MikroTik

https://fccid.io/TV7CPGI52XL

i hope this one will come with wifiwave2 as standard.
hell, it could be the first wifi6 device from Mikrotik if it is IPQ6018 (2x2+2x2) or IPQ8074 (8x8+4x4) based...

RB cAP G i - 5acD 2nD - XL (- US)
Gigabit
PoE out 500mA
5GHz ac 2 Chain
2Ghz n 2 Chain
XL eXtra-Large

WLAN 2400-2483.5 MHz / 18.87 dBm
RLAN 5150-5250 MHz / 17.81 dBm
RLAN 5250-5350 MHz / 16.85 dBm
RLAN 5470-5725 MHz / 15.11 dBm

2x2? What's XL about that? :)

And as it is named RBcAPGi-5acD2nD-XL, It is definitely not an AX device.

if it is IPQ6018 (2x2+2x2) or IPQ8074 (8x8+4x4) based...

Same IPQ4018 according to the photos.

inside chassis are some reflector to concentrate antenna emission/gain....

P.S.: the dBm are for US market, not for the unlocked version.....

The antenna gain is 5.5 on both 5GHz and 2,4GHz

If like other model with same chip, max TX power is near 26dBm unlocked...

Finally, better antennas + reflectors: exactly what I had been cracking my head on how to mod a cAP AC to be.
Looking forward to a wAP AC XL too with similar 'internals' and antenna reflectors to focusing send/receive signals forward (not omni!) for when one installs them on building walls. I'll hold off a purchase I was considering.

Really bummed, though, that no AX. 😫

It's literally just a cAp AC motherboard in a different case with reflectors.

Come on Mikrotik, releasing "new" products with 16mb NAND / 128 MB RAM right now is pretty insulting.

/facepalm
It's 2021 and Mikrotik is still releasing devices with 16MB SPI flash (it's there on internal photos next to SPI+UART header) and 128MB Nanya RAM that can't even run it's own wifi2 package to at least get wave2 features... what a disappointment.
With announcement of RB5009 I hoped better hardware with WIFI will soon follow... but apparently not.

With announcement of RB5009 I hoped better hardware with WIFI will soon follow... but apparently not.

Be realistic, we are in the midst of a global chip shortage with lead times from Qualcomm on some WiFi products at 60 weeks..

Does the cAP XL ac have a square case option like the original? I couldn't see anything on the product page and most installs I've done prefer the aesthetics of the square case.

ACv1... in 2021.

Thankfully OpenWRT fixes that.

Looking forward to a wAP AC XL too with similar 'internals'

I saw a photo of the new wAP AC and it does seem to have changed to PCB antennas, I wonder how much of a difference these are compared to the plate antennas?

Be realistic, we are in the midst of a global chip shortage with lead times from Qualcomm on some WiFi products at 60 weeks..

MikroTik has the ability to jump the queue, often that involves paying more

MikroTik needs to learn how to you know.... charge money for their products....
It's good that most products are so very cheap, but many are simply TOO cheap especially nowadays when the standard of quality really does need to be higher

Things like 16mb flash is a flapping joke, I think ALL of us would happily paid a few bucks more for larger onboard storage so that we can actually fit wave2 packages
HAP AC2 could have had AC wave 2 by now and it would have been way, way, way better value to have paid a little bit more so we could have had drastically better wifi performance, without having to replace the entire router
or 4011 with USB port and speaker.... adds $2 maybe, but vitally important for many users and well worth paying for
24/48v voltage switching in PoE products
Bring back PoE out ports on CPE routers
More high speed port density
Invest more than $3.50/year into Wireless R&D....

MikroTik needs to stop scraping the bottom of the barrel and focus on better products, charge more money for them and make it worth it, but its just not worth saving a few pennies when its harmful to the end customers deployments

Now that the cat is out of the bag: Will the mounting plate of the cAP ac be compatible with the cAP XL ac? That would make for an easy upgrade path.

MikroTik needs to stop scraping the bottom of the barrel and focus on better products, charge more money for them and make it worth it, but its just not worth saving a few pennies when its harmful to the end customers deployments

I agree. There is no point trying to beat no-name cheap white-label junk. There is nothing to win.

Now that the cat is out of the bag: Will the mounting plate of the cAP ac be compatible with the cAP XL ac? That would make for an easy upgrade path.

Nope

https://youtu.be/_IGIKthVu4I

Damn, that review does not look good. Wonder how it can be so much worse than the original? Maybe you got a bad model.

Damn, that review does not look good. Wonder how it can be so much worse than the original? Maybe you got a bad model.

I didn't buy a cap XL AC. There is no way I would continue to deploy radios that can't even be updated to 2016 standards.

I use the radios in the hAP AC2 as a scanner only. Love that thing as a router. And if it would have at the least been able to do WiFi 5 V2... it would be my "I use this for everything box".

Right now I have a hAP AC3 set up as a radio only. To use the WiFi wave 2 driver it can't work with caps-man. This send me back to logging into each radio to trouble shoot or even configure. Plus VLANs. Virtual APs. Scanning. All sorts of things are missing in it now.

Ohh and the key exchange time out issue that I have complained about for years, is also happening with my test unit.

While I was working with my long term "tormentor" (when you work with someone for 30 years... Mentor doesn't fit anymore)... I was shaking my head at how the hAP AC3 is just sucking with the AC Wave2 driver.

Yes it's the best performance I have seen from a Mikrotik radio... But it's still years behind the times. Especially with this annoying group key update coming around again.

We realistically can't use it for more than one SSID and have to log into each radio... Like it's Linksys WRT, 15 years ago.

"Chris, We can get the Eero Pro 6 for like $150. Yeah it can't do all that neat stuff you came up with for caps-man... But with one SSID... You haven't needed to even look at the 2 test systems since we put them in this summer. I think you need to come back to reality, and try to look at this from the customer's point of view."

Yes it's the best performance I have seen from a Mikrotik radio... But it's still years behind the times. Especially with this annoying group key update coming around again.

We realistically can't use it for more than one SSID and have to log into each radio... Like it's Linksys WRT, 15 years ago.

Aye it's not a terrible product, it's just the competition in this space has hotted up and moved the game forward so much from 10-15 years ago.
Other issue is more and more places treat their WiFi as their moneymaker or key connectivity delivery mechanism these days and paying a few ponies more with something with actual support when things don't work the way they aught to work is pretty important to them.