Which OEM unit were you looking at?We looked at those as well as an OEM unit that looks almost identical. It looks like a very nice piece for many applications. In our case, space is not a big issue as we have plenty of rack space where we are deploying them. In a NEMA box or a cramped rack at a POP they'd be an ideal choice.
At our pricing levels, we can also put the PE860's together for considerablly less than the cost of the PowerRouter. This is including 24x7x4 hardware support from Dell, the CF adaptor and a quad gig Intel NIC.
We looked at the specs on the PE860s and put them through considerable testing before picking them. We use the PE860's for other applications and have hundreds of them deployed. We took several from our lab and beat on them to be sure they would perform as expected in this application.
Hi and thanks for updating this thread
Ive ordered a couple PE860 and a couple other servers that are a little bigger, like R200 that we are gonna do some testing on.
Ive also been looking at http://www.commell.com.tw/ and find their product somewhat interesting. Have any of you done some testing of these products and can state their opinion about them? I see they have som nice MBs without fan and cooling and that might be well suited in many installations since the mechanik parts are not there to fail.
regards,
Stig
We've been ordering Intel EXPI9404PT PCI-E from Dell with the PE860's.Do you have any good online shops in USA where we can buy Quad-cards? I guess they will be alot cheeper there.
Stig
This graph is from an HP DL140 that's serves our streaming.
It went live the 1st of the year.
and cpu graphics! and whats you are doing with the router? only routing or firewall, queues and so?This graph is from an HP DL140 that's serves our streaming.
It went live the 1st of the year.
Do you have any updated graphs? I'm curious to see just how much traffic you're pushing.
This graph is from an HP DL140 that's serves our streaming.
It went live the 1st of the year.
Do you have any updated graphs? I'm curious to see just how much traffic you're pushing.
I'll post current graphs soon (we've been swamped with projects lately). This system is configured as a transparent bridge. There are two gig NICs bonded coming in, two gig nics bonded going out with a third nic for management. It sits between a pair of layer3 dell gigabit switches; one is configured as the edge router, the other is a core switch. That core switch feeds two Dell blade chassis. Each Blade chassis is fed with three gigabit links from the core switch. The edge is fed with a 10gigabit fiber connection currently throttled to 2Gbs by the ISP. The platform hosts internet streaming for radio stations.and cpu graphics! and whats you are doing with the router? only routing or firewall, queues and so?This graph is from an HP DL140 that's serves our streaming.
It went live the 1st of the year.
Do you have any updated graphs? I'm curious to see just how much traffic you're pushing.
Hmm.Thanks for you info.
This 1000VT card have good Linux drivers that are available from Intel Download Support.
Hopefully ill see this in the next release, if not ill try get one that are supported.
Regards,
Stig
No queues, connection tracking is enabled; there are 46 firewall filters.you have a well-behaved network only 45k pps for 400Mbps + troughput.
here with only 120mbits we got about 25 k
are you with conntrack activated , any queue or firewall filter rules activated?
thanks!
We have typically pre-installed ROS on the flash drives with different system. You also need to make sure that the SATA controller is set to "native" or "legacy" if there is an option.Very interesting topic that i am looking for!
i never install ROS on any servers like DELL or HP because most of the time i did it. it cannot recognize the HDD(SATA). so, can anyone let me know what to change to let ROS recognize R200 or PE860 HDD(SATA)?
Which Pentium D 3Ghz to which dual core (or Core2 as they are differnt)? There are many versions of each with variations of power usage, cache and bus speed. A faster bus speed and more cache would probably have a bigger impact than more mhz. Are you planning on trying it with multi-cpu on or single?Hello!
CPU - Pentium D 3 GHz
CPU load is approximately 70-80 percent.
Will we see the difference if we change CPU to Intel Dual Core processor ~3 GHz?
We've upgraded to a Dell PowerEdge 2950 with two Intel based 10G adapters. I will do a complete writeup with pictures when I have some spare time.are you using the same Dell PE840 chassis as in the picture?
what model NIC did you install?
I installed successfully with HP DL320 G5p. the system is running in Quad-core Intel Xeon processor. First installed without any configuration, i see the CPU hits up to ~20%. and the server takes time or idle when restart or shutdown.We have typically pre-installed ROS on the flash drives with different system. You also need to make sure that the SATA controller is set to "native" or "legacy" if there is an option.
Actually, I don't know, what is better, to install one CPU with multiple cores or two single-core CPU? For example, in both cases BUS speed and cache size are similar.Which Pentium D 3Ghz to which dual core (or Core2 as they are differnt)? There are many versions of each with variations of power usage, cache and bus speed. A faster bus speed and more cache would probably have a bigger impact than more mhz. Are you planning on trying it with multi-cpu on or single?
As this seems to be a very hot topic..This graph is from an HP DL140 that's serves our streaming.
It went live the 1st of the year.
Do you have any updated graphs? I'm curious to see just how much traffic you're pushing.
As this seems to be a very hot topic..This graph is from an HP DL140 that's serves our streaming.
It went live the 1st of the year.
Do you have any updated graphs? I'm curious to see just how much traffic you're pushing.
Here is a graph from the Dell PowerEdge 2950 with 10G adapters.
This is still pre release 3.17 so the graph itself is correct, but the numbers below are wrong. We have a window scheduled next week to apply the release version of 3.17 that lists adding support for 10G graphing.
CPU max has been 10% during peaks with multi-cpu enabled; which so far has been stable.
First thing, ROS doesn't support the RAID hardware. Even if it did, I would rather use a flash drive of some kind. A flash drive eliminates several moving parts, and a heat source.
I'm curious how MikroTik handles their license if we decided to load the ROS on Dell RAID drives. I like the idea of having ROS loaded on redundant mirrored drives in the event a drive fails.
Doesn't MikroTik key the license on the HDD? What happens if one of the drives in a RAID fails and you replace it? Does the MikroTik license get lost or otherwise render the router "dead" if you swap out a drive within the RAID? Or is the license keyed on the RAID as a whole?
Thanks,
Brad
I'm not concerned with heat or size of the router in this case. I mentioned earlier this is for a data/co-lo center.First thing, ROS doesn't support the RAID hardware. Even if it did, I would rather use a flash drive of some kind. A flash drive eliminates several moving parts, and a heat source.
I'm curious how MikroTik handles their license if we decided to load the ROS on Dell RAID drives. I like the idea of having ROS loaded on redundant mirrored drives in the event a drive fails.
Doesn't MikroTik key the license on the HDD? What happens if one of the drives in a RAID fails and you replace it? Does the MikroTik license get lost or otherwise render the router "dead" if you swap out a drive within the RAID? Or is the license keyed on the RAID as a whole?
Thanks,
Brad
All of the "built-in" controllers I've worked with still would require drivers and software to work correctly; as they are really software emulation. That software emulation eats into your CPU resources.Aren't there motherboards with RAID built-in? If this is the case wouldn't the motherboard BIOS allow you to setup the HDDs in the array? Then I would assume once you boot off of the CDROM MikroTik would "see" the RAID array as a target install drive no different than a single IDE DoM or STATA DoM.
Thoughts?
Brad
I can see updating a RAID driver during the initial installation, but why would you ever update a RAID driver if it was operating properly?
Brad
A Dell from 2001 would be a 2550 or possibly a 2650.Actually we're largely running HP/Compaq servers because our server admin prefers them over Dell.
The last Dell we have running has at one time had a HDD fail and we were able to identify it and replace it without service interruption. It's a pretty old box now (PowerEdge 2950?) I think we bought it back in 2001. Can't believe we've had it that long, but it hasn't required much if any handholding other than the usual Windows updates.
I personally prefer Dell, but don't have anything against HP. The Dell R900 just looks like a nice fit given the 7 PCIe slots.
We've had HP HDDs fail as well without any interruption in service. Walked by and noticed a red light on a drive, pulled it out and slipped a new one in place. Done. Problem solved. Just was thinking that would be a nice thing to be able to do with a core MT router as well.
Maybe our flash drive failures were an anomaly. Have you never had a flash die before?
A Dell from 2001 would be a 2550 or possibly a 2650.Actually we're largely running HP/Compaq servers because our server admin prefers them over Dell.
The last Dell we have running has at one time had a HDD fail and we were able to identify it and replace it without service interruption. It's a pretty old box now (PowerEdge 2950?) I think we bought it back in 2001. Can't believe we've had it that long, but it hasn't required much if any handholding other than the usual Windows updates.
I personally prefer Dell, but don't have anything against HP. The Dell R900 just looks like a nice fit given the 7 PCIe slots.
We've had HP HDDs fail as well without any interruption in service. Walked by and noticed a red light on a drive, pulled it out and slipped a new one in place. Done. Problem solved. Just was thinking that would be a nice thing to be able to do with a core MT router as well.
Maybe our flash drive failures were an anomaly. Have you never had a flash die before?
We've had flash fail after years of service or an "outside influence" such as a lightning strike. It's not a regular occurance. HDD failures however are and we expect them. That's why at the very least you run RAID1 on a server. We have several that are failed now (both on HP and Dell) that will get replaced tomorrow when the replacements arrive. With several hundred servers; you expect that.
With a router; it's just as simple to replace the bad flash and dump the configuration back on. We typically have a licensed spare or two at the ready for new builds anyway. I'd rather not need to wait for the RAID to rebuild or have degraded performance while the array rebuilds.
For any of our critical routers (Cisco included) we also have extra hardware ready. After a failure; we drop-in the replacement and then deal with getting the failed hardware fixed or replaced. Even with 4hr support on an Dell server chassis or a Cisco router; swapping to new hardware is faster.