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Chateau LTE18 ax what Antenna Ports?
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:48 am
by 360Degree
Hi
Are that Ports use for Wifi or LTE?
And what does the 2 Square Black thinks next to the Antenna Ports?
Thanks
Re: Chateau LTE18 ax what Antenna Ports?
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:05 am
by 360Degree
No idea?
Re: Chateau LTE18 ax what Antenna Ports?
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:21 am
by jaclaz
Reading the manual would help:
https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/spaces/U ... u+LTE18+ax
the
hint is here.
Antenna usage
SMA connectors are for LTE antennas.
External antenna sockets are located on the back of the device. Device comes with connected wireless antennas, LTE antennas are not provided within the package.
I would say they are for LTE antennas
Re: Chateau LTE18 ax what Antenna Ports?
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 1:49 pm
by Stopwatch9
Looking at this open router, it looks like the two ports are connected to some PCB traces that connect to a horizontally and a vertically oriented antenna inside the enclosure.
**update** I deleted the photo to avoid confusion for future readers. See posts below.
I am wondering if it makes any difference if I connect an external antenna to ANT2 or ANT3. My guess is that it doesn't matter. But in theory an external antenna on a long cable could introduce multipath noise, as signal from the external antenna will arrive at a different time than the built-in antenna.
Re: Chateau LTE18 ax what Antenna Ports?
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 3:31 pm
by jaclaz
I am not understanding.
The photo you posted is of
another device, RBD53G-5HacD2HnD is the Chateau
LTE12, the LTE18 AX should be S53UG+5HaxD2HaxD.
The image, coming from this site:
https://mikrotikon.pl/mikrotik-chateau- ... uteros-v7/
is even called MikroTik-Caterau-
12.jpg
Re: Chateau LTE18 ax what Antenna Ports?
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 3:48 pm
by Stopwatch9
guilty as charged. I assumed the wiring was the same
Re: Chateau LTE18 ax what Antenna Ports?
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 4:22 pm
by jaclaz
No, they are different.
JFYI, on this forum:
https://confusedbird.com/thread-280.html
there is a link to a google drive with some photos of the internals of the LTE18:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... drive_link
Re: Chateau LTE18 ax what Antenna Ports?
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:28 pm
by Stopwatch9
When connecting an external LTE antenna to Chateau LTE18 ax, does it make a difference if I connect it to ANT2 or ANT3? Don't know the meaning of "primary/diversity" as they talk about on confusedbird.com
High gain on ANT2/primary sounds like more-better
Re: Chateau LTE18 ax what Antenna Ports?
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 1:12 pm
by mkx
With MIMO radio systems (WiFi from N onwards, mobile broadband from 4G/LTE onwards) the distinction between "main" antenna and "aux"/"diversity" antenna doesn't exist any more. All antennas are equally important. Some chipsets/drivers simply hate it when signal levels, received from different antennas, are too much different. If only one antenna is improved, MIMO doesn't work and net effect is not very positive if positive at all ... some chipsets/drivers become unstable and connection becomes intermittent.
So when "improving" antennas it's important to do it properly for all Tx and Rx paths.
Re: Chateau LTE18 ax what Antenna Ports?
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 1:34 pm
by Stopwatch9
So it would be a bad thing to plop an antenna like this on my roof, attach it to ANT2 and call it a day?
https://www.pctel.com/antenna-product/w ... ering-sma/
Because the receiver hardware expects a certain signal from the built-in antennas?
Re: Chateau LTE18 ax what Antenna Ports?
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:02 pm
by jaclaz
Re: Chateau LTE18 ax what Antenna Ports?
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:50 pm
by mkx
Or use a pair of "plain" antennas, strategically mounted. A very good mounting strategy is to have antennas pointing in the same direction (towards cell tower), but tilted at +-45° to match telco antennas' internal structure. Something like this:
(
https://www.iskra.eu/en/MIMO/antenna_se ... icom_mimo/)
Also beware that antenna cables have certain signal loss, can be as high as 1dB/m ... so avoid using cables longer than strictly required.