In this MikroTik newsletter:

- new 8 x SFP+ port switch CRS309-1G-8S+IN
- new wAP 60Gx3 60GHz Sector Base Station
- new low cost 60GHz CPE LHG Lite60
- InterCell - LTE Base Stations, preorders available
- new active direct attach 5m cable
- RB4011 rackmount ears
- MUM schedule
- MUM Europe 2019 in Austria

Download newsletter here:
https://download2.mikrotik.com/news/news_87.pdf

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wAP 60Gx3

Does it have 3 interface that means 3x2 Ghz Channels?

wAP 60Gx3

Does it have 3 interface that means 3x2 Ghz Channels?

Propaganda letter says:

... It uses breakthrough antenna design, that consists of 96 elements to provide unprecedented 180 degree beam-forming coverage (three times bigger than regular wAP 60G AP!) ...

(highliting is mine)

wrong highlight, though. I would highlight the previous sentence, where it says that there are more antenna elements, so it's basically a sector design. not more interfaces.

wrong highlight, though. I would highlight the previous sentence, where it says that there are more antenna elements, so it's basically a sector design. not more interfaces.

OK, 4 port switch with POE?

Number of antenna elements by itself doesn't say anything about where's performance difference (the increased number of antenna elements could be used as well for better focussing which would mean higher gain) ... that's why I highlited what I highlited.

there is no performance difference. the new sector wAP60 simply has a wider antenna angle, that is all.

It would be nice to be able to connect 3x as many stations per sector though - still limited to max 8.

It would be nice to be able to connect 3x as many stations per sector though - still limited to max 8.

Please

there is no performance difference. the new sector wAP60 simply has a wider antenna angle, that is all.

Wider antenna aperture while maintaining antenna gain (due to beam forming) makes performance difference. At least to me.

Why is the client limit of the 60Ghz AP's still 8?
Is this a chip set limit, software? Practical?

An AP with a wider beam invites for more clients to connect. But if the limit is still eight, why bother. I am already reaching that limit in the 60 degree units. We need more clients per AP.

(And if this means the throughput per client goes down..... I'd rather have 20 clients that can reach maximum speeds of 50Mb (not all at the same time) then only 8 and each can do 200-500mbps....)

- InterCell - LTE Base Stations, preorders available

Can somebody update me on this...
I understood LTE is cell operator's stuff. And the LTE devices Mikrotik sells are to pickup that signal and enhance it.. But you need to connect to cell op's network with cell op's simm card.

Now MT has 'base station'........
Is this aimed at the cell op's world?
Do you need a license to use such base station? Do we need a frequency license? (So we need to bring a couple of millions to buy them from the goverment and in competition to the 'big' boys like Vodafone etc......?)
Can every LTE client (Mikrotik!, mobiles) connect to that base station?

Can somebody enlight me about the LTE and how we as Mikrotik users / WISP can make use of it?

- InterCell - LTE Base Stations, preorders available

Can somebody update me on this...
I understood LTE is cell operator's stuff. And the LTE devices Mikrotik sells are to pickup that signal and enhance it.. But you need to connect to cell op's network with cell op's simm card.

Now MT has 'base station'........
Is this aimed at the cell op's world?
Do you need a license to use such base station? Do we need a frequency license? (So we need to bring a couple of millions to buy them from the goverment and in competition to the 'big' boys like Vodafone etc......?)
Can every LTE client (Mikrotik!, mobiles) connect to that base station?

Can somebody enlight me about the LTE and how we as Mikrotik users / WISP can make use of it?

Yes it is Base Station, and yes for the now supported Bands, are only licensed

This InterCell is not really for WISP. It is for companies who want to operate LTE cell towers, either for public or private reasons. Yes, you probably need a license from the regulator. These InterCell devices only support data (no voice calls, except whatsapp/skype etc over data connection). The InterCell can also be used to interconnect a lot of devices, like our LtAP units, in smaller areas where wifi is crowded or there is no line of sight. Still you need the license for it.

This InterCell is not really for WISP. It is for companies who want to operate LTE cell towers, either for public or private reasons. Yes, you probably need a license from the regulator. These InterCell devices only support data (no voice calls, except whatsapp/skype etc over data connection). The InterCell can also be used to interconnect a lot of devices, like our LtAP units, in smaller areas where wifi is crowded or there is no line of sight. Still you need the license for it.

Its clear, what about count of 60 GHz clients??

chipset limit is 8

chipset limit is 8

Whats about smaller Channels?

Device Is one chipset with 3x60° 96 elements, right?

This InterCell is not really for WISP. It is for companies who want to operate LTE cell towers, either for public or private reasons. Yes, you probably need a license from the regulator. These InterCell devices only support data (no voice calls, except whatsapp/skype etc over data connection). The InterCell can also be used to interconnect a lot of devices, like our LtAP units, in smaller areas where wifi is crowded or there is no line of sight. Still you need the license for it.

Why not for WISPs?

I would love to move to a licensed frequency (my own highway) for PtMP.

I had been looking at Baicells products recently for this same reason. If Mikrotik has a comparable solution, I am sticking with my tried and proven brand. Very excited about this edition of the newsletter.

Can you say why this might not be feasible for WISPs?

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chipset limit is 8

That's a pity! Can we expect some change in the future?

chipset limit is 8

Whats about smaller Channels?

Yes, what about smaller channels?
With smaller channels we can setup more sectors on one tower and still get good speeds (100+Mbps) to the only 8 maximum clients per sector......
(4 frequencies is not enough if you wan't to build a mini cell network that also need 60Ghz for the backhauls. I have one tower with 4 &0Ghz backhauls and 4 60Ghz AP's... it's a hell of a job to get these separated so none of the unit's clients get a signal from one of the other AP's)

- new wAP 60Gx3 60GHz Sector Base Station

60G AP udp both =900Mbps Beta61 Firmware. very nice

chipset limit is 8

But ignite metrolinq (has different chipset, but wigig too) can use 12 clients. Any sollution in future? And somebody from Mikrotik on MUM said, that it is software limit. But it can be a mistake.

chipset limit is 8

Any better chipsets (802.11ay?) on the horizon? Ideally, backwards-compatible with current 802.11ad stations so that only the AP needs to be upgraded.

Also 60GHz hardware with SFP+ port is badly needed... channel capacity is so much higher than what we can use currently.

chipset limit is 8

there was a press announcement from Qualcomm and Mikrotik back in october around the 17th or so, emphasising Qualcomm's upcoming QCA64x8 and QCA64x1 chipsets, promising .11ay.

https://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/ ... hz-80211ay

channel capacity is so much higher than what we can use currently.

let's be easy with that. if you can't have more than MCS9 (SC), then 1Gbps is just ok. .11ad doesn't have channel bonding, so in general you couldn't use the available extra juice anyway.
.11ad has at least channel bonding, they said. but the standard is not out yet. unless you have more radios driving different antenna arrays, you can't really hit the barrier of 1G in a single device. tbh i never saw any of the Mikrotik equipments do MCS11+, but even if we have MCS12, which is in best case around 4.62Gbps, and that's the whole available bw for tx and rx. and this is at radio level.

unless you really can squeeze out the 1+Gbps from the radio, there's no need to bump up the prices of these boxes just by adding a pipe you can't fill even halfway.
in my opinion, nbase-t would be a better fit here. and we also need to take into consideration, that currently PoE is used to power the device - you can't have this at 10GE esp with SFP+

Whats about smaller Channels?

you can be OK with this channel mapping. you can have the 100Mbps clients run the same high MCS, and ultimately serve more safely and do buffering on the FE part. i'm more interested in TDD - cause this is the key to boost client numbers.

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CRS332-32S+RM + community feedback == CRS326-24S+2Q+RM in latest MUM opening presentations.
https://youtu.be/zMbtmeTm1PI?list=PLXr- ... O2&t=2053s

For the WAP 60 it would be great if I could setup it like cAP AC with CAPSMAN enabled, multiple concurrent SSIDs enabled and support for 20/30 e.g. smartphones not only with other MikroTik WAP 60 devices.

In this MikroTik newsletter:

- new 8 x SFP+ port switch CRS309-1G-8S+IN
- new wAP 60Gx3 60GHz Sector Base Station
- new low cost 60GHz CPE LHG Lite60
- InterCell - LTE Base Stations, preorders available
- new active direct attach 5m cable
- RB4011 rackmount ears
- MUM schedule
- MUM Europe 2019 in Austria

Download newsletter here:
https://download2.mikrotik.com/news/news_87.pdf

The interCell is a very good and welcome idea for those with LTE licensed in building small cell to extend coverage, however Mikrotik is missing an important emerging band, B42. It took a long time before Mikrotik released ODU in that Band infact only recently (I mean the LHG 4G kit -RBLHGR&R11e-4G). Are we going to see Intercell in B42 also?

In this MikroTik newsletter:

- new 8 x SFP+ port switch CRS309-1G-8S+IN
- new wAP 60Gx3 60GHz Sector Base Station
- new low cost 60GHz CPE LHG Lite60
- InterCell - LTE Base Stations, preorders available
- new active direct attach 5m cable
- RB4011 rackmount ears
- MUM schedule
- MUM Europe 2019 in Austria

Download newsletter here:
https://download2.mikrotik.com/news/news_87.pdf

The interCell is a very good and welcome idea for those with LTE licensed in building small cell to extend coverage, however Mikrotik is missing an important emerging band, B42. It took a long time before Mikrotik released ODU in that Band infact only recently (I mean the LHG 4G kit -RBLHGR&R11e-4G). Are we going to see Intercell in B42 also?

We are getting lot of requests for B42 LTE Base Station. But we would need to understand more which exact band is needed as it looks more that B48 is the main band that we would need to focus.
What are the requirements for such Base Station for 3.5GHz solution - output power, antenna gain (or can be external), any other software feature?

Is there any news on the CRS312-4C-8XG?

It was announced April 2018.

Is there any news on the CRS312-4C-8XG?

It was announced April 2018.

I am so pumped up for these product but still nothing...
I will keep looking for them.

Is there any news on the CRS312-4C-8XG?

It was announced April 2018.

I am so pumped up for these product but still nothing...
I will keep looking for them.

I know, right? It hits all the sweet spots: low end CPU for those of us that don't really need routing (to keep the cost way way down as well) with the non-blocking bandwidth we all want in a switch at an affordable price ($400 maybe?) to crush other brands that are way overpriced for a simple home setup.

I mean, I purposely bought the CRS328-24P-4S+RM specifically to match this CRS312-4C-8XG device when it comes out for 40 Gbps between the two - while connecting my laptop (with a 10 Gbps RJ45 10GBaseT dock!) and two servers, both with 10GBaseT onboard the motherboard - not to mention my new desktop. The CRS328-24P-4S is still sitting in its box as I remodel the house in the coming months, which includes cat6a everywhere and a few fiber drops (since it's so cheap, and the "just in case" between my home office and rack location across the house).

This InterCell is not really for WISP. It is for companies who want to operate LTE cell towers, either for public or private reasons. Yes, you probably need a license from the regulator. These InterCell devices only support data (no voice calls, except whatsapp/skype etc over data connection). The InterCell can also be used to interconnect a lot of devices, like our LtAP units, in smaller areas where wifi is crowded or there is no line of sight. Still you need the license for it.

Ohhh. This is something very very interesting for me. Would like to know details about it. Does it include vEPC inside the cell? Can it connect to operator EPC? What will be the software? What is the roadmap? Does Mikrotik has strong interest to continue this solution until 5G (maybe too early to ask)?

This InterCell is not really for WISP. It is for companies who want to operate LTE cell towers, either for public or private reasons. Yes, you probably need a license from the regulator. These InterCell devices only support data (no voice calls, except whatsapp/skype etc over data connection). The InterCell can also be used to interconnect a lot of devices, like our LtAP units, in smaller areas where wifi is crowded or there is no line of sight. Still you need the license for it.

Ohhh. This is something very very interesting for me. Would like to know details about it. Does it include vEPC inside the cell? Can it connect to operator EPC? What will be the software? What is the roadmap? Does Mikrotik has strong interest to continue this solution until 5G (maybe too early to ask)?

As written in the PDF of Intercell it will support built-in EPC with up to 256 clients and also will support external EPC if you have an existing EPC. It will feature special dedicated software (not RouterOS). Currently only B38/B39 bands, what LTE bands you are looking for? Currently it is too early to talk on the 5G Base Station.

it's possible create an antenna only like LHG for 2G/3G/4G solutions? I want integrate bigger antennas to my RBM33G and mANT LTE 5o are very little.

What, my RB260GS paperweight switch is not getting RouterOS?
I was sure that was coming LOL.

This InterCell is not really for WISP. It is for companies who want to operate LTE cell towers, either for public or private reasons. Yes, you probably need a license from the regulator. These InterCell devices only support data (no voice calls, except whatsapp/skype etc over data connection). The InterCell can also be used to interconnect a lot of devices, like our LtAP units, in smaller areas where wifi is crowded or there is no line of sight. Still you need the license for it.

Ohhh. This is something very very interesting for me. Would like to know details about it. Does it include vEPC inside the cell? Can it connect to operator EPC? What will be the software? What is the roadmap? Does Mikrotik has strong interest to continue this solution until 5G (maybe too early to ask)?

As written in the PDF of Intercell it will support built-in EPC with up to 256 clients and also will support external EPC if you have an existing EPC. It will feature special dedicated software (not RouterOS). Currently only B38/B39 bands, what LTE bands you are looking for? Currently it is too early to talk on the 5G Base Station.

Thank you Uldis. I think B38/B39 is fine in initial stage. Those frequencies are popular among most of countries.

Can we please have special mounting fot having 2 SFP+ port switch CRS309-1G-8S+IN in one rack Unit

What about CCR1036-12G-4S+?

b48 easier to license in eu countries..
what is the performance of that lte ""wimax"" product? no info regarding speeds

there is no wimax product here. what do you mean?

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Iirc CRS332-32S+RM evolved into CRS326-24S+2Q+RM

Hello it's possible to a SFP+ Ethernet Module to have POE-out capability ?

Hello it's possible to a SFP+ Ethernet Module to have POE-out capability ?

Great choice of thread to ask such question!

No it's not. SFP and SFP+ have standardized maximum power draw (which is relatively low) so unless you'd like to power some ultra low powered device there's no chance. Also SFP is powered by 3V so it's quite low for PoE standards. Average SFP/SFP+ draws around 1W up to 1.5W for long distance ones. It'd be hard to find device that can be powered with that

Of course you could break those standards and make specialized switch and specialized modules but those modules would burn any normal hardware, not suited for such current.

Hello it's possible to a SFP+ Ethernet Module to have POE-out capability ?

Great choice of thread to ask such question!

No it's not. SFP and SFP+ have standardized maximum power draw (which is relatively low) so unless you'd like to power some ultra low powered device there's no chance. Also SFP is powered by 3V so it's quite low for PoE standards. Average SFP/SFP+ draws around 1W up to 1.5W for long distance ones. It'd be hard to find device that can be powered with that

Of course you could break those standards and make specialized switch and specialized modules but those modules would burn any normal hardware, not suited for such current.

Thanks

b48 easier to license in eu countries..
what is the performance of that lte ""wimax"" product? no info regarding speeds

We will see on the other bands when we will release the current series but it is possible that we could look at 3.5ghz bands. All depends on the demand. As currently the 3.5ghz is more popular in US.
Regarding the speed you can see the datasheet what ti the maximum download/upload speed.

Dear all how can i receive on my mail information about critical router OS updates ? Im alreaady registered, but there is still no notifications....

thx

Arek

Dear all how can i receive on my mail information about critical router OS updates ? Im alreaady registered, but there is still no notifications....

thx

Arek

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viewtopic.php?t=137284

Dear all how can i receive on my mail information about critical router OS updates ? Im alreaady registered, but there is still no notifications....

thx

Arek

Security Announcements Blog with RSS feed
viewtopic.php?t=137284

Hi. Blog is outdated....i need some notification everytime when new Router OS will be available.

Thx

Dear all how can i receive on my mail information about critical router OS updates ? Im alreaady registered, but there is still no notifications....

thx

Arek

Security Announcements Blog with RSS feed
viewtopic.php?t=137284

Hi. Blog is outdated....i need some notification everytime when new Router OS will be available.

Thx

MikroTik script checking for updates every hour and sending mail I guess. You can't get update notification faster than that lol...

viewtopic.php?t=83976

here, script at the bottom. Checks whether router is up to date and sends email otherwise.

I'm using VTel Wireless and would buy a Mikrotik CPE unit for LTE service if it were available on the bands in use: 4, 12, 17, and 41 (preferred).
Here's the reference:
https://www.vtelwireless.com/devices/

Smaller less heavy ODU needed in B42 LTE CPE

@uldis. I don't know why I don't get notification on responses I should have replied this earlier. Yes, you'll get a lot of request on this band (B42) because,it is arguably one of the lowest cost LTE band globally with quite a number of regulators in most countries opening it up for license now. However I just wrote a piece on the way forward here viewtopic.php?f=7&t=144428&p=714934#p714934 For the majority of Mikrotik users on unlicensed fixed wireless, B46 (also known as 5ghz small cell (LTE-U and/or LAA) will bring the true value to most unlicensed users. For InterCell, Mikrotik should be looking at B42/B43 I think.

Dear all how can i receive on my mail information about critical router OS updates ? Im alreaady registered, but there is still no notifications....

thx

Arek

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viewtopic.php?t=137284

Hi. Blog is outdated....i need some notification everytime when new Router OS will be available.

Thx

https://mikrotik.com/download.rss

https://twitter.com/mikrotik_build

Thank you for sharing this one. It's very helpful!

https://twitter.com/mikrotik_build

Does MikroTik have also other Twitter accounts?

Dear all how can i receive on my mail information about critical router OS updates ? Im alreaady registered, but there is still no notifications

Dear all how can i receive on my mail information about critical router OS updates ? Im alreaady registered, but there is still no notifications

Holy crap, bots get smarter every day

Is it possible that Marvell® Prestera® is the future choice for the CCR-line ?

One use case for InterCell would be on the ships in international waters so to eliminate phones doing excessive sync and cloud backups over satellite uplink.
Most phones are set not to do such traffic while in roaming so this would eliminate need to block such traffic.
Hope this starts to add on ideas...

Where could I get more info on what would be needed to use these LTE stations in such scenario?
What is provided and what is missing?

Thanks,
Tihovsky

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