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RB911G-2HPnD + StationBox S + 2x Dipole Antenna
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 9:24 am
by Vitokhv
Why do we have to create a product for ourselves?
When you already nakeneet produce a product with 2x 3x antennas?
The product must be in the price category TL-WR941ND + 50%
Almost all your products without antennas, and if with antennas, then very expensive
I need an access point with the ability to receive the Internet over Ethernet and distribute it via WiFi + WiFi Virtual via 2 or 3 antennas
Will I be able to create WiFi + WiFi Vurtual on L3 license?
Re: RB911G-2HPnD + StationBox S + 2x Dipole Antenna
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 9:54 am
by yottabit
You just need to upgrade to an L4 license. I've done the same for the old RB911 5 GHz product.
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Re: RB911G-2HPnD + StationBox S + 2x Dipole Antenna
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 2:53 pm
by docmarius
A basebox2 offers you a similar board, L4 license , outdoor housing, mount, power supply and PoE injector at a decent price, and a potential upgrade later because of the mini PCIe slot (e.g. a second Wifi interface or a LTE/3G modem).
All you need is 2 of the presented antennas. Wouldn't this be a better choice?
Re: RB911G-2HPnD + StationBox S + 2x Dipole Antenna
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:46 pm
by Vitokhv
How to do it?
How to update to 4 level
Re: RB911G-2HPnD + StationBox S + 2x Dipole Antenna
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:14 pm
by yottabit
How to do it?
How to update to 4 level
You buy the license key from Mikrotik and enter the key. There are instructions in the wiki.
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Re: RB911G-2HPnD + StationBox S + 2x Dipole Antenna
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:23 am
by Vitokhv
yottabit,
Thanks, but it's like buying RB912UAG-2HPnD
Re: RB911G-2HPnD + StationBox S + 2x Dipole Antenna
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:31 am
by Vitokhv
docmarius,
It's expensive, and who decided that we need a PCIe slot for why to pay for it if we do not need it?
p.s. i appeal to representatives of Mikrotik
I just want the representatives of Mikrotik to create a device with two or three antennas, with the ability to distribute WiFi + WiFi Virtual
Re: RB911G-2HPnD + StationBox S + 2x Dipole Antenna
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:30 am
by Sob
I'm with you. To me, this whole licensing scheme looks like relict from the past. It made sense when MikroTik's main business was software. If you sell RouterOS to hobby user, who uses it to connect his PC, notebook and two mobile phones, and you also sell the same RouterOS to ISP who uses it to connect thousands of customers, it doesn't seem wrong when the latter costs more.
To MikroTik's credit, they don't limit features in hard way, i.e. that lower level licenses wouldn't have them at all. Any license level can use any feature, and the difference is just some limit (e.g number of VPN users). And it's a great thing (not the limit, but that features are not completely blocked). The only exception is AP mode in L3 and it sucks.
One can try to apply similar logic as before (hobby user vs. big ISP). Why shouldn't someone, who needs the extra feature (AP mode) pay more than someone who doesn't? It's hard to completely dismiss that. But then you look at product line. Your RB911G-2HPnD is $49 and has only L3. But even tiny little $19.95 hAP mini has L4. And it's not the worse comparison, you can find L3 as high as in $179 product.
Nearest for you is $79 RB912UAG-2HPnD. It has more hardware options, and even though you don't need them, the extra $30 is better then $45 for L4 license you could buy for RB911 (no one in their right mind would do that). Perhaps if there was an option to upgrade L3 to L4 for $10 or so, it could be considered fair. But at MikroTik, they don't belive in upgrades. To quote the manual: "Just like you can't easily upgrade your car's engine from 2L to 4L just by paying the difference, you can't switch license levels as easily.", which I call pure nonsense. Because, you know, unlike car engines, licenses can be changed by one mouse click.
And it's not just AP mode, when you think about it, any limit is pointless when RouterOS is bundled with hardware. If hAP mini had L6, with unlimited PPPoE tunnels instead of current 200, would it undermine sales of CCR? I'm sure that "no" is the safe answer.
Maybe MikroTik will re-evaluate licensing one day. Until then, tough luck...
Re: RB911G-2HPnD + StationBox S + 2x Dipole Antenna
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:37 am
by yottabit
I think sometimes given the exceptionally reasonable price of Mikrotik hardware and software, we lose sight of the economy of the whole situation. Even paying for a license upgrade, where can you find a comparable product for anywhere near this price?
Coming from the Cisco/Juniper/Arista market, I'd happily pay even more than Mikrotik's current price points. But don't tell them. [emoji3]
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Re: RB911G-2HPnD + StationBox S + 2x Dipole Antenna
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:52 am
by Vitokhv
Why you can not do the same on the basis of RBwAP2nD (L4)
Re: RB911G-2HPnD + StationBox S + 2x Dipole Antenna
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:57 am
by Vitokhv
Sob,
Thanks for the comment - "upgrade L3 to L4 for $ 10 or so, it could be considered fair"
I completely agree with you.
Re: RB911G-2HPnD + StationBox S + 2x Dipole Antenna
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:07 am
by Sob
@yottabit: Of course it makes a difference to what you compare it. If you come from overpriced enterprise world, then I guess anything MikroTik is great pricewise. But don't underestimate small customers, who never saw anything enteprise before. They might seem cheap, but if you make them fall in love with your product, they will remember it even when they get bigger. And artificial limits is not the thing that will do it for them.
IMHO the price difference should be based more on level of support, rather than on available features and limits. On the other hand, personally I can't complain about current "democratic" support, where even a little guy can be heard.