MikroTik

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 10:01 am**

Due to some big maintenance works on 13-MAY-2023 in the Forum server, our administrators are warning, that a possible password reset will be needed afterwards. This means you will possibly not be able to log in. Use password recovery link to change your forum password (this time, use something randomly generated).

This is not due to a security issue. Your passwords are safe. We are just migrating the server, the OS, and the PHP version. This will cause some issues with login.

TIMER UNTIL DOWNTIME: https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/g ... &font=slab

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 10:03 am**

Thanks for the heads up.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 10:13 am**

Sorry for stupid questions... The posts are safe? The forum software still the same or also phpBB is updated?

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 10:19 am**

Same software, posts safe, accounts safe, but due to some PHP and encryption library upgrades, it might need reset of password. That is the only difference.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 10:21 am**

(this time, use something randomly generated).

Hopefully you are not storing passwords in the clear. Not that is would matter to me, I use a password manager, and set long random passwords, different for each site.

What is odd is your statement "this time, use something randomly generated". Unless you were using hashcat or jack the ripper to guess passwords, you shouldn't be able to tell if the passwords were randomly generated or not.

Also, the passwords should be salted and possibly also have the user id added into the mix, the hashed multiple times (salting and mixing in user id makes rainbow attacks infeasible, because even if two users by chance use the same password, the hashes won't the the same).

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 10:22 am**

Has MikroTik ever considered moving the forums to a more modern solution than phpBB? I know of several forums that were able to migrate from phpBB to Discourse fairly easily, and it has some very nice features..

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 10:23 am**

Any suggestion? AFAIK there is no real forum style alternative.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 10:28 am**

Steinberg (a big music software company) has their forums set up really nicely with Discourse, they migrated from phpBB a a few years ago: https://forums.steinberg.net

They were able to use an included script to migrate all posts going back many years, including attachments/images/etc. I think it could work nicely for the MikroTik forums as well.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 10:33 am**

migrate from phpBB to Discourse

For God's sake, if you want to change software, everything except Discourse.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 10:34 am**

he he

I saw this coming.

So what is better, we stay on the same old hated by everyone PHPBB, or we look for an alternative, which we can't choose, as everyone fights about it?

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 10:42 am**

One of the downsides of phpBB is the way it indexes quotes as part of the response when searching. Does moving to a newer phpBB solve this? That particular downside is applicable to these forums, as quoting is discouraged here because of this behaviour and removing most/all quotes can make individual lines of discussion too hard to follow. I've seen it lead to a lot of frustration among the users here.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 10:47 am**

What time could we expect maintenance? Whole day or particular hours? Not asking if it would happen between 8.45 - 11.56 but if it is planned since 4AM up to 11AM or 8PM up to 4AM GMT?

Edited to precise time period as asked/sugessted by Holvoetn

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 10:48 am**

Specify time range in GMT please :lol:

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 10:53 am**

Be careful when/if you migrate that you don't break links to other threads in the forum itself. HPE migraged their ITRC forums and didn't "fixup" the links to internal threads. That left many dead links, with no good way to know what post they were even originally pointing to. After that fiasco, many long time contributors left the forum for good (including me). It made a useful resource much less useful.

Ubiquiti had a very poor migration from lithium to some "in house" developed from scratch "community" forum, and even though most links were still working, the formatting of many of the code blocks was lost. And it was a rough ride for quite a while. It still has lots of warts, but it is more stable than is was for the first 6 months after the migration.

As bad as some people think phpbb forum, at least is it a devil we know. And people that have invested a lot of time won't be happy if some of the previous functionality does not exist in the replacement. I am sure you can understand that with the v6 to v7 complaints.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 10:55 am**

(this time, use something randomly generated).
Hopefully you are not storing passwords in the clear. Not that is would matter to me, I use a password manager, and set long random passwords, different for each site.

What is odd is your statement "this time, use something randomly generated". Unless you were using hashcat or jack the ripper to guess passwords, you shouldn't be able to tell if the passwords were randomly generated or not.

Also, the passwords should be salted and possibly also have the user id added into the mix, the hashed multiple times (salting and mixing in user id makes rainbow attacks infeasible, because even if two users by chance use the same password, the hashes won't the the same).

If we had stored passwords in the clear, there would be no need to reset

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 10:58 am**

I was just suggesting it, because I think it would be good to migrate. I have used Discourse quite a bit and I find the search a lot better than phpBB. Sometimes I go looking for an old MikroTik forum post that I know exists because I have seen it before and it is still difficult to find. I agree about the links to other threads in the forum itself, those would have to be made to still work. Steinberg was able to do this when they migrated from phpBB to Discourse, all of the links still worked fine. Even today you can find links on other websites to old Steinberg forum posts and you get directed to the correct post in Discourse automatically even though the URL format is completely different now.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 10:59 am**

If we had stored passwords in the clear, there would be no need to reset ;)

Good point.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 11:02 am**

I have used Discourse quite a bit and I find the search a lot better than phpBB.

I agree, search on phpbb could be improved a lot. Try to search for "v7.10" or v7+10, you will still get matches on many things you don't want. Maybe I just don't understand how to make the search work.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 11:04 am**

No problem on search... :lol:
https://www.google.com/search?q=site%25 ... 22v7.10%22

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 11:07 am**

TEST environments are meant for actions like this ...

You will know pretty fast if something is broken or not.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 11:11 am**

Has MikroTik ever considered moving the forums to a more modern solution than phpBB? I know of several forums that were able to migrate from phpBB to Discourse fairly easily, and it has some very nice features..

OOOOOOOOOOOH NOOOOOOOOO NOT DISCOURSE!!!!!!

PLEASE PLEASE PRETTY PLEASE HAVE MERCY WITH US.....

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 11:14 am**

What are the reasons to dislike Discourse?

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 11:22 am**

The question is if anyone is prepared not to upgrade but to MIGRATE whole forum to the new engine and if you can master it in 2 days as the 13 of May is SOON.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 11:27 am**

What are the reasons to dislike Discourse?

Just because it sucks?

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 11:31 am**

I didn't know there was a hatred out there for Discourse, I've always liked it, personally..

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 11:48 am**

My remark was about the general suggestion to upgrade your password, in case it was old and simple.
Since you will have to change it anyway, use a strong and random password

Maintenance planned 0800-0900 EEST
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/g ... &font=slab

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 12:03 pm**

he he :D I saw this coming.

So what is better, we stay on the same old hated by everyone PHPBB, or we look for an alternative, which we can't choose, as everyone fights about it?

It depends on your preferences and needs.

If you want to stick with free open source software then yes, Discourse may be the right choice since it is the most modern and complete.
It won't be easy to redirect old threads and posts, since you can't easily create scripts or manage .htaccess inside the Discourse container.
The size of the container will increase very quickly, but this is something you probably don't care about because you have a lot of space available.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 12:13 pm**

What are the reasons to dislike Discourse?

The reason is, oneday you can't post anymore, then you can again and not then anymore.....forever.

Discourse exclude people and don't give a damn about that. If you don't move, Discourse will leave you behind.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 12:17 pm**

I don't see an issue sticking with phpBB (but then again, I've been using that platform already for way over a decade, I just realize ...)

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 12:26 pm**

https://flarum.org/

Modern, fast, and free!

It is successor of FASTEST FLUXBB, man..

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 12:29 pm**

Discussion drifts to flame war if still water is better than sparkling one or vice versa

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 12:34 pm**

Let's put it this way:
Strengths or weaknesses by now we know and use this forum, the non-novelties of RouterOS 7 are already enough to make us lose sleep...
So no more surprises, better something that works than something new that might not work as one expects...

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 12:34 pm**

migrate from phpBB to Discourse
For God's sake, if you want to change software, everything except Discourse.

I agree with this. phpBB is nice and FAST.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 1:53 pm**

Is there a dark theme hidden somewhere for this forum settings ? ...if not, why not ?! Hurts my eyes just to visit the forum ;-(

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 2:15 pm**

Decrease the brightness of the display... It means that you have it too high.
I think the dark theme was born for lazy people who don't know or don't care to turn down the excessive brightness of the screen.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 2:23 pm**

I think the dark theme was born for lazy people who don't know or don't care to turn down the excessive brightness of the screen.

Thankfully not everyone thinks like you! :)

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 2:24 pm**

For the record: I hate dark themes.
Never understood what the fuzz is about.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 2:29 pm**

Is there a dark theme hidden somewhere for this forum settings ? ...if not, why not ?! Hurts my eyes just to visit the forum ;-(

Search for "Dark Reader" and install it in your browser...

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 2:47 pm**

No one wants Discord ? Highly recommended then I get to hear rextended swear in Italian!! Seriously this aint bad, my only beef is it takes so long to get to the bottom of the thread can you add speedier up and down arrows please.

PS. @rextended, Do you like the time format used on the forum? ;-PP

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 3:01 pm**

btw Mikrotik's discord server exist:
https://discord.gg/MSNDDD8C

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 3:23 pm**

Is there a dark theme hidden somewhere for this forum settings ? ...if not, why not ?! Hurts my eyes just to visit the forum ;-(

You should have a style that automatically changes to light or dark according to a users preference as do so many applications these days. Here is an example for such a theme on phpBB - https://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/style/damaïo/

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 4:15 pm**

Even the spammer slipped in here...

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 4:18 pm**

@normis Maybe if thinking of changing forum software, how about XenForo self hosted?

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 4:20 pm**

Looks the same as here. What is the benefit?

Also changing software means losing all posts.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 4:20 pm**

NOOOOOOOOOOO................

Don't joke........

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 4:27 pm**

I am sure Normis has a backup in a safe place for all forum posts....... right, right???

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 4:27 pm**

@normus I think they have an import script for phpBB. I'm on a couple of them and from the user end look ok, haven't tried to run it. Have setup a few phpBB's for people I know and a few other forum software over the years. They all seem to have their quirks.

Problem is everyone will have their own preference for what software to use.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 4:33 pm**

Also changing software means losing all posts.

No in this case, from phpbb to xenforo, nothing is lost.
With a simple script or a modified .htaccess all old urls can be redirected because the topic id and post id stay the same.

However, if you continue to use phpBB can you turn on notifications?
Pleeease... 😭

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 4:45 pm**

What do you mean about notifications?

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 5:07 pm**

I mean the phpBB default notification menu and the little bell that warns you if you are quoted, mentioned with @, etc etc.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 5:13 pm**

btw Mikrotik's discord server exist:
https://discord.gg/MSNDDD8C

Why have I not heard of this before? Joined. There’s also a pretty active Discord run by TheNetworkBerg. He does Mikrotik stuff on YouTube.

Why not turn on message history?

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 5:15 pm**

I mean the phpBB default notification menu and the little bell that warns you if you are quoted, mentioned with @, etc etc.

I second this. It’s very handy.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 5:18 pm**

What about private messages? INSTEAD...

Notifications were disabled years ago for some issues that I don't have time to fully explain now...

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 5:43 pm**

What I do like about Mikrotiks phpBB (Using the default style)
* Easy to see what post I have posted in.
* Easy to see what post I have read.

What I do not like.
* Private message turned off. (Did find a workaround by creating a temp mail)

.

I use a password manager, and set long random passwords, different for each site.

I do that and also (try to) use a different email on each site I do create an account to.

Example your mail is.
santa.clause@gmail.com you can use
santa.clause+mikrotik@gmail.com
santa.clause+whatever@gmail.com
All will end up in same email. Easy to se what site as leaked your email and easy to block.
If site does not support the + sign, you can do
s.anta.clause@gmail.com
sa.nta.clause@gmail.com
santaclause@gmail.com
santa.cl.ause@gmail.com
All will end up in same email, but you need to keep track of what used where.

And I will ever never connect gmail/facbook user or any account to any other site. Always make a local account

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 6:27 pm**

I mean the phpBB default notification menu and the little bell that warns you if you are quoted, mentioned with @, etc etc.

I did not know this is off. Turned on

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 6:29 pm**

Please ignore the request for private messages, think twice, they better be off....

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 6:41 pm**

I think the dark theme was born for lazy people who don't know or don't care to turn down the excessive brightness of the screen.

No. Dark themes were born to save battery on mobiles that used OLED screens. Don't make any difference when You have an LCD one, but the OLED displays use way less power with a dark theme.

And, just to keep the flames alive, I would like to see a threaded style forum!
There, I just create flames for a full week! :D

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 6:49 pm**

I got notifiactions for the first time ever.....from three years ago.

Update: it advises each time to sent an e-mail to support because off a general error. Better leave it off then.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 7:00 pm**

Notifications were disabled years ago for some issues that I don't have time to fully explain now...

One of these issues...
Also slow responsiveness of the forum...

Now I'm waiting from 3 to 10 seconds from clicking "submit" and see the page...

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 7:24 pm**

MT Discord is good enough to meet up for private chat, U talking to me........ u talking to me?? lets take it to discord.
I cannot wait to speaka with my amico gato.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 7:29 pm**

!@$&Y@%$# discord. Only clowns and trolls.

But it's hard to find proper CMS software for forums. One alternative is using WordPress in the backend and using any of your favourite plugins and add-ons for forums:
https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-discussion-board/

But you need to use distributed system architecture for this. The forum of this size should be behind containers on multiple hosts with fail over and the whole shebang. Maybe Docker Swarm.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 7:34 pm**

I dont seem to attract those types of people................. In any case as ad adjunct, the mT discord is an option, not a replacement.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 7:36 pm**

@#!$!#$!#@!%% discord. Only clowns and trolls.

Incredibly, we totally agree this time... 🤝🤝🤝

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 7:54 pm**

I'm wondering if some people are getting mixed up between Discourse and Discord. Discourse is forum software, Discord is a chat program. They are completely different programs and solutions, only potentially confused because of the similar first five letters of the name. I never mentioned Discord...

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 8:02 pm**

Don't worry, we distinguish garbage PERFECTLY...

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 8:04 pm**

They are completely different programs and solutions, only potentially confused because of the similar first three letters of the name.

As far as i can see it are 5 first letters in common.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 8:13 pm**

Both terms in Italian sound like "Descant" and "Darnel", retranslated into English...

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 8:13 pm**

Example your mail is. santa.clause@gmail.com , you can usesanta.clause+mikrotik@gmail.com ...

Yes Jottne, I hear you! What do you wish as a Christmas present? ;-)

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 8:16 pm**

a Christmas present?

@larsa
Is the ISO time to have Zero Trust that BFD is coming... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 8:19 pm**

"Your signature contains 233 characters.The maximum number of allowed characters is 1."

I must have missed the memo on that too.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 8:20 pm**

@msatter
Too much user just registered for 1 post, and add some time later spam on signature for index the link on google....

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 8:22 pm**

*(@&*(^&*&%^$&% discord. Only clowns and trolls.
Incredibly, we totally agree this time... 🤝🤝🤝

You dont livestream, not that anyone wants to see that. ;-PP and you dont play poker...............

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 9:23 pm**

I did not know this is off. Turned on :)

Thank you 😊

One of these issues...
Also slow responsiveness of the forum...

Now I'm waiting from 3 to 10 seconds from clicking "submit" and see the page...

You reminded me of this

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 10:37 pm**

@msatter
Too much user just registered for 1 post, and add some time later spam on signature for index the link on google....

You can always insert a domain name in the "Location" field as our MikroTik superstar Kevin Myers did.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 10:39 pm**

I'm with some others: No Please not Discord!!!
And reference the request for threaded forum - again, Please NO! One other forum I read is that way and it's damn near impossible to follow.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 10:43 pm**

Invision power ip.board? i can donate you a license.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 11:11 pm**

I have used Flarum for a small forum and liked it. I'm not sure if it's a big step up from the current forum practically speaking. I do think a better search would be good, but I also think that about google and ddg often as well. :-)

I really dislike the bots and achievements that some forums have. It seems like they are trying to pander to children with all that nonsense.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2023 11:37 pm**

Has MikroTik ever considered moving the forums to a more modern solution than phpBB? I know of several forums that were able to migrate from phpBB to Discourse fairly easily, and it has some very nice features..

Do not move the forum!
The current layout is way more readable compared to some eye-candy, bloatware that is being promoted.
The usability is also excellent - without keyboard shortcut hijacking.

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 7:50 am**

Maintenance planned 0800-0900 EEST
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/g ... &font=slab

One day away. When should we stop posting? Will you first kick all users off, then do the backup and upgrade? And then backup before allowing users back on?

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 7:53 am**

Yes Jotne, I hear you! What do you wish as a Christmas present? ;-)

That Mikrotik fixes the logging format, at least follow RFC 5424
viewtopic.php?t=124291

Edit: Can confirm that it now takes 6-8 seconds before something happens after clicking the Submit button while posting a new message. Edit message does not have this delay.

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 7:59 am**

Invision is much worse than PHPBB, believe me.
And suggestion to use Wordpress to power a board this size

people, stop joking

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 8:00 am**

Yeah, it seems each post must wait like 15 seconds, until it notifies all of the people in the thread. Maybe I'll turn it off then.

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 8:07 am**

That Mikrotik fixes the logging format, at least follow RFC 5424

Wish granted! ;-)

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 8:26 am**

Yeah, it seems each post must wait like 15 seconds, until it notifies all of the people in the thread. Maybe I'll turn it off then.

Wise decision.
Too bad there is no option to add a comment next to the setting so in 5 years or so someone else sees it when they want to flip the switch again. :-)

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 8:28 am**

@Normis
You can make a poll and list all the big forum option that are mostly used and see what the feedback it gives.

My personal preferences are phpBB.
Simple and it works.

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 8:33 am**

phpBB is fine for a forum, if people like more interaction the mentioned discord might be a solution but that will never replace a forum

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 8:34 am**

Since everybody is throwing their dime to the heap, let me throw in my own 5 cents:

why fix something which is not broken?

IMO current incarnation of this forum works just fine (specially now that notifications are disabled again ... or are they?), so why change it? Yes, I guess there are things that are better in other form softwares, but then there are things that are perfect in phpBB. As to look&feel ... every body has their opinion about that and why should the opinion of the disgruntled users count more than of those (majority of?) users that are fine with current state?

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 8:38 am**

My vote goes to staying on phpBB too.

Besides, changing forum SW also requires a new learning process for the person(s) maintaining it and a whole new range of specific problems not yet known.
Just upgrade it (if it is truly needed) and be done with it.

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 8:56 am**

Yeah, it seems each post must wait like 15 seconds, until it notifies all of the people in the thread. Maybe I'll turn it off then.

To me it looks like the old problem with DNS Blackhole List.
You could also try disabling this option on your "Security settings" page.
"Check IP against DNS Blackhole List:" change from "Yes" to "No".

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 8:58 am**

Poll is useless, because we will not be switching to another engine

But thanks for the discussion.
Anyway, this upgrade will just mean a new operating system, more modern PHP version and such. Forum engine will be same. Maybe it will be faster.

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 9:28 am**

Good choice to stick with the current engine foremost cause a migration job is more or less hell to get it right.

And perhaps sometime in the future, throw in an useful add-on like a "quote suppressor" that only shows the first two or three lines of a quote which is expandable with a click. An option for advanced search wouldn't hurt either.

PS...
I like the notification icon.

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 9:35 am**

There is nothing wrong with phpBB ...it just needs a user selectable dark theme 🤡

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 9:40 am**

I believe it’s a standard option in the latter releases. There are also a bunch of add-ons for that purpose.

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 9:45 am**

We have always had the latest PHPBB version. Which later release you mean?

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 10:07 am**

My bad, I didn't check it was the current release in use. Anyhow, then you should have no problems adding dark themes and there are plenty of other options to customize whatever you like, if you like, that is. God luck with the update!

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 10:17 am**

I've never missed the notifications, at least not a lot. Use "Your posts" (in burger menu) to find replies to your posts...

There's one thing that annoys me, though: Usually you can click the icon left of the thread to jump into the thread and to the first unread post. This does not work for "Your post"... Any chance to enable that?

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 10:19 am**

@msatter
Too much user just registered for 1 post, and add some time later spam on signature for index the link on google....

There is an easier method.

You register, set info about wabsite and you are indexed by Google. "Memebers" tab/link does it all.
Already suggested to remove all users registered that thay to amplify their SEO with such a trick or maybe it's time to remove this column.

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 11:55 am**

This is my signature:

[IN READ-ONLY MODE]
Loving my freedom and so, no PayPal, no TikTok, no Meta/Facebook/Instagram/WhatsApp, no Apple and no Alphabet/Google, no Amazon/Cloudfront/AWS.

Running: RouterOS 7.7 and 7.2.1 / Winbox 3.37 64bits

It states that Google is one of the bad boys. If it only was visible I would not gotten referals to that bad boy.

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 2:24 pm**

You, and not only you, are just an innocent victim of SEO "masters".

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 4:04 pm**

Yeah, it seems each post must wait like 15 seconds, until it notifies all of the people in the thread. Maybe I'll turn it off then.

Please disable notification... Too much time... 7~10 seconds every post...
I remember one post of staff that some years ago inform that notifications are disabled just to prevent this problem...

Thanks....

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 4:47 pm**

you can turn-off in your own browser. there are people using it.

for existing notifications disable on
ucp.php?i=ucp_main&mode=subscribed

set NO to Notify me upon replies by default in ucp.php?i=ucp_prefs&mode=post
to prevent further auto-subscription in the future.

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 4:51 pm**

As usual another post without thinking...

The problem is not the notifications that reach me,
but the fact that when I send the post, the forum controls all the others who must receive them,
and I can't choose whether or not to send them TO OTHERS...

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 4:56 pm**

for god's sake. let them decide themselves!

you are not sending them anything if they are not subscribed!

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 4:59 pm**

Are you there, or are you on purpose?

This change doesn't just affect me, it affects everyone,
even @normis noticed that you have to wait up to 15 seconds before, after clicking on Submit, the message is sent.

Yeah, it seems each post must wait like 15 seconds, until it notifies all of the people in the thread. Maybe I'll turn it off then.

Don't play dumb.

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 5:01 pm**

@volkirik
Read here: viewtopic.php?p=1001869#p1001544

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 5:03 pm**

It is not a bug, it is a feature... at a cost.

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 5:04 pm**

A function that waits 15 seconds before sending the post?
But don't write bulls–t.

Just click on already present menu "Your posts" and you clearly see on what topic you follow is wroted something...
search.php?search_id=egosearch

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 5:05 pm**

Please disable notification... Too much time... 7~10 seconds every post...

Maybe it's better to wait for the switch to the new server?

There are phpBB forums with millions of posts and active notifications that are not so slow when posting a message.

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 5:08 pm**

And on new server still present same millions of posts
165.739 topics, 929.446 posts, 73.137 members (true members only ~5%, to be optimist, all the others: only spammers)

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 5:09 pm**

Please disable notification... Too much time... 7~10 seconds every post...
Maybe it's better to wait for the switch to the new server?

There are phpBB forums with millions of posts and active notifications that are not so slow when posting a message.

totally. couldnt agree more.

time to check buyvmstock.com

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 5:11 pm**

@rextended
Come on, it's almost there... 😁

TIMER UNTIL DOWNTIME: https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/g ... &font=slab

And please don't cheat...

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 5:17 pm**

OK!

MiaOh????????? [EN: Meow-oh?]

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2023 6:09 pm**

I always suspected that rextended was going backwards in time. Make Italy great again :-)
Why is it taking so long to submit a post ?? ;-)
Discord is snappy!!
msatter I liked your post so much I was going to send ya $50 bucks, then realized you don't accept paypal,......... its the thought that counts!

Posted: **Sat May 13, 2023 8:21 am**

Done. Everyone can start doing password reset procedure. Although you will stay logged in till current session cookie expires, if you still have active session in browser.

Posted: **Sat May 13, 2023 8:25 am**

New password requested, applied and entered.

Posted: **Sat May 13, 2023 9:14 am**

Not related to the password change, but probably to the Notifications something that was enabled before the upgrade:

Notifications or Notifications.PNG

Which one does what?
Also the new waiting time before submit is annoying, you could put a little puzzle to solve while waiting.

Posted: **Sat May 13, 2023 10:37 am**

where is password recovery link to change my forum password?????

Posted: **Sat May 13, 2023 10:40 am**

Log out.
Log in again, then choose "Forgot password"

But since you're in, what's the problem ?

Posted: **Sat May 13, 2023 10:41 am**

Also the new waiting time before submit is annoying, you could put a little puzzle to solve while waiting.

Agree. VERY annoying ...

Posted: **Sat May 13, 2023 10:55 am**

@normis
Regarding submitting time people are complaining about - just change scripts execution order, first post and then announce it in the background (asynchronously).

Posted: **Sat May 13, 2023 11:05 am**

Also the new waiting time before submit is annoying, you could put a little puzzle to solve while waiting.

Please disable notifications AGAIN, like years ago, to fix the same problem from years ago...
8~15 seconds to Submit is too much....

Posted: **Sat May 13, 2023 11:46 am**

@normis
Regarding submitting time people are complaining about - just change scripts execution order, first post and then announce it in the background (asynchronously).

+1

Posted: **Sun May 14, 2023 12:50 am**

Logged off, logged back on. Needed to use the "Forgot password". Link worked fine. Already had a cryptic password, but had my password manager generate a new one. It worked...
Thanks for the system update Normis and the rest of the Mikrotik crew.

Edit: 13 seconds to post...

Posted: **Sun May 14, 2023 11:20 am**

Done. Thanks.

Posted: **Sun May 14, 2023 11:31 am**

Any issues on the new version? refresh helped, but...

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Posted: **Sun May 14, 2023 4:22 pm**

some opinion ti migrating to another forum software
- easier formatting (large posts where colors and other fonts help a lot are done 3rd party editors and converter to BBCode, not fun)
- better image handling
- better code handling
- slimmer post

Posted: **Mon May 15, 2023 1:23 pm**

Notifications are off again... welcome back year 2010 😅

Posted: **Mon May 15, 2023 2:12 pm**

Any issues on the new version? refresh helped, but...

I've noticed some messages from monitoring system regarding this. But only today saw it myself.
Not sure that causes that debug output to be thrown in web and forum stop for a while yet. Will recheck phpbb plugins
for updates tomorrow. But if anyone notices what exact action causes forum to enter that mode please report back to us.

Posted: **Wed May 17, 2023 11:57 am**

Any issues on the new version? refresh helped, but...
I've noticed some messages from monitoring system regarding this. But only today saw it myself.
Not sure that causes that debug output to be thrown in web and forum stop for a while yet. Will recheck phpbb plugins
for updates tomorrow. But if anyone notices what exact action causes forum to enter that mode please report back to us.

Delete post permanently on other topic than this, do not longer work, now is a blank page,
thanks.
I can't delete my empty post here:
viewtopic.php?t=196230
(At the time of writing, there are no other posts after mine)

Posted: **Wed May 17, 2023 11:59 am**

I've seen a similar problem earlier this week (got a 404 page instead of confirmation the post was deleted) but just tried it again.
It does work from what I can see.

I posted something, deleted that post and now I post again.

Posted: **Wed May 17, 2023 12:00 pm**

On THIS topic, where user can't be allowed to delete permanently the post, is working

Posted: **Wed May 17, 2023 12:03 pm**

Yes, you are correct.
Just tried it on another thread, when you want to remove the post, a nice error shows.
(it was a 404 before, I seem to remember, this time it's different)

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Posted: **Wed May 17, 2023 12:41 pm**

Thanks for report. Reproduced the problem with topic deletion in our test env. Will look into solving it.

Posted: **Wed May 17, 2023 1:49 pm**

Checking for new nonapproved posts

Posted: **Wed May 17, 2023 2:14 pm**

I really like Discord as extra, great to meet people and do some fast interaction ...

Posted: **Wed May 17, 2023 3:56 pm**

@BartoszP Thanks. Also replicable in test env.

Posted: **Wed May 17, 2023 5:23 pm**

Prosilver 2 skin is lost in action .... snivel, snivel!, sniffle, sniffle!

Posted: **Wed May 17, 2023 5:37 pm**

Yes, that is a bit sad. But it only happened today, not during the forum maintenance.

Posted: **Wed May 17, 2023 6:50 pm**

Allan Style - SUBSILVER is gone too, and it was the only one that would display dates of quotes (at least I think that is why I used it). It also had a link via the tiny uparrow to the post that the quote was from. (I see prosilver has this, but not the date, or the post # of quotes). Allan Style - SUBSILVER had an "old" look, but high functionality, (i.e. it went well with the WinBox method).

Why were these removed? I see that prosilver is there (with lowercase). I am using it now.

My board style.png

Posted: **Wed May 17, 2023 8:30 pm**

Bring the Boys Back Home

Posted: **Thu May 18, 2023 3:29 pm**

This happen randomly until to this date after the maintenance, don't have reliable way to trigger this but this happen

2.png

Posted: **Thu May 18, 2023 4:03 pm**

yep, noticed it. Admins are working on it. There is a possibility the custom skin is causing issues.

Posted: **Thu May 18, 2023 5:14 pm**

Same problem is for prosilver and for Mikrotik skin so it seems that problem is not skin specific.

The first four lines show that the session data is bad and SQL query returns data in format not expected by forum engine.

Posted: **Fri May 19, 2023 12:48 pm**

It only happens if I click on the "Home" link.

Screenshot 2023-05-19 alle 11.46.27.png

Posted: **Fri May 19, 2023 12:48 pm**

Confirmed !

So don't be ET and don't phone ... Home :-)

Posted: **Fri May 19, 2023 12:50 pm**

Confirmed !

So don't be ET and don't phone ... Home :-)

You are right 🤣

Posted: **Sat May 20, 2023 9:26 am**

still occuring viewtopic.php?p=1002568#p1002568

Posted: **Sat May 20, 2023 5:28 pm**

Come on! Not so impatient! It could take 2 years to fix that, BFD is still not working after 2 years.

Posted: **Mon May 22, 2023 4:48 pm**

New Design since today or error ?

Bildschirmfoto 2023-05-22 um 15.46.22.png

Posted: **Mon May 22, 2023 4:56 pm**

New Design since today or error ?

Just read the appropriate topic:
viewtopic.php?t=196385

Posted: **Mon May 22, 2023 5:00 pm**

thx ;-)

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2023 9:40 am**

WTF!!!
Loging inn to day and proSilver is gone. Its not only gone, but the setting to change style are gone as well.

In prosilver I can see if someone has posted in a thread where I have also written in by the small star symbol on the icon for the thread.

prosilver.png

.
In current style that is gone. So that needs to be fixed!!!!!

other.png

.
ProSilver are the style that is delivered with phpBB as default and do supports all needed function, so it should be there are an option at least.

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2023 9:53 am**

Complain in the proper topic viewtopic.php?p=1003542#p1003650

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2023 10:09 am**

I may be some old/blind, but cant find where to change it. It should normally be under:
User Control Panel -> Board Preferences -> Edit Global Settings -> My Board Style.....
Can not find it in any other settings.

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2023 10:10 am**

Seems that wind of change blew it out

Posted: **Mon May 29, 2023 4:17 am**

i've noticed that some of my devices are not able to log in to this forum.

Is that due the FORUM MAINTENANCE?

Posted: **Mon May 29, 2023 4:31 am**

i've noticed that some of my devices are not able to log in to this forum.

Is that due the FORUM MAINTENANCE?

Go here and delete invalid old login:
ucp.php?i=ucp_profile&mode=autologin_keys

Posted: **Mon May 29, 2023 4:43 am**

rextended
i got question asking which are actual mikrotik

Posted: **Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:50 am**

Searching with some words I get this error:
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_content.php on line 1604: Undefined variable $profile_url

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Posted: **Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:26 pm**

Could you share these words or just serach link?

Posted: **Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:43 pm**

Can you not read?
It's "netinstall" that upsets it. Adding a letter or removing a letter makes it OK.

Posted: **Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:53 pm**

Can you not read?

There is a chance that it's posible that primary school was not good enough to teach me properly.

back to problem ... not "some words" but just "netinstall" makes problem so you traced the source... thank you ... the question to Admins is "why?"

Posted: **Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:05 am**

Most likely the result page for that search query includes a user that has some error in their profile entry?

MikroTik

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