Hi, sorry am new to this but have just set up dude manually just pinging my clients or their radios and all clients show either green or red on the main map but I also want to see them go orange when they have an unstable ping on that same map is there a way of doing this as I cannot seem to find it ? your help is much appreciated. Kind regards Kay

It's fairly simple Kay, The Dude does that automatically...whether you do auto discovery or not it will work. Auto discovery is the easiest way to add devices and their services are discovered automatically for you. The devices never turn orange because they never fail on the ping or you didn't add ping to the services tab, to be probed(devices are gray when in an unknown state).

You said they are green so you evidently have ping added ping as a probed service...add more services that you know the machine doesn't have. Add hpjetdirect, gopher, ftp, etc if the machine is just a router and it will turn orange; you may need to add 2 or more bogus services. 1 downed service should do...I'm not sure. Orange is for partially down...that should work...you really don't want to see orange Kay, If you need help with auto discovery let me know...adding a large number of devices manually just isn't the way to do it.

Hi Bryan, I cannot autodiscover as it knocks my entire network over with 200 customers, all I want to do is ping them and am doing that , have added ping to the services but cannot get the map to go orange when they are unstable. It does show me them orange if I click on the client if they are unstable but not on the map and all I want is the map running - sorry not technical but like the dude and would like it to show me this ? please !

I know what you mean about not wanting them to go orange

Try this-right click on a device-go to Polling-Change the Polling Interval to something to your liking...I don't know the default setting-Change the Down count so you'll know how many pings fail before a device turns red.

This should update the map quicker without you having to click on the item to see if it's down or not. Tell me if that works for you. I'd first change the Polling Interval and watch things to see if you get your precious orange. I don't know how The Dude analyzes failed pings...you probably have to fine tune the setting above to get the colors you want. I works fine with my wireless clients when they drop packets, but I used auto discovery.

Can you ping your devices from within Dude without it bringing them down...YES. If so then you can use the auto discover function but de-select all the other service probes and device types except ping; if you're really paranoid. I don't want you to flood your network, but a ping is harmless. There is something else that is causing havoc, but it surely isn't ping.

Seems like the original topic got lost...I have the same issue/request.

If you are monitoring ONLY ping on a device it will never go Orange, only Green and Red. If it truly is unstable and you happen to open "Settings" you will see that it is Orange/Unstable, but the Map icon is still Green. We want the Map icon to match the color on "Settings" - General. Yes, devices on the Map go Orange if SOME of the services you are monitoring go down and others are still up, but this does not happen if you monitor only ONE service.

Hope that helps.

Thanks
Ed

If you change the polling interval you will get what you want...that is all there is to it.

try it and call me a liar if it doesn't work.

I have tryed what you say but it doesnt work and I dont want to clog up the network with other sorts of monitoring apart from ping, all i want is to be able to see if a coneccion is unstable
thanks

I think everyone is missing the point. I'm looking at a map. My map had about 200 dveices. I get a sound notification saying something went unstable. The map still shows everything green. I cant go through each one individually to see what is unstable. I have to look at my email which makes the whole point of the map irrelevant. I want to see a color change when it goes to unstable then another color change when it goes down. I don't think this is possible currently but I am still working on it.

I think everyone is missing the point. I'm looking at a map. My map had about 200 dveices. I get a sound notification saying something went unstable. The map still shows everything green. I cant go through each one individually to see what is unstable. I have to look at my email which makes the whole point of the map irrelevant. I want to see a color change when it goes to unstable then another color change when it goes down. I don't think this is possible currently but I am still working on it.

I know what you mean...maybe I'll have to post a video to show LeAnomalie that if you do what I said in this post, then you can see what is going on at a glance.

Riostat...that additional monitoring traffic is needed if you want the map to show link health...that is the only way...if you change the ping interval then it will simply generate more ping traffic...nothing special...no snmp or anything.

Maybe you will because this is something I would really like to do. If you get some time I would really appreciate it but it is not a priority.

Thanks

If you change the polling interval you will get what you want...that is all there is to it.

try it and call me a liar if it doesn't work.

OK, you're a liar I have found NO WAY to make an object turn orange "ON THE MAP" when it is unstable AND (Very Important AND) you are only monitoring ping. If you are only monitoring ping, you get either Up/Green or Down/Red.

Thanks

I have videos for you guys...they just aren't being rendered in a format that I can upload them. It is a bit hard to see the text on the screen actually, which is not good. I am primarily using Linux, but I have it working for sure. It is sooo easy, if you monitor ping even. I don't take being called a liar lightly

I plan on doing a lot of video stuff tomorrow so I should have something online before the week is over.

I'm still need the map to show orange.

Yes, this topic is drifting, but there is something that has been missed.

Seems like you want orange, but you dont define what constitutes 'unstable'. I would think you are referring to packet loss, or flapping. Therefore, look at the ping probe parameters and adjust them down to be almost impossible to be considered up. There are retry and time parameters. If you said, if the latency is over 1ms, and only try once, that might make it change color. If possible, load the link to force the condition to test it. I am sure if it goes red, that will draw your attention, and if it isnt really down, and just sustaining packet loss, you needed to look at it anyway. If its down, you needed to be there anyway. You will eventually obtain your optimum threshold for your 'unstable orange' condition. Seems you want a tri-state device condition. Up/packet-loss/down. If there are only two states, this will still work because it will require your attention in either an unstable or down condition.

You could also have an alternate ping probe with a different name, but is much more sensitive. I tried to force this on my network, but the ping times are too low. But I observed another helpful indicator in testing. If you are using links with bandwidth indicated, at a certain threshold, they change color to indicate at least 'heavy traffic'. That is very handy on backhaul links. Heavy traffic conditions could cause 'instability'. If its an RF condition causing instability, thats a whole new topic.

Hope this helps...

I've got a 46" LCD screen on my wall with this map. My goal was to visually see what is unstable. We have a few throughout the day and some are more important than others. With "my precious orange" I can look up to see if it needs attention right away. If its the link to a switch with 2 users then they may just get a bit slow. If its a link to a switch with 45 users on it then I should probably look in to it right away. I do have the sounds working so I at least know that something is unstable and can check my email, but that still takes to long.

I really like the idea of having two different probes for ping. I'm going to try that and see if I like it.
Thanks znet!

It works great. I created a second ping probe and adjusted the timeout and down count. I now have my "precious orange"... I have one problem though. When I had just one ping, I had a sound notification when the service went unstable and another when it went down. Now I have 2 probes and my sound notifications wont play until the service either goes down all the way or comes online. Its a huge delay and I want a bit more notice. Anyone have any ideas?