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SXT 5, Omnitik AC, UNII 1 gone?

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:19 pm
by 0ldman
I apologize if I missed this, can't find any info on it in the changelogs or searches.

If I update Omnitik AC or SXT 5 Lite (so far) to 6.47.7 it removes UNII 1 from the frequency list.

Thankfully I haven't done this on anything in the field or that could be a real problem.

Why are we losing UNII 1 when other devices are even gaining DFS?

Re: SXT 5, Omnitik AC, UNII 1 gone?

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:44 pm
by bpwl
Omnitik ac and SXTsq are "outdoor" devices, and locked to outdoor allowed frequencies as such. (You cannot set installation "any" or "indoor".)
And so is "SXT 5 Lite" probably as well.

U NII-1 is "indoor only" for many regions, such as Europe (ETSI regulation). Using it outdoors there is illegal.
US may allow this, even UK.
Region/country to be checked with "/interface wireless info country-info" for the current release.

Re: SXT 5, Omnitik AC, UNII 1 gone?

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:41 pm
by 0ldman
UNII 1 is outdoor in the US as well. That's why I'm confused. Initially it was indoor only, they changed that in 2012 or so, changed 3 or 4 times since in how we're allowed to use it.

There are regulations, obviously, but it's available to use outdoors.

Re: SXT 5, Omnitik AC, UNII 1 gone?

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:04 pm
by bpwl
Lucky guys in US :-)

Which one did you use ?
[admin@MikroTik] > interface wireless info country-info "united states" 
  ranges: 2402-2472/b,g,gn20,gn40(30dBm)
          2417-2457/g-turbo(20dBm)
          902-927/b,g,g-turbo,gn20,gn40(30dBm)
          5170-5250/a,an20,an40,ac20,ac40,ac80,ac160,ac80+80(30dBm)
          5170-5330/a,an20,an40,ac20,ac40,ac80,ac160,ac80+80(27dBm)/dfs,passive
          5250-5330/a,an20,an40,ac20,ac40,ac80,ac160,ac80+80(27dBm)/dfs,passive
          5490-5730/a,an20,an40,ac20,ac40,ac80,ac160,ac80+80(27dBm)/dfs,passive
          5735-5835/a,an20,an40,ac20,ac40,ac80,ac160,ac80+80(30dBm)
...etc

[admin@MikroTik] > interface wireless info country-info "united states2"
  ranges: 2402-2472/b,g,gn20,gn40(30dBm)
          2417-2457/g-turbo(20dBm)
          5170-5250/a,an20,an40,ac20,ac40,ac80,ac160,ac80+80(17dBm)/indoor
          5250-5330/a,an20,an40,ac20,ac40,ac80,ac160,ac80+80(23dBm)/dfs,passive
          5490-5590/a,an20,an40,ac20,ac40,ac80,ac160,ac80+80(23dBm)/dfs,passive
          5650-5730/a,an20,an40,ac20,ac40,ac80,ac160,ac80+80(23dBm)/dfs,passive
          5735-5835/a,an20,an40,ac20,ac40,ac80,ac160,ac80+80(30dBm)/outdoor
  ...etc
        
[admin@MikroTik] > interface wireless info country-info "united states3"
  ranges: 2402-2472/b,g,gn20,gn40(30dBm)
          5170-5250/a,an20,an40,ac20,ac40,ac80,ac160,ac80+80(30dBm)/indoor
          5735-5835/a,an20,an40,ac20,ac40,ac80,ac160,ac80+80(30dBm)/outdoor

Re: SXT 5, Omnitik AC, UNII 1 gone?

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:08 am
by 0ldman
United States 3, just not sure why it is listed as Indoors now when it wasn't earlier.

That band is open to general use, has been for years and earlier versions of ROS don't have any kind of limitation.

Did they lose certification or is this listed incorrectly?