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ISP only allowing approved CAT6 LTE equipment
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 1:23 pm
by Fractoid
Good day
We have a wireless ISP with decent LTE offerings that I'm considering, but there's a catch. They only allow approved hardware on their network.
I don't believe they whitelist the devices based on their IMEI since I have successfully used approved hardware from other vendors on their network.
I saw that they have recently approved the
Chateau LTE12 for use on their network but would like to know what are the chances of me being able to use my
SXT LTE6 since it's also a CAT6 LTE modem from Mikrotik?
Not sure if this is correct but from what I have seen it seems that the Chateau LTE12 is using a Quectel radio whilst the SXT LTE6 is using a R11e-LTE6.
Any advice or insight here would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Re: ISP only allowing approved CAT6 LTE equipment
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 3:16 pm
by mkx
Not really answering, but ...
I don't believe they whitelist the devices based on their IMEI ...
IMEI number is composed of several parts, only a part of it is specific to actual device, the rest is same for device model. So when MNO whitelists device model, it's checking left 8 digits (of 15-digit number). If you get hold of device with same leading 8 digits (from any source), it should still be fine.
An observation: my Samsung smart phone with dual SIM card option has quite different "most significant" 8 digits for both SIM slots, the "least significant" 6 digits are the same (those are serial numer part of IMEI) and the last digit is again different (because it's check digit).
Re: ISP only allowing approved CAT6 LTE equipment
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 3:33 pm
by holvoetn
Why not simply try or ask them ?
What could be the consequences ?
Re: ISP only allowing approved CAT6 LTE equipment
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 5:04 pm
by Fractoid
Why not simply try or ask them ?
What could be the consequences ?
I have and this was their answer:
We can only allow devices which have been network approved from a quality and reliability perspective. We have identified a range of devices which specifically suite a Fixed LTE offer.
BILLION: BiPAC 8206 AZ | HUAWEI: 5G CPE PRO 2, B2368 (-22, -57, -66), B525S (-23A,65A, -95A), B535-932, B612 (-233, -533), B612S (-25D, -51D, -52D), B618S (-22D, -65D, -66D), B818-263 | MIKROTIK: Chateu LTE12 | TP-LINK: Archer MR600 (EU) 2.0 | VIDA: CPE4000-PLUS, CPE4000-PRO | ZTE: 5G CPE MC801A, MF286 (A, C, C1, D, R) | ZYXEL: LTE7460, LTE7480-M804
Unfortunately that doesn't help me.
The Chateu LTE12 is not going to fare well being stuck out on the roof on a pole.
Re: ISP only allowing approved CAT6 LTE equipment
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 5:17 pm
by holvoetn
Personally I don't see why SXT LTE6 is considered being inferior quality or less reliable then Chateau.
I would still try
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Re: ISP only allowing approved CAT6 LTE equipment
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 5:25 pm
by gabacho4
This looks promising
https://www.reddit.com/r/mikrotik/comme ... are_button
Would seem you can take the IMEI of a device known to work and clone it. Probably not a good idea to try register them both on the network at the same time 9f course.
Re: ISP only allowing approved CAT6 LTE equipment
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 5:27 pm
by holvoetn
THAT far I would not go. That's intentional tampering.
Just trying the device if it works or not is a lot less intrusive.
Re: ISP only allowing approved CAT6 LTE equipment
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 5:53 pm
by Larsa
When an NMO restricts the connection using IMEI, it almost always depends on business agreements with certain equipment providers and not because of technical reasons.
My advice is to change/imitate (or copy) the IMEI from an approved supplier or get another NMO. I've dunit several times without any problems.
Re: ISP only allowing approved CAT6 LTE equipment
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:05 pm
by Fractoid
When an NMO restricts the connection using IMEI, it almost always depends on business agreements with certain equipment providers and not because of technical reasons.
My advice is to change/imitate (or copy) the IMEI from an approved supplier or get another NMO. I've dunit several times without any problems.
Thanks for the advice.
I just happen to have an approved ZTE device that has been inappropriately touched by lightning on-hand. How would I go about copying it's IMEI to the R11e-LTE6 card?
Re: ISP only allowing approved CAT6 LTE equipment
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:14 pm
by gabacho4
You'd need to know the IMEI of the deceased device and then follow that link I posted. There are AT commands to be run.
Re: ISP only allowing approved CAT6 LTE equipment
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:23 pm
by Fractoid
Thanks, I'll try those commands and see what happens.
Re: ISP only allowing approved CAT6 LTE equipment
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:24 pm
by Larsa
I just happen to have an approved ZTE device that has been inappropriately touched by lightning on-hand. How would I go about copying it's IMEI to the R11e-LTE6 card?
The IMEI is usually located on the device itself or sometimes behind the battery on small 4G modems, on the SIM card slot, in the subscription agreement or the receipt.
How to change IMEI:
https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=145059#p803606. Here is another one:
https://gist.github.com/Anime4000/e9213bd4eaef502e4675d736c564fb5c