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The post was removed after approval opening again because didn't get a Convincing answer

Tue Aug 06, 2024 12:31 pm

I recently posted about my open-source project! Like any other hundred of topics that were sent before to this forum!
And my post was removed! because of "promoting of your product"
I was about to explain my project and ask why I got different treatment.
The moderator locked the topic! Please don't Lock the topic that fast!

Here are two examples, one is open source (like mine) and the other one is only commercial and paid!!!!!! both sharing or promoting their product!
viewtopic.php?t=186796 ( Admiral completely commercial )
viewtopic.php?t=206470

and of course, there is more than that, and if you ask I can share more topics with the same subjects or content that is not removed and even got support.
scripts, python software, and paid solutions.
I saw a lot of requests in the forum for software for the management of MikroTik routers! and now when I share an open-source and free project it gets removed !!!!!
Please tell me what is the difference.
 
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Re: The post was removed after approval opening again because didn't get a Convincing answer

Tue Aug 06, 2024 1:37 pm

The usual considerations apply everywhere...
Uhm...
1) Try us for FREE! Your first license is free.
2) Each managed MikroTik unit is $.50 per month.
3) Each managed MikroTik unit is $2.00 per month.

Better to wait free solution from MikroTik than to risk that happen something similar of other dozen of products, like LogMeIn:
at the beginning it is free, or near-free, but when there is a large user base, with a minimum notice of 30 days,
it goes to $900 a month, so someone who has put it everywhere, is being cornered and forced to pay...
I predicted EXACTLY what would happen:
end of free licenses, then paid,
and they even raised the prices from 0.5 to 2.0....

Always the same old fluff.
Why pay someone who just started, instead of paying someone who has been doing it for years and has improved the experience???
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Re: The post was removed after approval opening again because didn't get a Convincing answer

Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:11 pm

This is not what I asked in this topic but
Our free tire is open-source! there is a big difference! That is why our solution is made open-source :) that is correct we have paid service, but it won't stop anyone from using it for free.
Why have one provider and not have competition?
Also, there is a lot of difference between what we are thinking about the feature of the product and what others have!
About your last question!
With that thinking, MikroTik itself started in 1997, and other companies were there before! Now I will ask, why you are using MikroTik?
The usual considerations apply everywhere...
Uhm...
1) Try us for FREE! Your first license is free.
2) Each managed MikroTik unit is $.50 per month.
3) Each managed MikroTik unit is $2.00 per month.

Better to wait free solution from MikroTik than to risk that happen something similar of other dozen of products, like LogMeIn:
at the beginning it is free, or near-free, but when there is a large user base, with a minimum notice of 30 days,
it goes to $900 a month, so someone who has put it everywhere, is being cornered and forced to pay...
I predicted EXACTLY what would happen:
end of free licenses, then paid,
and they even raised the prices from 0.5 to 2.0....

Always the same old fluff.
Why pay someone who just started, instead of paying someone who has been doing it for years and has improved the experience???
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:12 pm

What you have to do with engitech?

Both "you" and Engitech... the sites are fake like the 3 dollar bill, there is no company reference, addresses, nothing concrete, no one knows who is responsible.
The usual sites made by AI to look convincing, but they don't say nothing.
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:19 pm

With that thinking, MikroTik itself started in 1997, and other companies were there before! Now I will ask, why you are using MikroTik?
Do you think you can put me in difficulty with these questions?

I stopped buying new MikroTik hardware for wifi CPEs, now there is definitely better.
I continue to use only Routers, Switches and home APs.

At the time it was the most innovative, RouterOS has never had comparisons, not even the price.

Do you try to compare yourself with the MikroTik of the beginning?
So your software would be the "new MikroTik" of the RouterBOARD managers???

Ahahahahah...

You are just another attempt to spoon-feed people something for free, feeding you feedback,
to create something commercial to make you money.
Nothing more, nothing less.
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:19 pm

@normis
Please provide the MikroTik Corporate answer to a legitimate question asked by @MikrowizardOfficial
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:20 pm

Please tell me what is the difference.
You just saw the "difference", and it was just a taste.
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:22 pm

I know we have previously asked to avoid spam on the forum, but how about we make a sticky topic with possibility to advertise their product, if it is made specifically for mikrotik devices in some way. The only question is how to avoid "bumping" the topic with repeated ads.
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:23 pm

What you have to do with engitech?

Both "you" and Engitech... the sites are fake like the 3 dollar bill, there is no company reference, addresses, nothing concrete, no one knows who is responsible.
The usual sites made by AI to look convincing, but they don't say nothing.
I don't know about others and who is Engitech? we use the template in WP named Engitech, where is the relation that you are talking with us?
Dude, who writes this amount of huge code and publishes it in Git Hub? Do you know how much time it takes to create software like this and how much Experience is needed to create software?
It is really simple for anyone who has knowledge and experience in programming to take a look at the GitHub page and find out there is a huge amount of effort behind this project!
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:24 pm

P.S: rextended please calm down
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:24 pm

(I had already finished)

I strongly advise to not to pollute this forum with advertisements,
otherwise the meee-too will start and everyone will want their advertising here...
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:27 pm

I don't know about others and who is Engitech? we use the template in WP named Engitech, where is the relation that you are talking with us?
I'll answer you simply:

Your site is full of links that point to that consulting firm... Which seems to actually exist... on dream :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:32 pm

MikroWizard seems like a very interesting software. I'll allow it. I will also make a Forum section with such tools, everyone is free to completely avoid it
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:35 pm

With that thinking, MikroTik itself started in 1997, and other companies were there before! Now I will ask, why you are using MikroTik?
Do you think you can put me in difficulty with these questions?

I stopped buying new MikroTik hardware for wifi CPEs, now there is definitely better.
I continue to use only Routers, Switches, and home APs.

At the time it was the most innovative, RouterOS has never had comparisons, not even the price.

Do you try to compare yourself with the MikroTik of the beginning?
So your software would be the "new MikroTik" of the RouterBOARD managers???

Ahahahahah...

You are just another attempt to spoon-feed people something for free, feeding you feedback,
to create something commercial to make you money.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Actually, we created this software because we think that MikroTik is making a huge difference in this industry the user base is growing at a huge speed, and there is a need for software like what we made! I know this because created this software based of the our needs :)
We are watching the market and the MikroTik team is doing great with all of the products they created! you can walk around and look at the top of a building when you are walking :)
Of course, we want to make money from our project but we also offer a free open-source version with a lot of features to show that we are serious and also the community will benefit from that!
It is a well-known business plan and marketing! A lot of open-source projects are like that!
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:36 pm

MikroWizard, please make a clear post in here with decription of what your software does and how much it costs, and what limits there are in the Free tier. I will also move the other mentioned topics into this section:

viewforum.php?f=25
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:39 pm

MikroWizard, please make a clear post in here with decription of what your software does and how much it costs, and what limits there are in the Free tier. I will also move the other mentioned topics into this section:

viewforum.php?f=25
Please move also flashstart...
viewtopic.php?t=188805
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Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:42 pm

Done.

No need to get agressive, we can always work out something. There are definitely people who will gladly pay for such software, and there is no better place than the MikroTik forum to find them. We just need to separate advertisements from discussions. I hope this solves it.
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:42 pm

MikroWizard seems like a very interesting software. I'll allow it. I will also make a Forum section with such tools, everyone is free to completely avoid it
That is awesome! Thank you for your support. it is really valuable for our team. In the first place we are here to gain community support and feedback, it is more valuable than money for us!
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:43 pm

(my criticisms are useful, you will see now that he improves the site....)

And Splunk? Must be moved?
viewtopic.php?t=179960
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:45 pm

I think Splunk is some unrelated software, and Jotne is just posting a tutorial for how to make MikroTik work with it. So I don't think it qualifies
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:46 pm

I think Splunk is some unrelated software, and Jotne is just posting a tutorial for how to make MikroTik work with it. So I don't think it qualifies
Ok, I've never used it, so I was wondering ;)
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:49 pm

Sorry for the question, I never see this:

"Forum rules
Only MikroTik related software...."

Is a new feature of phpBB or already exist on old versions?

Thanks.
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:50 pm

I just discovered it. Every section can have such rules banner
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:50 pm

I just discovered it. Every section can have such rules banner
Thanks.
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2024 3:39 pm

I haven't seen the original post, but I have had a quick look at the site.

The contents are the usual technobabble/mumbo-jumbo as most (usually crappy) commercial softrware (or SAAS) sites around, I am not surprised that it was taken for some kind if spam/advertisement/self-promotion.

If I may, there are several issues with the site, as I see it, some very understandable as it is a new thing, some not so much.

There are some bold statements, like:
We are professional software engineers with more than 10 years of experience in managing routers
but no company info, no technical references, nothing.

The github repository is a bunch of files, with not even 10 lines explaining what is it.

Your privacy policy - as is - is not valid/compliant with GDPR, you MUST identify yourself (your company) and provide means to reach you (besides the site name or domain).

You need a proof reader, the word "registration" is spelt "Registeration" in a couple of places, there is "Default Login Conditionals :" and "Default Login Creditionals :"(I believe you mean Credentials)
Typos are usually seen as a sign of sloppiness, which is the exact opposite of what is expected from this kind of software/service.

The non-docker pre-requisites seem (to me) a nightmare:
  • install nginx
  • install redis
  • install PostgreSQL
  • install MikroFront
  • install MikroMan
Besides Python.

While the list of supported operating systems is a tad bit "limited":
  • Ubuntu 20.04+


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I believe the engitech reference is to a Wordpress template, coincidentally called "engitech":
https://themeforest.net/item/engitech-i ... e/25892002
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2024 4:12 pm

I haven't seen the original post, but I have had a quick look at the site.

The contents are the usual technobabble/mumbo-jumbo as most (usually crappy) commercial softrware (or SAAS) sites around, I am not surprised that it was taken for some kind if spam/advertisement/self-promotion.

If I may, there are several issues with the site, as I see it, some very understandable as it is a new thing, some not so much.

There are some bold statements, like:
We are professional software engineers with more than 10 years of experience in managing routers
but no company info, no technical references, nothing.

The github repository is a bunch of files, with not even 10 lines explaining what is it.

Your privacy policy - as is - is not valid/compliant with GDPR, you MUST identify yourself (your company) and provide means to reach you (besides the site name or domain).

You need a proof reader, the word "registration" is spelt "Registeration" in a couple of places, there is "Default Login Conditionals :" and "Default Login Creditionals :"(I believe you mean Credentials)
Typos are usually seen as a sign of sloppiness, which is the exact opposite of what is expected from this kind of software/service.

The non-docker pre-requisites seem (to me) a nightmare:
  • install nginx
  • install redis
  • install PostgreSQL
  • install MikroFront
  • install MikroMan
Besides Python.

While the list of supported operating systems is a tad bit "limited":
  • Ubuntu 20.04+


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I believe the engitech reference is to a Wordpress template, coincidentally called "engitech":
https://themeforest.net/item/engitech-i ... e/25892002
Thanks for your feedback I will check it all and try to provide better content and fix all you mentioned, we are really at the beginning and it is only a few days since we launched!
Give us a few days and it will be better :)

for the operating systems, Ubuntu is just a starter. it will be more!
for the installation script or installation process we are working on it!

Also please note that we didn't release the first version and it is in the beta stage. I am here to just get feedback and find friends or volunteers for testing!
I will ask if anyone with feedback please continue at viewtopic.php?t=209925 as we started our topic
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2024 6:24 pm

I would simply like it if MT was as innovative as some of these developers......... like
viewtopic.php?p=1088036&hilit=amnezia#p1088036 :-)
But of course only after removing all the bugs incurred by BTH.

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