LTE in the same location as the phone for a better comparison.

Re: wAP LTE SIM Personal Hotspot Limits - Three UK

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:48 am
by jspool
I'm using it on a steel boat, the signal inside the boat on a phone is highly variable and data patchy, previously using the hotspot on a MotoG3 in the Window was giving about 5mbps and occasional dropouts, not with the wAP LTE mounted on a very short pole on the roof about 75cm higher reliably getting 10mbps up/down. Will post more info and perhaps test with wAP LTE in the same location as the phone for a better comparison.

Thanks for the info!

Re: wAP LTE SIM Personal Hotspot Limits - Three UK

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:05 pm
by Steveocee
I'm using it on a steel boat, the signal inside the boat on a phone is highly variable and data patchy, previously using the hotspot on a MotoG3 in the Window was giving about 5mbps and occasional dropouts, not with the wAP LTE mounted on a very short pole on the roof about 75cm higher reliably getting 10mbps up/down. Will post more info and perhaps test with wAP LTE in the same location as the phone for a better comparison.
Would be very interested to see how this pans out for you. Any thoughts of breaking out to a higher gain antenna to increase things?

Re: wAP LTE SIM Personal Hotspot Limits - Three UK

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:34 pm
by AlanTrollip
I'm using it on a steel boat,.
Was your setup a simple case of SIM in, power up?
Besides adding passwords or renaming the device, did you have to configure anything else? Like frequency bands ? Or DHCP client?

Mine is refusing to connect, and I’m used to the Base Box that needs all kinds of things to be set up for PCI LTE interface.
Wondering if I missed something?



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Re: wAP LTE SIM Personal Hotspot Limits - Three UK

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:29 pm
by HarvSki
I popped the 3 SIM in, maybe put "internet" in the APN, set up usual things like src-NAT and it worked.
I'm using it on a steel boat,.
Was your setup a simple case of SIM in, power up?
Besides adding passwords or renaming the device, did you have to configure anything else? Like frequency bands ? Or DHCP client?

Mine is refusing to connect, and I’m used to the Base Box that needs all kinds of things to be set up for PCI LTE interface.
Wondering if I missed something?



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Re: wAP LTE SIM Personal Hotspot Limits - Three UK

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:43 pm
by uldis
I'm using it on a steel boat,.
Was your setup a simple case of SIM in, power up?
Besides adding passwords or renaming the device, did you have to configure anything else? Like frequency bands ? Or DHCP client?

Mine is refusing to connect, and I’m used to the Base Box that needs all kinds of things to be set up for PCI LTE interface.
Wondering if I missed something?



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Please add logging topic lte,!raw and disable/enable the LTE interface - after that please make a support output file and send it to support@mikrotik.com

Re: wAP LTE SIM Personal Hotspot Limits - Three UK

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:33 am
by Daggaboer
Okay
My bad

It seems there are two issues I have:
The built in antennas are good for being up and open, not on my desk.......
Secondly, My office apparently should be used as a radio quiet zone... super thick walls.
So it was purely a no signal issue.

I also found that the unit behaves like an AM antenna.
So play with the orientation. So a ceiling mount might work better than a vertical mount, in a certain situation.
But your best bet will always be, outside, and high.
This is true of any antenna. Just look up Fresnel Zone and see.

So, let that be a lesson, as to why there exists the possibility of external antennas.

Re: wAP LTE SIM Personal Hotspot Limits - Three UK

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:19 pm
by HarvSki
After a month and getting my first bill from 3 I can confirm this:

These are the settings I saw on my android phone with the 3 sim inserted:
Name ------|- APN -----------|- APN Type
3 -----------|--- three.co.uk --|- default, mms, supl
3 Hotspot -|- 3hotspot -------|- dun


If I set the APN on the LTE interface on the wAP LTE to "internet" then 3 see this as internet traffic, as if it was data directly used on the phone, if I set it to "3hotspot" then 3 see it as Hotspot/Tethering traffic. GoBing (where they let you have unlimited Netflix access etc) works fine too.

Re: wAP LTE SIM Personal Hotspot Limits - Three UK

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:29 pm
by HarvSki
Small update. Have successfully been using the UK Three unlimited data SIM only service for over 2 years, most months consuming over 100gb and sometimes as much as 500gb!