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Problem with 3.0rc6

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:20 am
by v00d00
I have a big problem with 3.0 version.

HARDWARE:
1. two CF to IDE adapter, one with licensed 256mb CF from MT with 3.0rc6 installed on it, and another CF with latest 2.9.46.
2. two SuperServer 5015M-T+ (http://www.supermicro.com/products/syst ... 15M-T+.cfm)

MISSION:
1. I want to use 3.0 fetches like L3 support, better p2p conn.tracking, and other...
2. support for my supermicroservers and dual core processors that are installed on my new routers

PROBLEM DESCRIPTION:
Everything goes normal till version 3.0rc6 freeze. Its booting OK, starting services and everything. But after a few seconds everything freeze and nothing can be done. Even Num.Pad, and ctrl+alt+del in not working. This is happening after I upload or manually add my configurations from my old 2.9.27 (still in work).

Another interesting thing that when I install and ide hdd and windows xp pro with sp2 on it, it works perfectly. I was thinking that maybe problem is in hardware but WinXP pro is working good with all drivers installed. I have tried even some diagnostic and benchmark applications.

After I have done a lot of test, truing to understand where the problem is starting, I have came to this:

FIRST GUESS: I think that somehow 3.0rc6 is not compatible with my dual core supermicro server
SECOND GUESS: or is something wrong with CF, IDE to CF adapter...


Dear Mikrotik Support TEAM, please help me with this problem, provide me an solution, or at least some ideas how I can solve it.

Thanks.

P.S. sorry if I posted in wrong forum.

Re: Problem with 3.0rc6

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:48 pm
by fra.iesus
Same problem on intel little walley board... after upgrade from v3rc1 system freezes a few seconds after boot up on login screen...
After configuration reset everything seems to be ok, so probably the problem is in incompatibility of configuration data...

Re: Problem with 3.0rc6

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:04 pm
by tgrand
Be sure the bios setting for plug and play OS is set to NO.
And disable any onboard devices you may not be using:
Printer port, Com 2, Floppy, Etc, Etc.

Re: Problem with 3.0rc6

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:54 pm
by v00d00
Be sure the bios setting for plug and play OS is set to NO.
And disable any onboard devices you may not be using:
Printer port, Com 2, Floppy, Etc, Etc.
OK I will try that. Any other ideas ?

Re: Problem with 3.0rc6

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:29 am
by changeip
i have 2 border routers that are those same supermicros ... im using the 630 or 631 dual core chips on 2.9. I won't upgrade anytime soon, but I hope that i can in the future to take advantage of the SMP.

I suggest running that linux utility (pci something...) that will list all pci resources and submitting to support. There might be a device that is not getting loaded that the SATA or IDE is depending on.

Sam

Re: Problem with 3.0rc6

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:16 pm
by v00d00
Be sure the bios setting for plug and play OS is set to NO.
And disable any onboard devices you may not be using:
Printer port, Com 2, Floppy, Etc, Etc.
disable all the ports, SATA, everything that I was able to disable... :) and the same thing 27seconds, and it freezes/blocks.

Re: Problem with 3.0rc6

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:40 pm
by macgaiver
try to disable second core in the BIOS.

Re: Problem with 3.0rc6

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:13 pm
by v00d00
try to disable second core in the BIOS.
this is the first thing that I wanted to do, but there is no so option in supermicro bios... :((

Re: Problem with 3.0rc6

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:22 pm
by fra.iesus
try to disable second core in the BIOS.
Any idea on my single core processor? :) (Everything not needed have been disabled in BIOS on first power-on before ros installation)

Re: Problem with 3.0rc6

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 8:20 pm
by changeip
any pci-e or pci cards installed ? maybe remove them just temporarily to see if it boots with a plain hardware install. also make sure to turn off pnp os option in the bios.

A clean install using netinstall and _only_ installing the system package to see if its a package doing it or just the system loading.

If all else fails i still suggest sending a list of pci devices and vendor IDs (lspci) to Support and have them research it. Those supermicros are pretty common out there I believe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lspci

Sam

Re: Problem with 3.0rc6

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:51 pm
by v00d00
any pci-e or pci cards installed ? maybe remove them just temporarily to see if it boots with a plain hardware install. also make sure to turn off pnp os option in the bios.

A clean install using netinstall and _only_ installing the system package to see if its a package doing it or just the system loading.

If all else fails i still suggest sending a list of pci devices and vendor IDs (lspci) to Support and have them research it. Those supermicros are pretty common out there I believe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lspci

Sam
I don't have any pci devices... its clean new server... and with 2.9 latest its working perfectly. I will try tomorrow to lspci...

Re: Problem with 3.0rc6

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:39 am
by janisk
you have a lot of devices hooked on the PCI bus, just live boot some linux distribution and do lspci

Re: Problem with 3.0rc6

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:57 pm
by fra.iesus
Almost all posts are offtopic ;)
The only problem is in router os configuration - after reseting to default (or clean install) system runs normally, but I (we) cannot upgrade with keeping configuration (there is some kind of incompatibility of configuration data files between 2.9.x and 3.x - it's same like wireless cards configuration reset after downgrading from 3.x to 2.9.x)
...or maybe I'm wrong?

Re: Problem with 3.0rc6

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:48 am
by uldis
upgrading from v2.9 to v3.0 will keep the configuration, but downgrade from v3.0 to v2.9 will loose the wireless configuration.